₦airaland Forum

lawani:
The orisas are not God, there is only one God according to all Nigerian cultures. Olodumare, Chukwuabiama, Osanobua are some of the names. That you bow down to an orisa or to your parents do not make them god or God. Osun is an orisa and not God. Then orisas have incarnated several times, this accounts for Osun marrying Sango, Osoosi and etc. Those must be different incarnations. Ogun have incarnated severally as the Onire, Alara, Ajero, Gbenagbena, Ogun Badagry and etc. It was the Alara that was fond of dog meat, the Ajero liked palm wine and etc. Even Ewuare of Benin was seen as an Ogun incarnate. That is the explanation about Osun having many husbands.

Stop saying what you don't know. Yoruba don't have only one God. . Stop being shamed of polytheism because others want you to.

many Irunmoles(spirit forces) are expressed into Orisa using actual historical events .
This expressions are the Orisa that we relate with as Gods
Olodumare being the senior Irunmole and 401st has no humanised expression like many other Irunmoles but Olodumare is not the only God. .the supreme? Sure but I disagree with the term "only"?

clefstone:
northerners and westerners consider Urhobos as Igbos, does that make them igbos?

Really
The same urhobo that was in the old western region

truthman2012:
Read the OP thoroughly, you will see that what idol worshipers in Mecca were doing to their idols is what muslims too are doing to their allahh.

Since both of them are doing the same thing, why was Muhammad warring against the idol worshipers?

I think what happened was that Muhammad wanted other idol worshipers to abandone their idols and embrace only one, allahh that belongs to his fathers.

Oga, what do u mean by idol worship?

I don't believe this story

Laid2001:
Dear biafrans I support ur struggle 100% but my problem is ur approach. I would want to suggest the following procedures and i can assure u its going to work out successfully. if u can unite and follow the following steps then i can tell, welcome to the Republic of Biafra in advance.
STEP 1
withdraw all ur services from Nigeria and render the Nigerians as u are the backbone of the country
STEP 2
Withdraw your kinsmen who are public office holders e.g Ike Ekweremadu, deputy senate president, Peter Obi the D.G of S.E.C
STEP 3
Reject all the ministerial nomination from the so called Nigeria.
STEP 4
Endeavour to reject Federal Allocation. u re very industrious people u will be better off without it
STEP 5
Stop all form of importation through the Nigerian sea port so that Nigeria will crumble without ur Tax
STEP 6
Recall all your sons and daughters from all parts of Nigeria to relocate to home untill this fight is over then Nigeria can beg them to come back as expatriate
STEP 7
Lock up all ur shops in idumota, Alaba international, Kano main market, and every other market even in the remote villages accross the country.
STEP 8
Go beyond closing of the Niger bridge stop all Nigerians from buying or selling in Onitsha Main market or Ariaria market in Aba.
STEP 9
Make sure u make ur Visa very hard for Nigerians.
STEP 10
This fight can be achieved without Violence just like south Sudan. Finally, make sure u dont fight it with weapons.
Igbo kwenu!!! hee!

Are u sure igbos are ready for this? This is hard work and risky deal you suggesting here

Well I don't see why pro-Biafra agitators should use his photos. Is this a ploy to get Urhobo support?


But did Ibori just say Nigeria has been in peace for the last 45 years? He doesn't know of Boko haram, fulani herdsmen

dre11:
A heartless and wicked woman who brutalized and used razor to cut her young maid has been charged to court.





http://pulse.ng/gist/heartless-woman-brutalizes-15-yr-old-maid-slashes-her-with-razor-blade-id4339327.html

Picture of the maid on hospital bed and picture of the blood stain cloth she wore.

But what is wrong with some women? It's no news anymore that women are wicked to thier maids. .

bigfrancis21:
Some Yorubas have recently sang songs named 'love wan tin tin'.

Love Wantintin by Oyinkansola ft Brymo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUIcjDXLixg

'Love Nwantintin' by Lara George:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCThGJVGzCQ

I see. A pity these aren't popular songs

lawani:
Please read the post again. The story of Lamurudu as father of Oduduwa is taught in schools and was passed down with the Mecca story. I am not an Awo but I know the Awo are custodians of Ifa and hence history. Each lineage also are custodians of their own history. It was Oduduwa himself that dropped the name Nimrod and it is for the benefit of arrogant folks who may believe their forebears were fools. I said I believe Oduduwa was expelled by and would have known Mohammed himself. His arrival is 51 Kings ago in Ife and at an average of around 30 years per King, a 7th century arrival date fits. The 5th Awujale was reigning when Oduduwa arrived, so the Awujale obviously arrived before Islam if my assumption that Mohammedans drove out Oduduwa is right. Mohammedans wiped out the old Arab dynasties that would have been descended from Nimrod with the excuse that they were polytheists that will be why there are no Arab monarchs claiming descent from Nimrod. I believe I have fully addressed your points.

Ok. Ti e ba gba temi mo gba tiyin

9jacrip:
I think you meant Oreluere/Ereluere not Ore Or'elu.

It is chanted in Ife dialect, I'm sorry you couldn't read it properly.

On the side, why aren't you on the Yoruba commonwealth thread.

You and Folykaze; I wonder why?

The thread had already gone a long way. . but I'll visit and try to give inputs

bigfrancis21:
I never said 'tini tini' is not Yoruba. Quote me where I said it. However, I only said that, love nwa nti nti which Yorubas pronounce as love wan tin tin is an originally Igbo phrase.

Yoruba pronounce? I'm still confused as to why you believe yorubas concern themselves with that song

9jacrip:
What dialect is that from?

I know of Igun or Igunugun.

Awa omo Ekiti Keke nu

bokohalal:
UGU is the Edo word for VULTURE. EAGLE is called OGHOHON.

Interestingly Ugun is Vulture in yoruba

bigfrancis21:
He seems very well knowledgeable in his own history so it is only common sense that he is invited to speak on a matter that he knows too well.

In the same way I can scoff at you at being an authority over the royal house of Ife when your village is not the least closest to Ife.

knowledgeable? An Esan man calls Oranmiyan and Eweka a myth when no Bini man will ever say such and this loser is calling such a person knowledgeable ...

[quote author=bigfrancis21 post=39815274][/quote] is an Esan man an authority over the royal house of Bini?

lawani:
What you are saying is a sacriledge. You can't dismiss your own ancestors as fools or as crooks. Nimrod was well known as far as Europe. Please read up about him. In the middle East, he was the most iconic character, the old Abraham. Surely a pre Islamic Meccan Monarch may refer to him as an ancestor. The Oduduwa dropped the name as a signature. The way you yourself might say you are a son of Oduduwa to some Europeans. Not a direct father but an ancestor. He obviously mentioned the name because he foresaw that there will be an identity crisis in the future just as we have today. You see, I believe the first Alaafin to be a practising Muslim is the present one. No self respecting people adopts a foreign religion. Doing so is a sign of defeat on all fronts. Islam was known to the Yoruba as far back as the 9th century but it was held at arms length as a matter of national pride. There were always Muslims but a tiny minority and anyone looking to rise in the society would have had to drop the tag as did Alaafin Sango in the 15th century. Islam was never that important to influence narratives. The Yoruba were mainly Yoruba in everything up until the 20th century. Who were the people being influenced by Muslims? Afonja? Aole? Oyabi? Gaha? Ogunmola? All those people lived recently and the idea that they were compromised by Islam can not fly. Do you know that the Ogun character was the one that introduced circumcision that was common in Kemitic Egypt and popularised by the Jews? Ogun Onire was the one that started it. It is only here that you have an account of the origin of circumcision. The Egyptians built the pyramids and we do not know how. The ancestors of the Yoruba were living in cities and under complex organisation before Kemitic Egypt and it appears they spoke thesame language. So what those ancient empires were or what they achieved is something we may never know but to evaluate them according to what now represents them will be inadequate. For example in ten thousand years, the site of today's Lagos may feature a tiny fishing village carrying on some Lagos tradition. It will be wrong to think that village represents what Lagos was in the past. Epidemics can wipe off a civilization to remain a remnant of it and etc. Things are not always the way they appear. I believe Oduduwa was displaced from Mecca by Mohammed himself and that the Awujale arrived before Islam ie before Wadai became a caliphate. The idea that the Awo, a highly conservative institution relied on the Bible and the Quran to formulate stories is highly untenable. If you have any more positions please add them.

So all I posted there fell on deaf ears or is it blind eyes yes?
At least you should have tried to counter my efforts with something I can hold on to. .


Are there any records of an Arabian king claiming ancestry to Nimrod?
Also I think I've made it clear that no single man named "Nimrod" is proved to have ever existed.


Awujale and Oduduwa couldn't have been around when islam was established by Mohammed around the 7th century
No Awo will ever say Lamurudu is the father of Oduduwa.

IYANGBALI:
spirts na devil pikin now

The holy spirit must be the devil himself then

IYANGBALI:
call me when you get sense finish

Learn to take correction

janellemonae:
My dear "oba" is a yoruba word for king. It has bn used since time immemorial and has its origins in ife. Yorubas use oba mostly as a verb and sometimes as a noun. We have individual titles for our obas because we have a strong oriki culture. The obas titles have their orikis. DO NOT REWRITE YORUBA HISTORY!!!! Google is a friend. And pls i do not care who d heck told u ur pack of lies because they are offended by d yorubas version of bini history. We have our receipts - we have ancient orikis, proverbs, dt have bn passed down from generations, and passed down in other yoruba enclaves not in nigeria as well.

Im sure ur nigerman are those binis dt believe yorubas and binis have no link. I will agree wt him abt dt if dts his story, but he shldnt start making up other stories in his head. Why d f**k would all d yoruba towns from north to south to east to west start copying a bini term. Copying oba of lagos? lmao!!! Hope u know d lagos island where d binis had a war camp was very tiny. It was nothing compared to d egba & ijebu territories on d lagos mainland. Ode.

Even the NigerMan he has been calling and probably sending PMs isn't Bini but Esan. .

Bigotry has fried the guy's brain

IlekeHD:
Noise. Show us historical evidence besides someone's blog post.

I can make a website and distort history too and you'd eat it up.

any mumu like bigfrancis21 will eat anything up as long as it's on the Internet

Goodboiy:
Lolz.. BRo re you sure ?.. I did research b4 posting that @bolded.. pls do. confirm it. so I can modify it.. asap

I've not confirmed yet o. .

IlekeHD:
Yoruba

Month - Osu

Monthly- Ososu

Ahh! Makes sense but is this "Esusu" pronounced like "Osu"?

IYANGBALI:
a very big foooooooool is on the loose. What is esu in English? Oponu ode feeling funky

see iddiot calling his betters fools. Esu is Esu. . As simple as that.

There's nothing like satan in yoruba traditions

Radoillo:
I was also a little perplexed by the emboldened. I know the Igbo (especially the southern Igbo) have a savings system called Isusu, which they say they've had since the precolonial days.

But I've also seen claims that the Yoruba have a similar system which they call Esu or Esusu.

@OP: Do the Urhobo use 'ugo' for 'eagle' or is it just the Orogun that do?

I didn't know it was called Esusu, I know it as "Ajo"

okenwa:
So, people just visit the oba and sit on the floor and those chairs are empty.
Ha Ba, Africa

Those are the Emese his palace officials, that is the Oba there, so they show respect and distinguish his status

IYANGBALI:
For the past 7 days he has been dinning with the devil

You are a big iidiot, the devil doesn't exist in Yorubaland

Goodboiy:
don't Tribalise everything. wen it comes to Ethnicity nobody wants to loose his ground because of friendship. meanwhile I have added Ego to the list .. Urhobo may have borrowed That word from Igbo. just like if Yoruba say Tosin, Itsekiri will say Tosan.

"Tosan" also said by the Olukumi

Goodboiy:
Well stated. Whats the meaning of Olorugun in Yoruba ?.. I have seen a Yoruba boy bearing Oloruguya something like that..pls clarify.. as that word is used in Urhobo

Maybe you mean Olorogun which is the title for the leader of a military unit

bigfrancis21:
You are clearly ignorant of Edo-Yoruba history. Just because Yorubas popularly use 'oba' does not mean it is of Yoruba origin. 'oba' is a bini word and not a Yoruba word. I know this sounds surprising to you to learn this but the word originates from the binis, not Yorubas. True bini people know this. I'm going to invite NigerMan, a proud Eshan man, to school you on this.

I don't know what you mean by 'olu' being a Yoruba word. You have to give the meaning of that word you're referencing. 'olu' as a word exists in several african languages and means different things. In Igbo, 'olu' could mean 'neck', 'voice' or 'riverine people living close to the river/sea'.

Do not think you know it all. You have to keep an open mind to learning things that you don't know or correcting impressions that you thought were probably right before.

you are neither Yoruba nor Bini. Funny how the ignorant outsider wants to claim for Bini what they don't even claim for themselves

cheruv:
That means Sobo is an amalgam of Old Bini and medieval Igbo with the Bini been more in proportion.
Even though those words you claim are Yoruba, I believe they're Bini.
Moreover, Bini and Yoruba lingos based on my observation show an almost 75-85% correspondence.
Igbo is the only lingo of the YEAI family thats totally different from the others.

There are some similar words between Yoruba and other Southern Nigerians aren't present in Bini.
All the YEAI languages share equal portion of similarities, in my opinion

Goodboiy:
Hi peeps.. I haven't create any new thread recently due to some reasons best known To me, Although I still Remain your loyal boy "Goodboiyy" . Below are some Igbo and Yoruba word used in Urhobo language.

1. Biko : Biko is an Igbo word for "Please" And it means same in Urhobo, in Urhobo you usually hear word like "Oghene' biko keme' Igho" Meaning "God please Give me money".

2. Olori : Olori is a Yoruba Word for Head .. in Urhobo it means the same thing..

3. Orgor' : Orgor' is an Igbo word for 'Inlaw'. It means the same thing in Urhobo.. for example I might say "Oniovo Orgor we' nkor " meaning 'brother how is Your Inlaw ".

4. Omo' : Omo'r is a Yoruba word for Child, It has same meaning in Urhobo.. I can make statement like " e' Freemanan Omo'r meh' … meaning "Freemanan is my Son"

5. Obara' : Obara is an Igbo word for blood.. It means Same In Urhobo.. Why The Igbo woman will shout "Obara Jesus" and Urhobo Woman will say "Oba'rah' Re' Jesu"

6. Jesu' : Jesu' is an Yoruba word for Jesus . its still the same in Urhobo

7. Ew'a : Ew'a is another Yoruba word for Beans and its thesame with Urhobo. Ew'a is pronounced in Urhobo exactly thesame with That of Yoruba

8. OBA : OBA is a Yoruba word for king , We still use it in Urhobo.. If we Want to Call God.. we say Oba' risi' meaning " King Of The Word"

9. Akpere : Is a Yoruba word for basket, it means the same Thing in Urhobo

10. Ego : Its an Igbo word for Money.. in Urhobo we say Igho .. I believe the word belongs to Igboid.

11. ejime : Its an Igbo word for Twins, Its spelt and Pronounced The same in Urhobo

12. Osusu : Is a Yoruba Word for Monthly savings. Its the same in Urhobo

Pls don't derail the thread. THANKS

Osusu yoruba? This is Igbo


Ejima Ejime Ejire - Igbo Urhobo Yoruba

PabloAfricanus:
Not according to an uninformed bloke who probably tells his friends he speaks "African"
Who goes about equating the history and culture of the Fulanis to that of the Bantu pygmies...cos you know...they all black and stuff!
Lol!
Read up what that bloke up there is insinuating and tell me if you wont have a good laugh.
"We" gave the whites civilization!! First off...who is we?
And where is the evidence of the civilization "we" gave the whites in our lands?

. If African leaders even decide to merge up into one united state, Europe and America will let it. Cus they know such projects will end up in failure
But a military uprising taking over territories and expanding will be met with hostility by the Whites cus they fear power like that