₦airaland Forum

londoner:
Let me repeat In talking about Nollywood and not just individual films. You actually proved my point. How many of the actors or actresses you listed are not Yoruba? Igbo led Nollywood made careers of many and actually took most of Africa with it you can see Nigerians of many tribes and also Ghanaians that made it through Igbo led Hollywood and are household names because of it. It is actually those movies that Africans all over the continent identified with they took the actors as their own whether they were Igbo, Yoruba or Calabar.

I don't get why you are trying to deny that. It's fact. You did not see me mention any Igbo director or producer or anything about cast and crew.....Nollywood is an industry that's why. The careers of those that have gone through it is testament to that.

Just because it was not Yoruba led should not cause an issue in you. Also of the people you mentioned it is only Kunle I have really heard of.

Still on this?

I asked bigfrancis21 before to mention those works that have made igbo own Nollywood such that the contribution of non igbos becomes insignificant as you want the world to believe. ..

Nollywood is an industry that produces movies. . How do you talk about Nollywood without talking about individual movies? See where insincerity is taking you too? After I proved that movies with Igbo dominated cast and crew are of low quality compared to that of non igbos

Wtf! You still claiming those names above owe their careers to igbos? Wtf!! Are you really this dumb? So Femi Adebayo owes his appearances in yoruba movies like Jelili to Igbos? Pls mention the names of the Igbos who contributed to his career? It's one thing to claim and another to prove it

You disgusting fellows want to claim Ghanaians too . Ghanaians who contribute to Nollywood
Igbos created careers of majid Michel, Nadia Buhari, Jackie Appiah
These folks made their careers in their countries and I must say, Ghanaian movies are of better quality than the Igbo dominated movies in nigeria. .

Of course you cannot mention any movie from an igbo producer with a dominated igbo cast because there are non of worth. You keep screaming igbo led Nollywood due to Quantity and the general position of Nigeria in Africa.. . Of all the movies igbo producers make you cannot mention any one of quality, anyone in the standard of the ones made by Lancelot Imasuen or Charles Novia. When you say Igbos created careers pls with which movie? Tell us the Igbo movie that created the career of anyone. That's how it is in Hollywood, when we speak of Will Smith we remember his appearance in the TV show Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, we speak Shai LaBeouf we speak of his appearances in the Transformers. So if you cannot name such movies then you have nothing to say, cus Nollywood is owned by all Nigeria - Igbos, Edos, Yoruba, Efik-Ibibio are giving significant contributions. It's only foolish igbos like yourself that claim Igbos lead or own nollywood, especially when the best movies in Nollywood are attached to non igbo personalities

You watch a movie today you forget it's title tomorrow... is that what you say you give Nollywood to own it?

M4gunners:
What are we dragging here? Ok i got you he should not fear God.You have won bro.

The main purpose of his appointment is not to fear any god but to be a custodian to our culture and traditions. .. that's what we are dragging

j1mmy:
Yes and that divinity is keeping you in primitive dated and backward traditions that does not advance civilization...

What backward traditions? You fools just keep embarrassing yourselves with your stupidity
why not tell us how ur village is any better than Ile-Ife

Nothing speaks "advanced civilization" better than a divine kingship

Kay17:
Do you think Nigeria is a nation? What is the hype behind nationhood?

No, I don't think so
How come democracy hasn't solved this problem?

Kay17:
It will take a while to flush out these relics from the past. These miniature kings are accountable and responsible to really no one unlike a strong credible local government.

As long as these guys remain, our democracy is incomplete

So far where has the complete or going by ur assertions "almost complete" democracy taken African nations?
Y'all stop over hyping democracy

j1mmy:
ban these useless royal taxpayer-funded royal rubbish and replace them with elected mayors office

You are one to talk
Maybe where you come from, your people have no heritage to uphold

Obaship in Yorubaland is not like anywhere else. It is divine

M4gunners:
Congrat hope he fear and put God first.

He should put the Culture and traditions of Ife and Yorubaland First as he looks out for the welfare of his people

itsene:
David became King with his father and everyone else in the family alive!
Nothing new under the sun my friend.

Are you mad? Does Ife look like Jerusalem?

Truly boring stuff but I remember enjoying Voltron

MrImole:
Ikú bàbá yèyé, alá$e ìkejì òrì$à.


Káábìyési o!

this is the praise for Alaafin not Ooni

Oktoberfest:
U are human and limited to natural laws,u cant fully understand d supernatural on ur own,dats d simple truth take it or leave it,take a cup of chilled palm wine n enjoy ur life.

abeg no deceive yourself, nothing like supernatural exists
nothing can be above or beyond nature

londoner:
Yes he is a great producer and director but how many careers have been created and maintained by his films? The people he has featured in those films have come up through Igbo led Nollywood and made their name and fanbase there? This does not take away from Kunle at all but he did not build an industry or acting careers of an industry. It is Igbo led Nollywood that saw interest from CNN on Nigerian movies and Africans from all over buying vcd's and recognising actors and actresses of Nigerian extraction. Those movies may have been rudimentary and may not have cost millions of dollars but they captured Africa and even the Caribbean. That was the effort in of a number of filmmakers, marketers and distribution outfits who were from the SE. They also had the insight to include non-Igbos and non Nigerians to ac
Half of a yellow sun is based on the book which is written by an Igbo woman which meant basically a ready made story and characters.

. . I even thought you were a sensible Igbo fellow.
you Igbos are so shameless and disgraceful... how you lie so comfortably
not only that but u love to show ur utter ignorance everywhere...

Kunle afolayan, Femi Adebayo, Kehinde Bankole all started with Yoruba movies. Bimbo Manuel picked fame with appearance in Tango with me ( a movie I'll start calling 'Yoruba movie' since any movie with an igbo dominated cast and crew is called "Igbo movie" and everyone of you feel OK with it, I see no reason why can't call "Tango with me" a Yoruba movie) and the TV series "Tinsel" (a Yoruba series, since the cast and crew is dominated by Yorubas)

Deola Sagoe began her acting career with the movie, and she did a damn good job playing the iconic Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti

Igbos are losers in filmmaking, normal human beings know that In Filmmaking Quality comes before Quantity but to an Igbo man lacking in common sense, Quantity comes first

londoner:
No, well if people meant Igbo language movies that is what they would say. I'm talking about the Igbo led Nollywood and I think you are aware that is what I am talking about. Those movies that built careers and fanbases of Nollywood actors and actresses both in and outside Nigeria.

It is wrong to refer to a movie shot in english language with non igbo contributions, as "igbo movie"
I don't know what little intelligence ur people have but yorubas don't do that. . We cannot be calling October 1 a yoruba movie

If you still don't get this then you are lost

NoIgwegbe:
The music industry cannot be run by Yorubas, because Igbos also run that industry. When your Wizkid and Davido release a music, they first of all have to go and prostrate for an Alaba marketer. Then the Igbo marketer will determine how far his music goes. How much money he generates, to even have enough to produce the next album. Yes endorsements are great, but when you are starting, your musci career is in the hands of an Igbo marketer somewhere.
Ask Dbanj, is he not singing, but Igbo Don Jazzy is gone, who will market his music? He probabl does not have a good rapport with the marketer.
So it is not enough to release your music on trace, and sign a few endorsements. You need the marketers to get that music into every home, so without the Igbos, there is no music industry.
Ask Flavour, PSquare, Tu Face, Phyno, and these days, most Yorubas add one or two Igbo words to their music, to make the Igbos willling to make them rich, or their career ends before it even begins. Kapish.

This oponu is talking of Alaba marketers that pay the yoruba land owners homage every morning
Go ask ladipo people what happened to them when they messed up


Anyway I doubt big players like Davido, D'banj, Wiz kid, Olamide, seyi shay etc need Alaba boys

But igbo artists don't just add one or two yoruba words, they bath their songs with yoruba lines

NoIgwegbe:
Half of a Yellow Sun, which is an Igbo movie was made with 8 million dollars, which is 1.27billion naira.
Even all Kunle Afolayan's movies combined have not reached 1 billion naira.

Half of a yellow sun was directed by a yoruba man and produced by a British so don't give me this as igbo contribution

I can't say if Kunle Afolayan's movies haven't reached 1 billion but October 1 was 300 million and he has produced and directed at least three other great movies of such caliber

londoner:
Igbos don't discredit others in Nollywood in fact they are welcoming. It is actually Yoruba's that named their movies as Yoruba movies and not simply Nollywood.



It is true though that when Nollywood became well known across Africa and carried all along from Genny to Ini to Mercy and the GH actors it was Igbo dominated....we all know. Does it mean other tribes are discredited? Of course not, but let us not deny facts.

It is supposed Igbo dominated Nollywood that was actually inclusive in a way that Yoruba and Hausa films never were.

Nollywood allows talent to shine no matter whether you are Igbo or even Nigerian or not.

I don't think any other tribe has any issue except Yoruba's because some seem to feel that Nigeria starts and ends with their tribe.

What brain do you have? So a movie is produced in yoruba language what do you call it? Spanish movies? Yoruba movies far surpass Igbo movies btw, when I say "igbo movies" I mean igbo language

We are not as senseless as igbos who like to call a movie shot in english "Igbo movie" jst because it is dominated by Igbo cast
If we were we should be calling Tango with me, Phone swap, October 1 etc Yoruba movies even though no or little yoruba was spoken

Try to understand this maybe you can be lucky enough to get small sense

bigfrancis21:
Coming from the veteran actor himself.

Veteran actor, Pete Edochie, has debunked the claim that Igbos have hijacked Nigeria's film industry, saying they actually own Nollywood.

Nollywood legend, Pete Edochie, has reacted to a statement credited to award-winning producer, Wale Adenuga of 'Super Story' fame that Igbos have hijacked the film industry, saying "comments are free but facts are sacred".

[b]
In the concluding part of this interview with VANGUARD, the bearded actor, who is more famous for his role as Okonkwo in the TV adaptation of late Chinua Achebe's classic, 'Things Fall Apart', said Nollywood is actually owned by Igbos and so couldn't have been 'hijacked' as claimed.

"People are free to say whatever they like, but a fact is a fact. Who make up Nollywood? The Igbos. Who started Nollywood? The Igbos. What are the films you remember most in Nollywood; 'Living in Bondage', which was produced by an Igbo man; 'Rituals', 'Igodo', 'Ebuka', among others. They were all produced by Igbo filmmakers. I featured in about 90 percent of these films", Mr. Edochie pointed out.

While acknowledging that "Yorubas have always done productions in Yoruba", the veteran actor said "the circulation of their films is limited".

According to him, "If you travel out of the shores of this country today, people would want to talk to you about the Igbo culture. They would talk about the huge bearded man with a red cap and a walking stick" in apparent reference to himself.[/b]

In self-adulation, Mr. Edochie added that "There are those who spend all their time trying to run other people down. But like I said, a fact is a fact. Whatever you say about me today, such comments don't bother me. I am the only actor that BBC has flown into Nigeria to interview, and that was because of my infectious professionalism".

http://www.tori.ng/news/3083/who-owns-nollywood-see-what-pete-edochie-says.html

is this a joke? I asked you to name movies in the level of "tango with me" which cost about 100 million naira your daddy is calling "Rituals" that probably cost less than 1 million and no human being can remember watching

Radiocarbon dating has so far established that the buildings and walls were more than 1,000 years old. Dates such as 800 AD have been given as a good ball-park figure.

http://www.blackhistorystudies.com/shop/the-great-mighty-wall/article-about-eredo/

@ Radoillo

absoluteSuccess:
Thats the way to go, we can't assume that a lot has been written about the place already.

Some of us should be for traditinal claims no matter how far fetched, then empirical studies should follow.

What could make tradition favour the Queen of Sheba for instance, and what could make the tradition a hype?

I don't think foreigners are in best position to teach us about us, and the hope ends where we can't dug our history from heap of ruins.

What do you expect from a muslim dominated village?

What I don't get is why people claim it's the largest earthwork or call it a wall
Anyway I'm made to believe that the "Queen of Sheba" attachment is a new one. The name original to the moat is "Sungbo"

Queen of Sheba wasn't even childless, her son is the patriarch of the Habesha people. Yet they don't even know of their Great Mother's works deep in the West African forest?
It all reeks of foul play

Oktoberfest:
Dafuq is dis suppose 2mean?oba yoruba.smd

You live in Germany?

Igbos igbos igbos

When will you have sense? you expect sensible people to believe this poo?

londoner:
To be honest in entertainment Igbo and Yoruba are linked. You can not talk about the careers of korede and Reekado without mentioning a non Yoruba behind their sound in Don Jazzy. Even Kiss Daniel he is known for Woju and laye which are his breakout songs. The producer of both tracks is DJ Coublon who is Igbo. I'm glad there is collaboration in music and movies between tribes but it seems the net warriors are yet to catch up.

Can people for once rep Nigeria and not just their tribe?

What I can't take is igbos claiming Nollywood and trying to discredit the yoruba contributions, Edo contributions and others. This folks are so irritating

Ihuomadinihu:
Lol,reekado banks and korede that are under the wings of Don Jazzy a pro Igbo. Both artist will sing in Igbo if Don Jazzy wants them to. Before mentioning these people,i will talk about solid Nigerian musicians like Tuface and other musicians in his class.

even don jazzy doesn't dare disappoint. He knows igbos lack sense. . See his crew full of non igbos. His own brother calls himself "omoba" not "nwaeze"
Even hausa girl dija dey shit on una

Don Jazzy is known to add yoruba words than Igbo words into his music...

STILESGANG:
You own nollywood but music is 50/50?see Your mouth

don't mind the mumu. They want the world to believe they own Nollywood but share the music industry with other Nigerians
When we all know that Yoruba language spices their lyrics like no man's business... they can't just stop paying homage

Even phyno don go learn yoruba put for song Olamide stil giving him immunity but in the next 2 years watch how he starts rapping in yoruba or face career damage

Ihuomadinihu:
Why are you mentioning the ones that look Igbo na? Are they the only yoruba girls you know? Lmao. Every pretty yoruba lady = Omo igbo. At least una know that one.

Lol. Keep deceiving urself there

I've told you, people tend to take light complexion as a characteristic of the Igbo ethnic group.

If you take light complexion as beauty that's ur problem

bigfrancis21:
After all's said and done, you keep following the 'stupid' one around like a fly. At least I have a die hard fan of mine.

For your information you have not made any so-called corrections. In your close-minded bigoted mind, you have failed to see the truth for what it is. Because of Nollywood's exclusive success, you find people trying so hard to attach themselves to Nollywood as if their life depends on it. I don't see Igbos meddling in the affairs of the Yoruba movie industry. Instead you have it the other way round. I've said this before, if you think you truly have a stake in Nollywood and are interested in knowing the so-called impact of Yorubawood in Nollywood, please let both movie industries split and let Nollywood stand alone and let us see if Nollywood would not wax even stronger. After all, Kannywood (Hausa speaking) is a standalone movie industry of its own. I don't see Hausas trying to meddle in the affairs of Nollywood or try to attach themselves to it. Or maybe when Igbo producers decide to stop featuring non-Igbo actors and actresses, then it would dawn on you who the true owners of Nollywood are. Isn't it funny how Desmond Elliot had to hide his Yoruba name to take part in Nollywood. Same for Ramsey Nouah.

"Nollwyood is solidly in the hands of Igbo business men known as the Alaba cartel". The New York Times. The international recognition Igbos need. The world indeed recognizes the true owners of Nollywood.

It is only in Nigeria where the truth is hidden due to bigoted tribal minds and selfish reasons. The true Nollywood story needs to be written and documented in the annals of time. Today, Nollywood is celebrated as a truly black success story in the US. In no time, I will be publishing a book on the Igbo success story of Nollywood with in-depth interviews and first-hand information gleaned from the runners of Nollywood such as Kenneth Nnebue, a book to stand the test of time, to transcend generations upon generations and for future Igbo generations to have a glimpse of this day and time.

Such story needs to be sold to the international world. Being in the US, getting together the right resources for my book would never be an issue. Finally, I would be sending a copy of this book to the Library of Congress, Washington DC, one of the largest collections of books and research materials from all over the world. I stand for the truth and that's what matters to me. You can remain in oblivion and keep playing the local gimmicks you think you're good at.

Blah blah blah makes no Sense

NA simple questions I ask you bring all this epistle that doesn't address any of my questions

Here are the questions again
1. Mention the names of the Igbos running Nollywood
2. Mention any Igbo filmmaker in the league of Kunle Afolayan, Lancelot Imasuen, Charles Novia

I even helped you with Tchidi Chikere, although the guy is still beneath the people people mentioned above.


If Yorubawood stands alone so should Igbowood.
We all know that Igbowood is dead on arrival, even Igbo folks prefer English movies than Igbo movies
Unlike Hausas who love everything in their language and Yorubas like myself who only pay attention to quality movies in english..
When i say quality movies I talk Amazing Grace, Figurine, Tango with me, Phone swap, Alan Poza, October 1. I've not seen Iyore and Invasion 1897 but mere looking at the Trailers you know what's up


These are some of the best Nollywood movies ...and they are all By Non Igbo filmmakers
The cast also dominated by Yorubas with only 1 or 2 igbos
Another question for you. . Do you know any Movie by an igbo filmmaker and igbo dominated cast in the level of these movies mentioned above?

SO DUDE SHUT THE FVCK UP. .unless you wanna give an intelligent response to my questions

rexbuton:
could you shed more light on this? I'm lost

and is that a picture of the moat in your earlier post?

Well, imagine a fellow believes he has been living a pathetic life for some time, he picks up something and decides to make it more interesting by claiming unimaginable connections to his discovery just to gain publicity and raise his pride as a human being
That's what happens with people claiming Walls of Bini, Eredo are the largest man made structure, built by Yemeni queen etc

Yes it's the one in the picture

tonychristopher:
But do you even think that I have your time ?

My personal boy tonychristopher. When will you resume your attacks on Yoruba people
I heard Oyo aren't yoruba

Nmeri17:
we're not talking of strategies of warfare o! Technologies. what was the African equivalent of the European solitary advancement in the military sector?? nothing! or will you mention voodoo??

only six European powers overcoming the entire Africa and American colonies and their so called advancement. What type of advancement is that

Why not read and understand what Radoillo posted to you

Lemme try to help you more

Europe overwhelmed africa due to military technology. It takes only military technological superiority to defeat an enemy in battle

But when we talk civilization and in other sectors of technology, Europe was beneath Africa

The Vikings of Scandinavia were not so bright, they knew nothing other than war. .. with this knowledge of war alone they defeated so many even threatened the mighty Turks
a similar thing can be said about the Spartans, Macedonians who were far beneath the Athenians in everything except war

Ihuomadinihu:
Music run by Yoruba? Says who? You mean those Igbos born and bred in Yorubaland picking up one or two yoruba lines? Lost cause...

Yes you read right. MUSIC IS THE PERSONAL BACKYARD PROPERTY OF THE YORUBA IN NIGERIA

Igbos are not the only ones that know how to claim stuff you know

tonychristopher:
You want to be noticed ...now I have noticed you


Can u rest in peace ...pls

Sharap. Omo Igbo kii l'enu l'ode

A forest dweller has no say in the city

Ihuomadinihu:
Lmao! Facts and truth has already been stated. Kindly ask international media houses and major nollywood stakeholders about the origin of nollywood. Deep down you know the truth,so stop embarrassing yourselves.
As for the Igbo resemblance thing. Till date, Western Igbo(Anioma) history states that Igbo mercenaries were hired to fight in nearby Yoruba States and later settled there after the war. Probably,those that look like Omotola have Igbo or Niger Delta blood somewhere down the line...ijs.
Let's not even forget that the general and physical/facial description of all Nigerian ethnic groups was documented by colonial historians.

Mo so, awon oni iro alainitiju.

I knew one senseless igbo fellow will try to claim omotola has igbo ancestry
Oya next is Sheyi shay, Omowunmi Akinifesi