₦airaland Forum

9jacrip:
These people started with the Hausa who owned them for shooting practise and throat slashing skills.

Out of fear of what the Hausa can do but being afflicted with the compulsion to heat up wherever they go, they then turned to the Yoruba who have always played ostrich.

Oba Akiolu

Anti Igbo protest in Lagos and outside Naija.

Different Yoruba groups such as OPC becoming vocal against Ibo B.S.

Deji flogging the heaux-'indigo'.

Getting their stalls locked up in Lagos and Akure.

And now this.

Indeed, it is on.

Yoruba don wake up.

Yes yoruba have learnt how to deal with the Igbo noisemakers but the fulani herdsmen is what I'm waiting for

Well the so called wall is natural not man made, it's the moat between the earthen walls that was created at about 800AD, the charcoals plus iron tools used to burn the trees and clear the paths I think were studied. It was basically a "digging" not a "building" . It was ordered by a queen or noble woman merchant who had her giant slaves make a path for her to pass and also as a way to keep her legacy, having no child to do that....so they say

So let's assume she dug it to protect herself from bandits, and surely it was completed in her life time

But I doubt if this woman had anything to do with Queen of Sheba or that "Bilikisu" was her name.

I watched a video, that said some folks walked two months and couldn't complete the path

Radoillo:
Great.

Now, what the Enogie told you about Oba Ewuare's 'home EASTWARDS' may in fact contain some elements of truth in it, because I have encountered traditions from the people living east of Benin that affirm that Ewuare was a son of their daughter's. I had dismissed that tradition until you mentioned that stuff with the Enogie.

According to Agbor tradition, as recorded by Chief Iduwe in his manuscript "A History of Greater Agbor" (written in the 1970s):

"Ogun's mother was an Agbor woman betrothed to the Oba of Benin in those days of old. The woman bore a son to the Oba and received a name Ogun meaning medicine. It happened that Ogun disputed with his half brother about who was to be the heir to the Benin throne. As it were, Ogun had no helper in the dispute so his mother left the city with her son to Agbor her former town. The mother was a daughter of an Oki man of Ikpami cult in a family of the royal physician Nmuw Obonbon. [Note: Oki is one of the sections that make up Agbor.]

Her mother appealed to doctors and priests for help to her son to be the Oba of Benin. She handed Ogun to Oheren Ezuku (priest). Ogun served the priest very well as a good hunter and taught him the Ika arts and science as dibie. Hereafter, Ogun was called back to Benin to be Oba. He went and became the Oba with the title of Eware. He was grateful to his warden and offered him the Ada sword which is yet in the shrine of Ezuku Ogan as a token of gratitude to his warden."

Concerning the Ezuku Ogan and the priest who (according to Agbor traditions) mentored Ewuare for some years, let me quote another passage from Iduwe - to put things in perspective:

"The name Oghan alias Ogan signifies the den of elephants where Agbor hunters found such beasts in the wilderness close to Ohiomo river, thus the saying, "Okeme eyin, ola Oghan" meaning after work elephant retires to its den.

Tradition says hunters formed the cottage called Ogan. After some years a native doctor from Ozoigbon Ubulu-Uku by name Eze Uku came there on Mbian business, i.e., as a herbalist. After some years of toil he died without anybody to inherit his things or manage his medicine with sacrifices but at long last his medicine for lack of sacrifices pestilence began to harm the inhabitants of the village so they went and reported the cause and effect to Eze Agbor [i.e., the Obi/Dein of Agbor] who without delay contributed a sheep and money to the people for the appeasement. The medicine became a shrine called Ezuku or Eze-Uku-Ogan."

So, according to Agbor oral history, Ewuare was not only maternally descended from the Agbor people, he was also mentored by a priesthood that had Ika and Aniocha connections (The Ezuku Ogan). Taking these bits of information together with what the Enogie told you, it may begin to make sense which 'home eastwards' Ewuare was returning to --- his maternal home in Agbor where he had earlier sought refuge in his years of trouble, and where he probably felt at home.

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All this talk about Ewuare and his possible connections with the regions to the east of Benin make me want to revisit a little issue that has puzzled me for a long time now, but which I have never had an occasion to discuss with anyone. It's about the possible etymological roots of the word 'Igue', as in the famous Bini Festival.

Many traditions affirm that Ewuare instituted Igue (although I know of some traditions that say Igue is older than Ewuare). If indeed Ewuare instituted Igue, then the observation/speculation I'm about to make may be something to look into, bearing in mind Ewuare's probable eastern (Ika-Aniocha) connections.

The Igue Festival in Benin appears to have a Yoruba parallel celebrated in Oyo called the Orun Festival. The parallels are striking:

1. The Orun Festival centres around the veneration of Ori ('spiritual head'). Igue festival centres around the veneration of Ehi, the Bini counterpart of Ori.

2. The Bashorun (the Alafin's chief minister) plays a central role in the Orun Festival. The Iyase ( the Oba's chief minister) plays a central role in the Igue Festival. Around 1918, Eweka II told an European Commission that, "I cannot celebrate Igue Festival without my Iyase. When you took my Iyase away, you took Igue Festival with him."

3. The Orun Festival takes place in September. The Igue Festival now takes place in December, but historically, it was celebrated in September. Bini history has it that it was Oba Akenzua who moved it to the month of December.

If these two festivals are rooted in the same concept, as seems likely from the similarities, shouldn't one also expect the names of the festivals to show some etymological cognacy?

'Orun' means sky or heaven in Yoruba. But 'sky/heaven' doesn't seem to be 'Igue' in Bini. The interesting thing here is that 'Igwe' is sky/heaven in the Igbo-speaking areas. If indeed Ewuare was maternally from Agbor, and if indeed he instituted Igue (as some traditions maintain), is it possible he gave the new festival he created a name from the language of his maternal folks and his mentor at Ogan?

Ok, this is a good one.

But how are the Agbor people at making brass? I remember the Portuguese report states that the Oghane sent a brass crown to the new Oba of Benin

Radoillo:
Ofo is a ritual staff of office, normally held by Chief Priests, Kings, Lineage heads, titled men.... Virtually every position of spiritual or temporal authority had an Ofo staff attached to it.

Nri-Menri can be looked at in two ways. Menri is the name that has come to be attributed to the earliest ancestor of the Nri people. (This Menri was himself a son of Eri). The 'Nri' attached in front of 'Menri' is a title, like Eze, Ozo or Oba. Hence Nri Menri or Nri-Menri.

Nri-Menri is also the name given to the Cult of the Royal Ancestors of the Nri Kings. Thus the staff of office of the headship of this Cult is called the Ofo Nri-Menri.



The Beni are one of the subgroups that make up the Nupe nation. The city of Bida is located in Beni territory. The Beni had formed a confederacy with a paramount king who was a kind of first among equals, before the coming of Tsoede.

You know I asked you that question cus I thought I was on to something

1. "Ofo" in yoruba is word of power/authority ie. Blessing, curse, incantations. And I know "Ofo" (pronounced slightly differently) is related to authority
2. There are four core Nri towns. .. and "Merin" is 4 in yoruba..

Anyway now I think it's of no use

bokohalal:
Very plausible that Ewuare's mother was Ika as Ika was considered part of Benin Kingdom then. I am of the opinion that there was a supremacy battle Edo, Udo and Agbon (Agbor.) I am sure the Portuguese helped Oba Esigie to consolidate power in Edo.

Bros I'm sure the correct term is "empire" not kingdom

Radoillo:
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Sent!

To correct an erroneous statement I made earlier, Ryder didn't quite say the Ogane was a Beni-Nupe king. He only demonstrated that the Beni-Nupe confederacy is a piece in the puzzle of the Ogane's identity. Towards the end of the article, he made a fleeting indirect suggestion that it could have been the King of the Kwararafa/Jukun.

Now whats the connection between Jukun and Benin? You must admit that if anyone wants to suggest such a thing, there has to be traditons of a strong relationship between Benin and the King of that place

TOMTOM15:
Touching Story. About three phones have gone missing in our room in the past five months. When we reported to the School's security, they only told us that it was a roommate that is responsible. Everyone of us in the room was waiting for the day we will catch the culprit.
Last Tuesday, when we were all asleep; I think it was about 2 am, Ben woke up suddenly and his phone was gone. His phone was the most expensive of us all. When Ben woke up and couldn't find his phone, he sprang up from the bed and quickly opened his cupboard. He rummaged the contents, even removed his clothes but could still not find the phone.
I was in the room when it happened; sitting and reading before I dozed off with my heading resting on my books. So when Ben couldn't find his phone, he gently shook my shoulders until I woke up. 'It has happened again', he told me.
I didn't even need to ask what happened as I could see the panic and loss written in his eyes.
This is the second time his phone had been stolen. So I took my phone and dialed Ben's number; just to be sure it had not been misplaced. 'Error in Connection' was what I saw on the screen of my phone. I dialed it again and it started ringing not just on my phone, but the actual ring tone of Ben's Samsung phone was faintly audible.
We were both surprised when we heard the tone. I beckoned on Ben to keep quiet as he was visibly ready to 'finish' the person who took his phone. I continued dialing as we moved silently, following the direction of the ring tone. There were four bunks in the room, each with two bed spaces. Ben and I use the same bunk just beside the door and the sound was coming from the last bunk at the extreme left corner.
We tiptoed, Ben and I, like Jack Baeur until we traced the sound to the top bed space on the last bunk. 'So it is John who had been stealing phones in this room'. Ben whispered to me.
We shook his leg and woke him up only to find out it was not John sleeping on the mattress. Neither of us had ever seen the guy before. To make matters worse, the ringing was coming
from the bag he was using as pillow.
When he woke up, he looked at us strangely as if he didn't know why we were there.
We opened the bag and found not just Ben's
Samsung, but three other phones. 'So, you are the one who's been stealing our phones!'; Ben shouted at him.
Before he could find an excuse, Ben slapped him on his left cheek and walked out looking for anything to break one or two of the guy's bones. I don't know; but there was something about the guy. So I asked him, 'Oga, what are you doing here?' 'What are you doing with Ben's phone'. He was just looking at me without saying anything, so I slapped his right cheek with my left hand.
'ANSWER ME!', I screamed at him; waking up the roommates who were around. John had obviously gone to night class to read and I assumed the other three roommates who were absent had also gone to read.
The two guys remaining in the room with me and Ben came and gave their own round of slaps. The accused was now staggering when Ben came back with a long wood hard enough to kill the guy. As he raised it up, the three of us, the roommates, held his hands so he wouldn't murder the accused. Ben dropped the wood and swept his right leg against the thief's legs and he fell down. Ben had told me before that he had attended the Soldiers' recruitment training but failed the medical test. I believed him right then.
I looked at the guy crumple on the floor and before Ben killed him, I decided to interview him, at least to know who he is. He was now sitting on the ground where he landed from Ben's force. 'Who are you?' I asked him again; this time gently. He was crying but it was only the tears that were coming out. It was then I realized he had not even uttered a word since it all started. Not even when he fell to the ground. 'Why are you in our room'? I asked again. 'Can you even talk?' He shook his head then. I was now confused. Why was he shaking his head?
So, I asked again, 'Can't you talk?' He shook his head again. 'Wait, is it that this guy is dumb?', I asked the guys.
The guy then nodded his head and pointed to his mouth and then shook his head left to right. It hit me then. The guy is dumb but not deaf. That was the first time I am seeing a case like that.
My anger changed to pity immediately. 'Are you dumb?', I ashamedly asked the guy to confirm. Again, he nodded his head.
'Can you read and write?' He nodded again. 'Get me a pen and note!' I said to my roommates over my shoulder. I collected the pen and wrote on the note, 'Who are you? Explain yourself.' I was almost in tears as I read his fine handwriting, 'My name is James, I am John's elder brother. I am a student of Delta State University. I was traveling to Delta but our bus stopped for the night at Benin. So I decided to sleep with my brother till tomorrow morning. He brought me here around 12 am and went out to night class to read. He gave me the bag to keep for him. So I decided to use it as pillow so that it won't be stolen'.
I held the note with the guys at my back as all of us read it. I became so weak I almost fell.� 'The guy is innocent.' I needlessly announced.
When we realized this, even I was ashamed of myself.
Ben just stood there with the wood he almost used to hit him, looking as if he was the one who had been beaten. I am not sure, but I think I saw tears in his eyes as he realized he had just punished an innocent man.
So we knelt down; Ben and I, we knelt down and clasped our hands so he will know we were really sorry. With tears in our eyes, we told him, 'We are sorry. Sorry for accusing you wrongly and beating you for it'. The dumb guy just smiled with bleeding lips from the blow I gave him. He smiled and looked into our eyes. And I could see pity in his eyes. He smiled and shook his head and then wrote in the same paper. 'It is Alright. I took the pain willingly. Please don't beat my brother anymore. I knew why you were beating me. John had always been a thief, right from home. But please don't report or beat him again'.
Tears dropped from my eyes as I read his sacrifice. He deliberately allowed us beat him just so that John will be free. I lend my hand and raised him up as I used my cloth to wipe the tears from his face and blood from his lips. It was then my own tears flowed from the corners of my eyes.
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this is what Jesus did for us on the cross of calvary. kept quiet and even died so that we can be saved. He never protested his innocence but bore it all for us. He gave his life for you. What have you given for him?
Return the life to Him, He's in Love with u.....
Send to others by sharing....
it's high time we won more souls for Christ..

Sharap jesus was no innocent man. He committed crimes against the Roman government and Jewish customs


This is however not where you should be posting stuff like this. .. There's the religion section

deeprof123:
united nigeria is achievable.

Don't be deceived

United nigeria exists only in your dreams

Lincolnburrows:
The question F.G should ask themselves is "why are people still clamoring for this cause?" There cannot be true progress of a nation without genuine reconciliation, fairness, non_victimization, equality to all parties concerned. How many people are really proud to be Nigerians? How many people can die for Nigeria? What is the Nigerian dream(just like we have American dream). Who are our founding fathers....Are they men of integrity?
The hard fact is that 80 years from now, the next generation will still be clamouring for break-up which goes to show that the foundation of this country is wrong.

Nigeria is not a nation because nobody is willing to die for Nigeria. Breaking this country can be a blessing in disguise for all parties.

Beautiful! Nigeria is only a curse to the Nigerian people

What does "Ofo Nri-Menri" mean? Could I get word for word translation too?

@ bokohalal interesting stuff right there. but what place east of Bini is highly revered?

@ Radoillo, I don't understand what you mean by "Beni-Nupe confederacy"

gbishman:
I really don't think this is a smart move, even if they succeed you are simply just trading one terrorist group for the other. Just my candid thought

How are traditional institutions terrorists?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with what FFK just said

Kanu is a nuisance and a typical igbo noisemaker but nobody has the right to detain him without charging him to court

This is kidnapping

khassy:
this man is the perfect definition of a dunderhead

Why? What did he say wrong?

ellabooz:
I am beginning to see reasons why many people don't like this man. He is very bold, courageous and fearless.

The likes of Falani or falana will say the opposite in order to get ministerial position but guess what? He was ask to lick the ass of a midget in kaduna and he took off.

Falana is a useless man

NOBODYY:

You must be dumber than I thought

NOBODYY:
The devil will give u an egg & take a whole cow



It will defeat Boko haram for u & give something worse than ISIS


God4bid such anyway

Its only you that will invoke the devil.

Foolish morons

eleko1:
Nobody stp them.They shud move their shrine to North East and do the needful.They dnt need govt permission to do dat,we'll surely appreciate their effort/may the gods see dem tru.

Smh pls read the op again this time slowly

Er0ticAngela:
what a dimwit you are.
Did i write anything about prayers/pastors/christianity in my initial post?
It is extremely foolish to assume that the BH insurgency can be curbed by any pastor or by your ifa jargons

You are the dimwit. If you don't know anything about Ifa you should shut up

opyscol:
And d so called "ESHU" would do all these free of charge??

A couple of adin in the name of shekau might be all

9jacrip:
The post's opinion on tackling BH is through the stoppage of corruption amongst the leaders and not confronting BH. It is a post seeking how to get recoginition for traditional belief system.

I'm surprised others didn't realize this

Me even want nigeria to break. ..make we lose the sovereignty

mej67:
Sorry for using ordinary.

But the last Deji physically abused the wife, beat her on the street and now she is dead. RIP. The current Deji dines with thugs who will pounce on anybody who forgets or fails to remove his cap in his presence.

That is strike 2.

Both are behavioyrs of ordinary street and garage folks, bro.

Have you heard of Obi of Onitsha or any monarch in Igboland beating his wife or hiring thugs to cause violence?

Being proud of your culture - hahahahahahaha, I laugh in Spanglish. You guys are stuck in the past. Nothing modern, nothing learned. The Ooni of Ife died and schools started to close because there would be human heads to bury the Ooni. Jesus! in 21st Century!!!!!!

Read
"I am of the deep conviction that the era of head hunting is truly gone. We should not permit its revival under whatever guise.
If the traditional authorities of a town decide that schools should close shop or subtly warn people to keep indoors, the Nigerian state must demand a satisfactory explanation."
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/opinion/ooni-s-death-and-burial-a-very-worrisome-trend-i/107287.html
FEAR GRIPS ILE IFE AS OONI'S DEMISE IS ANNOUNCED TODAY..BANKS,SCHOOLS TO CLOSE DOWN

Big shame on you!!!!

Selling and buying of human parts, human sacrifice, ritual killing, money ritual, rape, murder. That is the news emanating from Yorubaland and you call it love for your tradition. Meanwhile all the big church pastors are with you and you have failed to convert.

Such a backward society.

I've had to spend nights at Badagry and the Asamkpete cult still kills humans in the night. Your host will immediately warn you upon stepping in that no outing in the night because of Asamkpete. And truly, they murder people and dismember their corpses and drop them on the road side.

Shiiiiiit!!!!!!!!

Cus igbos have no palace traditions or any reasonable monarchy that demands respect doesn't mean yoruba should too - if you cannot get this into your head then you are lost to stupidity


Can you prove that the death of the Ooni required human sacrifice? Or prove that yoruba Traditionalists kill and rape?
Schools were closed and so were markets. .yes, that's the beauty of yoruba traditions, stop calling the government, you are not Yoruba and have no say in the law of yoruba states

You foolish igbos see everything bad in african culture, to the extent of lying. . No wonder your children don't know their history or even language
You know why you are like this? You have a very primitive culture that you rather abandon and through that you think all other African cultures are also primitive like yours

modath:
Any secession message that didn't come before 1st of April 2015 is just a cry by the bereaved...

The book will soon be opened to his misappropriation of FED MIN of Aviation funds & he can then continue his freedom call from captivity....

LouisVanGaal:
The question should be why didn't this message come b4 May 29th 2015? All I see is a political-seeking sycophant who is out of work, looking for gullible minds to sway...
Oduduwa republic kor; balewa republic ni..

After reading all this you couldn't address the points raised

this article is over a year, for your information

cosby02:
Why didnt he do that while he was in government now that he is out, he woke up from his slumber and realised he has a cause to pursue.

This article is over a year so what are you saying

fyneguy:


SW TANoids are now asking for Oduduwa Republic, having lost out in the elections.

Nonsense. The request for Oduduwa republic didn't start today

atule185:
Even fani kayo a man whose immediate family is in disarray is talking,this man is insane and needs to be rehabilitated he amongst others brought us were we are today,beautiful brain but wickedness lies in his heart he will soon reap what he is sowing, we want no war,asked those with medals of war on their shoulders blood fumes on their hands till date! All we need as a nation is common sense revolution not fani kayode's nonsense from the pit of hell. He should die for all i care if i must die today i will die with honor not a death out of mischief makers and my own cowardice. I rest my case.

After reading all this (or many you didn't) the only thing you could do is to insult the speaker, you didn't even address the issues he spoke on

cosby02:
I dont think i should read this based on where its coming from.

Deep down you cannot find anything wrong with Fani Kayode

Mention two things that nobody else is guilty of

Pavore9:
One of the deceptive thing about our politicians is that they transform to "deep thinkers" when they are no longer in government nor getting something from it but invite them to the "dining table" they change tune, singing the litany of ONE NIGERIA!

This article was written by FFK during jonathan's time

Ffk might like money and women so much but he has always been about Yoruba emancipation

mej67:
See me see wahala.

Ordinary Deji of Akure, we no go hear word.

I have mentioned some world renown monarchs and you are dodging. You guys don't want to learn. Your ways are backward. Even the Hausas we used to make fun off have overtaken you.

Give me the pedigree of this Deji and I will tell you the root cause of this matter -illiteracy.

Everywhere you go, you see well educated people as monarchs. In Yoruba, only we hear about is thuggery, wife battering, threat of violence and violence proper.

Didn't the 'Deji' of Ibeju Lekki sit and oversee the killing of the MD of Free trade zone, just the other day. How far with that one.

It is a big shame that those that should be hiding their faces in utter shame are busy making posts on this forum. That your tradition of violence will be changed or it will consume you all.

Ordinary? Well none of ur useless monarchs are up to his level
Deji of Akure is no small position


And you cannot compare yourself to yorubas. We have a more advanced culture than you fools. .. That's why we are most cultured and love it so
While igbos are ashamed of your own culture

Adminisher:
It is cowards who want to break Nigeria. The only problem with Nigeria is corrupt leadership. It is a human problem not one of geography or administrative scope.
You cannot say because you failed JAMB they should close all universities. That is as ridiculous as saying you want to break Nigeria because it is not working.

Its lazy brains who want to remain in nigeria. As far as I know people who keep ddeluding themselves with the chant "One nigeria" are simply too unintelligent to see beyond what they are told and fear of the uncertain

The corruption we see in nigeria is at this level because we lack patriotism. ..and you can't force patriotism. . Citizens develop that when they feel bounded together .. Nigerians aren't bounded
It's every man to your tent

An Oduduwa republic will have moderate population for the government to reach its people, negligence, discrimination that is so rampant in nigeria will be found no where. Crime will reduce, we will be capable of controlling our population, create laws that suit our over a thousand year old Culture and traditions, we will develop our land with our own resources
The advantages are endless

Dapaboy:
Will a loose federation as found in the United Kingdom be the solution where you have devolution in Scotland. Wales and Northern Ireland have a high degree of autonomy.

Even the likes of Scotland want to break away from the UK upon the high degree of autonomy and devolution

So why can't the nationalities within nigeria get this autonomy?
I think federalism isn't enough, Yoruba for instance will need to have all its people together from north central to South south. . Then together form an autonomous Nation with its own Parliament and Executive and legal standards

cybertyrant:
His popularity growing
Vanguard done report am
Next is
Punch
Guardian
Sun
Sahara reporters
BBC
aljazeera

Future news -prophet cybertyrant

War

Nigerian troops captured

Negotiations on captured troops

Exchange of kanu with 120 captured soldiers

8 States under rebel occupation

Buhari pleads with USA on occupated states

USA has failed us again -gowon

Buhari meets cameron on nigeria mayhem

Buhari to meet putin on biafra rebels and boko haram terrorists

Boko haram captures borno and adamawa

We will use our former strategy -obasanjo

Rebels loosing ground

Nuclear bomb threat: i will bombard the zoo with our new nuclear bombs-nnamdi kanu

600Days of captured states by boko haram and rebels

Nigeria wont survive-bakare

Israel,jamaica,haiti,South africa, gabon,france,tanzania,ivory coast +more recognizes Biafra

Bakassi peninsula captured by Biafra rebels

We will declare oduduwa if u dont defeat Biafra rebels by next year -yoruba elders

I wont give up-buhari

Biafra air strikes mainland bridge lagos

Lagos captured by Biafra rebels

Referendum issued to Biafra rebels

Yoruba leaders declare oduduwa republic

Oduduwa declaration:u are going nowhere or we will kill all of u-sanusi lamido

Say amen to my seen prophecy
At least 80% will be correct

dreams dreams dreams

But I support biafra