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winniz:
All you stated here is a well known fact, I can't believe how Yorubas have been desperately trying to rewrite the history of Nollywood which was single handedly created by Igbos.

And Music Industry was Single Handedly created by Yorubas, we only accommodate Non yorubas. .. on the grounds that they pay us homage by making some of their lyrics out of yoruba language
If Igbos dare go back on this we run y'all out of the industry

DikeOha882:
Bogus statement full of lies

ooh really? BUT u spread lies that Igbos run Nollywood

You forget that Nollywood is media and Yorubas drive media in this country

But if you really think that's a lie why not show me how

patrick89:
Any yoruba girl that is fine is always mistaken as an igbo girl!!!


If you doubt that, why do you call them "Omo jo Igbo" (a child that resembles igbo)
Ndi njo wuru ahu.

Ki lo wa kan mi kan yen? People tend to take light complexion as a characteristic of the Igbo ethnic group
Watch it it's the skin colour not beauty. .. unless the person's idea of beauty is light skin

9jacrip:
I.d!ots are all over the thread trying so hard to peg the credit of Nollywood to the ethnic group of their choice.

Let us get something clear on what Nollywood movie actually is.

Nollywood movie is any Nigerian movie in which the actors use English as a medium of expression regardless of the cultural background used or ethnic background of the acts.

From the above definition, Nollywood cannot be pegged to any ethnic group, it becomes 'Nigerian' as a result of the use of English which by implication makes gives the movie a wider audience base within and outside Nigeria - this has a direct impact on sales.

However, there are Yorubawood movies, Igbowood movies and Hausawood movies. All targeted at particular audiences which in turn affects sales.

My take:

Pegging Nollywood (English based movies regardless of where acts are from or culture used) to Ibo is not only silly but calls the intelligence of such thinkers into question.

If ethnic based movies are to be compared then we could look at ibo movies where ibo is spoken, Yoruba movies where Yoruba is spoken and Hausa movies where Hausa is spoken - throughout.

Moving from Movies, When we talk TELEVISION Shows yorubas run the show from WAP production to Fuji house to Family ties etc.

Even the TV stations are owned by Yorubas ,
Music nko? We all know that Yoruba language is the favorite for Musical artists in nigeria

MEDIA in nigeria is basically driven by Yorubas

bigfrancis21:
If you ask any intelligent question I'll respond to you. To be honest, your so-called 'intelligent' question can simply be answered by doing a search on Google without having to ask me. I guess you're not so intelligent after all to realize that.

I've never known a more shameless human being. . I used to think Tonychristopher was bad but mehn you are lost to stupidity.. the price of bigotry

To answer simple question you cannot answer..when you have no answers that serve ur bigoted agenda


You cannot stand my intellect and it's a fact. A bigot can never be intelligent. . Take that very seriously, A bigot like you can only spew stupidity
I've addressed all ur errors and corrected them for sensible people reading through the thread

If you think I made any blundering points to this argument of Nollywood kindly correct them, to not do so means you have nothing to say

rexbuton:
oral tradition must always dey exagerrated.. me I prefer to believe the 4576 miles version

Its not oral traditions it's recent "discoverers"
You know when people need something to make them feel some relevance they just make up senseless stuff

bigfrancis21:
And then you claim you're not following me all over the place quoting my posts?

you are not intelligent enough to address my post. I get it. U rather turn the tables and leave my questions hanging like the chicken that you are. . When ur lies are exposed
If you were a sensible human being after Making claims that Igbos run Nollywood you would have addressed my post and answered my question not act like a dog on heat

9jacrip:
You're wasting your time on that sheetbo thing.

Other than being able to write English, he is completely devoid of substance.

Saying Ijebu deny being Yoruba.

Egbon, it's not for him I reply but for the people who might be gullible enough to take a shameless lying bigot seriously

bigfrancis21:
I have one here in my office in the US, born to a Yoruba father and Igbo mother and she is so proud of her maternal ancestry. Physically, she looks very much Igbo. It also seems that non-Igbos born to Igbo mothers often tend to look more Igbo than their father's ancestry. Another example is Eberechi Yemi Alade, a half Igbo half Yoruba girl, who looks every inch Igbo.

I'm sure in ur demented head Omotola must have igbo blood cus all beautiful women look every inch igbo

bigfrancis21:
It cannot be called Biafran players because officially Biafra as a name does not exist. If Igbos were also known as Biafrans, not in reference to a country but as an alternative name, then it could be plausible to refer to Nigeria's football team as being mostly a Biafran team (in terms of an alternative name to 'Igbo' and not as a country).

The Igbos, being accommodating of other tribes, accommodated talented non-Igbo actors and actresses and we all know that there are several non-Igbo actors, directors and actresses amongst the greater number of Igbo actors, actresses, producers and directors but that does not take away the fact that it is majorly and Igbo industry manned and run by Igbos in and out.

Pls mention a few names of these igbos running the industry

bigfrancis21:
Lol. I am not even going to respond to you clown or the piece of trash you have written up there. You follow me around all day quoting my posts with relish. My posts keep you alive on nairaland. Please have a field day digesting the article below. And when you've finished digesting it, feel free to regurgitate what you have learned and spread the word around to other ignorant fellas.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/26/magazine/nollywood-movies.html

Wtf! I follow you around? I Open a thread that interests me and quote a post with lots of errors to correct and you say I'm following you
Are you this lonely?

bigfrancis21:
As if we don't know that Saraki has consistently denied being Yoruba? How about the Yoruba-speaking ones in Kogi and Kwara states that deny being Yorubas?

Saraki Denies Being Yoruba

https://www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali

Yorubas are not left out in the identity crisis game. Several Yoruba-speaking groups have consistently denied being Yoruba. The Ijebus deny being Yorubas. Egun people in Lagos state are not Yoruba. I had a Nigerian classmate, Ayo, here in the US currently working with Cisco who graduated last spring that told me he is not Yoruba but from 'one tribe like that in Ondo' state. So guy abeg calm down jor. Some Yoruba-speaking people do not like being called Yoruba.

Smh. Bukola Saraki has the right to keep his ancestry alive. . He has fulani ancestry so what? At least he knows where his family came from and doesn't claim middle-east.
Ijebu don't deny being yoruba, the current Awujale only claims his blood line is from sudan....nobody knows where he got that from cus known before ever doubted Ile-Ife. Btw Ijebu has been in existence before Awujale title
And somehow this Ijebu - Sudan claim only exist on mischievous Internet articles

Egun might not be yoruba linguistically but socio- culturally they are... even today they speak yoruba as well as Egun

There are Ijaw tribes in Ondo state so what are you saying?

Chinaimporter:

Now i see where your handsomness and classiness come from. A typical yoruba man can never be like you that is why you see the only yorubas good enough to have national appeal are those with igbo blood like you and segun arinze.
I know you hate your father for that singular drop of yoruba blood he gave you that almost totally contaminated you.
Thank God you have purified your blood by further diluting it with the blood of our brothers from akwa ibom and calabar.....the greatest and truest friends of the igbos and our eternal allies.May God give you the ability to shed all yoruboid thing from your blood

Waoh! Yet this "bad" yoruboid blood has many achievements "good" igbo blood only dream of

bigfrancis21:
You lack the history. You need the history. It is so easy to claim Nollywood now because it is successful. I guess you need understanding. Let me make things clear to you.

Abiodun starts a company, ABC, in 1960 dealing in fruit production. However, his market outreach is within a particular zone.

In 1980 Emeka starts a company, DEF, dealing in fruit production as well as soft drinks within his zone. Later Emeka changes to food production proper seeing the greater demand for food nationwide and also the greater market coverage and business potential that lies in it. 20 years later, his company grows exponentially and expands into other zones and the country decides that it would be a good idea to merge ABC and DEF into one greater national comapny, ABDEF, that represents the entire country, however each company still maintains and runs its own affairs within.

This is only but an artificial narration to help you understand the history of Nigeria's movie industry today.

It is very clear in the minds of Nigerians that Nollywood is an Igbo success story. Igbos gave Nollywood the life and spirit that it has today. Yorubawood can split out of Nollywood today and Nollywood will still remain strong as if nothing left. Yorubas know that Nollywood isn't Yoruba and often use it to refer to as an Igbo movie industry.

In life, it is not about who started first. One thing is constant in life - change. People worldwide know this. It is only amongst Yorubas that I see this idea of their being first in this or that means that they must own or control that thing forever. In the business environment, competition exists. You have to find what gives you that competitive advantage over your competitors else others will take over. That is life. The Igbos being naturally competitive and business minded grew their movie industry to overtake prior movie industries in Nigeria to build the number 2 largest movie industry in the world and number 3 in terms of gross annual revenue, ahead of the Chinese, Japanese, British, Australian, New Zealand, South African movie industries in little under 30 years. This feat attributed to the hardwork and success of the Igbos who made it possible. The switch from Igbo to English helped in expanding the Igbo movie industry while still maintaining the Igbo culture and traditions in the movies. The section of Nigeria's movie industry the world outside sees is the Igbo-acting part, and not the Yoruba acting part. Unlike the Yoruba-speaking industry, the Igbo movie industry is not limited to the SE and Igbo-speaking areas of SS. It is expansive and exclusive to all of Nigeria, Africa, the Caribbean (my Haitian colleague at work tells me how she and her sister love Nollywood movies and how she has picked up words such as 'nna anyi, 'Igwe' etc. you commonly hear in Nollywood movies), Europe, Asia and America. I walk into stores right here in America and see Nollywood movies for sale alongside American movies. The level of achievement of Nollywood.

On the other hand, Yorubawood is limited to the South West with far lesser market or viewing audience compared to Nollywood proper. Left to the Yoruba-speaking industry, Nigeria's movie industry would not have been what it is today had we waited on the industry. Till today this industry still struggles to make profitable revenues and their actors and actresses are grossly underpaid compared to what those in the Nollywood industry earn. Yoruba actors and actresses in Nollywood are richer and more popular than their counterparts in the Yoruba-speaking industry. Save for a few Yoruba producers, such as Kunle Afolayan, of recent who are taking advantage of the current popularity, fame, status and worldwide audience Nollywood has created to make money, the industry is nowhere to be compared to Nollywood proper. Of recent, we are now beginning to see more Yoruba movie stars crossing over into Nollywood proper such as Funke Akindele, Eniola Badmus etc.

Let us learn to give honour to whom it is due. Nigeria can only be great if we decide to leave the unnecessary tribal gimmicks and appreciate the efforts of others.

Ok enough laughing.

1. Yoruba film department is exclusively yoruba, although Edo and few igbo folks who can speak yoruba participate, it's yoruba language, about Yoruba societies. Note as much people understand yoruba like english so english spoken movies sell more. .
2. Nollywood mainstream is not exclusively igbo, the language of the movies are not igbo. The participation is largely igbo yes but with indispensable Non igbo contributions, production is fast and of large quantity by Igbo producers yes. ..
3. what about quality of production? We all know that Yoruba producers like Kunle Afolayan and the Edo men Lancelot Imasuen and Charles Novia also Jeta Amata(and other filmmakers from his family) make QUALITY NOT QUANTITY and their movies gain wide publicity and popularity such that we remember the titles of the movies after watching. .. Can you or anyone mention any igho filmmaker who's movies is up to the quality of the men I mentioned above? All the movies from Igbo men that we forget their titles right after watching? Is that you are bragging about. . Movies with ridiculous titles like "royal snakes" sequel to "cobra of the palace" with Igwes that don't even portray Igbo Culture
Infact Tchidi Chikere is the only Igbo filmmaker in their league. ..but stil beneath them cus I can't remember any good movie from him right now. .I just have him in my head as a filmmaker with potential
4. Nollywood mainstream has movies that show beautiful aspects of Yoruba, Edo, Efik culture and Identity ... upon the many Igbo involvement in Nollywood not so many movies show anything significant on Igbo culture

APC just dumped this fool on the people of Surulere

I'm sure he couldn't win the election on his own merit

truth is we all know that the Walls of China is the longest and the Pyramid of Khufu is the Tallest man made structure


But wait o. Eredo is 200km. Some claim Iya was 16,000 km (although much of it has been vandalised) others say 6,500km
It's funny how people label everything "largest man made structure" just for publicity

Someone even said it's four times longer than the walls of China that is over 21,000km

Rossikk:
I don't believe they've done anything like enough archaeological research in Ile-Ife. I'm certain that if that place was given a really good dig, on the scale of what they do in places like Egypt and Mexico, we would discover amazing things.

That's right. But it would take an Ooni that has love for such a thing and support from the Osun state government

pasol4real:
Oga u better start thanking God every day of life that the whites came to Africa ,cos I wonder what wud hav become of us .I don t understand why ppl cannot call a spade a spade .or are I saying that Africa wud hav bin better without the coming of the whites? What was our situation before they came ?even now ,with all the help n eye opening by the whites , Africa still lag far, far behind how much more without their help n assistance.
We just bid to admit the truth these guies are far more superior than we blacks n it's the simlple truth .
Or how do u explain the fact that civilization started in Africa yet Africa remains the most backward, poorest,blackest n most uncivilized in the world.

smh. yes Africa was better before foreigners came with their abominations to pollute our land and people. just look at u, a fair example of an African lost, striped off his identity like a slave
eye opening? more like eye closing
not that all whites are bad but most are and have always hated you black man... never feel gratitude to Caucasians, most of what they know they learnt from black people of north Africa, how were they repayed? by invading their lands
even till the 18th century, We had more knowledge than them; medicine, art, metallurgy etc. the only thing they had were Ships and Guns and oh yes, they also turned the bible into a weapon against us... like someone once said "they had the bible, we had the land, they said lets pray when we opened our eyes they had the land and dumped the bible with us "
they caged our minds and your mind is still caged

wytecat:
Yoruba man, I trust you to bring 'bini' into it. For some reason any topic shocasing Yoruba culture and civilization greatness just happens to be unsettling to you

Bini are not Yoruba but you manage to squeeze them in any topic of this kind to give them relevance at our expense

Also, "it's not man-made, yet it was "dug" by slaves, hahn? The slaves back then were machines.

People like you should never be taken under Yoruba's wing.

mad woman

tpiander:
the last sentence in your post, about people walking two months in the structure.

of course I don't take that seriously

django1:
The technology to build anything that flies could not have possibly existed 3000 years ago na bros. Cool down. Lol

Who told you that? Maybe it wasn't successful like Leonardo Da Vinci's but designs and plans could have existed

tpiander:
does what you typed make sense to you?

Depends on the parts you referring to

Ehn but just know that nobody really knows anything am the moat. You see one person say it was influenced by Bini, another it was a Yemeni woman... all kinds of stuff
So don't fault my post na wetin I read I post

absoluteSuccess:
Yes my big brother,

It's the same set of people moving up and down the littoral region and the creeks of the bight of benin in different ethnicity.

I was surprised when grandma described someone as Shekirinu, She's familiar with them via the interactions at the riverine contacts.

It was then I understand that the world culturally connects at sea sort of.

Owo, Warri, Awori, Ohori, Awonrin: all these place names sound similar enough than to be mere happenstance.

The Aja are a branch of Egun people.

Awonrin (Ahonrin) is Egun name for Eko, Lagos.

Oh I see, so you are saying Ajah was settled by Egun folks from Benin Republic, similar to Maroko, Makoko in Ebutemetta

I'm even interested in Apa town in Badagry. . I was told that Ado married a wife from there
Is that an Egun or Awori town

bigfrancis21:
Growing up I always thought that Akara is an Igbo word given its prevalent usage and consumption in Igboland.

People make reference to the use of the word in Brazil as being an import following the arrival of Yoruba slaves to the country however Igbo slaves were taken to Brazil, in addition to Yoruba slaves, but Yoruba slaves were albeit greater in number than Igbo in Brazil. The word may have been taken to Brazil by Igbo slaves.

Smh you've started with your shameless unnecessary lies again. . What is there about borrowing a word from others that makes you wanna deny it?

Read this guys

Penssuwa:
akara, agidi and ashawo are all Yoruba words. our Igbo teacher taught us in primary school that they belong to group of words called "okwu mbite" ie, borrowed words.

bokohalal:
Very easy to know that this is a Yoruba word. There is no trace of Igbo culture in Brazil. Almost all of the popular black Brazilian traditions are of Yoruba origin and the rest from the Congo and Angola area

teeboila:
this hate campaign will only plunge you to an abyss of self destruction or what have the peaceful existence of the igbo in yorubaland done to you. only lazy and naive folks like you who thinks igbo makes more profit doing bussiness in yorubaland thinks and spit trash about the igbo this way. stripping the eze of his title is more than enough but closing of his kinsmen sho ise) ps and denying them their means of livelihood thats harsh. if you are learned then you will know no part of Nigeria constitution support the Oba to infringe on his subject human right irrespective of what the eze has done. once again am a yoruba man(Ka ma ranti omo eni ti an se ninu gbogbo ohun ti a ba n se, yala ni ero tabi ni ise)

Go back to where you are coming from. The igbos decided to close their own chops. .. better for them
Stop saying nonsense if you got nothing to say

Better things to come then

absoluteSuccess:
Awori is a dialect of Yoruba, and a Yoruba speaker can easily understand Awori.

Egun on the other hand is a language on its own, seperate from Yoruba. A Yoruba speaker can never understand Egun, vice versa.

The similarity is in the area of culture, history and worldview to some extent. The Egun has their variant dialects, just like Yoruba.

Aja, Ajara, Setor, Gbekon, Alada, Tori are some forms of Egun dialects. Meanwhile, people of Whydah and cotonou speaks Yoruba and Alada.

I'm sure bigfrancis21 was referring to Aja village in Lekki Lagos

tpiander:
^ how so?

what exactly are you talking about?

teeboila:
though i'm a yoruba guy(from ondo state precisely) but all what d Deji of Akure is asking of from the Igbo in Akure is more of a recipe for division in an already tense state with great divisions along ethnic and tribal lines as seen in the 2015 election and more reason for the actualisation and agitation of the biafrans in the first place i.e intimidation. How do you describe a situation whereby an Oba would order the closure of shops belonging to an ethnic group because he's offended by their leader, what section of our 1999 constitution as amended gave him the right to do so.

look at this one. Who cares what you are? It is when folks want to lie and say something senseless they say "though I'm yoruba"

tell us what part of ur 1999 constitution gives directives on market management?

liberty300:
trash!! He can't do that..hes not the state government



You don't pick a fight with the igbos and win. Ask northern nigeria how they're looking now, ask the oba that wished them death by lagoon how his people are dying in the lagoon(they say am insensitive by saying this but what da hell..)

If this news is true, then the oba and his people have difficult days ahead. Am not bragging, am just stating the obvious

Before you talk, remember what led to this..the dressing of an Igbo that honored his invitation. After Wch the Igbo apologized after being humiliated..it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, it takes a bigger man to apologize even when he's right

noisemaking chest beater

Chibaba247:
Wat a silly king

Dude, your igbo folks should have respected traditions
Now Akure has an Oba that has no time for seresere
Next stop Ibadan, Lagos etc


I just love this OBA. Best Oba of the year

kingzizzy:
This is absolute nonsense. The Deji of Akure has no right to dictate to Igbos how to conduct their cultural affairs. What business of his is it? He may have the right to decide who can wear a crown in his palace but he has no right to dethrone anybody. Does he he think he is dealing with his fellow Yorubas here? This is laughable

eeeyah but you can't do anything but make noise like a typical noisemaker