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oreos:
Human sacrifice is still much prevalent at the death of a king. I am not going into details. I just want you to know that it happens although I believe that the tradition is dying out.

Its very simple. Do you have evidence to this?
Are you part of the palace chiefs that performs the rites or do you execute the sacrifice? You have to go into details because this is a serious allegation against Ife

oreos:
Yes, I have

It is very much still alive

Any proof?

omojoshy:
Receive SENSE in Jesus Name......Amen in case you are reluctant saying it.

Actually you are the one who needs sense for believing all this nonsense lies about Abobaku

omojoshy:
I'm sure the REAL Abobaku will remain at large indefinitely while an INNOCENT man will be arranged.

What a nonsense culture at this 21st century.

Many thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ, for taking us out of this darkness....and shame to the Devil and gods.

Guys, hit 'Like button' for the Redeemer of our Souls. And RIP the dead.

There's No Abobaku involved in the entire rites.
It was a fake news meant for silly and gullible folks like you

Weah96:
Certain holy books have a recipe that guarantees victory. Do this, do that, say this, and the mountain will move.

What is aborisha?

A bo orisa - one that venerate Orisa

nwanlecha:
And i also noticed that you have this wrong notion of claiming that only the yorubas had cinema houses in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. Dude, cinema houses were all over nigeria not just your lagos. And we all know that Nollywood did not start with showing homemade movies or foreign movies as the case may be, in cinema houses which we Igbos were also doing. So please stop with that line of argument, 'cause it makes you look so naive and desperate to prove a non-existent point.
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If other nigerians were involved in Cinema during the 60s through to the 80s that's good. ..more honor to Nigeria

Although I'll like to know your source to the information and the names of contributors and years active, titles of movies

Actually most cinema actions were in Ibadan...I had Ibadan in mind all along not lagos

nwanlecha:
Of course i can beat my chest and say that nigeria without the Igbos will be non-existent. Why wouldn't i say that, when nigeria fought desperately for over three years to keep us with them? That act alone shows that the Igbos are indispensable to your existence as nigerians.
Secondly, i can see that you yorubas are so desperate to attach by force to the success of Nollywood which the Igbos invented. That is certainly not a problem because it's normal to want to attach to an already successful venture, especially if you do not know how to build one yourself. But my advice to you guys is that you had better start building your oduawood now, just as the hausas have established their own called kannywood. We Biafrans will be leaving nigeria soonest, and we will definitely be living with all our inventions, including Nollywood which you yorubas have so shamelessly been lusting over.

I hope you know that Ojukwu instigated the war and brought all that on his people with the way he went about things yet when push came to shove for him he ran away to Abidjan

I don't want it to seem as if I am making anti igbo statements but clearly yyou aren't so intelligent, there's a wild lie spreading trying to discredit people. ..now trying to set things straight is desperste attachment to igbos? are you kidding me?

You are dumb indeed. ..I really don't mean this as an insult but an honest opinion of you
So in ur bigoted mind you think A Biafran movie industry will have nothing to do with other west africans? Even in Nigeria, Ghanaians are involved
Pls use ur head

FOLYKAZE:
What nonsense is this?

Lol

I asked you what the difference between Ogun the deity and Metal is and all you could do is insult my person. Bro, I do not want to go down that path with you.

I am asking you to explain yourself. How is God different from the plain nature of God? I presented two local deities/sacred entity and all you could do is to jump at greek Gods. Like wtf?

Ogun is the God of Iron. How is it different from Metal?

How is Ogun that drink blood like the Yoruba believe different from Sword that cuts?

How is Ogun that eat plant sap different from the Cutlass we use to cut plant?

Do I need to source out where you said Ogun the deity is Iron? I wont do that but pls tell us the difference between Ogun the bone moulder and calcium.

How is Iroko the sacred tree different from the ones in sawmill?


I dont yet understand how I am forcing my perception of God on others. We have argued this on different occassions and I will always hold my position that a deity is the samething as the essense it represent.

Sango is eletrical energy, thunder, justice and lightening. Telling me you dont believe in Sango is the same thing as telling me you dont believe in Justice or everyother thing Sango represent.

When next you see a hunter praying that Ogun will not bath with his blood, note that he mean Ogun (metalic objects) will not struck into his body.

When driver says the same thing, he mean his vechile (metalic body) wont cause his sudden death.

In the real sense, Ogun is a metalic object.

So when you tell me that you dont believe Ogun drink, bath and eat blood, I will just look at you like you mad person.

I hold the ground that a deity is the same thing as the essense it holds.

you just added Ogun to your last post. .it wasn't there when I first read it

Folykaze do you want to keep believing this bold parts or you are interested in expanding ur understanding?
Because I think we are going back and forth

Btw what is wrong with Greeks. ..they are among the earliest people to use God to explain Nature

Seun:
It's illegal to murder someone because the king is dead. It's mind-blowing to think that the government has been allowing them to do this.

Allowing what exactly? Surely Seun you are more intelligent than this

No pix, No name When in Yorubaland was the incident of Abobaku last recorded. ..you ever heard of it in your lifetime?

9jacrip:
See this abeg:

http://lindaikeji..com/2015/08/traditional-chiefs-sighted-on-streets.html?m=1

Sad how people stoop so low for cheap traffic to their sites and blogs

And oh btw a Person is not an atheist just because he says he is.

If one beliefs in the pantheist God then he is pantheist not atheist

the issue here is how you seem to force Gaia on someone who said he doesn't believe in that concept just because what the concept is trying to explain is something that exist (the earth)

Tell me must I believe in Gaia mother of Uranus? How can I explain the earth birthing the sky? Little things like this drive people to total disbelief

FOLYKAZE:
Macof.

With all due resprect bro, you have not answered any of my questions in the other post. Allyou wrote is frankly pointless.

Go back and address my post.

Dude all u are trying to do is force god on others

If my post is pointless to u even with the libido and Venus analogy then u are truly confused and quiet reflection is what you need

I don't have to address every word but the entire message in whole...

FOLYKAZE:
The Omisebo in my street is not serving any importance other than accumulation of waste. People dont drink it, there is no farm close it, the fish there is not serve little kids who do not recognise it is God, and it chase people away and destroy properties when it rain heavily. So why is it worshipped when it is not serving any importance?

I think you understand what I mean when I said worshipped as God. There is a temple for worship, adherents/priest/priestess, there is a special sacrifice, prayers and rituals directed to this body of water which happens to be God. Why?

Then those who venerate it should tell u why they do so. It's madness to venerate something that you cannot identify it's importance
The case here maybe the river has a history of being venerated or the river itself is a shrine housing something you don't know


I believe all these questions are you joking around cus you know what pagan priests do

Folykaze.

"God" doesn't draw from the term "divine" so it doesn't mean divine status. .. rather divine status draws from God

God in philosophy is simply a concept to what isn't ordinarily seen to be communicated with (to understand a phenomena in various measures)

In Rome, Venus is the God of Lust
The romans and Greeks knew well the difference between their concept of Lust (Venus) and the plain act of Lust itself

While many traditions saw lust as evil, they saw it as divine (from God). Know an atheist among the romans might reject the roman concept of Lust (which is Venus) but still believe that lust(libido) itself exist


You see "God" "divine" etc are just misunderstood in this era
Even the awesome Spartacus was said to not believe the Gods existed but he surely believed in War (without believing Ares the concept of war)


And is plaetton the jesus of atheism? Do all atheist strive to be like him?

FOLYKAZE:
God existing independently as a concept, entity or Idea is one thing, making it appear in our own image (anthropomorphizion) is another thing. We all know that something was perrsonailized and raised to divinity statues. So the question is what makes that deified object worthy of people's worship?

What makes Olokun, Yemoja, Osun, Yemowo and Oba Gods? Why are they worshipped, prayed to while the body of water in swimming pool or in Geepee tank does not attract such reverence?

Why is rain water wasteful but the little water that flows through my street have dedicated shrine?

You should read my last comment. It answers this
And to add to that: When people acknowledge the importance of a thing, they tend to honour it, respect it, nurture it.
Animists don't do worship, but veneration.
Hence My mother is venerated by me, the river is venerated by many due to its importance in their lives, some venerate their smartphone, cars etc

Some people actually honour rain water.
How Do You Know the water in GP tank isn't venerated By anybody? That shiit saves lives you know

9jacrip:
This is so wrong.
So much negative media directed at the Ooni's passing, I wonder why.

Its a shame really
So many disgusting people in this country bent on tarnishing the image of Ife at all cost

CHESSBOARD:
I thought Yorubas are sophisticated people,...you mean they are still practicing this kind of ancient belief , No wonder Nigeria is backward

No we don't practice this.

However When egypt was the number one power in the world, they practiced this same tradition
Tradition has nothing to do with Economic state

kariit98:
We can't claim to be the most educated and most progressive people in Nigeria and still be glorifying this primitiveness. We are trying so hard to make it funny which it isn't. I'm ashamed. Folks in Ife can't even go about their normal lives because of this.

Sharrap you fool. you know nothing
This news is fake and not of Yorubaland

bumtos:
Nonsense. When are we going to have wisdom in this country especially we yoruba people? Does that means that Abobaku must die with Ooni of ife? If am the one, I will run away from this country for life. Yeye People.

You are very stupid. So you believe this nonsense targeted against your people? You are so ignorant and gullible - this is not a trait of a yoruba man

The stuupid people that came up with this cannot die a peaceful death.

Why so much lies about the rites of passage for the Ooni.

And here on this thread some morons believe this nonsense

PastorAIO:
But you can describe the concept.

What makes Olomitutu ( Osun ) a God? Her importance to the world, her role as a giver of fresh water which sustains humans in many ways like soil fertility, healing, human fertility.

The river itself is not the God but the importance of the river drives people to develop a concept around it. .and they explain this concept in personification

As I said in the other thread, God is a concept, a notion based on the understanding and imagination of Man. ..hence man made God in his image. .not the other way round

Ngokafor:
.....Too much voodoo and witchcraft that only harms humanity..festival my foot Nonsense!

What harm has voodoo and witchcraft done to you?
Fool

Nicepoker:
of cos just like aregbe the rascal

You are mad. Do u think I care about Aregbesola? What has politics got to do with this thread
You are just a fool and as I said you lack sense

To be honest Folykaze you seem confused.
You are a brother but I think you need to get certain things straight here.

Atheist don't believe in the divinity of whatever. ..doesn't mean the plain face nature of that thing is non existent

Using Ra/Sun logic doesnt apply to any atheist because he would rather let go of the divinity of the sun which is Ra and retain the Sun in its plain and obvious form

Even atheist disagree with Pantheistic notion of divinity of the universe

Many people don't know that the original meaning of the word "God" from its numerous evolution through different dialects and languages is actually "Concept"

Acidosis:
Those who practice oro are not 'silly'

The silly ones include:

- Those who mix Church with other gods

- Those who use the 'white man' technology, but ignore the 'white man' God (e.g. YOU)

- Those who prevent vehicular and human movements in the name of one idio.tic carved image.

- Those who oppress women in their villages with silly traditions, whips and masquarade, yet respect the likes of Oprah Winfrey, Okonjo Iweala, Jennifer Lopez, etc.

- why go to church at all? It's just deceptive going to church to Listen to the nonsense said against ur traditions and go back to the traditions

- white man technology? you aren't intelligent at all
Technology isn't by one person but a universal process. .Technology began in africa and today due to African governments utter negligence africa has been behind in recent decades
This is very different from a God and religion which demands you to insult your father and hate your identity

- nobody does this. .. this is only in ur silly head

- you have proof of this? Or just another lie for Jesus?

tete7000:
For your mind you have talked sense o but alas you haven't. If you think I m lying about the chiefs sucking blood then you need to ask yourself what the fate of the oro's victims is. When people are caught by your oro's people, are they not killed and their blood spilled for some ritual purposes? Is there not a saying that a woman who sees oro does not live? In the modern era, do you believe that a religion or tradition ought to have such power to arrest and murder people in extra-judicial manner for daring to exercise what our constitution recognises as a fundamental right - the right of freedom?
You see I am a christian and my religion is opposed to murder of innocent people for some senseless ritualistic purpose. My religion advocates freedom, liberty and peaceful mutual coexistence of all men and woman, and it is upon these tenets democracy is founded. We live in the 21st century and if we have embraced all the good that came with civilisation to the extent that even the modern Oni died in a St. Mary's hospital in London,why then should we refused to let go of some senseless and negative part of our culture remembering that culture ought to be dynamic? If you are one the slave of an archaic and barbaric religion of our forefathers, I implore you to join me in my beautiful religion of peace. Come taste and see that the Lord is good.

You are just a moronic liar. . You have proof that anybody's blood is spilled? Lying for Jesus
This is what u are taught in church
If you simply obey the law and sstay indoors you have nothing to worry about but if you feel you are strong pls go out during the curfew and wait for whatever happens to you (best way to find out what happens to offenders)

There's no such thing as right of freedom in our constitution
No! Ur religion isn't opposed to killing innocent people. ..if you know anything about ur bible u will see the killings done against the innocent in the name of ur stuupid doG
It's ur bible that said you should not be evenly yoked with unbelievers. ..is that tolerance? Mutual coexistence?

One cannot be a slave to his ancestors because one is his ancestors...they live in you as you lived in them
But here its clear you are a slave to the jews and Europeans

Acidosis:
lmao

I have no biz with fetish traditions. Call me a common bastard, it adds/removes nothing from my life.

I won't mix religion with barbaric practices. How can you worship/bow to an idol call ORO who takes delight in punishing people particularly the women, and still go to church to sing to another God (who hates idolatry)? I am not as s t upid as your people.

DO you even know what "fetish" means? FYI ur religion is even more fetish
Oro is not an idol. .. and preventing women is actually for their own good.
Traditions are made to protect the interest of its people
I wouldn't go deep because u are not bright and not ready for knowledge but heed to the warnings and respect the law

Those of them who go to Church are silly no doubt

missbehave247:
sign of end time

Nonsense. You should learn about the romans who watched porn live on set as earlier as 300BC
Yet world never end

This is why we advocate for young people to know themselves before marriage and be tolerant of each other

Divorce is never a good thing. .think of your children

Gordzwheel:
I see a culture not pleasing in God's sight. Repent and be saved.

Any such God cannot be the God of the Yorubas(Olodumare)

and such god has no business with our culture

Nicepoker:
After the festival and sacrifice I still don't get it why osun state is the most backwardest state in the country. The rascal will pump cash into this and fail to do what is necessary for his people.

You lack sense.