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TheBlue5:
"They spoke about how they came to Igala"


The Igala Kingdom, also known as the Kingdom of Idah, was a pre-colonial West African state of what is now Nigeria. The kingdom was founded by the Igala, a people living north of the Igbo, with its capital at Idah. It was heavily influenced by the Yoruba, Bini and Jukun kingdoms.-Wikipedia

So your telling me that your Ancestors who lived in Nigeria were talking about how they came from Nigeria?Igala is just basically in the same place as Modern Nigeria.

You do realize Nigeria is new state of different old nations, the Igala nation is over a thousand years old

there's nothing odd about Igbo having their origin in a land that is in modern Nigeria
Nigeria is after all just a geographical area with a government

mimijj:
Lol, kind of agree with you just like not all yorubas are among the lost tribe of Isreal. I saw this interesting information online but you will have to understand the King David's codes to connect your own origin of the lost tribe of Isreal, its states the names of the lost tribes you can check yours there at www.noahklub..com

You call this codes?

Here's what you have from ur website

Otherwise recorded in the
Bible, with the variations
'Juda', 'Judea' and 'Judaea';
the following names are
unraveled as variants of
the name 'Judah', upon
the application of the King
David's codes including:
'Dele', 'Adele', 'Taju/Tajo',
'Idogo', 'Odua/Oodua/
Odu'a/Oodu'a/Odudua/
O'dua', 'Hadj/Hadji/
Hadjee', 'Itele', 'Adejo',
'Idejo', 'Odejo', 'Adige',
'Dayo/Adedayo/Odudayo/
Odedayo', 'Tolu/Adetolu/
Odetolu/Odutolu', 'Tola/
Adetola/Odetola/Odutola',
'Toju/Adetoju/Odetoju/
Odutoju', 'Tayo/Adetayo/
Odutayo/Odetayo', 'Deji/
Adedeji/Odedeji/Odudeji',
'Dola/Adedola/Odedola/
Odudola', 'Dejo/Adedejo/
Odedejo/Odudejo', 'Diya/
Adediya/Odediya/
Odudiya', 'Doja/Adedoja/
Odedoja/Odudoja', 'Teju/
Adeteju/Odeteju/Oduteju',
'Diji/Adediji/Odediji/
Odudiji', 'Teye/Adeteye/
Odeteye/Oduteye', 'Toye/
Adetoye/Odetoye/
Odutoye', 'Judge', 'Ladoja',
'Adio', 'Idimu', 'Jatau',
'Joda', 'Ladoga', 'Duma',
'Idaho', 'Utah', 'Togo',
'Lodge', 'Hodge', 'Jida/
Jedda/Jeddah', 'Udeh',
'Odeh', 'Odia', 'Atah/Attah',
'Udoh', 'Utoh', 'Udu', 'Idah',
'Ideye', 'Odiye', 'Odili',
'Audio', 'Idaya', etc.

How do u feel comfortable with this gross fallacy?
you just pick random Yoruba(and others) names and call them variants of Judah
You didn't even bother to explain how u decode ur "code" and come about such names as variants of Judah

FOLYKAZE:
This is philosophical theology. It is process of adopting philosophical methods for the purpose of giving answer to religious belief and doctrine.

Much of that I know
Theology also uses Philosophical method
Otherwise we would just call it religion

Vickybee:
When the featherbrained lady you posted her jargons get the meaning of feminism, you can mention me for an intelligent conversation.

I'm not fighting for any equal rights because i'm equal with anybody both male and female all-together. No one can trample and ride on my ego because i'm a female. Dude, the world is fast evolving!

Feminism is fighting on how to change men view about us, eh.
-Empowering women to work hard.
-Making women to stop depending on guys financially. Work to make your own money and spare their insults.
-Changing our female archaic view e.g how can a man whistle at you and you answer him?. Are you a dog?
-Stopping women from objectifying themselves etc

Y'all need to get an education. I'm tired of ignorance of Nigerian men.

here u are playing the victim..
Are men complaining about financially supporting their women?
But it's all good, as long as there's gender equality in the society and the woman still knows how to get into the kitchen

londongal03:
God bless ma president! YORUBAS ARE VERY WICKED... Who is fooling who!
''Obasanjo a (YORUBA MAN) and Atiku in 8yrs built one
UNIVERSITY each for themselves. - Bells and
ABTI.... Jonathan and Sambo in 4yrs built 14
universities for all Nigerians.''Yet he was voted out.
PLEASE NOTE: OBJ and ATIKU are now
consultants/members for/of APC.... Seeking
CHANGE!!!

I'll like to see Buhari fight,Obasanjo and Tinubu..since he claims to be a corruption fighter

omenka:
Abegi. Stop talking already. It is not like we don't remember all you did to hurt our democracy especially the HoR saga.

May unnecessary hate not kill you

GEJ!!!

[quote author=hernia post=32372429][/quote]Your undeniable experience cannot be examined, what ever experience you had can only be examined by you..it's personal
And I am very sure this "experience" came after faith

Like I always say, Experience before faith, not delusion after faith

so don't come telling us about ur experience that probably never happened, or a mind trick. tell us why any intelligent person should take christianity serious considering the many irregularities

FOLYKAZE:
I dont think so

I've had this discussion with someone once but how is theology not philosophy
What of Jesuism that is studied within philosophy?

hernia:
The forgiveness of sins and reconciliation with God.
The physical part of the whole salvation scheme was for two main reasons which need to be deeply discussed for maximum appreciation, but to state them briefly, :

1.To create the awareness of the grave implications of sin .(I believe and its worthy to consider that God can do all things including the absolute forgiveness of sins without he death of Jesus but man would have taken salvation for granted.)

2.To evangelize to souls in hell who couldnt hear the word before their death.

Due to time constraints I cant delve further, are u a Christian or an atheist.

1. Most people still take ur salvation tale for granted...so there you fail

2. Lmao repentance after death
what happened to "after death comes judgement"? Again u fail

FOLYKAZE:
Philosophical or theological branch?

Isn't theology a branch of philosophy?

FOLYKAZE:
How about Ifa-ist?

That's a sub division of Pantheistic animism

hernia:
Macof what is your belief, are u an atheist?Why then do u ask these questions?Go through my response and follow my trail of thought, u just might find some answers.

My belief is simple...it's tagged pantheism
Check it out
Am a Yoruba pantheist, so were my ancestors

TheBlue5:
No, did not survive until 1,000 AD here's is the Igbo King lineage

Eri
Agulu
Engugu
1087-1036 BC Eze Anyiamigbo Ezeora I
1033-958 BC Eze Agwuve Ezeora II
955-895 BC Eze Ojemba Ezeora III
475-388 BC Eze Nochiugo Ezeora IV
387-247 BC Eze Onyeagwanam Ezeora V
242-131 BC Eze Nkwukwu Ezeora VI
130-43 BC Eze Honwagwu Ezeora VII
40 BC-48 AD Eze Aghaegbulem Ezeora VIII
50-144 AD Eze Akadigbo Ezeora IX
147-238 AD Eze Okwuatu-Egwu Ezeora X
239-309 AD Eze Ugam Ezeora XI
315-394 AD Eze Gbujie Ezeora XII
398-452 AD Eze Ilora Ezeora XIII
495-553 AD Eze Dibie Olome Ezeora XIV
555-655 AD Eze Gbukamadu Ezeora XV
657-733 AD Eze Echiebuke Ezeora XVI
737-827 AD Eze Onamadianyi Ezeora XVII
831-913 AD Eze Nwaukpala Ezeora XVIII
916-1001 AD Eze Kwutulumuj Ezeora XIX
1007-1095 AD Eze Idumba Ofomeke Ezeora XX
1100-1176 AD Eze Adidiesi Ezeora XXI
1177-1240 AD Eze Nwaesi Idu Ezeora XXII
1246-1310 AD Eze Obanaidu Ezeora XXIII
1313-1367 AD Eze Chinweze Ezeora XXIV
1370-1446 AD Eze Nwaokpalaora Ezeora XXV
1448-1530 AD Eze Ezem Ezeora XXVI
1534-1608 AD Eze Ezechi Ezeora XXVII
1613-1684 AD Eze Ezemailo Ezeora XXVIII
1691-1752 AD Eze Erimeli Ezeora XXIX
1760-1820 AD Eze Ogodougbo Ezeora Bleep
1826-1860 AD Eze Mabam Ezeora XXXI
1866-1910 AD Eze Ekwo/Eze Chizor Ezeora XXXII
1958-1968 AD Eze Chiezie Ejorh Ezeora XXXIII
1976 AD-Present Eze A.E. Chukwuemeka-Eri Ezeora XXXIIV

Notice how it starts with a random guy named 'Eri' you guys were here before Jesus according to the King lineage

Just 34 Ezes in over 3000years, btw what's ur source for this list?

johnw74:
I'm posting to you, not us (fellow non believers).
Why ask me about scriptures to begin with?
Just make a post saying scriptures are absurd, and I wouldn't have wasted my time replying to you.

You didn't make me see how the Christian faith isn't full of absurdity rather you accepted it and claimed we shouldn't be ashamed of it...so what's this about again?

starlingleanets:
Understanding the length and breadth the height and depth of the mystery of God

Is God a topic in geometry?

moderatorr1:
which still means he was alone.
It was written on a clay slate. which means anyone could have written it.

Moses used those people
Deceived them tight

The Guy went up and constructed the commandments himself for 40days

shyna01:
y aren't you trying to find fault with the part the presence of the lord came down or the Egyptian first born dying? what will moses gain from forging commandments?

He would gain respect, power, wealth, control over the people
Like pastors have over their congregation with their lies

cKaiser:
This is the man they said wants to islamize Nigeria

Someone who didn't islamized his own family. Another PDP lie blown away

Sai Buhari

The man made statements suggesting that
He used to be shari'a activist...he just realized it cannot work

An2elect2:
There are no sects in Christianity. All Christians are one by virtue of the single spirit of Christ in us. Others are tares that would be removed out and burned at the end. It is because of them that we seem divided but we are not.

Really? This girl is certainly On her own sect

An2elect2:
what a waste. bye.

Ok my post was a waste but that was so your life won't be a waste

Why not let's start of by you telling how you find truths in a compilation of books that have no verified authors...Romans could have written them

danny3r:
My dad is British and my mom is Nigerian. I was born in Nigeria and I have dual-citizenship. What will be my nationality? British or Nigerian?

You are what ever you want to be..simple
Nationality is a sense of home

Rubbish list. Awori and Yagba are Yoruba
Many sub groups are being separate from the larger ethnic group in that list

MrPresident1:
There are ancient hebrews living among aboriginal Igbos, this is also the same with the Yoruba people. Millenia of intermixing has blurred the lines, also the dichotomy is no longer relevant as Christ has died for all, and everyone can now approach God through Him. Every one who is Christ's should expect a beautiful reward from God when Christ appears irrespective of whether one is lineage, or one is grafted.

You are very stuupid to add Yoruba people into your madness.
Shameless dogs like you should be packaged and sent to Israel to fight for his father land..as that is what you believe by faith

Same Eri that lived 3000BC survived till 1000AD
Na wa o

starlingleanets:
I rest my case since you don't hv spiritual insight

Ok and you have? Lemme guess to u spiritual insight is seeing angels with wings wearing white, a beaded man sitting on a golden chair, a golden gate, the ground made of clouds and many more fables

johnydon22:
macof the gospel of luke have its source from mark too...

True but Mark wasn't written by the person who died 3 years earlier
Luke remains the only one with it's true author, regardless the copy..obviously Luke had to copy from preexisting text, he didn't know a thing about christianity on his own

An2elect2:
we are all born pagans? not really. We are all born sinners subject to the law of God by nature. We are not free beings who can choose to disassociate ourselves without repercussions owing to the fact that we were made for God and are accountable to Him.

bleep your sinners trash, nobody is born a sinner, you sin when you sin not at birth
Since when did living become a sin

Now,there is something wrong with anyone that takes pride in heathenism/ barbarism, which are abominations before God.

call it heathenism or barbarism, you were born a pagan. Check my signature for reference, and you would probably need to visit wikipedia for a few reading on paganism

you are blabbing. Who were they early men that God used to write His gospel? were they from Rome? Didn't they write the books before the blood sucking cult layed hold of them? when did catholicism start?

well my dear miss, if you know just a little...just small about Christian history both in the Bible and other sources around the middle east and Europe, you would know of emperor constantine and the council of Nicaea

Out of the 4 gospels only Luke is likely to be authentic, Matthew, Mark and John are copies written by Unknown authors

Luke was an historian who never knew Jesus or the disciples, a man who wrote all his books - Acts and Luke based on hearsay, 50 years after Jesus's death
Not by eyewitness or personal knowledge and certainly not by any holy spirit juice

Gospel of Mark is written 70AD, when Apostle Mark died 3 years earlier
Gospel of Matthew is copied from Mark
The Romans had all this books in their possessions and modified Mark, the 1st and oldest gospel written by an Unknown person
There are gospel of Peter, gospel of judas, gospel of Mary Magdalen...my personal favourite is gospel of Thomas written by gnostic Christians who claimed Mary Magdalen was their leader
Almost 50 gospels exist, yet only 4 were added into the Bible. Guess who decided which made it into the Bible? Almighty Catholic church

Try watching YouTube videos on Christian history and read more on Catholism and evolution of the Christian faith

have you ever read the bible? or you criticise it based on hearsay?
go and find out and take along you these research questions.

lol I should be asking you that question
read the old testament and new, to find out how much changed due to catholic influence

You don't sound reasonable at all. Does He(Christ) need a system of carnal men to call him God before He becomes God? Does God need to be called King before He becomes king.

Ok so Jesus is better off a God without worshipers

Do you know the gospel is the power of God to save a soul. It is not something to joke with or let men modify at their own volition. It is God breathed and does not need modifying or addition or subtraction.

guess what Constantine didn't care about ur God, he modified the old gospels and left many others out of the Bible

We don't know the true beliefs of Christians before 320AD because the newly empowered bishops ordered the death of heretics, destroyed all earlier Christian records and told the story of Jesus the way they wanted

Am a christian and i do not belong to any denomination and am no gnostic. Thanks.

lol you don't go to church simple

zyzxx:
bro
He surfer for our sin
He is sinless

How did he suffer for ur sin? What's the formula for such equation?
The man died for going against the laws and u call him sinless? A criminal?

hernia:
The above is my comment,sorry i couldn't separate them.

Pls construct your comment the appropriate way, I can't even identify which is which

Victoriousvic:
Oga, I'm just stating the way I felt after watching the movie.

I'm really not a fan of violent movies or documentaries, so I doubt I'll want to watch that.

I understand but don't act like people haven't seen worse

A good question from simplex2

simplex2:
And what has changed after the supposed death?

Sin still abound, death still abound!

The bible said sin entered the earth through 1 man (Adam) and that life entered through another (Jesus). So why are people still dying? Why are people still believed to go to hell if they die in sin? If Jesus had not died, (according to your bible), sinners will still go to hell and righteous people still go to heaven: so what difference did the death make?

An2elect2:
catholicism is a product of sham and pagan practices.
It has a cold history of slaying Christians/people who refused bowing to its harlotry. It has no connection to Christianity or the Christ of the bible.

We who are called Christians are called so because of Christ in us and not our association to some institutionalised poo.

And I am pagan, so what's wrong with paganism..after all we are all born pagan


Yet Catholism made your Christ a God, compiled the gospel and modified what it had to

Are you gnostic? Cus Christian gnosticism is the only uninstitutionalised form of christianity
If you are not then you are making no sense