₦airaland Forum

suwailad:
what i know is this, Jonathan must be prosecuted, if not this year but down the line. All the record books will be open and we will really see how much Jonathan stole from Nigeria.

Tinubu stole, obasanjo stole more
Jst because he lost election, he should go to jail clowns
pls tell us what Law court would prosecute a man for losing an election?

When Buhari shamelessly lost in 2007 and in 2011 to GEJ he cried wolf
GEJ is more mature to realize and identify a defeat, go back home to rest with his family and probably come back strong like Ajaka was deposed for being weak

If Buhari had lost the so called dogs and baboons would be dead by now

Chanchit:
I really think we should all vote APC cos of their new federal status, turning Lagos to an opposition state would make less sense at this stage.
The result of the last election can't be used as a yard stick, cos many people that voted for APC during presidential election are warming up to vote for PDP, so some drastic measure has to be taken.


I trust Jagaban of Lagos sha. He would pull the trigger.

Lagos is better off in new hands...there is big marginalisation on centralisation in Lagos. We need development to spread across the state, PDP has the experience, losing the Federal sit would make them give their all to Lagos - a mini Nigeria

And talking of the candidate..honestly we know JK, we trust JK
We need Tinubu's corruption cases to be exposed, those which Fasola denies
Let's satisfy our doubts on Tinubu cause only a PDP run government can end Authoritarianism in Lagos

PastorOluT:
Smile, but rather what do u know better that makes u believe in incarnation?
*Modified*

To oblige u sir, the bible says it is appointed to man to die once and after this the judgment Hebrews 9:27. So if we only die once, then we only live once. Smile

Sure you die once, or have you seen someone who dies twice?
You totally miss the point of reincarnation, it's not having multiple deaths in one life but a continuum of experiences by the soul

PastorOluT:
Says who, and for what purpose?

Purpose of universal continuum

aadoiza:
They've been pushing the stupid and contrived idea of reincarnation for a while; some shallow thinkers believe easily more in this crap than in God. Na wa o.

twosquare:
Same here....i am drawn more to the ancient than the present but reincarnation of soul is out of it....i have countless de ja vus.....i only believe God is wanting to pass a message across

I see your problem is that your Bible never referenced reincarnation
But sorry to let you know, No one book serves ultimate knowledge

mooremedia:
Same here.
Most of these are just natural spiritual experience and not necessarily signs of incarnation

Wats the difference? Reincarnation is a spiritual phenomenon

chucky234:
It means our souls are recycling

Exactly. the universe is so beautiful, I love how nothing is ever really destroyed but only gets recycled

PastorOluT:
I experienced/experiencing most of what u put up there, but if I didn't know better I would have become a believer in incarnation. Smile

What is this that you know better?

at least now the dog and the baboon won't be soaked in blood
if Buhari had lost, hundreds would be dead by now

Anyway, It's all good

highmood:
Exactly. He banked completely on the north and they turned out to betray him notwithstanding all he did for them. Simply stated, the result from the north shows evidence of betrayal. The southwest would have come to the rescue since he is sure the southeast and south south would give him votes, but he rather approached them late when the change slogan has taken over them else the division of votes.

2. Good luck fail to take the activities of professor Jega into consideration. He so trusted him that he overlooked every thing he does and even the advice people gave to him about Jega been compromised. Even when it was clear that there were underage voters registration, when the south complained about delay and missing PVC, he never responded decisive.

3. The visit of Buhari to UK may have changed things. I think the UK may have reminded the northern governors and elites of the slogan "Born to Rule" else they decided to support Buhari.

4. Religion cannot be underestimated. The north are not all that tribalistic but thier religion can change thier psyche instantly.

5. Finally the nature of the economy especially the issue of power which people has been yearning for cannot be addressed. When Prof. Nnaji did the magic in the power sector, people commended him and if it were to be during an election, Goodluck would have won. But unfortunately, he let the intelligent Prof to go and kept getting poor advice and information from some people working with him.

6. And, Goodluck knew those corrupt people, yet he never acted. Jagaban is one of those who is accumulating ill gotten wealth, Rather than Goodluck use the EFCC as his bull dog to keep chasing him not to even flaunt the wealth. He chained the EFCC somewhere and allowed Jagaban to use his wealth to sponsor buhari. Now Jagaban is untouchable except if Buhari turns against him and use him as a scape goat .

Exactly! GEJ made the biggest mistake of his life by giving the North all he had..not even his Niger delta enjoyed that much love yet he was betrayed because blood is thicker than water, it's madness for him to have marginalised Yorubas..yet many of us still showed him love in this elections

I'll like to see Buhari deal with jagaban

Let's not fight it. Change is here

I just hope it's good change..cus Buhari can be good or bad change

All I need is constant power supply..I don't care about Buhari's other promises like free education and free meal

Power is what we want

This is a good president right there. I don't trust Buhari and the Apc, and I believe they will fail come 2019 but trust APC to cry wolf like they've always done

meanwhile we still have to come out to vote APC out of Lagos,
#change

jingh:
Good luck
next time you hold a post, take note of this

1) try and take decision on your own sometime
2 don't be a pawn in the hand of bad people
3) trust women but don't trust us completely
4) hide your weakness from people
5) don't protect bad people
6) don't depend on luck but Change
7) remember tomorrow
don't relegate a tribe

Seriously though Jona isn't a politician but how political is Buhari Are bad people not surrounding him? Isn't he going to relegate Igbos/Ijaws

Father of corruption asking for Buhari to fight his business
Shameless old man...he is the fault of PDP's loss, with all the wahala he left for Yar'adua and Jonathan

KenJak:
Seriously, Jonathan's regime is moreorless a military regime. Anyway, Jonathan should start saying GOODBYE to Aso Rock...

Miliary regime Abeg how old are u? Even if u young...can't you ask older folks how different this is from Buhari's tyranny and pure evil

solreb:
I do not belong to a party too. I am a concerned citizen that wants a free and fair election. No free and fair election happened in Rivers state. It was simply a rape on democracy. PDP already protested in these 2 states and other 5 just to act as diversions from the rape of democracy they have committed in SS and SE. I am an APC supporter but we need to be careful based on
what PDP's rigging machinery in SS and SE. They have delayed results in SS and SE
so that they could know the results in North especially NE and NW. The trend in other states apart from SS and SE is for about 50% of the those that collected PVC to vote. For instance in Kano APC got 1.92 m out of 4.2 m PVC collected (less than
50%) while PDP posted 1.48m in Rivers state (70% of PVC collected). 421000 in
Bayelsa (80% of PVC collected). PDP got 368k in Abia, APC 13394, Anambra
PDP got 660762, APC 17026. PDP got 953k in A/Ibom (70% of PVC collected), PDP got 513,604 in Imo state, APC 76,911. Delta and Ebonyi
are delayed for manipulation and will follow similar pattern. They are trying to falsify result in Bauchi where GOv has declared curfew and also in Taraba. At the end of the day GEJ will get more total votes that GMB. PDP and GEJ just want to cause trouble in the country
the country.

Of course apc shameless losers would never accept the results unless you win. did you expect to see anything in rivers state? Or u let Amaechi deceive you?

Apc are just sore losers. PDP didn't complain of Kano, katsina and kaduna results knowing that the fulani control those states now a Niger deltan win for Jonathan is a problem for them

Shameless party

absoluteSuccess:
Never mind, I have just stated my believes and findings. You can't have early facts in their pristin forms, just comparative studies where facts connects. I wouldn't mind if you can share the Ogunda-meji account with timeline. I believe that 'Oduduwa chain descent' is not true too.

Surely you can tell us these "findings" that make you believe Yoruba are descended from faraway Hebrews not even any African people.
I don't know the Ogunda account...I only know bits from here and there because no Babalawo would just sit down and begin to teach you odu.
Oduduwa chain descent is very true in Yoruba...this is however a symbolism not an historical event. Some say he came via a boat, others say from the boat, he used the chain as an anchor. we can settle for the 3rd
Note that this isn't related to oduduwa the king, but one of the oldest Irunmole known to our ancestors

absoluteSuccess:
The ancient Yoruba descended from ancient Hebrew. That's why you have similarities in Yoruba and ancient Hebrew culture. I am surprise to learn that Obatala also came with flying chain. It used to be 'Oduduwa stunt'.

I'll be glad if you can state 10 of such similar culture, such that exists only between Yoruba and Hebrews
also you would tell us why Yoruba had to come from Hebrews and not Hebrews coming from Yoruba

There's nothing like flying chain or oduduwa stunt. Was that meant as a joke?...most of this creation story u find on the internet are majorly twisted due to ignorance...try speaking with a competent Babalawo for genuine bits from Ogunda Meji's account of creation he is willing to let out

no2fuks:
rev 9.1 " The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I
saw a star that had fallen from the sky to
the earth. The star was given the key to the
shaft of the Abyss."
how is that possible when stars are bigger than earth

Bible also claims stars didn't exist before the third day of creation, meaning the earth appeared first

Greyworld:
Talkin abt yur signature, who is d creator?



How eva I still wonder why God regretted creatn man (Gen.6:6) wen he alredy knows dat man wud disobey him.

I stll believe in GOD tho.

Questions the claim that this God has the ability known as omniscience

khiaa:
You should go against slavery of any kind.

Sure cus in today's world it is immoral but not back in the days

Depends on who the person is to you and how much you wish to respect him/her

Surely if he deserves it a true Yoruba would greet appropriately

khiaa:
Yeah, but slavery wasn't the same as slavery in America *chattel slavery* where the African slaves in America were dehumanized and legally written to be half human and half beast. They were seen as beast of burden, no different than a horse, mule, or donkey and lack of human emotions. They were stripped of EVERYTHING, language, culture, their sir names and first named, marriage, naming their own children, their families because they were torn apart at the will of old Charlie. They were butchered, some were kept in chains for 24 hrs. a day.
American slavery was the worst slavery in history. Read about it so that next time you want to make comparisons to others, you will know the difference.

This is where I completely go against black slavery because blacks had to deal with a lot of suffering.

khiaa:
But they knew they were being sent across the Atlantic to never return to their home.

Yes but my point is most Africans didn't know of the treatment

slaves in Africa were treated as members of the household

Haywhymido:
is opinion, u can go n hang urself if u dont lyk it.

Why would I hang myself because of a slowpoke who worships a man as his Irunmole

Greyworld:
Talkin abt yur signature, who is d creator?

The creator is that which all things sprang from

I remember some of the things that made me reject the doctrines of christianity and how "acclaimed" educated pastors peached this so calmly and confidently as if it were a reflection of the natural world around us

1. God is omniscient, he knows all before it even happens..yet created an Adam with the knowledge of his future sin and subsequent calamity for humanity
Either this God is really not omniscient or he just likes causing trouble and blame it on his creations

2. God created Satan, how possible is it that an all power overlord of the universe finds a mere musical cherub to be threat to his supremacy? Is God not strong enough to deal with satan, whom he created? Is this God losing his power? Or he just likes playing the victim and using satan to catch some fun and create some hero-villain story out of it all to remain relevant to his believers?

3. How much have we studied the Bible to verify the things we hear from our pastors and the public belief of Christians since the first council of Nicaea
It's one thing that humans wrote the Bible, it's another thing that humans interpret it
Also consider the factor of error in translations as the Bible wasn't first written in English...Infact English language didn't exist then

4. We learn that Jesus payed the ultimate price for all mankind by dying for our sins. Can we really say he payed anything worth the price? This man died for only 3 days
That's not a full payment if you ask me
Because back in the old testament, God instructed household Animals to be killed to serve as payment for sin...these animals never resurrected and it signified "full payment"

5. The issue of sin in christianity is one that attracts spiritual punishment, even though we commit this sin physically....why should Jesus pay a physical price? Why didn't he die spiritually so we can be completely saved spiritually?

6. Why did God choose a particular people? He created us all didn't he? Why was he always particular about the Jews? I am Yoruba, I didn't read anything about my ancestral fathers in the Bible, just Jews and those they came in contact with. The Bible rules are typical Jewish traditions and christianity is reformed version of that by Europeans
Why didn't God pick all people? Why only one people? Isn't this partiality...of course it is
Same way God openly rejected Esau before his birth and favoured a lying Jacob

7. Why are there so much violence and diseases? Why does a peaceful, loving God allow such? Is he incapable of addressing the issue? then he is the complete representation of clueless and incompetent
Is he capable but unwilling? Then he is evil and lies that he is loving and kind

8. If death was caused by Adam's sin and the same Adam at his creation was tasked with the responsibility to reproduce and multiply...all these millennias the population would have been about 1 trillion and over
the earth is such a limited space, imagine the way we fight for land in today's world, how would it have been if Adam never sinned and humans never had to die

The little space you get in a crowed Aswani market would be the largest you would find

9. How would judgement day be? The trillions of people who have lived and died all being judged in God's court? Just imagine the scene and how long it would take before it gets to us in the 21st century
Would we see our Great x5 grand fathers and enjoy a conversation?
What about those going to hell because they didn't know Jesus or believe the Christians? Imagine currently we have billions of non Christians, some millions of Christians would also fail to make heaven plus the dead who didn't get the goodnews of Christ when alive...surely close to a trillion would make their way to hell and heaven would be so empty with less than a billion people
What kind of God allows this?

10. why does the Bible contradict itself so much?
A book of unarguable knowledge and truth shouldn't have contradictions but absolute conformity

this addresses only the Christian faith and no other

That's how it happens in the North..lack of protocol

januzaj:
sai BABA
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jagaban
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irumole
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landlord
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SAI BUHARI TILL BANCE MARRIES PRIYANKA CHOPRA

So Buhari is now ur Irunmole. smh
This folks have lost their senses