₦airaland Forum

tpiah01:
Iyawo is bride or new wife while the term Aya generally implies a woman who is not newly married.

The "new Iyawo" period generally only lasts until the "Iyawo" has children, after which she gets a more "secured" position and in the olden days, her old spot of "Iyawo" ie novice, gets occupied by the new wife in a polygamous household.

being a "novice Iyawo", btw, was not an enviable position because you do all the major labour in the household immediately the honeymoon is over and your husband starts scouting for another wife while you try to get pregnant. Sort of glorified slave/servant.


All these are generally speaking, could have different contexts.

Your logic is nt so bad but the Op's story is exactly how the word "Iyawo" came to be

Masterclass32:
How could everything in existence not have a begining?

not everything in existence or anything in particular but the Universe...it's better to put it as "The universe has no beginning", at least based on available evidence

Emusan:
I know energy is your God nah

Do you even know what I consider as a God

Emusan:
Please where did I say the bolded part?

What you miss about explanation of creationist is that, according to creationist "THE UNIVERSE comprises of MATTERS and ENERGY which originated from God/the product of creation but God was never a PRODUCT of matter and energy that's why God is ETERNAL.

If God's nature contains matter and energy which are the product of creation then we can ask WHO CREATED GOD?

The word "TO CREATE" find its use when God began the formation of the universe.

God didn't create Himself rather He brought the word "TO CREATE" into use, that is God begins EVERYTHING we see in the universe at a particular PERIOD.

Can't u jst shut up and stop exposing your idiocy?

Energy originated from God?

Another one from the evil religion called christianity

Bullshiit Op, Yoruba has over 25million native speakers...and is definitely more spoken across West Africa and around the world than Igbo

Sow a seed until you sow your life to Oyedepo the No.1 criminal pastor

Eseries:
Yes they did!
especially the igbo area around Calabar/Akwa Ibom
Ever heard of Mary Slessor?

What is known is Mary Slessor in Calabar nt Igbo areas around calabar

Radoillo:
You seem genuinely interested in understanding 'Osu'. I'll tell you what I know, based on what elderly folks told me. (Like I said the Osu system has completely disappeared from the area of Igboland I hail from).

First of all, this thing about Osu being used as blood sacrifice is pure nonsense. An Osu belonged to the gods and it was an abomination to shed Osu blood. In fact, in some places, Osu had the reputation of troublemakers, despoiling peoples' farm and such because they knew no one would dare touch them.

It is equally not true that 'discrimination' against osu began with Christianity. To understand the so-called discrimination, one has to understand how an Osu is made. An Osu was a slave owned by a god. As a property of the gods, Osu did hold a powerful place in religious and ritual matters. As a slave however, he couldn't have the same rights that freeborn had. He couldn't marry a freeborn, he couldn't participate in political life like the freeborn, and he couldn't take titles.

Think of Osu as a eunuch in an oriental royal household. He could become very powerful, but still had an inferior status as a slave and an emasculated man.

Sure I am always interested in matters concerning culture and tradition of Southern Nigerians especially

Thank you for the information

gmacnoms:
@ macof , u r headed for seriuos distruction. God thru Jesus is a merciful God, he's not in d ground, he's risen to give life. And dat like, so many pple are findin grace and mercu thru him. Its d name above every name. For ur own gud edit ur post of insult 2waards jesus. And find a way to get to d master for salvation. In him u'l find perfect peace and rest. Don't let his wrath cum upon u for ur statements

Pls re read my last post and digest it properly...or u nid me to repost it?

ElekeNtioba:
You dont get it. Theres nothing remotely good about osu caste system. It was a traditional practise that turned into an obnoxious discriminatory system. Christianity merely opened people's eyes. Persons of various faiths in igbo land have condemned practises like d osu system not just the churches.

Christiniaty has helped Igbos get rid of many traditional practises that are incompatible with modern values. Practises like d caste system, killing of twins, etc

As for christianity not to be trusted, all i can say is dat christianity should not be judged by the actions of christians especially when some of their actions are contrary to the message of Christ. While the message of Christ is divine, His followers are not; they are human after all.

I am nt talking about actions of Christians but the whole story of christianity from inception till date, there has been more lies and manipulative tactics
...anyway that's nt the issue here

Fact is Osu is a tradition Igbo system, like against many other traditions in today's African, christianity and Islam has brought hatred and resentment but above all misinformation about traditions.

In what Igbo Towns were killing of twins ever practised? wat are ur sources?? Because maybe contrary to what you learnt from school and church, Killing of twins is only known in the Efik city of Calabar.

sonnie10:
When people hear sacrifices, they think about killing and slaughtering. Osu were never killed, they were only given to the gods as living sacrifices. As a matter of fact, it was an abomination to shed the blood of an Osu

you are right, Sacrifice comes in various forms. Even I misinterpreted the whole sacrifice idea

PastorKun:
Going back to the creation "theory" it makes sense that the creator is outside our space, time and material world to have been able to create it, that enhances the multiverse Concept. God is outside our space, time and physical universe thus is is not subject to the physical science rules that we know.

outside the material world doesn't necessarily mean outside the universe...

maxiipriestt:
literarymathy, you have your story all stolen from my people the itsekiri. i'm itsekiri from koko and firstly, warri is not indigenously your town. the name "warri" is a corrupted form of a word in itsekiri "IWERE", meaning it's the way it is, translated literarily. you called other towns like sapele and a couple others and claim them for the urhobos, but incidentally, history tells us that sapele is an itsekiri town which was a hub for economic activity with the early itsekiri traders who traded with the west and who employed urhobo workers as slaves. and sapele was given up as a bargaining chip by Nanna Olomu to make peace with a warlord because of a breach in terms of agreement for a certain battle price. the soup which you made mention of "owo" is an itsekiri soup and owo is actually a borrowed word from us mister... i can pick out a myriad of false claims which i won't acquiesce to. warri is the ancestral home of the itsekiri people and we only conceded territory to your people because you have a healthy population there due to your high rate of proliferation, and your persistent clamouring for a stake in the city. well, i can understand where you are coming from because the urhobos and ijaw people have been slaves to us for too long and are out against us trying to carry out a vendetta, but it's not really the answer to anything. and you didn't mention the native attire which i saw in your pictures showing you wearing our "kemeje", would you say that that is indigenously yours too? and to stake more leverage on what i've said so far, we are a singular tribe without mixed dialects, probably the only tribe in nigeria which speak a singular dialect and who have just one singular king and not multiple kings. we have chiefs who report to our king, the Olu of Warri. so there are a lot of flaws and false claims about your heritage which i vehemently dispute. also, we have had a long running history with the benin people and our monarchs are intertwined with each other and we've both been the main custodians of the southern region of nigeria from the days when our history was been written. it's really not fair making erroneous remarks and statements because people who don't know the truth would be misled and made to think that this you've put up there is the case, whereas it's not. so please kindly do yourself a favour and get to know your history and people and don't get it mixed up.

All these talk about slaves...where's the record?
And every tribe speaks one dialect, that's what makes them a tribe.
So it's nt peculiar to Itsekiri

pDude:
Osu indeed.

African people and their crappy traditional practices. That is why every other country has advanced and left us in the dust.

Mtscheww

That is no fault of tradition but disunity, lack of education and priorities, all mostly due to foreign religion

ElekeNtioba:
enough with the false assertions. D discrimination has been even before d arrival of Christianity.

Infact, christanity helped break the boundary between d "osu' and 'nwadiala'. As pple turned to christianity, the osu caste sytem became obsolete.

Osu caste system was the product of then traditional practises and beliefs of the Igbos. Fortunately, just like the traditional religion of the Igbos, the osu system is almost extinct.

Find some other ethnic group dat hate progress to preach to.

Yet you don't feel the least bit suspicious that it's churches that talk about Osu in this manner.
christianity cannot be trusted, there's too much lies and deceit both in the origins and modern conduct of christianity

Eseries:
Hello everyone!
I want to state categorically clear that osu is hardly an issue in the contemporary Igbo society.
Just think about numerous famous Igbos bearing Nwaosu (decendant/children of Osu) as surname. They are all well received and celebrated in their various communities.
In today's world young ones marry whosoever they want be it oyibo, people from other tribes and nationalities, Osu is hardly one of the issues to be bothered about. There is this girl that bears Nwosu that graduated with first class in my department, You think peradventure it happened we chose to marry anyone can stop me because she is "osu"?
Believe me most people think like me except few old conservative people and their opinion hardly matter.

Just like killing of twins babies, selling people out to slavery and other nefarious practices found in our culture have been phased out.

If there there is a group that embraces change that comes along with civility, Igbo are the one!
no one gives a dammn about if you osu or not, become a success and people will celebrate and associate with you! who do hell even keep track of who is osu or who is their children or let alone children of their children?

Did Igbos ever practice killing of twins where and when?

sonnie10:
When people hear sacrifices, they think about killing and slaughtering. Osu were never killed, they were only given to the gods as living sacrifices. As a matter of fact, it was an abomination to shed the blood of an Osu

Ok. So the idea is sacrificing their lives in service nt blood.
Now I understand better

Beerem:
If the osu are people dedicated to the gods but yet very ill treated, it means the Igbo do not regard their gods.

True. If all these stories about ill treatment of Osu is correct then the Alusi are the ones actually being disrespected

ElekeNtioba:
Osu caste system is a dying if not already-dead culture.

99% of present-day Igbo youths only heard abt it in social studies class. They have never seen an 'osu' person or the discrimination in practise.

Which makes me conclude that this whole Osu thing is unduly taken out of proportion

Elevation:
Macof,your soul is precious just know this if you dont believe in Jesus as the Son of the living God (John 3vs18) and as ur lord and personal saviour, if you dont accept his lordship over your soul your are condemned , you must confess Jesus and renounce your sins you cant be saved (Romans 10:9-10) Macof you dont have to call me mad remember it is written by thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned (Matthew 12vs 37).

Piss and shiit be upon your Jesus, he should shove his fake salvation deep in his burial ground Africans don't need a dead Jew

Truckpusher:
What they told you is akin to dressing up your battered domestic househelp nicely whenever her family pays you a visit that has been announced.

Your source is hiding the truth from you.Did your source also tell you that they are usually sacrificed for whatever reasons they deem necessary?

Yes I did read about the sacrificial part but then some people gladly accepted serving their communities as sacrificial lambs...it's nt jst Igboland or Osu

Elevation:
Ehyaah.......! I Pity your descendants. See once a man is not spiritually minded he is dead although he's physically existing. Romans 8:6 , now pertaining to spiritual husband or wife Read Ephesians 6:1-24 that's if you believe in God, a matured mind can't say trash believe me. Now alot of you relegate the power of darkness to only Africa See how spiritually low you can be ,you think white guys aren't under attacks but you watch Harry Potter n some of their dark movies look at the originals, that movie tells alot because you See them showing you developed entities ur mind is controlled to believe all is well with them I Pity you if you don't begin to work on your salvation and spiritual garment it is such a shame. When they tell you go to a Bible believing church you'll not go ur heart is stony well I've informed you only Christ can transform so submit to His lordship and be faithful. I am innocent of your blood , become genuinely saved or doom awaits you.

This is why christianity is bad for our society, look at this mad man.
I pity your children.

gmacnoms:
I used d lagos/lokoja to try to explain 2u dat dere r spiritual forces with different names. Even in d bible, jesus casted out unclean spirits....read Eph 6:12. Whether gud or bad, der's spirituality to lyf..... Wake up from ur sleep my brother. Lots of thins happen in d spiritual

Oh shut up you slowpoke, you have no idea how silly you are with all this rubbish
I am more spiritual minded than u can imagine but there's a difference between spirituality and superstition.

don't let some lazy ass man deceive u in d guise of being a pastor.
There's no such thing as spiritual wife or husband

tonychristopher:
but are you tryng to tell me that urhobo wont understand isoko if they speak or wont ishan understand benin if they speak.


i want to know

will an urhob or isok man need an interpreter when they meet


same with benin or ishan




i know that in igbo even if you are cross rver, akwa ibom, edo igbo or anambra igbo, you wont need an interpreter to communicate with each other, there might be a bit difficulties but you will understand


so pls brother explain this for me, i want tyo know why the fragmentation of clans there in name of tribe


TO ME ISOKO AND URHOBO SHOULD JUST BE SOBO TRIBE. I DONT SEE MUCH DIFFERENCE

WHAT DO YOU THINK

Exactly, The similarities and cultural assimilation between Isoko and Urhobo are too high for them to be considered different ethnic groups..Infact both groups are distant members of Edo ethnicity
It's jst Nigerian politics messing with Southern Nigerians

angelo82:
You didn't say the most important thing.....Where are they from?They must originate from somewhere......

Bini during the Ogiso dynasty era

Sophyrocks:
And that is what annoys me about your people. You guys dnt sit down to learn the different tribes of 9ja. Anyone who isnt hausa or yoruba to you, you call the person igbo. Abeg learn from this thread o. Address people by their appropraite tribes.

This only applies for ignorant people living in a bush it's nt a General thing

To be honest I don't like the idea of feminism, the name alone gives it away as a sexist movement.
Most feminist are sexists or have sexist tendencies

Women should be respected as human beings deserving of the rights of a Man but shouldn't be given undue advantage over a man either
Jst look at the crazy woman terminating a pregnancy and depriving a baby boy of life

If all feminists were like this then Masculism is even better

On average Men are more capable than women in sectors were men rule due to interest and mentality but when a woman is capable she shouldn't be shoved aside

It's absolutely stuupid for a person to tell me to give a woman what she doesn't deserve or what she's not capable of in the guise of equal rights

www.netdoctor.co.uk/interactive/discussion/keep-having-wet-dreams-t63769-f10.html

Religious morons will never change until they realize their religion is poo and the actual thing ruining their lives

mikaj:
Calm down bros. Everything that happens na jonna's fault. Person fall, na jonna. Person drink, na jonna. Person dey stupid, na jonna. Person just wan reply to someone's comment, na jonna.

Lmao...I get you

person no gree go work on Monday na Jona cause am
Person no gree go school na jona cause

mikaj:
Na so!!!! Only in Nigeria. Every other country it ain't spiritual but in Nigeria, it has been certified spiritual. Anyway I don't blame them, its all jonna's fault.

A failed attempted at politicising this thread
How has jona got anything to do with this?

tit:
Some men have up to 1000 spirit wifes!
Because na every night dem dey piss for them bed.
Some even use their hand bring out the thing!

Masturbation also is a sign of Spirit wife?