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Fulaman198: There is no way we have less than 30 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Most of those ethnic groups are found up North. Though because of Hausanisation, a lot are left silent.

Fulaman, my friend you seem not to have understood my arguments at all

Let's say the North has 100ethnic groups, what remains of their ethnicity?? You have said they have been Hausanized and a lot are left silent
This is the cultural assimilation I speak of

We in the South West were also culturally assimilated by the "Oduduwa" factor and Oyo imperialism.

maxit2: Typical of your kind. No wonder you want your own country. So you can settle everything with violence and smashing...

Take a chill pill bro. The word peasant isn't an insult. It only describes the size/scale of something/someone. I am intelligent enough to understand you want Ekiti to become a country on it's own alongside other yoruba speaking villages so you all can gdedu with your oduduwa republic thing.
Your reason was because your yoruba village is your father's house.

I am saying, i see way beyond my "tribe" or "village" as my father's house. I see Nigeria as my father's house.
So my dear. Compared to my father, don't you now agree that your own father is a VERY VERY peasant man ?

Just asking. No need to start cursing n threatening me with violence. Just chill n make your points intelligently. I promise to read and do the usual after reading your comment(Laff over it).

You are just an idiiot that's the plain truth. I don't stoop so low to insulting family members of people I have problems with, I address them and their posts.

You have not addressed my post because you lack the intelligence to come up with something other than rants and show your stupidity and idiocy. you are grossly ignorant of what Nigeria is, probably a result of failed education.

You know I want Ekiti to become a country you are mad,where did u get that from?


Reading without comprehending, useless idiot

Omarbah: One common language you said? Do Asians have one common language? Do the Europeans have one common language? Even within little Switzerland, there are three major languages.

What do you mean by this? Is Asia a country?? Is Europe a country?

Switzerland history I don't know much of but check it's geography, it's boarded by all the countries with it's 3 languages...German, French and Italian
there is ancestral link between them, swiss are Germanic by ancestry but have culturally influenced/been influenced by their immediate neighbors.

Omarbah: Can you imagine how many wars can break out as a result of this balkanization? How many small countries would be fighting for land that they claim is theirs?
West Africa has seen her best days during the Ghana and Mali empire. Unfortunately, due to a lack of transportation means those empires could not develop strong armies to establish order throughout the area they ruled to break any rebellion. But those empires were multi ethnic.
After the fall of the Songhai empire that was attempting to do the same as the two previous ones, we ended up with smaller states and that's when the slave trade truly flourished. West Africa became a land where any group of thugs could organize their slave trading company and sell their own for low quality goods that also undermine our small industries. That culture still persist to this day. Every now and then, you see a group of low life criminals take possession of guns and wreak havoc.
Secondly, we live in an age where even European nation states are finding ways to unite because they believe their nation states can no longer protect them against competition from China or North America. Why would we instead moving in the same direction, go in the opposite?
If the current states are to broken along ethnic boundaries, we would our children and grand children great good only if we make our entire region one federal republic. Each group could have their small state but within one large ECOWAS.

And what is wrong with wars? Civilizations are built on wars, those who can't handle it get exterminate or give up and become assimilated, every Great nation had to fight for it's place otherwise why have military?

Pls show us that the people of the Ghana and Mali empire had no cultural assimilation among themselves
I guess to you they were also merged together like canned beef

All this using of fancy names for people to call them ethnic groups instead of clans and tribes is really misleading

Finding a way to unite is not the same as merging like beef in a can under one federal government. We can be friendly neighbors, Infact your best friend should be your neighbouring countries

maxit2: Your father's house is a very small house mate.
Let your father's house be one tiny yoruba village. Tell that to people when you travel outside this continent.
I'd simply proclaim Nigeria as my father's house.

You see. Your father is peasant.

And you insult my father because you can't deal with my words intelligently.

If you weren't hiding behind a computer I would have smashed your head you swine

Fulaman198: India is a good comparison to Nigeria. Nigerian culture? give me a break people are becoming Westernised at a phenomenal rate that I'm beginning to even wonder how many Nigerians even care about culture today. Most of them are listening to hip hop over their own traditional music and see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Nigerian culture can't even be called Nigerian culture any longer amongst SOME ethnic groups. Some people even think that speaking pidgin English over their own native language is great. You can't really call that culture.

what is the comparison based on? Multi-ethnicity??
Multi-ethnicity is just a fancy term like in Nigeria people say 250 ethnicities when by cultural assimilation we have less than 30

What matters is Cultural Assimilation not fancy names. India is mostly culturally assimilated, Nigeria is not

Nigerians who care about culture still exists but why it is not the general is because the Nigerian government doesn't promote culture, doing such would bring about ethnic consciousness which the men in power don't want.
They rather strive for a westernized/arabized society to keep Nigerians forgetting their real identity.

The only true identity of an African is his ethnicity, take away the pride in his identity by not teaching him about his ethnicity - that's what Nigerians screaming "one Nigeria" want

rash47: Tribalism still remains the black man's burden.

Basil davidson.

Tribalism is good. It begets Nationalism and Patriotism but of course only where that tribal/ethnic presence prevails not in Nigeria

Qoigord: Very good thought there OP. I think the major problem behind Nigeria's stagnation is the large amount of diverse cultural backgrounds that has lead to tribalism.
It's kind of become a competition between all these tribes instead of working together to help this nation grow.

The aforementioned countries, regions and areas you stated in your post have a more unified cultural background which is less diverse than Nigeria's. Isn't this the same country with over 250 languages? A country this small with that many languages and tribes is bound to fail.

Can anyone tell me how many tribes or languages we've got in Japan, China, France, Germany, Uk or even the US? Also, there tends to be a certain bias to every tribe in this country. Take for instance, a more qualified Yoruba man wants a post at a job but a less qualified Ibo man gets the job not based on merit but based on similarly between the tribe.

I just keep on hoping everyday Nigeria overcomes this tribal war and work together to lift the nation.

Peace

Beautiful. It's Great some sensible people have seen that the lack of a brotherhood consciousness in African nations as due to diversity is our biggest problem.

"There's strength in our diversity" is the biggest lie sold to us by the Nigerian media as coaxed by the thieving politicians

oboman: Unity rather than language has been our problem......

We see differences where we should see shared values...... The concept of nationhood is still alien to us and we are trying really hard to adjust to it.....

Africans didn't have a say in how their maps were to be drawn, so were lumped together as countries with high expectations being foisted on them because of abundant resources they possess... This is the reason most wars in Africa have been civil wars because tribes that used to be arch enemies were quickly summoned together by imperialist to form a country...

One voice is the birth of cultural renaissance and until we see ourselves as one, we still have a long way to go...


As per why Koreans and Chinese caught up quicker, I think it's because they have always had a form of writing which Africans do not possess....

They have been reading and writing in their languages for the past 5,000 years. Africans only spoke their languages and never fashioned a way of documenting it down. If it had been documented down, it would have given birth to formal education and rapid progress.


A simple knowledge about how germs spread for example might have been translated to local languages written in their forms of writing but knowledge about germs won't spread as rapidly in Africa as it would in China because you first have to teach Africans how to read and write. By the time they get it, their counterparts would have moved to other different things.

Rubbish! Many African nations in pre-European colonial times developed writing. Pls get informed

maxit2: You have got to be the must uneducated eediot on Nairaland.
See how stuupid your post is.
The person you quoted made some very nice and informative points. You just quoted him and started spewing all sort of nonsense.

GET A BRAIN as soon as you can PLEASE !

Pls point out the stupidity in his post

maxit2: IN SHORT:
Humans are like dogs. Different breeds with different qualities.

Some with a lot of muscle but little brain.
Some with brains but little muscle.

Let's not force it people. BLACK race(NOT just AFRICANS) lacks the brains.

By brain, i don't mean the ability to cram formulas or graduate as 1st class in Harvard(This is just a result of hardwork)

A "brainaic" is one who can think outside the BOX/textbooks and see things you'd never see in books.
We just do not belong to that line of human specie.

We have the muscle, the will power to do things. We are survivors. But the brains we just don't have.

This generation definitely but not the black race because if only many are in touch with their ancestral knowledge they would see the brilliance of our ancestors.

ChiSun27: All these continents you mentioned all have a common language spoken and understood by her citizens.


Which common language do you have in Nigeria? Pidgin English


So my friend...the fight should first be: which of the languages spoken in Nigeria should Nigerians adopt as a common language? And until that is done...we will still remain at our average level.


But then the big question is: Will other languages willingly go down for the one that will be adopted?

This also pushes my argument further.

No Nigerian language can oppress the others, it would only go extinct because of so called "one Nigeria"
Where everybody speaks Either pidgin or English

In a country of cultural togetherness and wide spread language, it's government won't be told twice to initiate that language as it's language of all instruction and international affairs.

There's no hope for Nigerian languages in the next 100years if Nigeria still holds...which I reject for my people

Dygeasy: Our problems start from colonization and later on corruption after independence.

Actually Africas problem started from foreign religions...Islam and christianity
These were the first things to plant disunity, misunderstanding and betrayal in our nations.
Islam destroyed Oyo, Christianity destroyed Benin...this is fact

free2ryhme: as long as we are still slaves to tradition which those in the village are not willing to let go. it has become a source for fleecing those that have stayed outside their traditional home for so long.

slaves to tradition?? How can you be slave to yourself??

Our traditions are our identity. Tradition got nothing to do here

Fulaman198: As you know the OP himself is Fulani like me, but from Guinea. Fulani and Hausa don't really like one another outside of Nigeria. But that's besides the point. India is a country that is comprised of a plethora of ethnic groups and they have the 3rd largest GDP in the world. The whole "let so and so be one nation, does not work" It would not work. That is not the problem to begin with. There are many countries in the world with melting pots and tons of ethnicities that are thriving so let's not use that as an excuse.

I know for a fact that Nigeria is not the making of Nigerians, we had no say in it, what even worsens it is that we have no cultural connections.
This is different from India where it's so called "tons of ethnicities" have shared an "Indian" cultural sort of commo wealth union even before British colonization
Indian cultured empires have been colonizing the region thereby spreading it's cultures and accepting influence from it's neighbors

You can't compare Nigeria with India, India shares so much more cultural togetherness

[quote author=safarigirl][/quote]Nice yarn. I never imagined you sabi things like this.

Most naija women are leeches. I know some girls who say they must marry light skinned because they don't want their children to be too black, others I must marry tall, I must marry rich, handsome...such idiocy
When you got nothing to offer than be a nagging pain to such a man

#no offence safarigirl but this is my honest opinion

@OP lemme tell you one fact.

At independence it was decided for most African countries especially Nigeria which I know of to take English as it's official language and language of instruction throughout because we are multi-ethnic- no one language from the native ethnic groups could come out to take the role of "official"

If African nations were drawn on ethnic lines, not religious or former colonial boarders our culture would be preserved better, there would be better nationalism and patriotism, less bigotry in one nation, respect for the neighbours

We stand a lot to gain from totally reconstructing Africa, cleansing the continent of the pollution of the Europeans.

Let large ethnic groups form one nation, Akan be one Ghana, Yoruba be one Oduduwa, Igbo be one Biafra, Hausa(and the settled fulani) be one Arewa


We are bound to progress with better understanding, freedom and cultural independence

OP true yarn.

I keep saying it, that the male gender is nature's blessing to women.

A man gains absolutely nothing from a particular woman that he can't get everywhere else in the world

If it's sex, both of you enjoy it...why should the man be paying for her body and she doesn't pay for his

Women would even come with ridiculous demands for a man eg. Handsome, tall, rich, light skinned- some even want caucasians now
But what have they got to offer these men that would make them leave other girls?

No young lady has answered this yet

The Gods of your ancestors are with you brother, don't let any silly TB jah shiit puppets intimidate you and stop you from doing your job.

Können wir nur auf deutsch schreiben?

Iceslizer: Are there any hard and fast rules for remembering which nouns go with the definite articles 'Der, Das and die'. I know nouns are assigned genders but it's hard trying to remember the ones that are male and female genders.

Lol very true. Here's a tip that works above 80%

words ending with these often relate to these articles:
Der- ig, ling, or, ismus, er
Das- tum, chen, ma, ment, um, lein, nis
Die- heit, ung, keit, ei, shaft

flexxyworld: Not just short, with little or flat chest and dry thick skin..

Lies! They may be short but not flat chested wit dry thick skin...their skin is usually moist

Op I would love to know what ur research is all about

NativeBoy: This is an emotional argument. All the ills you've listed are applicable to any period of time since the beginning of time. We live in a more secular world, are these ills not present?

Emotional?? And wat is yours? Dishonest I would say

These "ills" were supported by the Bible and the church implemented them

coYah: could someone please tell me exactly what the word "duwa" means in english

Thanks

Da uwa in Central Yoruba dialects - Ekiti, Ife, Okun, Ijesa..."da iwa" in Oyo's Yoruba

It means "to set up existence"

Odu to da iwa - refers to the force of the creation of the physical plain

This name has also been used to signify a new era in various periods of Yoruba history

safarigirl: hahahaha, I never said my dad was superman neither did I say I want to marry Superman.

Well, I don't want a perfect man, I want a tall man. You sound really pained, you lack self confidence, hence you feel the need to denigrate women, are you short?

I don't know bout others, but if ever a woman took in for you, I'd really advise her to abort the kid, men who think and talk like you ought to be wiped off the surface of the earth with no traces, wouldn't want the spawn of a silly fellow polluting the earth

You want tall, rich and handsome, every girl dreams of a man with these 3 Many Are Forced To Settle For Less

if a man isn't tall you can't look at him twice because you don't settle for less, you rather remain single...am I wrong?
But seriously tho, what do you have to offer a man that would make him leave other girls out there and pick you?

A tall man gives meaning to your life because you are short
It doesn't concern me if you are 50yrs old and still searching for the tall man that would stick with you

Am so confident that with my looks and finance naija girls fall without me even trying but only few I have seen so far deserve my respect and commitment

every lady wants to have my baby if you knew me personally you would beg me , I jst don't take girls with misplaced priorities seriously

safarigirl: lol, my sister na all these short, broke men dey para for here. They have nothing to offer women.

A man who is confident in himself does not need to ridicule a woman to make his point. Rather he sees women as a challenge, he makes the effort to be good enough for that independent woman. These silly ones are just here trying to demoralise us so that we feel so worthless andd eventually settle for their raggedy azzess.

Dem never start, I'll rather die single and happy than married and depressed.

Yh we know you rather have a rich, tall handsome man or stay single.
But what do u have to offer this rich, tall handsome honk that the next girl can't? Wats special about you? Absolutely nothing, so what's the ridiculously pride all about?

safarigirl: wow, what else do women offer men more than punny?

It is useless ingrates like you that really make people support abortion, maybe if your mother (who is o of the honorary members of 'Useless Naija Women Who Odder Nothing But Punny' had aborted your eediotic, chauvinistic self, we would all have been savedd this gross stewpidity.

Now, if a 'useless Nigerian woman' can give life, then I suppose all you wretched, ungrateful cretins should create a shrine in a woman's honour, right? Indufferable f00l.

What else do you offer? Even the money you talk of, aren't there women that make theirs? Isn't it women that use and dump you people? In case you don't know, men are only good as sp3rm donors (not the brainless ones like you of course )

Women can make their own money, women can buy sp3rm from a sp3rm bank, but men will NEVER be able to PRODUCE KIDS. You can take that and shove it in your smelly azzhole. Cretinous d?ckhead!

Lmao just like ur dad is among the useless Nigerian men.

some naija girls can't even give birth because they've aborted their womb with the baby inside after giving punny to every guy willing to drop money on her lap.

many put their boyfriend through hell with money for Brazilian hair, BIS, new phone, airtime, regular gifts etc. like sey the guy come life for you.
Yet you don't want to be treated like a house wife, when a house wife from the village is more useful to the man

True, women can make their own money but why are many of you so greedy that you would still want to suck a young man dry? Pure wickedness

You posted in the OP that women shouldn't settle for anything less than what they have in their criteria, what are you willing to give a perfect man? Is it not only punny? Which he can find anywhere in the world naija girls no go kill us, in fact dem no fit

safarigirl: only naija men nag to this extent. They nag about everything. They want us to shut up and take all their crap, but they aren't willing to take ours. They think they're God's gift to women when they're only good for straffing.

Bunch of lazy men that blame their short-comings on everyone but themselves, no, they're never wrong. They refuse to shift ground because they're 'men'...very primitive backward people that hate hate themselves and pour their frustration on the poor women that get with them.

I could go on and on about how utterly useless the creatures called Nigerian men are, but I know less than 200 of over 50 million, so it would be myopic of me to crucify millions of men on the same stick as just a few tens.

Now, you and all the men in your family couldn't have met up to 3,000 Nigerian women, so I wonder where these generalisations come from? You sound just like the whites who have pegged black men like you as thieving, crack-head, under-achieving r.a_pists without getting to know them.

Lmao men are a blessing to you naija girls. Most of you are lazy and without us you won't feed, even the ugly ones act like they are miss world

Truth is every woman is replaceable there's no special about one particular miss, every man is too but naija girls have so much misplaced priorities in a man that when they see another meeting their ridiculous criteria better they jump to that one and offer him slack punny, some mumu men too would be spending on lazy ass ladies who can't work for their money.

Bunch of lazy creatures that need a rich, tall and handsome man to live, what do you offer a man other than punny? wat he would still pay for.

Men are a blessing to women

INDESTRUCTABLEX: No beef bro, but this is total backwardness. Wetin concern me concern the battles and civilization of old? It is in no way helping the current day Nigeria. Such talks divide us. E no concern me wetin our grand papa don achieve as long as it won't help us move forward.

Wat is backwardness?? good History of a people is backwardness?
You are mad am sure you don't know your family house.

Current day Nigeria?? Wat is Nigeria? Did my ancestors choose to be Nigerians? To hell with Nigeria.

Because I take pride in my history it means my actions divide Nigeria? Was Nigeria ever united? No
If it was ever united, the pride of itsekiri won't bother you, instead you would be proud too

Rubbish!

safarigirl: oga, no be only me. Abi can you settle for less? After making up your mind that you must marry Genevieve, will you decide to marry Lepacious Bose because Genevieve is not available?

madam, there's such a thing as class

Genevieve probably doesnt go for a guy not up to her class, this could be reason for her loneliness at 35, I don't know her personally but she may be waiting for the perfect man, and not willing to settle for an inch less.
What if the mr. Perfect never comes but Mr right for her, has been there all along?

right is not always perfect, infact A man who has everything in ur criteria is almost impossible (if not totally impossible considering the saying "No human is perfect". Even if u find such a man shey na only u? Other girls too want him
you would be forced to settle for less

safarigirl: Being born into a society such as the Nigerian one connites certain things for a female.

From the day you can tell your right from your left, you're basically taught to be subservient to men. You're told that your place is in the kitchen and your brothers' place is in front of the television. Most of all, you're told that your only purpose in this world, is to fulfill the desires of some dude, serve him and bear his children. You are not to aspire for anything more and failure to live up to these expectations means failure as a person.

Well, this thread was inspired by a certain thread that was on FP today:

https://www.nairaland.com/1911041/why-nigerian-girls-should-not

Now, the stupidity of this thread is baffling. Basically, it's some lady telling females to settle for less. Telling us that we do not deserve the best and we shouldn't make any efforts to aspire for such because that would be foolhardy.

I honestly sympathise with her that she was unable to get the man of her desires, and eventually chose to settle for Plan B, who in fact was not what she desired, but as they say, when the desirable is not available, the available becomes desirable.

Time and again on Nairaland you find numerous chauvinists telling women basically that they have no opinion, telling us that we ought to dance skelewu because one of these rare species called 'men' looked upon us with pity and decided to marry us. And for those poor souls like Rita Dominic, Linda Ikeji and Genevieve Nnaji who are yet to be honored witha wedding ring? They should keep praying the rosary and hope they don't die 'marriageless'

Marriage is the be all and end all of a woman, therefore, she must settle for a raggamuffin if she hasn't found a gentleman at the ripe 'OLD' age of 27. Once you're through with University, your next bus stop should be a man's house.

Many women have ended up in loveless, frustrating marriages after settling for less, because all your friends got married after University doesn't mean you must marry at that time. Don't be the one whose story ends with 'Had I Known'

Feel free to live a little, keep your head on your shoulders, walk with your chin up, if you want your man to be as tall as Lebron James, don't settle for Tom Cruise, if you want him to be as charming as Antonio Banderas, don't settle for Al Pacino, if you want him to be as fit as CR7, don't settle for Mr. Ibu. If you must settle for less, let it be reasonable, don't go from a Lebron to a Kevin Hart because you're 'getting old and all your mates are married" no be who marry first dey happy pass.

Even the bible says "ask and it shall be given unto you" so if you tell God "I will manage..." He will bless you with a 'manageable' man.

God bless you as you settle with the best

I know the thread of "height shouldn't matter in picking a man" pissed u off.
But as a lady pls answer my this question..why do women prefer taller men? Note: I didn't say tall men over short men...jst taller men
Does this matter at all?


like All naija girls I know well, they want tall, handsome, rich, caring, heavy spending etc. men.
Wat happens if the man who truly loves u and would do anything for u has less?

You reject him for a guy that has more but no love and respect for you?