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harbiola1: Will you spare me this ur ancestor sermons?


You are denying the rampant actions because ur people are involved. I wonder how u can post such a ridiculous comment that what we hear on a daily basis is a lie.

I still repeat it that ur people are the only negative catalysts that is retarding the glory of Yorubas with ur useless rituals.

My people So u abiola isn't one of my people?

You are now Arab?

Smh. Such a wasted life

Joshthefirst: christmas is actually about one man that was born sometime ago.

Let me educate you then:

This man was special and his words and works have drastically affected the history of mankind like none other.
This man was not just a great teacher. Infact, there are only two implications we can get from what he said:

Its either Jesus Christ was insane, as c s lewis said, or he was exactly who he said he was. I choose to believe this alive man.

He is the implication of christmas, not santa. Do good to educate yourself on the origins of this yearly celebration. And find this alive man. The saviour. Only then will you enjoy Christmas well.

WTF! josh u really a big hypocrite

Have u educated urself on the origin of 25th December? no, in fact u lack education watsoever to even post this thrash

OLAADEGBU: God never changes the only thing that changed was the changes that sin brought and God only introduced the new laws for our sakes.

Ur God has changed so much.

Isn't it Yahweh that mountain God that the Kenites worshipped

He's now king of the universe, such promotion

Na money....once money is involved legs open wide

bigfrancis21: ^^
Continue in your desire to claim Edo people. After all, everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

Am nt claiming edo people.

Edo are not Yoruba yes
In the same logic non-Oyo people are not Yoruba

We Ekiti choose to be referred as Yoruba not because we are Yoruba but for the sake of "oneness"

As I have explained before All groups in Oodua territory have Tribes of their own

You all have so destroyed ur consciousness that u bash ur ancestors at every turn and praise ur Arab masters

am sure all the traditions of the Arabs are cool but ur Somali traditions are the evil ones.

Bunch of brainwashed slaves

yousuf12: So the man who keeps banging on about Islam being evil worships an idol that demands blood? Tell me more macof, about your cruel religion mate. No wonder why you kept insisting that Allah commands us to kill innocents people because your people are guilty themselves.

Again my people don't kill.

Yoruba people are natural peace seekers. Whether Muslim Christian or pure Yoruba.

If I didn't point out that humans were killed for the Sun God 3000yrs ago you wouldn't have known.

show me any incident were Yoruba people kill anyone and tell me the name of the Orisha the blood was offered to.
If u can't then u are full of ignorance, lack of knowledge and lies.

Unlike Allah who enjoys bomb sounds and killing of non-muslims. Olorun doesn't like such and No Babalawo would ever hurt another human being because Orunmila warns against that

Wats d difference between igala and ebira

So much distortion of history.

Edo, Ekiti, Oyo, Ijesha, Ijebu are all members of the Same ethnic group.
That's simple.

In terms of history and events.
it's ignorance that makes people believe humans come from the sky.

Igodo- 1st ogiso of Igodomigodo is from ancient ijaw area and not from they sky.
he built a stable kingdom and name it after himself "Igodomigodo" and established "Uselu" as his capital.

Oduduwa wasn't from Mecca, that's foolish lies.
Oduduwa as claimed by bini was the son of Owodo- last ogiso.
some unexposed research(which I have feeds on) seem to link Iwo as Oduduwa's possible birthplace.

Ancient Iwo people(present day Ondo) were Ife sibling nations before Oduduwa's grandsons led squads to over populate all their surroundings and became kings in their new found nations.
They shared a similar culture and language that An Iwo man could be mistaken for an Ife man unlike Igodomigodo that shared almost nothing with Ife. Ife and Iwo high chiefs wore similar beaded crowns unlike Ogiso
When Oduduwa came he was understood perfectly and welcomed wearing a beaded crown.

There were even other Towns east of Ife eg. Idanre, so the fact that Oduduwa came from the east doesn't mean he came from far away North East(Mecca) or South East(Bini)

I am not debunking the claim of Oduduwa coming from Igodomigodo but I feel that shouldn't be resolved as fact. Iwo seems more legit


To the issue of Oduduwa coming from the sky. Oduduwa here is not Oduduwa(the king).
This is a confusion with mixing spirituality with history.

Oduduwa is a symbolic representation of the Force of creation, the very dark energy that Carries atoms which in turn forms matter as the universe expands and evolves

These are simple facts

harbiola1: Considering the number of Ritual Killings in the South west of Nigeria alone. Pagans are shameless people for criticizing Islam because of some Muslim.

Can you say Traditionalists are not the main Religious Terrorist in the South West of Nigeria.



This convince me that Tradition is worst. There is no excuse that 99% of those Herbalist/Spiritualist are not evil.
They kill people for useless rituals.


Who knows who?



What evil pagans?
Those that buried their children alive?
That kill human being for their festivals?

Lol, i guess u'll say Quran is Lying?
And history must also be lying. Egyptian, Roman, Nigerian and others' history is also lying'

Pagans, Christians have no say whatsoever when it comes to killings of innocent people. And i know that you guys understand this but hypocrisy is at work.

Lets just review "Christianity and Terrorism" and "Paganism and Terrorism" and see how good they are.

There's no ritual killing in yorubaland.
Baba Orunmila agboniregun stopped it over 3000yrs ago. Only The Sun God kept demanding for Human blood and The Ife people and surrounding communities beg Orunmila to persuade Orun to do without human blood since, Traditions had changed. Olorun personally Took Orun as his property can gave Esu to continue Distributing Ase from Orun.

Lol coinage
First of all?

wat is paganism?

Beautiful.

Sango bi a wa se re
Sango Maa je ka ri Ibanuje
Sango Je ka ma po si
Sango maa je ki aisan mu wa
Sango maa je ka se buruku si Ofin
Sango maa je ka ri ibinu re
Sango maa je ka ri Ibunu Sopona
Sango maa je k'ina jo wa
Sango je ka ma ri idar'aye
Sango maa je ki awon eyon ika se wa
Sango ba mi segun Ota mi

Ase o!

mikeapollo: Who made Ife a colony of Oyo? Where did you get your history? Ooni of Ife had never paid homage to any king in Yorubaland. IMPOSSIBLE!
How can Oranmiyan, the youngest of Odudduwa's children establish Oyo to be superior to Ife. Does that make sense to you?
Before Oyo was established, there had been other Yoruba kings and kindoms. It is not as if Oyo came immediately after Ife. Oyo was established much much later.
And if Oranmiyan's body was buried at Ife when he died.....what does that tell you?
Ooni of Ife is the undisputed numero-uno, the historical, spiritual and cultural head of the Yoruba....Alaafin became recognised by the British because of the military strenght of Oyo.At a time in ancient histroy, a new Alaafin was crowned by the Ooni.

If every kingdom in Yorubaland traces their roots to Ife, then only a drunk person would say the Alaafin is superior to the Ooni!

U lack explicit knowledge in Yoruba history.

Most parts of Modern Yorubaland were under Oyo including Ife.
Oranmiyan was the youngest of Okanbi's sons- Orangun of Ila being the first

Why was Oranmiyan favored over his elder brothers? Nd u think Ife throne was hereditary?
Oduduwa wasn't even an Ife man but he was made king, according to Ife stories After Oduduwa's ascension(yes he didn't die) there were 4 other Kings before Oranmiyan came back.

Why didn't Oranmiyan go back to Ife immediately Oduduwa ascended?
Why did he wait that long for 4kings to pass. Oyo was certainly more important to Oranmiyan than Bini and Ife combined

How much landmass has Ooni controlled? How many Yoruba kings have ever payed him homage? Even Oba of Bini stopped a long time ago, when Bini surpassed Ife by far.

Wats Ife's significance if not land of origin? And spiritual home?

Korrection: becareful guy...this is blasphemy

Rubbish.

Christians are worst and full of blasphemy

Adeola894: All of una wey una dey
curse the man, I'm smh 4 u. If na Pastor Adeboye talk A̶̲̥̅♏‎​ una fit curse A̶̲̥̅♏‎​ lyk dis?

even if it's Adeboye, he dare not utter such senseless statements in public

[quote author=temi-temi]These pastors seems to be missing their point of calling. I wonder how they want to go abt this[/quote]There was never any calling in the first place

blink182: oh please get a life, Christianity is not stereotypical like Islam. If you want to worship Ogun, go and do so. Life after death will tell which religion is right.

Meanwhile, in other news I will rather practise the religion with a living God and not some religion that tries to give life to objects of art and craftsmanship.

Mumu.
Wat makes ur God a living God?

U are really ignorant and upon wat ever level of education u have acquired it's been a waste because u lack knowledge.

U,insult People religion and expect respect for urs.

Muslims haven't finished with ur kind

[quote author=Okija_juju]Very funny....







Why did Jesus not close the wedding at Cana instead he brought more shayo for them..


This pastor should learn to focus on wetin God send am..[/quote]Abi o

Such nonsense that Christians do in the country

Even Obatala priest cannot threaten to pull down beer parlor it's this useless pastor that is

And did I read, he referred to shrines as kingdom of darkness and he wants to pull down shrines? He must be drunk on too much beer to even think this.

I will personal pull down his church branch if he pulls down any shrine.

useless bunch of pastors and evangelist

Pastor Olu T: All that are demons (fallen angels), either in Nigeria or elsewhere.

going by ur logic, Jesus is a demon(fallen angel)

Try to think and understand things before posting ignorantly.

Have u any idea who prometheus is to the greeks?

[quote author=Nigellus_Hosan]Oya I give up..

You Can have ur pagan section..
Pagan mod..
I support the motion..
Whatever..




If only u people would stop Ur Anti-Christian Rallying..[/quote] so u give up, I thought u never give up

Anyway thanks.

It's all for a better course

Okikiade: The History of Yoruba-Rev.Samuel Johnson is now being rubbish because of stating the superiority of the Alaafin of Oyo over any Oba in Yorubaland! When he wrote the book nobody challenges him of distorting history!Why should Ife people now calling him names now? Onirisa means what the deities owns! Because Oni is a priest son not the rightful heir to throne(Oranmiyan's absence caused it)read more from Samuel Johnson's.

Be careful wat u read from Samuel Johnson...the man was just a British pup

Here's some difference in Ekiti and Oyo language....I can't speak Ekiti but I try to understand when spoken to
Oyo - Ekiti
Osi- Usi (left/West)

Iya- Yeye (mother)

Iyawo- Aya (wife)

E Ku'se- Era aba (welldone)
E ku'se - Okun( greetings)

Ogbeni- Awe (reference to ur mate)

Igbo- ugbo (bush, light Forest)

O - I (reference to a third part individual)

Mo ma- Mii ( I will) eg. Mo ma lo- Mii lo (I will go)

Ko si- ke wa (not available)

E[erh] - O[orh] (you) eg. Mo pe e - mi pe o(I called you)

Ibi- Kabi (place)

And many more.... U know these languages are very tonal, one mis-spoken sound in a word distorts it's meaning. An Oyo man would have it easier to push an elephant than Have a nice conversation with an Ekiti man.

I don't base my knowledge on wat some certain people said, when I can prove it myself.

Ekiti is as non-Yoruba as Edo is non-Yoruba

Edo is as Yoruba as Ekiti is as Yoruba

yousuf12: They are misinterpret the verses of the qur'an that is talking about warfare in order to kill innocent people in the name of Allah. But I challenge you to find anywhere in the Qur'an where Allah directly commands us to kill non-combatants.



Where and when?

Lol they are misunderstanding the quran that makes Islam a bad religion however u see it.

A religion that millions misunderstand and feel so devoted to such misunderstanding.

Maybe even u misunderstand the quran.

wat about all the battles against pagans that Mohammed instigated

saxywale: he personally created oyo to be superior... really?
yet he later returned to ife(your less superior-the colony) to rule as a king not even as the first king like he was in oyo.. why is that?

One thing is Only Ife people claim Oranmiyan returned from Oyo

The Oyos say he was never king at Ife, but they agree he died at Ife

His back with a bunker thread

go out naked at around 12am

Call upon all the spirits to posses u.

bigfrancis21: Macof, Edo/Bini/Eshan are not part of the Yoruba tribe whatsoever. Edo is a distinct tribe of its own. Under the Edo tribe, you have respective several dialects/groups such as Bini, Ishan, Afemai, Etsako, Urhobo, Isoko etc which are, in actuality, complementary dialects of one another even though these people would rather want to see themselves as distinct and different. In the field of linguistics, all these groups were grouped as one and called Edoid. Just as you have Igbo, Yoruba tribal constructs where Igbo is the name construct for all bia-speaking clans(Onicha, Awka, Nkanu, Owerri, Arochukwu, Ogwashi Ukwu, Etche etc) who all speak dialects of the same 1 language and Yoruba for all wa-speaking clans(Oyo, Ijesha, ekiti, etc) who all basically speak dialects of the same language. In the same vein, Edo/Edoid is the name construct for all Bini-like speaking clans who speak dialects of the same language with some dialects diverging off so much that it almost stands separately as a different language of its own.

Bini language is neither Yoruba nor Igbo. Its a very distinct language. Edoland being juxtaposed between Yoruba land to its west and Igboland to its east, the Bini language shares word similarities between Igbo and Yoruba.

For Bini-Igbo, common words to both languages are Ugegbe(eye glasses, mirror), Osa(God eg Osakwe, Osadebe which are surnames both Binis and Igbos bear), akpati(box), Uku(great/big), etc. For Bini-Yoruba you have omo(child which some binis also call ovie), oba(king) etc.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_language

Wats killing ur argument is ur lack of knowledge in Oodua peoples history.

Oyo are the only Yorubas, Ekiti, Ijebu, Ijesha, Awori, Owo etc. are not part of the Yoruba tribe, they are tribes of their own and were ones Nations of their own.

For example Ekiti is divided into at least 3 smaller tribes. Here's an history to make u understand

1. The 16 sibling clans.
Ado(formerly Ulesun), aramoko, ijero, ikole, erijiyan, Ikere etc. are Towns of one Tribe in Ekiti- same origin, exact dialect. In fact they all share the same progenitor and ancestor(a very important Ifa priest who lived about 6,000yrs) making them the oldest running tribe in the region.

2. Ido, Osi, Oye, etc. are different from the above and a much newer settlement that came from Ile-Ife independently: Ido was founded by 5Hunters from Ile-Ife about 700years ago
Osi was founded by a prince from Ile-Ife around the same time.
Ido and Osi went ahead to found other Towns eg. Ifaki


3. Other Towns eg. Efon came from Akoko, Ondo and Owo during war against Bini

Now these Ekiti people who are today considered one tribe were initially different people with different origins.
The 3 categories I gave have a distinct dialect among themselves but understand each other well due to frequent trades and the amalgamation of their territories to form one Nation.

Wat makes Bini non-Yoruba is same thing that makes Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu etc. non-Yoruba

They have "clans"(as u call it) of their own within the tribe.

the name "Yoruba" as it refers to all people of the region is to give a sense of one-ness as we have same traditions and similar culture, and closely related languages.

Isan is to Edo as Efon is to Ekiti as Ogbomoso is to Oyo.
So by saying bini isn't part of the ethnic group for some language differences is to say Others aren't part of the ethnic group. I tell u an Ijebu man can never understand Ijesha language neither would he understand Ekiti language
Wat brought about the confusion is that.Most of these cities also spoke Oyo language because they were Oyo colonies. It's like saying Celts and Saxons in Britain are Same tribe

Ur logic on referring Edo as an ethnic group can be used to refer Oyo, Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu as Ethnic groups of their own.

Andre Uweh: Edo is saperate and has never and will never be of the same ethnic group with Ekiti, Oyo, Ijesha etc.

Ok I get u all seriously I do.

But here's but here's my point

Wat do u consider to refer different tribes as part of an ethnic group?
This would help u understand better

Btw is Edo an ethnic group or a tribe?

bigfrancis21: Macof, Edo/Bini/Eshan are not part of the Yoruba tribe whatsoever. Edo is a distinct tribe of its own. Under the Edo tribe, you have respective several dialects/groups such as Bini, Ishan, Afemai, Etsako, Urhobo, Isoko etc which are, in actuality, complementary dialects of one another even though these people would rather want to see themselves as distinct and different. In the field of linguistics, all these groups were grouped as one and called Edoid. Just as you have Igbo, Yoruba tribal constructs where Igbo is the name construct for all bia-speaking clans(Onicha, Awka, Nkanu, Owerri, Arochukwu, Ogwashi Ukwu, Etche etc) who all speak dialects of the same 1 language and Yoruba for all wa-speaking clans(Oyo, Ijesha, ekiti, etc) who all basically speak dialects of the same language. In the same vein, Edo/Edoid is the name construct for all Bini-like speaking clans who speak dialects of the same language with some dialects diverging off so much that it almost stands separately as a different language of its own.

Bini language is neither Yoruba nor Igbo. Its a very distinct language. Edoland being juxtaposed between Yoruba land to its west and Igboland to its east, the Bini language shares word similarities between Igbo and Yoruba.

For Bini-Igbo, common words to both languages are Ugegbe(eye glasses, mirror), Osa(God eg Osakwe, Osadebe which are surnames both Binis and Igbos bear), akpati(box), Uku(great/big), etc. For Bini-Yoruba you have omo(child which some binis also call ovie), oba(king) etc.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_language

Wats killing ur argument is ur lack of knowledge in Oodua peoples history.

Oyo are the only Yorubas, Ekiti, Ijebu, Ijesha, Awori, Owo etc. are not part of the Yoruba tribe, they are tribes of their own and were ones Nations of their own

Even within Ekiti, there's some considerable difference in dialect, Of the 16 major Kingdoms, we find 4 varieties owing to their closeness to other tribes like Okun, Igbomina, Ijesa and Owo, also the origins of the people as many Towns in Ekiti have mixed origins mainly of Ife, Bini, Ijesa, Okun and aborigines of old

Wat makes Bini non-Yoruba is same thing that makes Ekiti, Ijesha, Ijebu etc. non-Yoruba

They have "clans"(as u call it) of their own within the tribe.

the name "Yoruba" as it refers to all people of the region is to give a sense of one-ness as we have same traditions and similar culture, and closely related languages.

Isan is to Edo as Ogbomoso is to Oyo.
So by saying bini isn't part of the ethnic group for some language differences is to say Others aren't part of the ethnic group

Why are Austrians called Deutsch like the Germans despite some difference in language? Even the Dutch of Holland accept their linguistic and cultural bond and history with Germans

yousuf12: If Arabs reinvented Allah as 'the true god' then how come they left out Manaf, Lat and Uzza? I don't want to get into this argument with you again because you don't make any sense.

There are extremists everywhere and their goals are usually politically motivated goals, such as getting rid of a certain leader, killing his/her allies or supporters, weakening the opposition whilst disguising their filthy acts under the religion of God. Obviously you don't see it that way because you believe the bulllshit that comes on your TV and Newspapers.

Tell us exactly where the Qur'an promotes the killing of Innocent people! That is all I want to know.

I am not ready to debate with u either.

Answer this tho.

Why do Muslim terrorist always recite quran as they murder innocent people in the name of Allah?

Why did Mohammed kill innocent people in the name of Allah?