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[quote author=PAGAN 9JA][size=24pt]THNX BE TO THE GODS!

KABIYESI OONI IFE!!!!!!!


I HOPE THIS WILL PUT THE FOOLISH DISCUSSIONS TO END ON NAIRLANAD, REGARDING THE DITORTION OF YORUBA ORIGIN!


NO ONE CAN DESPUTE THE OONI!

HE SPEAKS FOR THE GODS!
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harbiola1: Are u asking me

lord Sango indeed.

Wat town are u from?

Logicboy03: ALL OF UNA DEY CRAZE......


Too much Naruto......Village clans and hidden techniques


(Naruto is from the Hidden leaf clan and He learnt the multiple clone technique- Kage bunshin no jutsu

At least Japan is one country that loves it's ancient sciences.
Ninjutsu was prevalent back then, and as u should know- each clan with it's technique

mikeapollo: Please, keep quiet if you dont lnow Yoruba history.. The Ooni is far far ahead of Alaafin. Hostorically and culturally, several Yoruba tradtional rulers were originally far senior and ahead of Alaafin.

Alaafin was only given more prominence and relevance by the British colonial masters because Oyo had the strongest military might among the Yoruba at the tme coupled with well organised administration....

Oyo Kingdom was established by Oranmiyan, who left Ife to Benin, and later to Oyo. Even after he died....Oranmiyan's corpse was returned to Ife for burial and his mystical staff(Opa Oranmiyan) still stands in Ife till date.

Alaafin's re;evance is a creation of politics....Ooni is the spiritual leader and numero-uno among the Yoruba Obas.

Do u realize that Ife was once a colony of Oyo?
And the Ooni must have payed homage to Alaafin as his head

Back to Oranmiyan, he is was c
Heir to Ile-Ife and most honored in Ile-Oodua after Oduduwa's death.

He personally established Oyo to be superior to Ife, and all taxes collected from his siblings were put into Oyo's development.

I think Alaafin is superior in matters outside spirituality and traditions

Jazzgreen: my bible said STUBBORN ANGELS aka demons were chased down from heaven, Yorubas said ODUDUWA fell from heaven, hmmmm, hope something is not similar here

Ur Bible must be a comic series

Divepen: Ermm...Macof can i ask u questions about your religion...Off this thread too

Sure

The religion of ur ancestors

Banuso99: Owo dialect is very different from Bini's.
There is a similarity of tongue among Owo,Ondo,Ilaje,Ikale and Itsekiri dialects.

Are u sure?

I have never heard Owo language but when it comes to culture, they have bini all over

bizmahn: click on that fellow" macof" profile & click to view his posts & see how he writes UNSPEAKABLE things against God & against christianity.Don't be decieved.

Wat Unspeakable things?

and all I tell is the truth. God is not against the truth, u Christians are the ones living a lie.

Dont be deceived

#missMFM

tintingz: Did Olorun begot this Orishas like the christian god??

So there was judaism during the time of Abraham and was practiced by Abraham(as)? Abraham cannot be a jew because isaac and ishmael(as) are the forefathers of the jews and arabs. Was Noah(as) a jew too?

The Quran clearly said

Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian but he was true in faith and bowed his will to Allah’s (which is Islam) and he joined not gods with Allah(God). (Qur’an 3: 67)

Judaism religion started after Moses(as) death, Moses never mention judaism nor the founder of judaism faith.

I Would always say it boldly Olorun is superior to Yahweh

If anyone knows much about the history of Israel and their land(canaanland) you would realize that Yahweh has been worshipped by Canaanites as a mountain God- Orisha Oke in Yoruba.

The confusion of Yahweh being the only God started with Israel's return from Babylon and the 2nd temple.
Judaism was formerly known as Yahwism in that region. As Israel was devoted to one God just like Ekiti is devoted to one God

I never called Abraham a Jew, I said he was Hebrew(ivri in Hebrew-English transliteration) meaning "other side".

I read
Mesopotamia was at the other side of a river from canaanland, Abraham calling himself "Hebrew" meant he was from "the other side"

Mr. man ur Koran is flawed and it's writers were hell bent on famzin with Judio-Christian God. Mohammed was influenced a lot by Jews and Christians.

Allah is not the God of Israel, Yahweh is.
Allah is the God of Mecca and it has been that way since pre-Islam Arabia

doubleDx: Human arrogance!!! Everything is myth, myth, myth..... yet your science cannot explain how advanced mathematics was used (with so much precision) in constructing some ancient structures! I bet those pyramids your science & archaeology failed to explain how they were built by ancient cave men are myths too... Smdh!

Our assumptions and arrogance is why we believe life started through evolution and that we are the "only" civilization in the universe! We see everything from religious books written thousands of years before science as mere myths...Smdh!

Take it or leave it, my BIBLE doesn't LIE...Everything written therein is TRUE and NOT some Canaanland mythology/stories!

Hold ur horses. I am not atheist.

U don't read, travel or ask questions.
U lack basic knowledge of how spirituality works because u are too religious.

You can't understand the concept of that story.

By "myth" I don't mean it's a lie. I mean it represents something else.

Wat the deal is now is to decipher wat the symbolism represents

toniecutie: [color=#990000][/color] I am a teen girl but i dont date and i plan to date when i am ready for marriage. Teen guys are like kids and dont know how to treat girls so i dont even look at them except when they are handsome so guy wait till you mature because from what you are like a kid who they took candy from

U are a kid and u saying the ones like u act like kids. U looking for who would treat u by spending his fathers money aren't u?

Sorry only a fooling teenage boy would do that.

You better concentrate on school and live males alone. Whether Boys or men leave them all alone, it doesn't pay u.

Adult guys who know how to treat u, would treat u and dump u painfully.

I see light in this Issue Ghost is on.

Africans have always had a strange unexplained technique for doing things.
This techniques were never open to the public, it's always be reserved for specific cults that demand much devotion and a rigorous initiation.

A particular technique could be found only in one clan, in one village, in one tribe.
And it would have been a well kept secret to prevent targeted attacks.

Imagine Nigeria making use of such techniques in it's Science and Research

harbiola1: Sango ko Chinko ni.

guy wats ur beef with Lord Sango?

ichidodo: [color=#1980BC] No, Oduduwa came from Outer Space with his Space-ship, the locals couldn't fathom it out into a tale so they switched on the Chain-in-Heaven bullcrap. Other fellows high on weed came up with the mecca story.[/color]

Would do for a cartoon story

01mcfadden: We are all made to know that yorubas came from mecca.
We later heard oduduwa came with chain from heaven.
We dont even know which of these is true bt i sure know if he came from mecca,why are yorubas black?
Or are people living in mecca also black?
Yrouba's history is being distorted for real!

Yoruba history doesn't start from Oduduwa.
There were people living in Ile-Ife before Oduduwa.
Oduduwa's time on earth should be around the 10th century

Oduduwa didn't come from Mecca, He might have visited Mecca, but he was not Arab. It's much logical to believe he came from Igodomigodo(ancient bini) or Some other cities around the east of Ife notably Iwo

salam001: did oduduwa really fall from the sky?,i wish i was there to ask him if oduduwa was an astronaut or winch

no. humans don't fall from the sky.

That story isnt literal. Oduduwa represents the dark energy in Creation.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

Our ancestors have always known wat science is just finding out.

The personality of Oduduwa in the Yoruba creation is a personification of the dark Energy

aventura: Ooni of Amala.

Respect the king

IamTitanium: #yawns# Let him GO AND DIE

And ur popsy would follow him

So Manchester united lost, We don't hear British suicide it's Kenyan suicide that we hearing.

Wat the fuxk is wrong with some Africans

this is why I watch only CAF champions league and NPL

Pastor Olu T: Seriously, what book exactly are u referring to?

Yes am serious.

One more thing, that verse is a little cut show from a bigger story that was told in ancient Canaanland.

It's just a myth and shouldn't be taken literally

[quote author=Nigellus_Hosan]1. yes and he sipped heavenly palmwine while he watched 6 million Ibos starved to death..

Yet the Ibos & Jews are still worshipping Jehovah..



2. Many Christians have never fasted..
He said we should pray in spirit n in truth from d pureness of our hearts so why subject ur body to irreparable torture..

3. When i pray i don't picture d blue eyed Jesus or anyother image of any sorts..
Just a oneness in my heart n a Silence..



4 between 've never seen a blue eyed Jesus...
He was always brown eyed in the Children bible stories..[/quote]1 6million ibos starved to death? When was this?

Not all ibos, the ones who do are slaving themselves



2. "he said" who said? Cause Jesus never said such.

3. Because theres Jesus no image of Jesus to picture. Silence is wat u would always get

4. lol u really a dumb one. so u not allowed to watch TV at home. You haven't seen Movies with Blue-eyed Jesus

[quote author=Nigellus_Hosan]Where do u stand..
Neither here nor there..
Today Atheist..tomorrow pagan..next tomorrow lukewarm Xtian

Laugh all u want..
Smash all u want..
Break ur phones..tear ur clothes..tear ur hair
cos ure ancestors were once Savages atleast they had a cause..
They can't be held accountable..
The truth wasn't fast enough..
They are in a better place than u'll ever be..
A man is judged by the goodness of his heart..

But u've heard d gospel..
What other excuse do u have..
Ur blood is on ur head..


U use the white man's phone..
U read his books..speak his Language..
U wanr to be like him..u tone ur skin with his creams..

What makes u better than d so called deluded Xtians who have snuffed the opium of delirious religion..

Atleast we're at peace with our soul..
He brought salvation n Civilization..
Yet u choose to dwell only on d negative..



Enjoy ur Pagan dance..
Christians av Survived 2000 years..
Do u think a bunch of nobodies can stop that..


Between who are u guyz..
've heard of Ben Carson a renowned Neurosurgeon..
He cuts out part of the human brain..
He cures people of madness..
He tears up conjoined humans n gives dem each a new organ..
He's a god...
He's a Christian still..
He looks into the power house n minds of people..

Please who are u people ...
Who knows u..
Which textbooks would bear ur name after ure gone..
U seat here bickering because a platform has been created for you..


Keep on in your dementia..
That's what happens when u lead a purposeless life..[/quote]first of all who is this addressed to?

Wats ur opinion on ape-like fossils found all around the world?

I think this proves that before modern men, migrations and expansions were done.

it's also very possible that life didn't start in one place

KidStranglehold: Another thing one should note is that L3 mtDNA(which is associated with the Out of Africa) is actually highest in West Africa than anywhere else on the planet according to this study.

Mitochondrial DNA/mtDNA (page 5)
http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

Modern day Africans are obviously descendants of those early Africans than anyone else.
[img]http://forwhattheywereweare.files./2012/01/fig-3.png[/img]

Which is also why Africans are the most diverse humans.

True, but many make the mistake to refer Africa as "one people"

I think it would be more efficient to study the origins of various Africa groups before moving on the world level.

tintingz: 1. God doesn't have a son and wife or does Olorun has a wife and son?


2. Debating this with a pagan is a waste of time

3. Jesus didn't die according to the Quran, Jesus(as) didn't mention being in a judaism faith in his gospel, all prophet are muslim cuz they preached only one God(monotheism).

4. There is even the word mushlim(muslim) in hebrew bible where Jesus said it.

1. Olorun has no wife but he has heavenly children called the Orisha.
The Orisha are distant parts of Olodumare, In fact everything is a part of Olodumare.

we are all in a cycle, it's an ever reoccurring world in Olodumare.

As I like to say, God is Energy, the ultimate form of energy. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can only change from one form to another.

God's conscious movements birthed the universe. The the entire universe is filled with Energy-God.

2. I was once Christian and there's nothing u a muslim knows about Jesus that I do not know and more

3. Keywords- "according to the quran"
a man doesn't have to go around creaming "I am Jew" but seriously, Are u trying to be dumb or wat Jesus was a Jew, wat does being Jew mean to u?

Lol the bold is so funny....where do get this poo?

Abraham was Hebrew- a born Mesopotamian pagan who left his nation and lived in Canaanland, he adopted a Canaanite God- Yahweh.
Moses was Hebrew- grew up as a Kemetian Pagan, he reverted to the God of his ancestors- Yahweh
Elijah(meaning Yahweh is my God) was an Israeli Prophet who preached Israel should worship the God of their fathers- same with Isaiah and Malachi


This here aren't muslims but Hebrews.

So if I decide to preach the one God of Ekiti, that makes me a Muslim

4. Pls wat verse? And wats the meaning in Hebrew?
I would like to post something about this but let's see u prove urself first.

[quote author=Nigellus_Hosan]Have U ever been in need and u Cried out to your God n he responded...
My God has been responding..
I can stake my soul that all the pagan gods are dead pieces of metal..bronze..wood & Ceramics..
They can't even help themselves..[/quote] I have always been provided with all I need.

my God has given me everything I need, it's only greed that would make me start fasting for 3days to appease Yahweh

Dead pieces of metal and wood are not Gods.
Gods are unseen and don't die like Jesus

I guess ur God is so magnificent and awesome that he sipped heavenly beer as Hitler killed his children in millions.

Wat should the Gods help themselves for? Or from? They help Men and not themselves

FrancisTony: 'cos he was never God that time till he rose up and was exalted.

Lol like Sango

harbiola1: Macof nw playing defensive side with his common defensive saying "If you don't know ask ur elders"

Me i don't need to ask anybody, only GOOGLE GO DO.

Be careful wat u read from links provided by google, when I started learning the Yoruba spirituality I was misinformed very often.

Ur elders in the village or actual practitioners are best, you could attend a festival

yousuf12: ^pagan macof, as a human you got no knowledge of who's in hell and who's in heaven. Cursing is another thing but you can't know for certain that they are in hell.

Do you also believe that the Qur'an orders the killing of a non-combatant?

True but why do muslims and especially Christians come up to me spreading their foolish by telling me pagans would go to hell

As if Allah and Yahweh didn't start of as pagan Gods.
I could easily proclaim my tribes God as God of the universe and create a new religion with all the rules to escape hell but of course not because Yoruba pagans are much more honest and righteous than many of u so called "servants and children of God"

The Quran promotes such

Pope Xander VII: "To hell with your Fore-fathers"?!

I'm so Shocked!!! How can anyone say that?

It's brainwash and mental slavery