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POPE II: you see what I was talking about? Stupidity and mental slavery? Like really?

Dude you do that all the time I have been watching both of you from the sideline for a while and this is actually what you are doing.

Some of us ? Lol
As for my ancestors they were christians-Catholics .

So u claim Roman descent now?

mikeapollo: You people are very funny. It is only in your imagination that Oyo would be superior to Ife. I am not from Ife!
All the recognition given to Oyo came from their military prowess. Military prowess leads to political relevance. That is all Oyo had. But Yoruba histotry is deeper than that.
If the Oyo kingdom/people trace their roots to Ife(Oranmiyan's home), then how can the Alaafin of Oyo(a decendant) be greater than ruler of The Source?
Why was Oranmiyan's body buried in Ife? What does that tell you? If Alaafin of Oyo cannot show you the grave/tomb of Oranmyan in Oyo, then what does that tell you? Oranamiyan'd grave is in Ife, his home!
Oranmiyan had a mystical staff(rod) called Opa Oranmiyan(Oranmiyan's Staff,which was more like his guide/power, just like Moses had. Where is the staff standing today? It is in Ife, not Oyo! What does that tell you?
Oranmiyan left Ife to Bini, before he lleft to establish Oyo. How does Oyo become superior to Kingdoms that had existed long before it?

It beats my imagination how people could allow petty politics to cloud their sense of judgement.

Even first generation Yoruba kingdoms like Ijesha, Ila, Egba, Ijebu, Ekiti etc all trace their roots to Ife. So how could Oyo be superior to Ife? How many Yoruba first genertaion Yoruba kingdoms originated from Oyo?.

Oyo might have expanded in territorial land mass because of military conquest. Wherever you conquer in war becomes part of your territory and you can start collecting taxes, royalities (Isakole) from the people......not because they had any historical, cultural, ancestral, or spirirtual superiority over Ife. IMPOSSIBLE

Go and cleanse yourself of bias and you would appreciate/understand your history better!

Even Yoruba in diaspora eg Cuba, Brazil, Venezuela etc know that Ife is their ancestral home. The Ga people in Ghana also have a part of theirt histroy that traces their roots to Ife......but here we are.....Nigerians who are too biased to say the truth!

It's settled Alaafin and Ooni are equal simple!

DerideGull: Nelson Mandela did not win anything. Mandela was imprisoned due to terrorist acts against Apartheid regime in South Africa. He was set free by the same Europeans who imprisoned him in lieu to maintain status quo in RSA except Apartheid. It is an act of goofiness to say that Mandela was spotless. You are definitely drunk on irresponsible sentiment.

The hate has begun

Z3tdee: Kwame Nkrumah, the greatest African...

Wat do u know about Africa?

otijah: Wow, Who says nothing good can come out of nigeria? I proud of my country

Because of ordinary music video smh

POPE II: no noise from pagans? You and atheists are the one making most of the noise here , there's no thread where I won't see pagan9ja and you insulting Christianity and asking us to worship/follow the so called religion of our ancestors

We try to liberate ur kind from stupiditi and mental slavery.

Some of u have tagged paganism is satanism

Where ur ancestors are in hell while ur European and Middle eastern Masters are in heaven.

Btw. Show me where any pagan asked any Christian to worship any God

FrancisTony: Isaiah 7:10 moreover the lord spoke again to ahaz saying,
11. Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God, ask it either in the depth or in the height above.
12. But ahaz sai, i will not ask nor will i test the Lord
13. Then he said, hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also.
14. Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign, behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name, Immanuel.
15. Curds and honey he shall eat that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the good.
mathew 1: 22 so all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet saying
23. Behold, the virgin shall be with child and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which is translated, God is with us.

Mathew is talking abt Jesus.
Isaiah is also talking about Jesus, but i'm confuse abt the bolded part. Thanks #shalom

Lies and lies.

Immanuel is not Yeshua

advocate666: @Divepen. Do you realise what you are saying?

1- That God is omnipresent.
2- That God is not everywhere.

Maybe you do not know the meaning of omnipresence.

Omni-impotent

emotional: @Ghostsparta
Thanks for taking your time to enlighten pple like myself.pls permit me to put these questions to u here(unrelated to topic) after reading most of your writings on NL.
1.Is there any relationship between 'awon-iya-onshoronga' (eleye/aje) and Orunmila? Cos I ve always think that they'eleye/aje' are d ones behind it.
2.Is it normal for babalawo to prescribe/suggest or recommend orunmila as a solution(to deliver/protect)to some spiritual problems?
3.Is being a child/ worshiper of orunmila a choice or destiny?e.g during ifa consultation, Babalawo asking his client who knew nothing abt Orunmila,where is his Orunmila/ifa(I mean the visible items seen on the altar or shrine)
4.What is ifa and Orunmila, Any difference?
5.Can Ifa be consult on phone or is just a scam?
Pls Note: terms used are based on my little knowledge abt this things. preferred mailing pls let me know

1. I don't know much about Eleye/Aje but their roles are not about Money, They are simply old wise women who have broken the veil between Spiritual and Physical. So anything is possible with them. Orunmila is the omniscient force of wisdom and knowledge much of An Aje's work can be credited to Orunmila and also Esu.
Note: Aje are not evil, neither are they blood suckers. They are advocates of balance

2. Orunmila knows the solution to all problems. That is why people go to his priests in the first place, they recommend solution to the problems u have, sometimes giving directives to connect with other Orisha who are key to such solution

3. Both. But even at choice Ori is always involved

4. The Names are used interchangeably, but Ifa is like Orunmila's scriptures.

5. Ifa can only be consulted by a trained Babalawo using Opele and Opon. It's a system non-initiates like u and I can never understand

olaife80: Congratulation!!! As usual the place will soon be No Man's Land.

if it isn't already

FrancisTony: another attention seeker. Jehovah witness follows bible indeed. @bolded shebi u're d eyewitness, abeg i'm expecting the video oo. Ermm @harbiolar i'm coming for d answer of ur question.

Point is u are too religious to be spiritual.

You prefer kissing the feet of ur Vatican masters.

Wait a minute. Have u ever read the history of Christianity and catholism?

You would be surprised if u are intelligent enough to see the conspiracy.

Romans are Lords #fact

POPE II: Stop being a nuisance my pagan brothers we shouldn't let atheists destruct our brotherhood. I'm Catholic pagan9ja I can't tell anything to tb Joshua and we don't preach against anyone.

Why do you ask?

After Catholism has already done the harm.

Pentecostals have started theirs but As usual No noise from pagans

I love Nigeria but am not proud to be Nigerian.

Garaad: warya speak for yourself

aniga waahaan ahaay nin Somali and have yet to meet another Somali who views themselves as anything but African and black. Plus most Somalis despise the Arabs more than anyone else.

our people look like this

https://radiokhaatumo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/221.jpg

and Arabs look like this

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/12/29/1293650817649/Israeli-Arabs-chant-Islam-007.jpg


outside of religion we got nothing else to do with them

plus they are the most racist people in the world and hate black people more than anyone......and FYI they consider us black.......I can't tell you how many of my relatives have had horrible racist experiences in the Arab world

Not only Arabs, all middle East including Israel are hardcore racist

Against mostly those who share their faith or worship their God

Anyway, You all should know wat u get for letting people invade and convert ur land.

funny thing is most muslims and Christians don't mind the racism- mental slavery
Allah and Yahweh always in control

All these things that u all are saying is BS

Jesus- Zeus
Yahweh/Jehovah- Uranus
Mary-Rhea

there u have a perfectly modified Roman pagan religion to Catholism
Which turns to other denominations as the catholics didn't cover their tracks well enough.

JW are the ones who take the Bible seriously and follow it word for word, but of course it's still a religion made by Roman pagans

All these Christians and lies
Now they deny preaching against paganism in their churches

Mr. Seun Osewa.

At least comment here

ngozievergreen: its not even about the roofs alone but the houses they cover.
miserable bungalows everywhere, ah ah.
Awada buildings in Onitsha alone looks more like what u have in developed cities.
I don't know whether its poverty or lack of taste that is disturbing those ppl.
And one of them came to write igboland is jungle, lwkmd

Still you and ur brothers leave ur New York like Enugu to come make money in the jungle Ibadan.

Lol stop deceiving urselves.

If there's anything worth bragging in iboland, u would stay put

Ezemust: u ar wrong.in d igbo history(which pple taged''gues work'')equitorial g features a lot.

Share some history lessons pls

ngozievergreen: This is Enugu, city

Is that not Lagos keke am seeing?

ngozievergreen: This is Ibadan, jungle

But u and ur brothers run away from owerri to the jungle in multitudes

[quote author=Gab-real]I don't exactly agree wit you. Because jesus didn't have a donkey doesn't mean pastors shouldn't have jets. Jesus died on the cross, should oda pastors die on the cross too? With wat you have said, your claim is dat no rich pastor is a true follower of Christ.[/quote]Isn't Jesus the iconic role model of Christians?
If Jesus is still alive would he be flying private jets?

All of our pastors will be rejected by Jesus on judgment day
For not following his example

Pharoh: It is good to discuss this now and plan for the future because it is important to know the position of every potential ethnic groups before that day comes. I am not yoruba but would not mind offering my advice if needed or you hope to discuss with only the ethnic groups that make up the yoruboid nation etc.

Thanks.
And it is true people need to start thinking of this now.

Your opinions are very welcome

In one of the stories told by Ife people

Aramfe: ancient Ife name for Sango, as Oyo called him Jakuta

Aramfe was the brother and companion of Obarese

Obarese is the Orisha of Rain

lightening is the companion of rain.

These are not myths but facts

onyxo76: abi o, most folks have turned these phones to their idols and gods...

U can't turn a fone to a God

Which God are u people even talking about

Divepen: NO
GOD can not stay in an unholy place or thing

Na wa o

So poo is unholy too

Op. L3 plays Asphalt 8 and it's an awesome game.
Why would A+ fuvk up like dat?

Abi u trying to spoil market for techno so ur company fit sell?