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wordsbase: Why do you guys keep evading the most pertinent question here? Where does this ultimate force of creation come from?

And let me tell you, the deepest pain is felt in the depths of the soul. Your emotions are embedded in your soul, using your body more as a slate for their expression.

Hell is more real than you can imagine.

If u are wise u would know wat this ultimate force of creation truly is. It comes from nowhere, like I called it ultimate force of creation it is the beginning of everything and everywhere

lol emotions are embedded in the brain not the soul.
The soul only powers the brain

wordsbase: Where did this pure conscious energy you are talking about come from?

Are u aware that Energy has no beginning? Energy is not born but only changes in form.

God is that Pure conscious Energy that has no beginning, that exists in everything.

But U christians take God as a personified individual with emotions and threats.
U even think he has a body sitting on a throne in heaven.
Wat differentiates the bible God from a normal Man?

ifeness: so who created God?

what every humans have in common is ENERGY! Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. So your bible lied when it say some souls will be destroyed. SOULS are eternal......they cannot be destroyed. Bible is based on fear

so true.

Souls are a kind of energy formed directly from the Ultimate force of Creation. Souls are eternal, souls cannot feel pain, Souls have no emotions. Humans shouldn't fear hell after death because no hell can hurt a Soul

ifeness: When you realize that everything is within EXISTENCE,then your god is within existence. Creation does not necessarily need a creator. Look around you,you will see the mountain claimed to be created by the bible God being repeatedly being created by volcanic eruption. Those are creations created by pure energy which definitely has got nothing to do with the bible God.

Rather that worship God, i will prefer to worship the God that created God.

exactly! Pure Energy is the true creator of the universe. Pure conscious Energy not a God that hides on mountains or asks for worship or threatens people wit hell. the Bible god seems more human than an actual unseen force

wordsbase: Atheists, They ignore the truth about God creating the world, and so try to make up an alternative fact: that the world as we know it is a result of the commutation of cosmic energy, from nothingness into something; that we are a result of primordial slime; that there cannot be no truth to divine creation...
But, I will no more believe these facts above than I will that an excellent dissertation or treatise was a result of the random juggling of the alphabets.

Actually Science has been mostly correct about the creation of the universe.

its collision and mutation of cosmic energies that formed and still forming the universe. My spirituality proves science correct here

ifeness: If the universe was created by the christian God,what created the christian God? If the christian God does exist,he needs to have a creator and his creator will definitely have a creator.

The simple logical answer is: Existence doesn't have a creator! Infinity has no creator. God of the bible is a finite being not infinite. Infinity means everything imaginable. The christian God is limited and only ascribed to the Christians.

A very good point.

christians say only them know god, so why proclaim him a universal god if only a few people know

wordsbase: A conscience placed there by God. Unfortunately many people have refused to listen to it. They rather smear it the voice of reason, and feelings.

Conscience controls reason and feelings, so wat are u really saying

Divepen: Mark my word
Christains Will soon start proving with the Bible that wearing
Leggings to church. Is right..
Atheists,pagans ,Muslim and all shall say Jesus is lord.

Many Christains will backslide through Nairaland
Many people will be be saved into the Kingdom of God through Nairaland.
Atheists:you will plead for your life if you refuse to accept Jesus before you die.
Muslim: you will wish You accepted Jesus
Pagan:You will wish you had never serve gods
Christain:You will wish you had allow people to call you S..U,pastor and so on;Rather than conformin to the worldly way of life
Catholics:you will wish you never hailed mary..because you will see prove that you are worshippin an Image

Mark my word.

u are a foolish idiota

u think u are so perfect and know how to do the things the right way.

You mark my words.... You shall regret ur disrespect against ur ancestors

[quote author=lana_Vello]Everyone reserves the right to be a free thinker tho there's that part of us that knows the very truth,buh due to waheva reasons,we refuse to accept it so we engage in unnecessary&futile arguments to convince ourselves otherwise![/quote]Fear of the imaginary hell is wat still keeps a lot of people bond to christianity and islam

Rexyl: nope

so jesus is coming back in flesh all grown up with beards and mustache

the only reason why jw call God jehovah is because they worship the god of israel and not the God of the universe

Divepen: e has bn proved...
Choose you this day whom you will serve God or god.
But I wl advise you choose God.

No he has not...the bible god is not even one god
wats the difference between God or god u just use a small letter and think thats a difference

Divepen: Follower does not mean disciple...
Many ppl followd christ but many wthdrew..
Only the disciple continued and dat is y u r invited to b a disciple of Jesus

and wat is judas iscariot?

Divepen: I am talking of the one that can do the followin @ once

Stay in heaven
Live in human
Kill
make alive
Heal
Destroy
creates
Stay in cave
Stay on mountain
stay in river
cause earthquake
bring increase
cleanse sin
E.t.c

attributes of a loser god

Divepen: And it is wise to choose the best part..
Knowledge that there is God is the best thn...
Accpetin his authority is just superb agrreing wit his ordinances is the way to his kingdom...
.Using the law in Exodus 20 and leviticus 19 make sense

slave

u accept a law that doesnt even apply to u or ur people

Are u Jewish to even consider living by Jewish laws?

Divepen: have u ever wondered wat force is keepin d earth away from d sun and not allowin us to enter d sun.


What keeps river stationed @ their bank
from who did the wind comes from
who created thunder...
Pls do not let ur @ b deceived :::Jesus has bn proven

So how does this prove ur bible god?

the gods of paganic religions are responsible for the sun, rivers, wind, thunder etc

Divepen: The almighty God ...
The one the Bible preaced..
The one who commissioned us to preach d gospel

The bible god is not the almighty God
No God would ever commision anybody to preach "worship me and accept me or go to hell"

Divepen: To b gr8 in life u need to succumb to authority...
Jesus is the only assurance to eternal life...
Have u eva wondad wat wl happen to doz dat died around u l8ly

u accept to succumb to authority because u love living a slaves life

jesus cannot assure anything because u cant possibly believe God would reject muslims, hindus, shinto, and even all humans before jesus lived

ifeness: which of the Gods are we talking about? Apparently there are several bible Gods. The OP should tell us which one he is talking about.

Very true. i have proof that The ancient God of Israel(the main God of the bible) is not the most high but a common mountain god

wordsbase: Fortunately for you, your conscience is the voice of the Holy Spirit talking to you. I hope you do give heed to it's saying.

guy dont embarrass urself

holy spirit is a christian concept, and non-Christians have no business wit the non-existing holy spirit. and we all know that all humans have a conscience

Oduduwaboy: This story has not proved anything about God's existence joor ......
at least not the God of the bible !

nothing can prove the Bible god exist

dats why I have my own understanding of what God truly is

Ranchhoddas: spare me the sermon.i am a christian cos i was born into a christian home.the same goes for most muslims,buddhists,hindus,etc.reading of historical accounts and learning other peoples views has made me develop doubts about religious concepts such as heaven,hell,Jesus etc.telling me to sacrifice those doubts on the alter of faith is just unacceptable.so i'll continue to live my life like this(conscience controlled)[b]until a christian or any other religious afficionado can prove to me BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that his/her religion or lifestyle is the ultimate.[/b]until then...

No religion can prove to be the ultimate, none is complete and understands life better than the other.

I hate christianity and islam because they both claim to be the only way and upon their flaws they discourage free thinking and outside knowledge

Ranchhoddas: ouch...that is because unlike you,i do not judge people by their religious affiliations .i learn new things from those guys on a daily basis.if i start following people like you,the only thing i'll get are bible verses and how God is going to roast billions of people for all eternity.i am sick of that.so don't blame me.i am a christian.i allow my conscience guide how i live my life so that when that judgement day comes,i'll have a case to present(i'll get my day in court)if after that God still insists on the barbeque,then c'est la vie.

You no miss road. letting ur conscience guide u is the best thing

Divepen: Thaz it ma, Only Jesus saves

Only Ori(self consciousness) saves

Divepen: It silenced the Atheist..
Pls ...dont change your mind Go on your knees and ask God for help,he is real he can save you...
Without him we are just actors on stage

actually everyone is just an actor on a stage, this life is like an illusion. A vitual reality game

the real world is lived by our souls in the spiritual realm

oyinbogirl: Have you read the account of Genesis? That shows the beginning of creation, and Adam and Eve. The opposer shows up as Satan, who desired the worship that was rightfully Gods. Satan is mentioned in the Bible 100's of times by the way. But in Genesis chapter 3 we see the introduction of man's enemy as he asked Eve about the forbidden tree. He said "Is it really so that God said you must not eat from every tree in the garden?" 3:1 And she replied : "Of the fruit of the trees of the gardens we may eat. But as for eating of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said : "[/i]You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it in that you do not die"[i] 3:2,3 Satan goes on to say in 3:4,5....."You positively will not die, for God knows in the very day of you eating it, your eyes are bound to be open, and you are bound to be like God, knowing good and bad"

So Satan did not tell Eve she must eat it, but he planted a seed of desire in her, and also implying that she could be like God IF she partook of the fruit of the tree. No doubt she walked past that tree everyday, and, although the Bible gives no account of how long it took her to eat of that tree, the result is that the longing took hold in her heart, an improper desire (and also disobedience to their loving creator) Eve & Adam had their share of blame but Bible accounts render Satan as the cause of the downfall of mankind. He misled the first humans and is misleading many in this world to this day. The whole world is in his power...1 John 5:19


2 Corinthians 4:3,4 as well mentions how Satan has 'blinded the eyes of those not believing, so that the glorious news about the Christ is veiled. He is clearly controlling and manipulating the world while he still has time. Do you read the Bible can I ask?

genesis 3 was about a walking serpent who told the truth not satan

and dont distort people's religion. the jews who own the story dont hold satan or any serpent to blame. Its normal human character to be curious

And where did ur foolish church leaders come up wit the idea dat satan is evil? The Original judaic religion portray satan as a member of Gods council, A faithful servant of the most high(El Eyon).

You christians are just to dumb nt to understand wat u read in the bible, rather letting urselves be decieved by Justin Martyr and his erroneous bible interpretations

Image123: What does repentance mean to you?

retracing ur steps to find the right path

is jesus gonna be reincarnated?

the so-called visions of hell is either made out of imagination or a blatant lei

highyo: Fact One: Hell is likened to a lake of fire into which the wicked will be cast alive (Revelation 19:20; 20:15).

Fact Two: Hell is likened to a bottomless pit (Revelation 20:1).

Fact Three: Hell was prepared for the Devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

Fact Four: Hell is a place of everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46).

Fact Five: Hell is a place where one can never repent (Matthew 12:32).

Fact Six: Hell is a place of torments (Luke 16:23).

Fact Seven: Hell is a place where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched (Mark 9:46).

Fact Eight: Hell is a place of everlasting destruction from the presence of God (2 Thessalonians 1:6-10).

Fact Nine: Hell is a waterless place with no exit (Luke 16:24-26).

Fact Ten: Hell is a place of outer darkness, weeping, and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 25:30).

If all of the descriptive definitions of Hell above are figurative, then how much worse are the realities of Hell going to be? Hell is not a place that any rational thinking person would want to go or want anyone else to go. Those who are unrighteous will be in Hell. Obey the Gospel of Christ today to avoid the horrors of this place in eternity.

keep living the life ur early church leaders have created for u

hell is false, God doesnt have intentions of giving eternal punishment to anyone

bimx19: wHat we must all know is that oduduwa is not yoruba's name. It was the name the man was bearing before he came to yoruba people let us just find the root of the name and the tribe that is bearing such in the world

says who?

oduduwa is of pure ancient Ife language