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PhysicsQED: There probably was some earlier settlement there founded by peoples from the hinterland and possibly from Ife specifically.

By 1603 however, there was only a Benin war camp there - a foreign visitor who went to Lagos in 1603 (a German surgeon aboard a Dutch ship) wrote about this and that written description is the earliest written mention of the inhabitants of Lagos island. Had he visited a century earlier, that foreigner probably would have written about the Olofin's settlement without any mention of Benin. There was clearly some significant change in that place at some point during the 16th century.

JMAN05: John 17:17

Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.

What do you think? Who is that "YOUR" talking about?

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Jesus is the word of God, however, I understand that to mean a title, to show that He acts as God's spokesperson just like Presidents do have a spokesperson. In other words, that Jesus is the word of God doesnt mean he is the literal word of God.

What do you think?

Lordlexyy: The life of God express in a man. Or divinity walking in humanity. Or the nature, image and righteousness of God manifest in a man that makes him a god.

italo: You cant make a sensible conversation without resorting to insults.

italo: Says who?

Joshthefirst: so how are you noot believing a lie?

Emusan: 1. The very first point you need to know here is how God begins to walk with man after the FALLING of the first man-Adam.
Before God called Abraham God Himself has this testimony about him(Abraham) "For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, [size=14]and they shall keep the way of the Lord....,[/size] Gen 18:19

Why God call somebody like Noah, Abraham? The answer is, is to fulfilled the promise He made when He curse Devil Gen 3:15.

Both Noah, Abraham, Moses, David were chosen for the promise to be fulfuilled and Moses, David, and past prophets were both foresee the coming of Jesus, His birth, death & resurrection. They all saw the glory of Jesus before they died.

That's why when Jesus died He has to go and preached to those who have died in disobedient starting from the flood of Noah till date for those who didn't know Him 1 Peter 2:18-19
Jesus Himself confirmed that before Abraham exists He Has been in existence.



2. Through prayer to God and with the help of the Holy spirit since I have known Him.



3. Is believing and learning the same? The question should be what did I learn?



4. What I want to make clearer to you for bring out this is that, if Jesus promised all those who believed in Him something and you find out the thing is true...then you should that whatever He says it will surely come to pass.

5. As for muslim, none of them can claim they have ever feel the presence of God, see vision, or God spoke to them. They only believe Quran is the word of God that you need to follow.

6. You may say I'm deluded but it's a testimony of myself "God has visited me personally twice in my room" that's I said seek God personally!

Shalom!

tddavid: Tayo, can I say something 2u? pls don't take it personal.

I believe d root cause of arguments and conflicts and strifes between Christains & Muslims is d fight that Christains worship Jesus & dat it is wrong that 1. there is only one God & Him only should we all worship! ...

I don't want to give u reasons or "whys" why. But one thing I want u to do anytime you are alone.

I believe you pray to God? Ok. Since u pray to God (I am not talking about Jesus or Holy spirit or any of the prophets). 2. Have you ever hear Him talk to you before? If not, you can ask Him (God) to open your spiritual ears so you can hear whenever He speaks. If yes, (that u hear God speak to you & u recognises His voice, for there are 3 kinds of voices: Gods voice, ur spirit mans voice and d voice of satan, so you must recognise His voice when He speaks)

3. So, ask Him, say, "God can You tell me, show me or reveal to me the right way to make it to heaven? (aljana)" I mean, when you're praying to God on ur praying mat. Ask Him once, twice, thrice, fourth time & maybe fifth time even more times till you hear Him tell you or give you an answer.

Whenever the answer comes u will know, 4. He might tell you through your dream at night or through a vision. One way or another He'll show or tell or reveal to you your very answer. Once the answer is given to u, you now have one power at your disposal that determines a lot of things. Your power of choice or decision making. God will always respect that power of man always.

There is another part to this practical. You can choose not to practice what I have suggested to you, u can decide to ignore it and keep basing your facts and arguments on histories, facts or even the Koran. Don't hear me wrong, there is absolutely nothing wrong with these, but if you claim to know God you should be able to interact with Him. I can assure you all your bogging questions will be readily answered by the God Whom u serve.

Pls, I am not trying to convince you, neither am I trying to turn you away from your faith, but 5. I want you to experience the voice of God. If u have heared Him speak before, you will always want to hear Him again and again.

Another thing. You can also choose to be lazy. You can choose not to pray, it's your choice.

6. My point however is, either you are a Muslim or a Christain or an unbeliver, if you believe God exists and you believe in Him (i.e. God, not Jesus or Holy Spirit, leave them out of the picture), you have what is called FULL access to Him through one means only. Prayer. You can pray in any fashion you deam fit, so far u pray with your spirit, with a strong desire to want to know the truth about which way is the way to heaven or any other question bothering ur mind. You will be able to narrate your experince with God not (Jesus or the prophets) even if you do not have a pinch of a Koran or Bible verse in your brain.

I greatly hope u take this important step.
PS. 8. Kindly let me know if u got any answer 4m God.

Cheers!

vickyO: I've asked and searched, I believe it's the Word of God.

MacLovington: .

Well that's my personal family history. I am not speaking for all Edo people. In the same way there are very many people of dual tribal origins all over Naija. Only that due to tribalism, people just aren't comfortable enough to admit or they just don't know their family history well enough.

No doubts that there were waves of migrants from Benin throughout history, some are beyond the borders of Nigeria today such as Togo, Osu area of Ghana (the Ga people), Republic of Benin and of course within Naija like Delta, Ondo, Bayelsa, Lagos Island, etc.

I even read an interview by Late Dim Ojukwu in which he said some Onitsha people regard themselves as coming from Benin.

vickyO: I've asked and searched, I believe it's the Word of God.

Mintayo: Muslims stop worshipping a moon god,stop circling some pagan hills...stop stoning the devil(d devil is a spirit,i am sure he laffs at ur ignorance).
Stop circling a pagan kabba, stop revering an arab man who is a padophile, a rap.ist,an armed robber, an epileptic, a cheat(who married is adopted son's wife), a lie, a thief...a word is enouh for the wise.
Instead be renewed and accept salvation tru Christ Jesus..

MetaPhysical: Obalufon,

C'mon! Lets be matured and respectful, please.
We are all passionate about our land and its past heroes and founders, we show the love the best way we know, you are no more loving Oduduwa and Yoruba than Katsumoto, let's be mindful of the flaming tongue and restrain the ego. Please brother.

italo: The work of God.

The Bible of Mohammed's time I exactly the same as the one I hold in my hand right now.

If you say it isnt, provide Mohammed's Bible. Let us compare.

stan4b: All I know is,Jesus is a Son of God.

I want u guys to make a deduction for me pls.
The Children of God,are Gods.
Jesus Christ is a Son of God.

Then is Jesus a God or Not.

OLAADEGBU: Science and prophecy supports and confirms my "myth" as being true and certain, can the same be said about yours?

slye: God..... give us a proof for your statement that i was wrong. Simple! stop playing smart here.
Or is there hadith that made mention of it ? After those two book of reference of Muslims. The rest re myth and lies!
Thanks

OLAADEGBU: I produced my evidence and you can only dispute it with concrete evidence not with emotional outbursts that doesn't change anything.

Moukafoam: now I know that what they said is true. For Seun to have hidden his post means that the Yoruba's are hiding something

MacLovington: .


Lol, he was Asoro.

I was discussing him with my cousin a few years back. My cousin is the second oldest living blood relative of Asoro. There was a bit of embellishment in the shadow shooting story.

Fact is that in our village (Asoro's place) such protective okpor was nothing extra-ordinary. Of course the higher your military position the more the fortification you got. Until Christianity became more widespread in the 1970s.

Even now some of the strongest traditional medicine in Edo state still come from there. Note that "bad/destructive medicine" is strictly forbidden.

As an ancient warrior dukedom/duchy, people there fortified themselves before going to war or embarking on risky journeys.

My great uncle (grand dad's elder brother) escaped death from robbers in Ondo area around 1910 using similar Okpor.

What many people also don't know about Asoro is that he was an Edo n'Ekue/Ado-Akure as Edo-Yoruba hybrid are colloquially called.

Asoro was specifically an Owo-Bini hybrid.

OLAADEGBU: I didn't observe when God made Adam but I do observe the evidence of design. A painting is the evidence of a painter, a building is the evidence of a builder, Creation is the evidence of the Creator.

Genesis chapters 1-11 gives us an account of historical events about the ultimate cause of the universe and how life originated - questions you atheists haven't got a clue about. Through the application of science we can safely confirm that God's the Jews account of creation is true. For instance, GodThe Jews informs us in the account of Genesis chapter 1 that fish, birds plants, animals and every living organism were created after their own kind, And that is exactly what we observe. Dogs only produce dogs, cats only produce cats etc. We can also confirm many other aspects of the Scripture's history in other areas of science such as astronomy and geology.

Joshthefirst: this is a blatant lie. Stop spreading lies here. I have said christianity is more than just religion. Those who practice empty religious practices are shallow. And do not know God.

slye: seriously, I've not come across a Christian that can defend his/her belief. They seem to run away

Emusan: 1. The reason I referred you to that thread is believing evolution is real I.e human evolved from ape-like creature without any purpose and went ahead to say Obatala is the creator of mankind is illogical.



2. Even Bible advised us to ask for wisdom, meaning God doesn't want us to die in ignorance. I love science more than many Athiest on this forum yet I'm still a christian....do you know why? because I have found God beyond written and logic through Jesus Christ. I usually say if not because God manifests Himself to me today I will be one of those attacking any religion too.



3. 100% agree with you
but the word of the creator Himself has done a lot about it.



4. Yeah! But my question is since Eledumare also interact with His creations especially man, why do we carry out unending research by instrument find Him? Why can't we just say ok we only want to know much about our universe but He exists?
Yet when the find out that He exists they deny Him being God...ROM 1:18-20


5. Likewise in Christendom



6. Wonderful, likewise me too.
But to you what can you say about EViL i mean its origin? And do you mean some people will still come back here after their death and on what point/criteral will they come back?


7. I do the samething but just to have clue not to believe on the because I have found the true God.


8. If you know me I will say you won't have said this but not withstanding I'm a type who doesn't live a live base on them say them say if not I would've become like you but I took my time and asked myself, am I not being decieved? But I seek God PERSONALLY and God revealed Himself to me



9. One thing is this, Jesus said those who believe in Him out of their belly will a river of life flows out(which this signifies the Holyspirit). Now if I have the evidence of Holyspirit today, it means Jesus word is always true. so I believe this is one of the things many have seen to made them claim that your statement above.



10. You can do this little exercise tonight, try to be alone around 10-12am when know one will disturb you and begin to reason many way you've sinned against God with a humble heart then ask for forginess in Jesus name after then ask God to fill you with His Holyspirit and see what will happen. Remember you must pour out your mind in a humble way by realising that you're a sinner.

Emusan: This your statement really makes me SHM for you.
You left the true light which is in Christ Jesus entered into a confuse state.

You claim here that Obatala is the creator of mankind yet in one thread where a church to submit apology letter to Dawkins for rejecting evolution....you made it clear that evolution is REAL.
Is this not a total confusion and wrong choice?

Jesus loves you....it's never too late to make a U-turn

Shalom!

harbiola1: 1. What did i tell u the other day? Tribalism Syndrome and u're here to confirm it. Thanks!



2. Modified? by fighting its worshippers and get it burnt to ashes.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Badr - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_Mecca
U knw who u're?


3. Stop making jest of urself bro. God is one in the East or west, Arabia or Yorubaland. The earlier u realised this, the better it is for ursoul.


4. Oh my God! u're even abusing the Divinity of Olodumare by saying one Obatala is the chief god. Do u read this before posting it? Obatala, Orunmila and others are nothing more than vulnerable mortal men which u idolize. don't ever use the word "God" for any of these ur idols again.



5. In ur mind! He cannot create a wool.


6. Which God, Olodumare?
or idol Orunmila, Osun, Sango, Obatala?



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

harbiola1: U lie is unclad.