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The catholics turned Jesus into the Messiah of the world from various pagan deities.

JW have realized some of the pagan attributes but it's still funny that they already got confused and brainwashed to not see that the whole character of Jesus is false.

Only Jews give accurate accounts

I don't really like the idea that Yoruba people have communities in Ghana

Ghana is not our land, we shouldn't migrate and start claiming portions

This bolaino guy seems dubious to me
He has always been pressured to believe in a Godly existence so it's easy to re-convert to christianity.

Wonder why he didn't consider Islam

[quote author=Ijele-igbo]So you mean the bible is incorrect? Because JEHOVAH is in the bible. God has so many names..... JEHOVAH is one of his name and Jehovah witnesses prefer calling him JEHOVAH[/quote]Sure God has many names but when u say God we should understand if u mean Bible God or God of the universe

Uyi Iredia: My (admittedly little) knowledge of it is that it is the 'spirit' of a person which has made its wishes (as to how it wants to live its life on earth) known to Eledumare. The Igbos call it 'chi', my people call it 'ehi'.

I thought "ehi" is the life force=soul, just like "emi" in Yoruba

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]if they represent Gods, then yes.

If they represent kings, soldiers, stories, battle scenes, etc., then they are statues.[/quote]They represent kings and high chiefs

By the time Europeans got to Oyo they found that some Oyo traders could write in Arabic and speak Arabic as well

Oyo katunga probably had a,lot of dealing wit Muslims because a mosque was already built for visitors in the 16th century

Lol So ibos are the true inhabitants of Ile-Ife

U guys just like disturbing Yoruba people, wat concerns Igbo in Moremi's story to the lost Hebrews? aren't they Hebrews again? They now Ifes

This claim can't be taken seriously
It's totally false

Christians need new converts, I don't know why they can't stop trying to re-convert atheist

U guys seem to be doing good wit the efforts but all these are assumptions without facts

Yoruba origin is Ile-Ife simple

Your parents and family elders should show u the way

We need more...might drop some later

alnaijiri: Arab slave? Why? For believing in God? Chances are you have a severe inferiority complex, and probably worships the whites and their materialist, Atheist culture.

One reason Africa is currently backwards compared to other parts of the world, is that, we're not united culturally. There are no dominant cultures spanning a large swath of territory as the case of the Arab world or America or China on this continent south of the Sahara. The more fractured we are culturally and ethnically, the easier we will can be exploited by outsiders.

Believing in God has nothing to do wit Arabs, if u want to believe God go to ur local priest and learn from them in the ways of ur ancestors not far away Arabs.

Inferiority complex do u even know d meaning?
Ori forbids me to worship any man, white or black

We are not united culturally true, but don't start wit Islam wud culturalize us to Arabs for our own good- this is true inferiority complex and insanity

It's just now ur are making small sense
However our land territory has been like this centuries the best way out is to undo wat colonialist have done to Africa, we need to reconstruct our own territories and create our nations of cultural and ethnic similarities

Islam has nothing to offer for development, In middle east and North Africa only UAE and Qatar have been developed nicely the rest are backward and still live on strange old Arabic customs calling it Islamic laws

Ukuts gp: so u want to tell me what i worship now abi? Anyway, we worship the true God and christianity is not any reformed paganism. Christ is the foundation of christianity, anything more than that count me out.

1. Amen is actually symbolic to the Egyptians as the Greeks related it to Amun
2. Sunday worship: Day of Mithra
3. Easter celebration
4. 25th December: Annual festival of Mithra and renewal of the Sun's course(symbolize as Mithra's birth)
5. Sign of the cross: A very important symbol in spiritual practices of Kemet and copied by Romans
6. major points of Jesus life eg virgin mother, wine miracle and after 3days resurrection are taken from Pagan gods- Dionysus and Horus whom the Romans honored before reforming christianity
7. The virgin mother is Isis(mother of Horus), she is the Queen of heaven and mother goddess
8. Trinity: Romans have always been exposed to trinity- Zeus,poseidon,hades to Osiris,Isis,Horus



I might not be completely correct but I have reasons to believe that the Romans just modified their spirituality and added judaic principles to make christianity

CAPTIVATOR: ....#Smiles# Bro...See Dont Deceive urself d History of Adam&Eve is Genuine Fact!!! Anythin Godword said is ALWAYS TRUE(John 17:17) Even recent Experiments&Theories Left Scientist wit No alternative dat to BELIEVE D AUTHENTICITY OF D GENESIS ACCOUNT...GUD DAY!

even if I can take the story seriously it would be from a Jew and not one of these African Jewish slaves.

The Bible is incomplete and doesn't narrate the story properly

ladionline: I don't need to join issues with you, because you are in duel with God and he is in war with you already, "omode soko lu 'roko oun boju weyin, oro pe ojo kan naa loluwere npani" I do not need to share in your reproach. Hold on to your genius.That's the interpretation here:


Romans 1:24-27

English Standard Version (ESV)

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.


And your mode of interpretation is that of the wisest fool. You look for "gainsaying" in whatever pleases you, and your logic is simple: Pride. You can not help yourself either, but "Bible bashing" did not start with you. The more you destroy what belongs to others, the less you know how to construct your own.

There are duality in this world, though I do not want to sound metaphysical, but I know there is pride and there is humility.

With pride is "pride of accusation", and with humility is "humility of correction". What makes the difference? A man ruled by pride can never attain the humility of correction because they can not be corrected. Thus they go accusing people, that's their genius, the world is unfair to them.

But the mind ruled by humility of correction find it easy to learn, they do not have to be right by all means, somebody else can take the glory, because the world does not belong to them and so they honour people who has add value to the world and made it a better place than it ever was.

You are here to contribute your "pride of accusation" and it is what you know how to do best, to accuse the brethren and enforce exactly what you know nothing about. I have been reading your irresponsible comments to creative individuals that think creatively to come up with ideas.

Your popular word is "Shut Up"

That's because analysis of the obvious bedevils you, the devil is in the detail, your wit will fall apart on what you don't know. Don't accuse anyone, this Yoruba cause is too profound for your grasp, your genius can not comprehend it, there is no quotes to contradict or manipulate in anger.

People on board of the Yoruba thread are far wiser than you, after all they were on the cause before you register. But pride would not allow you to learn, your "silly Yoruba" is all sufficient, its like you evolve in Iwo Eleru, or check Wikipedia for more answers.

Have you find answers to your Obatala quest? Just keep saying "Obo ngbobo gokpe" and you will have some revelations. Your ancestors were ghosts and energies. Charles Darwin have the missing link to your ancestry, The Great Ape.

Wats all this And why post it 3 times?

all4naija: Please, stop dwelling in the past why we are talking about the present life we live. You haven't been able to prove to me why African societies are unorganized.

For the simple fact that nothing pronounced that can be point to the black man has done to move humanity forward in the area of development makes matter worse. The inferiority in this case is the inability of Africans to organize themselves and build a better society.

Thank you.

Civilization started in Africa and Africans have played the most important roles in world development

check out from 4000BC till now
It's just the time of Europe to shine

Asia's turn shall come soon and Africa cannot be far behind

Instead of u foolishly condemning ur personality, u should light the dark by improving the little u can.

It's not by mouth to just complain without making an effort or being better

Wat have u ever done to make this backward Africa not seem backward anymore?

Arcsniper: who created man,i thought human evolved from oda organisms.does it means that God didnt create man,or the evolution isn't true.??
Hope you understand my question

Humans evolved from other organisms-our "ape-like" ancestors u have lived for 6million years and we would definitely evolve again. Evolution and expansion is infinite

In Yoruba spirituality, Eledua instructs Obatala to use clay to create life, Obatala forms prototypes and imperfect humans before he gets modern humans though he still creates deformed humans

Fulaman198: That's partially true brother, but look at other African countries with a large Islamic population like Senegal and Mali. Those countries are also very African.

It's a west African thing I guess.

Development is all we need in west Africa and Africa as a whole

And the first step is pride in identity and mental independence.

it's a real pity that the North Africans have lost their identity

Jehovah is an incorrect word

The original is YHWH which people call Yahweh

Jehovah is an error

YHWH means "I am who I am"

Yahweh's original name is El Shaddai- meaning God of mountains

He is not the most high.

The most high in Canaanite spiritually is El Elyon not El Shaddai

Rosike thanks for this

I just realized something

The sacrifice of Jesus is useless because, Yahweh only accepts burnt sacrifice, just was bleeded to death instead

Christians I think when Jesus returns u need to sacrifice him properly

yorubaamerican: OK, so what does the title come with? Is it just prestige?

In the old days, balogun was the title for the commander of the Ibadan army

Glamrock: THANKYOU how would I get in contact with them?? I Would really like info on ancestry and other things of my heritage and culture

www.nairaland.com/odumchi

www.nairaland.com/pagan%20%209ja

This is why Africa can't move forward

Africans believing that some haggard white folks are superior to glorious black individuals

I blame foreign religions as the the biggest factor responsible for this

It's it.

Peter u are lost soul
Keep deceiving urself

That book u quote from is a book written by men not God

Fulaman198: One thing I'm proud of the Hausa people for is their tenacity. I'm Fulani (Pullo) and Hausa is spoken even by a lot of non-Hausa groups like mine as a second language. Hausa people don't have much interest in English (Northerners in general could care less about English even though we can speak and write it). We are far too proud of our traditional cultures to give it up for a foreign language like English. Some cultures need to stop the inferiority complex that thinking being westernised is the way to go.

The love for language and culture in the North is the only reason why u guys have not be arabized.

Thank God for that

DoctorStephen: Wow! Jesus loves you too

Sure that's wat gays do

The Bible God is the leader of demons and not satan