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slye: who knows the origin of Christianity or how dd it started. And besides Christianity is mentioned only three times in the Bible

This is an issue of so many conspiracy, lies and hidden facts.

One thing is certain Christianity is gotten from Judaism/Judaic monotheism, Mithraism and Kemetism

To get the history and origin of christianity is to study the religion of the Jews during Jesus lifetime as well as the Religion of the Romans.
And it's also important to understand the main points of christianity
1. Prophecy of Messiah
2. Birth of Jesus
3. Life and times of Jesus
4. Death and Resurrection

One thing is "Jesus is not the Messiah" says the Jews

His Birth, Death and resurrection is similar to Older pagan Gods

Op you are really insane.

Do u know how christianity was formed?

Do u know the true identify of the God of Christians?

If only you have the right answers you would see why Christians are the most mentality deformed individuals for worshipping a foreign god of such

Because Christians believe the bible doctrines are complete and the only right way.

And when someone reads it, he claims the holy spirit is reading it to him so he can understand.

So when he sees a Christian or Non-Christian having a different understanding he believes the devil is deceiving the other person.

My bro if you are a Christian I pity you

simplynola: Thou Shall not bow for any false god

Yahweh inclusive

Well now we know that the Op is a big liar and a mis-informer

Allah shall have something to say in ur case on judgment day

Oh! Wait Seems the Koran God is actually a liar and a mis-informer so all is well OP. Carry on

Joshthefirst: "christian" is a word used probably in mockery by people regarding the believers in christ in the church at antioch describing their lifestyle as it was similar to Christs lifestyle.

Christ-ian

Lifestyle. Lifestyle. Lifestyle of godliness and righteousness. Most who profess to be christians are not really christians. They profess to know God, but in their works deny him. Being reprobate and abominable.


Christianity is deeper than mere religion.
It is a relionship that radically changes ones lifestyle and makes him repent from sin.

Anyone who has not repented from sin is not a real christian and does not profess christianity.


Some shameless elements claim to have been christians before when they were actually hypocrites practicing empty religion. Don't listen to them. It is not easy to truly know God, and fall away( I do not say it is impossible)

Thank you for your time.
God bless you.

We know christianity from lifestyle.

I have since known that u have mental problems

"christian" whether it means Christ like, worshipers of Christ, righteous ones or people meant for heaven. It doesn't change the fact that Jesus's soul is laughing at you all and would reject many of you(if not all) when the time comes to return to the spiritual realm.

You foolishly say christianity is holiness and righteousness, living like Jesus. How many of you live like Jesus of the Bible?
How many of u are single and not searching?
How many of you fast?
How many of you pray daily?
How many of you have never fought and only got angry once in your lifetime?
How Many of you don't have a transport machine?
How many of you have borrowed a car to use only once in your lifetime?
How many of you have never had Romance with a lady?

Josh if u have not been doing exactly as Jesus did, Hell is waiting for u.

You are the shameless one, I had been in that fraud called a religion(which some fools call irreligion) and you can't compare with my level of Christian faith.

You think because many have realized the lies and secrets of christianity they have not been Christian atol.

It just proves that christianity is for the mentally deformed individuals

rudedough: Just imagine the dirt and diseases. Later they will say the Government didn't provide health care. Some will even give the water to their innocent Children.

Oh I weep for Nigerians. Poverty and the lack of basic education has impeded people's sense of reasoning. This is not funny

People from all over the world would come when the hear this.

It's not only about Nigeria
Just dat these people aren't orderly

Dagoma: Really... to ignorant people.

Ignorant people like u I suppose

Ukuts gp: It means doctors are in problem now cos nobody will patronize them again. Also, that place can be used as tourist attraction to generate revenue for the government. PDP Should act very fast now.

But seriously, this is funny. In this century people can still be this gullible when america is far ahead of us in science and technology we are here still talking about miracle river somewhere. I just shake my head in pity.

Is this not hypocrisy?

Don't u and ur church members hustle for anointing oil and holy water from pastors

[quote author=~Bluetooth]Juju just like magic is scam, stop being deceived ![/quote]I believe magic is real and tho some are scam Osun river is not.

Magic is wat I call unexplained phenomena

When u begin to understand how it works and wat makes it possible with aid of modern science you wouldn't call it magic anymore

Lilimax: Really

Yes

Do u know that thousands of people come from other parts of the world during Osun festivals and take the water wit them

harbiola1: Read these and stop spew what u don't knw about Islam : http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Khuza'a - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanif -


Honestly if i'm the only person seeing this ur post i wouldn't have bothered myself, but many innocent people are there and they're the one am doing it for.

You that called urself a traditionalist don't even knw the essence of moon. B4 gregorian/hijra calendars what did our fathers use to reckon time, day, month, year? and i think they're worshiping that object by using it.

And i think madam is using Gregorian calendar which may be 28, 30 and 31 to time her period.



U must have seen this in my posts b4 bt u decide to ignore all my references and keep saying lie. Yet u'll be saying tradition is good, is this what is good about it?

Those links have little to do wit this thread.

Abraham left Naana for El Shaddai

Naana is equivalent/a counterpart to Hubal same God known as Allah.

Total submission to God is wat I also practice: Total submission to Orunmila

Because u have total submission to Allah doesn't make u more holy, or on a higher spiritual level.

True in ancient Yoruba times, astronomy was used to reckon time.

But And yes the moon was worshipped by those studying the moon God
Moon worship has stopped now in yorubaland.
Just like how people who use Iron to work worship the Iron God

You want to try moving this away from Islam by protecting Mohammed and hiding the true identify/personification of Allah

Why do u muslims use the moon to set your festivals?

Why do u use the crescent symbol on mosques and Islamic flags?

[quote author=~Bluetooth]Too many mo'R'ons in eastern Nigeria. What's the evidence to show that the water has healing powers ? Who has been healed ? It's just another scam akin to the Osun river.

Stu_pidity at its peak ![/quote]Osun river is not a scam

I have tested it myself

It works with faith

No matter how little the faith. Osun would heal you

Nice, there's nothing like the free gift of the Gods

But they should be orderly

bolaino: @uyi, deep down inside u, u know that hell and heaven is real, listen to your heart and listen to your elders, they know better,

Ur comments are always full of hypocrisy and uselessness.

Do u listen to ur elders? Do u listen to ur ancestors?

u talking about knowing heaven and hell is real, have u been there?

tobechi20: I see them as strong people who have opted to make a decision without being influenced by their majority and environment.

Their decision could be wrong. Both the will power is there.

If they change to another and another,i see them as confused

Or haven't found the enlightenment their consciousness hungers for

Katsumoto: Do not confuse religion with history. History requires evidence; faith doesn't. One can be a Muslim/Xtian and still be a traditionalist. It is a personal choice. In debates about Yoruba history, or any kind of history, it is best to put religion aside. Even if you are a pagan. Religion corrupts your analyses. It is for this reason that I do not think of my religion when discussing history. A discussion about the history of Yoruba spirituality is another subject entirely.

When discussing Yoruba history, Yoruba spirituality is an important aspect.

You know why u can never know Yoruba history properly without assumptions and errors is because u are not a complete Yoruba.

Yoruba history, spirituality, philosophy and Traditions are embedded in Ifa.

So to understand Yoruba history properly is to understand Ifa

alexleo: You are the one lying. Quit deceiving yourself with your feel-good lies.

So u believe hell because some old deluded men told u so

Smh for u

Instead of u thinking of developing ur soul u are here fearing for hell

Joshthefirst: nope. You're wrong. Even abraham did not do everything completely right in Gods eyes. Stop believeing and assuming what you want to believe because it suits you. Stop believeing carefully concocted falasies and fantasies. Believe the reality of truth.

Oya give a list of things lot did that Bible God punished him for

Joshthefirst: just because its recorded does not mean God cordones it.

Lot was a holy man that was blessed by God

Everything he did in the Bible was condone by the Bible God

The Islam God is different from the Judeo-Christian God

Allah has been worshipped in Arabia as a pagan God for centuries before Mohammed was born.

In pre-Islamic Arabia, They recognized 360 Gods and Hubal was the chief, head of the pantheon.

Hubal in Arabian region is same as Naana-Suen in Mesopotamian region which is just next door

All proof points that Abraham was born in Ur kasdim/Ur of Chaldean.

Ur was a nation in the Mesopotamian ethnic region that was devoted to Naana.

Both Naana and Hubal are lunar gods in control of the moon and are credited with the creation of earth and all mankind.

Mohammed was born into a family devoted to Hubal, his grandfather used the Hubal oracle often.
Hubal was also the patron God of Mecca and had his idol among the 360 idols in the kabba.

The word "Allah" Al Ilah means The God and can be used to refer to any God in a sentence but it is mostly used to refer to the most high God much like "El" in Canaanite spirituality.

None was higher than hubal in Arabian spirituality and his cults were very devoted to him hence the name Allah was attached to him.

Mohammed's father bared the name Abdullah/Abdul-Allah meaning servant of Allah. We all know Mohamed's family were pagans and it's logical to assume that Allah refers to Hubal.

Islam's use of a lunar calendar, the crescent symbol and many more points that their God is connected to the moon.
Hubal is that God, the same greatest, most high God of Pre-Islamic Arabia.
Hubal is that God, the same God of the moon, whose servants studied the moon as Muslims do for festivals.

Mohamed was influenced by the Israelis who had successfully created a monotheistic religion and proclaimed their national God as God of all.
Mohammed only did same by proclaiming his Countries God as the only God.
I have no problem with Islam but I believe non-Arabs shouldn't be muslims, it is slavery and mental dependence.

Mohammed did everything possible to expel the worship of all other Gods and modified the cults and worship of Hubal.
Allah is the supreme God truly but he is an Arab pagan God, and I don't see why non-Arabs worship in the name and beliefs of Arabs.

In Yoruba spirituality, the chief God and head of the pantheon is Obatala but with a twist as Eledumare is the real King of the universe but letting Obatala oversee the universe on his behalf.

Obatala is the creator of mankind and is credited with many aspects of creation.

Yorubas should worship their own God instead of An Arab God.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubal
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obatala
http://oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/http://listofdeities/nannasuen/propheticnews.net/content/view/5629/67/
www.answering-islam.org/Resources/Morey/allah.html

I advise muslims to ask questions and research instead of living in ignorance and limited knowledge with pride.

I know the Koran prefers faith and total submission without questions or outside knowledge but I say the Koran is wrong there, because there are things humans gain from asking questions and researching.

person were dey ask question no dey miss road

Religion's role is not to promote peace

Have u ever heard of God of peace? But there's God of war and Islam's God seems like one

[quote author=Manhunter™]Nonsense, they deleted my first ever thread but I'm not going to complain, I'll just make new ones.
In this thread, I'm going to be comparing and pitting against two of our favorite storybook characters, Jesus and Superman.

SIMILARITIES
* They both claim to be not of this earth but both have Caucasian features
* They both suffer from messiah complex
* They were both sent by their fathers on a mission
* Both of them can fly
* They have both come back from the dead.
* They both have an insanely powerful being as a villain.
* and they are both part of a trinity

SCENARIO
Superman is transported to an alternate timeline in the past by the 4th dimensional imp, Mr Mxyptlk. In the past, he meets Jesus destroying the synagogue.

CONVERSATION
Superman: hey man in ugly looking garment, why are you wrecking the building and constituting a nuisance?
Jesus: who art thou? i know thee not! get away from me thou servant of the devil!
Superman: the devil? i am no servant of the devil but whoever you think you are, you have to stop destroying people's wares and means of livelihood.
Jesus: I am the son of the most high dog..... sorry god and this here is my father's house. It is not a place for thieves and robbers.
Superman: these men just look like honest business men and......
Jesus: shut up! thou art surely a liar like your father the devil. I have been sent to save these people from their sins
Superman: well, how are you planning on doing that and what makes you think they'll listen to you with such anger you are displaying?
Jesus: it is written, thou shalt not question the lord your dog..... why do i keep doing that? sorry, i meant god.
Superman: I asked you the question not dog..... god.
Jesus: well, i am god
Superman: you can't be son of god and god at the same time, it's not..........
Jesus: You can't understand things of the spirit, you are but a mere man dressed in an ugly costume
Superman: you dare mock my costume? even Darkseid wouldn't dare.
Jesus: I do not fear you for i am the way the truth and the light, no one.....

*BOOM*
(a punch by superman sends Jesus flying halfway across the world)
*BANG* *BADABANG*
(more punches from superman disfigures Jesus' face)

Jesus: father forgive him for he knows not what he does.
Superman: that should teach you not to mess with me.
Jesus: *coughs* father *coughs* father *coughs* why have thou forsaken me?[/quote]Epic

Welldone. So creative

waiting for Yahweh vs superman

Ukuts gp: the bible is the true word of God and i believe

DC comics is the true thoughts of God and you should believe it too

truthislight: Are you so confused ?

You just said that Jah = Jah from Eli-Jah above.

How inconsistent can you be ?

Smh for infants.

I said Jah = Yah not Jah = Jah

Elijah's real name was probably Eliyah or Eliyahu [i]can't be sure tho[i]

Have u seen wat happened to Jesus's name? His real name is Yahshua(Yahweh's salvation) or Yeshua
The Jews don't write their vowels so letters of "a, e, i, o, u" sounds are always missing.

And the Greek and Latin writing was very different because vowels give meaning to written words.

I wasn't there but it's logical to assume that the translators of Hebrew Bible to Greek used "I" looking letter for sounds of "Y" : Yah would be written like "Iah". and Latin writers assumed it as "J"
I have seen where Jehovah is written as Ieovah.
Do u know that "J" is silent in Spanish?
"Jesus" is pronounced as "E-su-s" in Spanish.

The name of Elijah isn't pronounced that way in Hebrew.

And as I posted before "I" in Greek is "J" in English for the pronunciation of "Y" in Hebrew.

That's how Eliyah is written as Elijah in English text.

God is doesn't have a physical appearance all these stories u read in the Bible of God talking to people, appearing to people is done through Oracles.

Abraham used Oracles to communicate with El Shaddai.

this gods are not animate and don't have organic features.

Gods are forces of nature, just that in order to understand these forces. Humans gave them personification.

when u hear Sango is God of lightening, it doesn't mean Sango the 3rd king of Oyo, it means Sango the Yoruba name for the force of lightening.

Same applies to Yahweh
Yahweh/El Shaddai is God of mountains but has been erroneously referred to as only God of the universe.

He is just the personified figure of mountains and their role in The world as part of Nature.

No God as ever and would ever appear to Man.
Anyone who tells u he saw God face to face is either a bloody liar or a deluded individual.

zinaunreal: Are u saying that he can't or we are just living organisms that became evolved by fluke with no form of origin or direction?

I think God should show himself before judgment day because there is a massive line between the old testament and the present day. Those stories in the holy books now seem more like fairy tales of unreal supernatural manifestations.

God shouldn't just blow a trumpet n say I told you so.... When did he tell us so? From a book? Just imagine you getting born into a world as a newbie and someone shoves religion in your face telling you that you must believe in it and just have faith , with no proof whatsoever.

It can only get worse I believe.

You have started to question wat u have been forced to believe while growing up.
And now you hunger for the truth

The next step is to grow in consciousness and find ur peace, you would gain a lot by reading through other religious views and also irreligious views.
I advise u look into ur ancestral spirituality, a lot of knowledge is embedded in pagan spiritualities.

It's important for humans to know the truth, our souls cannot develop on lies.

God is doesn't have a physical appearance all these stories u read in the Bible of God talking to people, appearing to people is done through Oracles.

Abraham used Oracles to communicate with El Shaddai.

this gods are not animate and don't have organic features.

Gods are forces of nature, just that in order to understand these forces. Humans gave them personification.

when u hear Sango is God of lightening, it doesn't mean Sango the 3rd king of Oyo, it means Sango the Yoruba name for the force of lightening.

Same applies to Yahweh
Yahweh/El Shaddai is God of mountains but has been erroneously referred to as only God of the universe.

He is just the personified figure of mountains and their role in The world as part of Nature.

No God as ever and would ever appear to Man.
Anyone who tells u he saw God face to face is either a bloody liar or a deluded individual.

False Op

Do u know how many people the Bible God as killed in an instant?

Do u call Sodom and Gomorrah patient killing?

But as Ifeness as said u should tell us which God u are referring to because the gods of the Bible are many. Tell us the name of the God and wat he is most known act.

Christians shouldn't get married because Jesus didn't marry in the Bible.

Christians should act like Jesus

Alfa Seltzer: If I tell my child that Yahweh does not exist, some will call that wrong doing (sin). Many people will disagree that it is wrong doing. So we do not have a clear definition of what wrong-doing is.

Kissing and caressing my grilfriend is no wrong doing. Many religious people will disagree.

Perfect. Sin is wat the society and wat certain people don't subscribe to