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vickyO: Catholics are just so tough to convince, they believe their mode of worship is impeccable which is not. I believe they're operating on a faulty doctrinal foundation. When Jesus taught the disciples how to pray, He never mentioned Mary or the prophets or the saints. no where under the new covenant are we asked to use aids or carve images or worship dead creatures. Given the example of Joshua, that was in the OT, the old covenant, you better drop it an embrace the new cause they are totally different. you cant pour new wine into an old wine skin and vice versa, the result you all know. Some say the rosary causes miracles to happen, I had a friend who said, "you don't know how many times the rosary has saved me", such heretical belief causes me to wonder. they also claim Mary helps deliver their messages to Jesus, deceit at its peak. and when pastors pray for us, they intercede which is fully backed by the Bible. And the images they make is just out of it, what then makes Christians different from idolatrous heathens?

If you read the history of the catholic church and the Roman religion before christianity you would understand why catholics are like this.

You should also know that The Romans formed Christianity. Catholism might not be the true christianity (in my opinion JW are closer to Christian doctrines than others) but they made christianity wat it is today. When you talk christianity you talk catholism.

The pentecostal churches were revived just recently but pentecostal churches aren't true christianity either, they practice judaism in the mix.

The whole idea of modern christianity was created by Romans when they saw how the disciples of Jesus worshipped him as their Messiah.
The Romans killed all the people that knew the truth about Jesus and formed a new kind of christianity, edited the Bible and killed those who didn't believe them.

Catholism is a modified version of Mithraism.
But recently, when the catholic church began to loose power, many Christians began to make other kinds of christianity according to their understanding of the Bible.

The problem is that the early Christian fathers didn't edit the Bible properly, their lies is catching up with them.

italo: I am proud that you hate Catholics. That is a confirmation of my faith.

Light and dark cannot mix.

Catholics are the dark one

JMAN05: If you worship another person while worshipping God, is it not idolatry? do the scriptures support worshipping anything wether you call it subordinate worship or not?

Chai!.see illiterate o
In Spirituality Idolatry is honoring a craven image.

Otherwise Idolatry is admiring an important figure.

The so-called scriptures was written by men as it suited them. Torah by Moses New testament edited by the Vatican.
How hypocritical of Catholics to be involved in idolatry when they demonized ATR for idolatry.

Hypocrites

italo: If we were pagans like you, you wouldn't be against us.

The reason you are against us is that light and darkness cannot mix.

Thr same way catholics and non catholics are against each other despite being the same religion is because light and darkness cannot meet

JMAN05: True Christians worship with spirit and truth, not with any aid. I dont know whether you guys are still under the mosaic law. Any aid the jews used at that time was God's instruction. God provided it not humans. but now worship of God is not done that way.

Africans have never been under the mosaic law

this OP is a fool.
Halloween for the devil
So wat is Christmas?

abitex577: You can know a lot of pastors who are fake but not all pastors are fake, their are genuine and sincere and true pastors, over the years we have seen the fruits they bear and the Bible says by their fruits you shall know them. Sorry to disappoint you, Apostle JOHNSON SULEMAN is just one of the many genuine, sincere MEN FROM GOD!!!

All Christian leaders are fake. From the pope down to all pentecost evangelists

Mr Troll: Yes yes. And movies where they kiss too. Premarital kissing is also sin.

So let's see...no romantic movies, no action movies, no 'enchantment' movies. Er...wetin go remain?

Na to dey watch news o

Darth Veda's minions.

Arcsniper: What if during the incarnation 'process'(i guess u understand wat i meant)
*1.ur body on earth was destroyed.
Where is that spirit goin to?

*2.after you have complete ur mission on earth,and died at the appropriate time,will you ever come back to earth?

Pleas answer those questions b4 i go and sleep

1. Once the body is destroyed you die and go back to heaven, re-do the reincarnation process.

2. In most cases(if not all) yes!.

wonderlander: @Arcsniper we should not worry about reincarnation.our mission is to better ourselves to be fit for heaven
although God is love and he loves even adolf hitler dearly,but if adolf hitler rejects God by doing evil against God's will,when he dies his transcendence into the after life will be different than seeing any light.basically you will reap what you lived in this life which is rejection of God.
God can rescue you from hell if you call out to him genuinely,i guarantee you would.God wants us in his kingdom he doesn't want anyone to go hell,it hurts him when humans keep hurting one another and doing evil. God loves us all even Adolf Hitler.we are one,if i kill you i kill myself,if i love you i love myself.I forgive Adolf Hitler he was just ignorant but if he does not regret his wrong doing then he is not aligned with my forgiveness.
most humans are good or at least mediumly satisfactory.thats why majority of NDE is the LIGHT.God knows we cant be perfect in this world,he only cares about how much you atleast try.God loves everyone dearly and even when you go astray he has a way of bringing you back.first he will make you experience what its like without his love (HELL,DARKNESS) but you will call on him and he'll save you.
If Your physical body is destroyed then you can be sent back to start as a baby,like i said previously its left for God to decide whats best for you.do not worry about anything.if tommorow is your death day there'll be nothing you can do about it.just trust in the lord and try to do his will.its hard but its all about trying.if you cant help someone atleast dont hurt them.

Are you a confused individual?

wonderlander: it marvels my heart why people hate Jesus so much and say that he doest exist.yet they do not argue or hate mohammed and buddha.
human beings are i.diots.

No one hates Jesus(except the Jews)
Mohammed is a criminal and Islam is fraud
Buddha was sincere, and wise. No one can have anything against him.

MamiWata: Paganism has absolutely nothing to do with Africa being "left behind." Pagan beliefs are a part of Abrahamic religions as well (Christmas, the story of Jesus, etc.). No group of people has completely disregarded their ancestors the way you'd like Africans to disregard ours. Muslims need to wake up to the idea of women being full human beings before you start worrying about the harm that paganism is doing to Africa. Muslim societies consistently rank at the bottom of all indices with regard to women's well-being. You will never succeed when you undervalue 50% of your population. Islam is 100% compatible with women's continued voicelessness which is why it thrives in countries that treat women like grass to be stepped on and mowed. Many pagan spiritualities, however, value balance. Women's voices and power is part of that balance. And that is just one of the many ways that our ways are healthier than yours. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Niger, and Somalia are awful places where the world can see what happens when Islam is at work. By the way did they ever pass that Nigerian law to allow your filthy men to marry 9 year old girls?

No they didn't.
Muslims in this country especially the ones in the north are too brainwashed into this Islam, that's why they are the least developed part of Nigeria. That's wat happens when you let a book think for you.

alnaijiri: On a per-capita basis, the scientific output of India is minimal. But even if there are the occasional bright spots from the Hindus, their society is unfit for human life; poverty in India outpaces that of Africa, cruelty and injustice abounds in that pagan eyesore.

For centuries now, the so-called "Muslim World" has abandoned the proper scholarship of Islamic jurisprudence. That's why I'm calling for a renaissance for Islam. The ones that are calling for terrorism in the name of jihad are not properly educated according to the thousand-year tradition of Islamic scholarship and decision-making. Back when Islam was properly applied (Golden Age of Islam), the Islamic Nation led the world in scientific, economic, and social innovations.



Africans are for the most part pagans, even those who say they're Xian or Muslims. Dependence on magic and superstition as well as a complete disregard for reasoning and scholarship are what paganism has been about, and those things are still what African Xianity or Islam is about today. African religion is African paganism with different names for the deities. At least for the most part Westerners aren't pagans in this sense of the word. They may be shamelessly hedonists, but they're not overly superstitious and do take initiative (effective ones, not juju) to make changes to better their lot.

Paganism is the part of the African mentality that has been keeping us behind as a continent. The light of Islam is needed here, nothing else can shine the light so we can stop groping in the dark.

Mental fool.

Islam is evil.

[quote author=Nigellus_Hosan]As A Christian..
I wouldn't reply U..
Instead I'll say Father Forgive them for they know not what they do..

I am not A Catholic..
I am a Protestant..

And Protestants Where the first Christians..
Even before The day of Pentecost There were Christians..

And Even before The Catholic Church existed there were Pentecostal Christians Who believed in The Holy spirit been Our comforter..

Mr get ur facts right..
U make it Seem like The Disciples Of Jesus were Romans..[/quote]the disciples of Jesus worshipped him as the Messiah like many people worshipped other false Messiah.
The Romans thought of how convenient it was to transform this false Messiah into the Messiah of the world, in order to acquire such political power that military couldn't provide.
They killed of all those that knew the truth.
They killed of those that refused to believe them.

Ajibam: Exodus 3:14
I AM WHO I AM...

that's my own God...
and yours

So that's Yahweh; God of the Jews

Mine is Olodumare; supreme God of the universe

Arcsniper: [size=18pt]There is God.
There is hell.
There is heaven.
Nothing like reincarnation.
Jesus is the way,the truth and the light.
There is Satan. #stamped
those of you that i asked for your usernames, i really need it please[/size]

There's God
There's no hell
There's heaven there's no satan
And there's reincarnation

wonderlander: for all of you who think theres no hell or satan or evil,just go ahead and kill,steal,fornicate,adulterate etc,dont worry you will go to heaven once you die .you are a powerful spirit being right? all you have to do in the spirit realm is imagine anything you want and its there right? God can be mocked right?
dont worry its that easy.adolf hitler will just be patted on the back for being a naughty boy and then reincarnate immediately.
goodluck

Moses,wasn't better than Hitler.

Moses killed just as much

He was probably Hitlers role model

Arcsniper: Satan is not lucifer??

Yes. Reasons:
1. Isaiah 14:12 was the Bible verse that used that word. "Lucifer" is a Latin word meaning-morning star, Do u think a Jewish man who only knew Hebrew and probably Aramaic could have used a Latin word? All translation errors
2. The Jews don't have the same view of satan
3. I have gone through the whole chapter of Isaiah 14, "Lucifer" there was referring to a Babylonian king who wanted to be so Great that he would make his kingdom above the sky
4. No where else in the Bible supports the claim that satan is Lucifer.
5. Technically Jesus can also be called "Lucifer". Revelations 22:16. Jesus is referred to as "bright morning star"

Arcsniper: church of Satan is real. Who are those guys worshiping?.certainly,they are not worshiping God.they are worshiping Satan aka lucifer. And everything they do,they are endorsing Satan.some even sell their souls to the devil

Sorry to say but the bolded is false

obadiah777: what religion is that ? amadioha worshipping ?

Yoruba traditional religion aka Ifa Orisha worship.

Amadioha worshipping is not a religion, only part of a religion

Joshthefirst: christians are accountable for their actions to God, just like everyone(including you) is. Everyone will give account to God.
Anyone who blames satan for his sin is foolish. Man is a free moral agent.

Take a judge for example, if you're found guilty of commiting a crime, say stealing, will you say to the judge(let's call him stevens)
"Come on judge stevens, I just washed your car"
Or
"Come on judge stevens, I just built you a house" ?

No, that will be bribe, and a good judge will not be bribed and will ebven punish you more for insulting his integrity.

God is a good judge, he cannopt be bribed. You cannot pay for your evil deeds with good deeds. That would be trying to bribe God. Self-righteousness is like a filthy rag before him.

Pls feed this story to the birds

alnaijiri: In the modern age, they have abandoned their religions and look where their society is now. Lack of morality throughout. Low birthrates. Population replacement by immigrants in their own lands.

Who says? Immorality is everywhere
They might not be as respectful and loving towards culture as some Africans but we are not morally better than them

Arcsniper: now i believe you guys telling lies.
How about those secrets cults,those old winchy,winchy woman, CHURCH OF SATAN??

Lol church of satan? I don't know much About that.
However, the Jews originally view satan as a member of the council in heaven, A servant to Yahweh. Unlike christianity that calls satan the bringer of evil, the rebellious angel, the king of demons etc. in judaism satan is less evil and has a lot of importance in human lives. So if some folks that this Jewish doctrine to form a separate religion it's nt that bad, cause christianity was formed in such bases too

Radoillo: Wow... Ok, I've heard a lot about reincarnation, but I never met anyone who could remember anything from a previous life. If you don't mind my asking, are you a Christian?

(If it makes it easy for you to be honest I'm kind of an agnostic. )

I don't think he is a Christian
He's too enlightened to be a Christian

Arcsniper: For those people that believe near-dearth experience. Do you believe their is SATAN?

Satan is a character created by the early church leaders.

It doesn't exist

bigfrancis21: [b]

It is because of attitudes like these and people that paraded reasoning such as this that made the early church fathers to delete the theory of reincarnation from the church's teachings and edit out all references of reincarnation from the bible.

They discovered that preaching the theology of coming back to earth after a current life time to correct one's wrong made people to be lazy about life and not take it serious. People started feeling that they'd do all manner of things they wanted since they'd still come back again. 'Let us then use this lifetime to do as we want, live life to the fullest of the pleasures of the body, when we come back again we'll live right'. Many people started to not take life seriously as an opportunity for spiritual evolution, soul growth and escaping the cycle of death and rebirth. The church fathers found it convenient to delete all sources of reincarnation and propagate the 'theory' of a one-time-only life time and the promise of a 'hell fire' for those who live 'wrong', thus instilling fear in the minds of the populace and making them to take life seriously.

That hell fire doesn't exist doesn't give you free reins to do as you like. The law of karma is very active and ensures that the universal law of justice is kept and carried out. The excessive wrongs you accumulate in this lifetime, you will pay for all of them in the next lifetime or in many lifetimes depending on the magnitude of your wrongdoings. Injustice must be paid for. Have you ever wondered why certain people are born with pitiable unimaginable deformities from birth? Or why certain people suffer from incurable diseases for their whole life time or a great part of it? You are only human and blinded for you only see the current life form. You don't know the soul history of that soul and what prompted his incarnation into a body of deformity. For many cases, it is a way of balancing off of wrongdoings done in the past.

However, it is not all physically disabled persons that are paying off karma. In some many situations and from the soul level, being born into a body of physical difficulties always proves to be a good opportunity to learn certain life lessons. Life lessons such as humility, detachment from worldly things, compassion, etc - life lessons that some souls would find very difficult to learn if they keep incarnating into bodies of easy lifetimes. On the other side and in our soul existence, easy lifetimes on earth are looked down and 'difficult' ones are preferred because they help to focus the inhabiting soul on the important things and lessons of life, which when given easy lifetimes we forget to realize and learn and get carried away instead by the lures and vanities of life. Such 'difficult' lifetimes helps to hasten sould growth and ensure fast graduation from the cycle of death and rebirth. [/b]

God bless you

Joshthefirst: of course it will. It bothers me even now, that's why I pray. I'm even bothered by you, who I do not even know, who has been decieved intricately by the devil to deny reality and mock God.


Another terrible conclusion. Yes God knows those who are his, he knows those who will actually finally end up in hell becvause of unrepentance, but he shows his love by patience and faithful chances he gives each person to repent, otherwise he is not a just God.


What father and creator would not want the eternal wellbeing of his lost child? Would not try to reach out to the child with everything he has?
But be careful, his existence does not depend on you.


you are an extremely dry joker.

Answer the guy
Who's ur God?
Allah? Yahweh? Olodumare? Brahma? Chineke? El? Ubangiji? Uranus? Odin?

Joshthefirst: all humans are imperfect and all humans must pay for their imperfection and sins. The very fact that you have a conscience and morals shows that there is an absolute moral law and an absolute moral lawgiver and God.
No one is righteous. Christians have seen that their sins have made them guilty before this lawgiver, and they have embraced the way of escape: Jesus Christ.
Through Jesus, we have become the righteousness of God in Christ.

2 corinthians 5: 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Christians are never accountable for their actions.

They blame satan for making them sin
And pray to Jesus to talk away the sin

We pagans are very accountable for our actions
When we go against our conscience, we seek for a way to prevent that deed from affecting our Ori, usually by doing a Great good

Rossikk: ^^^ Educate yourself before trying to educate others.

Was this intended to offend me

Arcsniper: yes,i can do that
if you don't obey instructions,and i have warned you about hell fire,since i have warned you and and you refuse to obey,then you face the consequence.
You shouldn't have asked such question,cos I might b the cruel type.

so now that my answer is YES, that means,you and op are telling lies??

That means you are not loving, or kind

If we use this to describe ur God then he is cruel not love

Then the Bible is a lie