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912:
What's between your legs doesn't make you a good wife. Just because someone is an old virgin doesn't guarantee maturity or character.
People tend to think virginity adds to character or manners, it does not. It only means you haven't had sex that's all. Nothing more. It most certainly cannot determine if you will make a good wife or if your husband will respect you. It's your character that determines that

Nobody is saying being a virgin adds to character.

Being a virgin is a show of good character, one must have good character and self discipline. It is weak women that sleep around, a strong woman would never allow herself be used

XhosaNostra:
Good for you. Pray that he'll be faithful to you afterwards. Being a virgin doesn't = to preferential treatment or immunity. You'll still face the same marital struggles that a whòre does.

lies!

PreyeIjo:
You have no ancestor anywhere in Edo , stop disgracing ur self and ur already battered tribe

Have some class jeez tufia!!

I see you lack basic comprehension skills. Typical for a buffoon

Unfortunately for you I have no tribe. My people are not organized in tribes

PreyeIjo:
Claw face skull miner you gave nothing and have nothing but bastard kings like the fool in Iwo and the even bigger fool in ife

such a disgrace

that modern Yoruba Obas are misbehaving doesn't take away the glory of our ancestors which we extended to Edos

prolog2:
The ooni of ife is a village chairman who got elevated by the british in the colonial era.
The british needed a nobody to turn into somebody, sothat they would have an imposter who would do their bidding to the fullest.
The ooni of ife had a small shrine as palce when the british arrived.
The ooni of ife wasn't even a king, he had relative power in ife village and he was in competition with other ife chiefs.
The guy was never a king. The f*cker is also the first yoruba chief who copied the title Oba. Soon after all other yoruba chiefs followed.
The yoruba also went on to claim that Benin bronzes were actually "ife bronzes".
The yoruba even went forward to claim the one and only true Oba as being a migrant from ife.
Basically, the yoruba just keep claiming anything Edo, while they should really be claiming brazil and dahomey, those are the places where most their ancestors are from.

We claim. What we gave. If you don't like it go and hug wet transformer

PreyeIjo:
[s]=tolufase post=66267114]The arrogant Oba of Lagos finally respect himself by doing the needful.[/quote[/s]]

He greeted the ooni shoulder to shoulder so get of your crippled horse .... Oba of Eko bows to nobody but pays homage to one king alone The Oba of Benin!!

another unfortunate person on nl

Swashy4:
I am from Ugbodu and I am proudly IGBO,PROUDLY Anioma. Yes we migrated from the old oyo empire but time,fate and events today has made us "DELTA IGBOS " as you may choose or Ndi Anioma.

Migration is not peculiar to just ugbodu,it occurred everywhere in the world.

LMAO. Ok says the person who only has 2 posts saying the same thing.

Jobless ode

freakcin:
There is, I assure you. Let's start with females in your family! Sisters, cousins.... You still believe there's nothing like responsible woman?

The problem with guys nowadays is that they obsessed with slay mama's and the really good girls don't appeal to them. Beauty alone is not enough when selecting a partner.

Nothing like a responsible woman. A virgin or at least a decent girl even if she has had sex a few times for love and naivety. I have female friends who are not virgins but have had sex once or twice due to love they had for a guy. Any descent guy will understand but an Olosho is a no no...worthless for a wife

Those guys too are irresponsible. A fool who thinks beauty makes a good wife

freakcin:
Relationship should be based on mutual feelings and understanding not vaginal size. No matter how tight a vagina is, childbirth and age (time) will widen it.

Ignore all those temporal satisfaction and go for someone you truly bond with.

There surgeries that can restore virginity if you got the dough. Guys make ona shine eyes, nor go carry repackaged olosho all in the name of virgin!

let me tell you.. it is difficult to bond with an Olosho

Nothing like a decent responsible woman

Olu317:
I do understand perfectly well. There are about four ideologies that is associated to Lucumi. First, as a friendly form to identify same dialectical people in Cuba,which is termed as friend. Secondly, as a dialect in Cuba.Thirdly, as a ritual language within Anago - Yoruba community in Cuba before being accepted by few amongst other tribes in Cuba,such as Bantu-Congo and Efik people of Nigeria and the rest of non Yorubas outside Cuba and the world. Lastly, as it is related to some slaves exported to Cuba whose ancestry is linked to Lukumi in Igbodumila.

Ancestry linked to Olukumi of Ugbodu? Because you see "Lucumi" and "Olukumi" Lmao. Ok
But what is the evidence to back up your claims?

bigfrancis21:
You see sometimes the picture some self-professed African historians paint online tends to differ from the reality on ground. I just wanted to point out that Olukumi/lakumi/Yoruba language is not alive per se in Latin America. Your idea of a living language is different from what is officially classified living language. A living language is one which is actively used at home, in church, in the market, amongst generations etc. In Brazil or Cuba, Lukumi is extinct in that sense, and is only used as a liturgical language by Ifa priests during religious ceremonies, just as Latin is sometimes used in the Catholic church. Also, understand that Ifa adherents usually don't understand what's being said by the priest just as most catholics don't understand Latin sometimes used in mass. Thus, just as no one speaks Latin as their native language in the world today, there are no native speakers of Lukumi in Spanish America. After Ifa ceremonies are over, everyone returns home speaking Spanish or Portuguese as the case may be. A few people may have a smattering of Olukumi here and there which they individually learned on their own, but if a language is not being actively used then the language is extinct in that area/region. Look up UNESCO's classification of language strength. In that sense, if Olukumi is only understood or read off from a book during religious ceremonies, by dedicated Ifa priests, then it did give into Spanish or Portguese in these countries. This is just being able to see things as they are without being subjective about it.

Please the guy is not a historian o


And why the sudden shift from the Olukumi of delta to Lukumi of the Americas?

Olu317:
You are absolute wrong bro. Even before 1840s, Olukumi were already in Cuba and other part of the Americas. From, where did they capture this people? I need your explanation on this since you clsim 1800. I had thought, you would had agreed to my assertion because the people through their prince ,who spoke in behalf of Ugbodu kingdom's King in my last post did mentioned their actual migration between 9th-11th century,outside Yoruba enclave . And the man still affirm to the fact that a reigning Ogiso king was the reason they left Idu in drove. I had expected you to do research from such account if you understand the period these event took place. On language's survival, you are still wrong because, some of the reasons language could survive are;
1. homogeneous settlement of the speakers
2. The ability for the speakers of the language to search and identify with speakers of the language.
3. The same religious practice of the speakers which aid the survival of the language.
4. Affiliation to ILE IFE.
5. The monarchy system of the Yorubas.

be careful how you take all this "the Prince said" "the Oba said" or the chief said. Many of them are not as traditionally grounded as they ought to and really do not speak of what they have in their traditions

I'm not saying the Prince is wrong but that is just a claim. A pity no significant academic historical research has been done on the Olukumi

Olu317:
Yes, he is of the opinion that the language is waning out ,which I disagree. In fact, in places like Americas, the language refuses to give in to Spanish.

You don't understand a bit.

That Yorubas in Cuba are called lukumi doesnt mean they are from the olukumi of delta state.
"Oluku" is a very common word found in eastern and central Yoruba dialects. And what is Olukumi language gan? Nothing like that. It's just a dialect of Yoruba language. So your reference to Cuba or the Americas should be a general Yoruba connection not Olukumi connection

Olu317:
“A Yoruba Enclave in the Heart of Aniocha in Delta State " , – Nigerian Tribune/Banji Aluko. You can read it up the experience the interviewer had with the Prince Adebowale Ochei who spoke in behalf of The King, Ayo Isinyemezethe via emotanafricana.com. I quote “According to him, history gave it that the Ugbodu Oluku mi speaking people migrated from Owo/Akure axis in the present Ondo State between 9th and 11th century AD to settle down in Benin during the reign of King Ogiso of Benin." This simply imply the Yoruba people had settled down briefly before Oranmiyan moved in towards Edo and they were different people because Ogiso has no meaning in Yoruba etymology. And they moved out in phases because of an Ogiso neglected wife had a son and after consultation with their oracle ,the child was to be a sacrificed to the Ogiso gods but the child was not killed, fowl was killed instead. The point here is that ugbodumila existed because of threat to their lives when they cohabited with their host community ,which was Igodomigodo kingdom around 11th century. This were the first set of settlers that left Edo to Ewohimi before their emigration . If you feel there aren't older than 500 years in Ugbodumila, I have no reason to change your opinion but the People ,through their spokesman mentioned this.

Good point. However the story still isn't complete
Lots of loopholes and questions that arise from a claim like this
I think even you can agree to that

Interesting

Olu317:
Bigfancis is your man to inquire from as regard how Ibos gave land to Olukumi. And you seem to forget that before the king list exists, people had small settlement and organisation thus begun through which a royal or noble lineage who might be on emigration could stumble on such settlement of his kinsmen and eventual settling down. Again ,700AD – 2000AD is 300 years. Beside this, there are incoherent as regard date specification and some duke/king could have had a tenure that last more than half a century . From the period of migration through this reign of different kings in Bini. These people had settled down in that region more than 500 years. Do the probability analysis of it.

The analysis are clear... take a look at other towns that are 500 years or more they have a list of around 40 kings.
Oloza is "oloja" in standard Yoruba dialect and this title is for leaders of small towns and villages so the idea of "small settlements before the king list" is out of it. . Oloza Adetola could not have reigned as early as 1500AD. That's not even a typical 1500AD Yoruba name

Of course when you have better reasons to believe otherwise please post them

Olu317:
If you doubt, the years of emigration from Ondo Égi–Akure—Owo axis, to Bini, was during which King? since you have more information at your disposal. I am sure you know . The migration to that region is within the years I have mentioned. I belonged to the group of Yorubas that is careful before asserting any opinion or information, I am sure, you know, if you doubt, Check my previous posts and verify my opinions or information, if it's not coherent. Like I had mentioned earlier in my previous post , the years of existence of Olukumi in that region is over 500 years. And you are absolutely wrong to have claimed Ibos gave them land in that community ,when in actual fact people look for greener pasture and avoidance of trouble and where seem best of a location through the dictates of IFA .You truly underestimated the religion of Yoruba ? IFA direction was a determinant factor for emigration. Ibos were never an organised group of people under a king. The Parliamentarian systems was what was tenable in the ibo villages not until recent past. Isnt it intriguing for Obi of Ontisha to have also claimed Odua displaced Ibos(Igbò) at ILE IFE? Funny set of people are you guys. I can't in a lifetime imagine, you of all people, could claim and infer Ibos gave Olukumi land to stay? This what I referred to ; Nairaland egocentrism of your kind and you still proof me right, when I had almost thought I goofed.

Really funny stuff. Igbos gave Olukumi people land who gives that much land

But the Olukumi cannot have been up to 500 years in that area, that is as old as Ondo city which is highly improbable. The language factor is too strongly linked to yorubaland(the francis guy tried underplaying that to make it seem the dialect is dying) such that is it unlike for them to have been amidst Igbo speakers for over 500 years. They have had only 24 Olozas, too small a number for "over 500 years" of monarchy
The names of the early olozas are typical post-1700AD Yoruba names

ClintonEmex:
Initially most of them will do Shakara, but if you are worthy you will get them at the long run.

How many unworthy guys must she have said yes to before realizing this one is worthy

davidnazee:
Sweet facts about Great Benin Kingdom/Edo people.

-West African civilization started in Igodomigodo
-Edo people were the first in Sub-Sahara region to
build a city.
-Benin City is the oldest city in Sub Sahara Africa.
-Benin kingdom is the first Kingdom in West African region and it was also the last kingdom to fall to the British. It was the longest surviving kingdom.
-At its height the kingdom covered the eastern shores of River Niger (Onitsha), through great parts of Yoruba lands up to Ghana.
-Ga tribe in Ghana traces its origins to Benin kingdom.
-some tribes in Togo also come from Benin kingdom. Togolese leader Eyadema publicly declared that his ancestors are from Edo.
-Edo people are the first to speak a European language ( we were speaking Portuguese before the British came, language of communication btw Benin and British was in Portuguese)..
-Benin Kingdom was sending ambassadors to Portugal long before British came to west Africa.
-Benin kingdom was the most developed and advanced kingdom in Africa. At a time when rest of Africa was called primitive our cities was in the same class as European cities.
-Militarily Benin kingdom was the strongest kingdom in Africa. It was the only kingdom not defeated by fellow African kingdoms. All opposition were crushed.
-British soldiers confessed that Benin would have won the war if it had same type of weapons the British had. Benin military was very organized and disciplined.

proof?

prolog2:
The best thing to do with trolls is to ignore them. To everybody, ignore the yoruba trolls: macof and olu especially.
All they are doing is trolling.
They have never proven any claim of theirs.
I like how when cornered, they would either insult you either claim to "quote a reputable source". Meaning that they have no proof but they will quote an other ignorant bastard saying the same as them (perharps it is actually themselves they are quoting by the way) and they will call that person a "reputable source". All these are crook technics.
For the issue of the existence or not of a palace for the ooni of ife before the arrival of the british, notice that no proof was provided about the existence of any such palace, rather all that was provided was "chest-beating". All these people do is talk and say trash, they will never prove anything which they claim. They are crooks and they are trolls. Nobody should waste his time talking to trolls, especially yoruba trolls.
Once you spot them, just write TROLL.
Contrary to the trolls, I have a job and a life. I can't continue a non ending conversation with trolls. People who say things without any logical background. You ask for proof and instead you get a lot of talk and no proof. You insist on proof and you get even more talk and no proof. You insist again and then you get once again some more talk and the quote of a "reputable source". Still no proof, an unending discussion with crooks whom are also trolls.

this slowpoke answer my question

What Wikipedia page do I copy from?

And again I ask, what proof? I have said a lot of things
So have You. Start proving your proof that Bini kingdom is the oldest and largest kingdom in Africa

sinaj:
We wish.

Please is it true that when changing foreign currency it is more valuable to change big notes than in smaller denominations?

FisifunKododada:
He is lucky I did not see this thread before you did. I will not be half as nice.

https://s1.postimg.org/7ccu8himxb/ibdlfkm.gif

i Love that meme

Y0ruba:
Goat.

The Solomon’s knot is not Arewa’s ‘logo’. It has foreign origins and it has assumed a sort of global status in arts & design.

Ife has two lines of aborigines. They are the Oduduwa group & Obatala group. From time immemorial in the ancient past, these groups had their separate markers and identifiers.

For the Oduduwa group - it is that knot pn the foot stool.

For the Obatala group - it is a flower-like pattern with petals.

These are inscribed on their crowns/coronets, temples, pendants & body marks for identification & allegiance.

Speaking on its use in Nigeria, that logo was originally Nothern Christian Association’s logo, it was a central part of the Christians’ insignia until the ‘One North’ political philosophy took footing & ‘Arewa’ hijacked it.


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Una nor go read, na so so spare parts & gala sales then cone on NL to make uneducated statements.

I never knew of lineage insignia in Ife. Can you tell me more about this

Most of the PDP members of those 16 years are now in APC
And all APC does is shift blames and claim to be saints

At least with PDP come 2019, Nigerians can be sure of accountability and better transparency

prolog2:
So basically, you are not jealous but you are claiming all that Benin Kingdom has ?
You are even claiming Benin Kingdom as a "yoruba product".
Just a question why is Benin Bronze called "Benin Bronze" and not "ife bronze" ?
You are not only jealous, you are a thief.
Show me the bronze which was decorating the ooni of ife's palace when the british arrived !
Surely if Benin "borrowed" its art from ife then the ooni of ife must also have had even more art decorating his "palace", right ?
Did the ooni of ife even have a proper palace when the british arrived ?

I'm not claiming, every historian knows that. If you want proof I would post a link to a reliable source

What African king didn't have a proper palace Are yiu kidding me? Even the king of Iwo had a proper palace talkless of the king above all Obas - Ooni
Btw. The size or structure of a place didn't designate the power and reputation of the King

Olowo for instance had the largest palace yet I'm sure everyone would agree that there are many Obas who held more power and influence

This is a near pure copper mask found in the place of the Ooni, the mask depicts a former Ooni named Obalufon
Note: sculpting near pure copper is something Bini never achieved
[img]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPvcS5lmEvGA_EOEZHfZSH168GjWUiisbjPDjxPKXgiAfshwvbeDO5FcUYtZc[/img]

prolog2:
Only you yoruba give any credibility to ogiamen who is a well known imposter. As an Edo I know that ogiamen is a guy who would be stoned to death by any Edo if given the opportunity. But it seems, and everybody can testify that ogiamen and yoruba fake-story peddlars like yourself are propping up each other. ogiamen repeats your claim that the Oba is from ife and you repeat his claim that the Oba took the throne from him. A pact between two thieves.

denying your first kings because a new king from Yorubaland is ruling ... it actually is to the glory of Yorubas that you would deny your Ogiso(now called Ogiamien)

By the way, I found a post from around 2012 in which you were already claiming to be a history student. I will not try and research it again right now because you have probably deleted it since I ousted you as a guy who has been claiming to be a history student for more than 6 years.

stfu! I wasn't on NL in 2012 and I had not decided to study history then

For the story about Benin Kingdom: I repeat, you are claiming that the european visitors to Benin Kingdom goot the name wrong, but also that the Edo got the name of their country wrong. But ofcourse the all knowing yoruba got it right ?! Logics

Benin is the European name - Bini is the original name
Simple. This guy doesn't even know his place

Once again, there is no proof that Oranmiyan ever existed. He is nothing but a fable, and you the fake-history student, ofcourse you are ready to quote a fable. You can't distinguish between fiction and actual history.

Let's not go far arguing about proof. It's very simple, if Oranmiyan never existed then your Oba would not exist

Oba Ewuare II declared Oranmiyan as the first Oba of bini

Instead of providing proof for your unproven claims, you are insulting those asking for proof. That is the typical way crooks operate.
Just like in that fable about the naked emperor.

proof of what exactly? I've said many things so have you and the others.
One of you even claimed Bini is the oldest and largest kingdom in Africa. Where's the proof of that


Ps. Answer my question; what Wikipedia page do I copy from. You cannot claim I copy from Wikipedia and go like that. If you are not useless you would provide the Wikipedia page

Aizenosa:
It's like saying that you are more aware of the contents of a book more than its author. which can never be possible. Till date there are still historical evidences in Benin kingdom which proves the account of the Benin history true.

There are some Europeans I have met that know African Histiry better than me...and I am African

Being African to be more specific in your case being Bini doesn't mean you have the Divine knowledge of Bini's past..you didn't live in that time , so to know you need to study and research and your level of knowledge depends on how much you have studied and how deep you have researched, it also depends on your sources..as a bini you have the source around you but you may not be interested in historical research and reject the proper sources. Many people don't go traditional and also history is boring(or useless) and complex to many people especially African history that is largely unwritten

Let me tell you how proper african historians gather information
1. They read from previous published works to have a ground ideap
2. They visit the place, which history they want to tell, observe it's geography, culture and political structure
3. They seek oral information from the various important families
4. They observe and pay keen attention to rites, rituals and festivals
5. Visit other places that are mentioned prominently in the traditions of the first place to get their version
Then come up with a conclusion

So history is not easy, you don't just know because you are from there. You know because you pick up a genuine interest and begin to learn

davidnazee:
Mr. Man don’t be blinded by your jealousy or twist truth becos of jealousy.
Benin City was founded 400BC, and Benin kingdom is always described as being the most highly developed/advanced and organized kingdom in Weet Africa.

At its height of glory it extended up to Ghana. The road from Benin to Ghana goes through Yoruba lands which was conquered and paying tribute to Benin kingdom till Oyo Empire rose and started claiming parts of Yoruba lands from Benin due to civil crisis in the kingdom.

Around 15th century Oyo tried to conquer Benin kingdom but failed woefully and was crushed in battle.

All these are facts. Go research and find out.

Jealousy? I'm not jealous of the Mongols, the Persians, the Romans, it's Bini I want to be jealous of? Bini that is only known for its monarchy and bronze art - which were borrowed from Ife
Even the "juju" people like to claim Bini has, were borrowed from Ife and Ilaje
So what should I be jealous of? When Yoruba practically made Bini kingdom what it was

As to your delusions, i leave to to them because even if I start correcting all the errors in this your post you will not take to my correction..but I simply ask, what are your sources? You should at least have a matured enough brain to know that you need to have a source..let me deal with your source

Aizenosa:
ur ignorance once again leads your thinking and controls your mouth, and indeed it's a great shame to see. SORRY.

Actually, not to brag but It appears I am more aware of Bini history than the Binis on this forum

Most of you don't care about history, you are simply driven by ethnic bigotry and hatred

davidnazee:
I just said 70% of present day yorubas are slave descendants. Yorubas I know are actually educated. You are not original Yoruba, probably the 70%..
Benin City is the oldest City in Sub-Sahara region, founded 400bc. Oba Ewuare expanded the kingdom and made it greater and stronger conquering Yoruba and reaching as far as Dahomey.
Please idiot go do your research again.

There is no evidence that the area had an urban organization as at 400BC. Even Djenne(the city considered to be the oldest in sub Saharan Africa) is not as early as 400BC

Mr. Man. Ewuare did not conquer any part of Yorubaland, the conquest of some eastern Yoruba towns began during the reign of Oba Ozolua. And Bini never conquered Dahomey.
You should be the one conducting your research cause i already have

prolog2:
Talk is easy, prove your unsubsstantiated claims.
Someone who claims to study history (a claim you first made more than 6 years ago) should know that claims are nothing but beer parlour rumours if they are not backed by proof.

You are an imposter, and you are too dumb to even look nearly legitimate.
Only mediocre people and imposters boast of being students.
Real archievers would talk about papers they actually published.
Or would prove their points without mentionning their cvs.
In your case, you are an imposter, a liar mixing wikipedia trash with yoruba beer parlour talks ( the intersection of the 2 latter is not empty).
What annooys me the most when talking to lunatics like you is your incredible arrogance.
There are 600 years old maps which clearly show "BENIN KINGDOM", yet you are here claiming that the real name is "bini" and that Benin is a portuguese corruption. Which brings me to my question: did you do some time travel to get to that information ? Did you go back in time for ... let us say 1000 years ? The Edo say Benin, the europeans who paid visits to the Kingdom also said Benin, but you the yoruba guy, you know it better than everybody else, right ? "na bini"..."we y.a.r.i.b.a, know Edo history better than Edo, the british, the portugues and so on...". Freaking lunatic yoruba fools.
One day, someone would have to explain the link between a well known imposter "ogiamen idiot" and the yoruba fake-history peddlers. Who exactly is using who in this unholly alliance.

Lmao. I wonder where this guy got his 6years from have I even been on NL that long. If I boast trust me I would be blowing my anonymity

If you do not know the name Ibini is the name Oba Ewedo gave to the city from the expression "Ile Ibinu" uttered by Oranmiyan then you like your brothers on this forum are a waste of space.

You dare call me an Imposter? Look at this shameless dog. When you are the same person using the "historyworldO31" moniker, after lying that you studied medicine in France.. Can you imagine this guy

Please show me the Wikipedia page I copy from


If you are not too dull and stupid you would have realised that European maps would have "European corruption" of African names..heck they even called Eko Lagos.

Jeez! Keep proving me right that your people have only one goal on NL, and that is to disgrace your glorious ancestors

This guy doesn't even know shiit about Ogiamien. Ogiamien is now a Yoruba impostor mogbe o!

prolog2:
Also, what kind of "history student" can't even spell the name of a city which he claims to have studied.
For your ifo, it is Benin City, not "bini city".
Besides, it has never been established that Benin City was created in the 14th century.
Some of the bronze stolen by the british in the Oba's palace were made in the 14th or 15th century.
That doesn't mean that the city didn't exist before that date. It actually means that the city already existed in that period of time.
You have always been a slowpoke trying to gain credibility by constantly claiming that you are a history student.

1. It is accurate to say Bini, not a corrupted version "Benin" by Portugess. Ibini is what Oba Ewedo named the city after defeating Ogiamien.
2. The entry of the Oba and take over from the Ogiamien saw the foundation of a new city. The Obas ruled only from Uselu prior to this
The land and forms of government have existed for long but just as Abuja was founded in the 1980s from new city plans
3. Try me then. Rather than bring stupid