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mazaje: The Quran says "and We have not sent messengers except with the language of his own people, so that he might explain to them...." Quran- ibrahim The above verse when construed with the previous ones in my earlier post gives us the understanding that, NOT ONLY ARE THERE PROPHETS OTHER THAN THE SEMITIC(jews and arabs) ONES, BUT ALSO MESSAGES CAME FROM ALLAH IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN THE SEMITIC ONES (arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Tigrinya, And Aramaic) Thus if you critically analyse the Hindus and the bhudist religion there are traces of monotheism, a one supreme God called different names in different language. And these messages were brought by men of God (prophets) even though divinity was ascribed to some of them and their messages got mixed up, misunderstood or some times outrightly lost. I hope that answers you. |
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Now this thread is not meant to exonerate the Fulanis of the crimes they commit but I can't help but notice a consistent effort to amplify crimes (sometimes alleged) by Fulanis. Thus u see headlines like; Fulani armed robbers arrested in ogun (Neva mind the fact that they might even be kanuris, gwaris etc) Fulani heardsmen attack village (even though that particular conflict had been ongoing btw farmers and herdsmen, but a sensational 'fulani' twist is given to the story as if they appear out of thin air) Hausa/Fulani attack Lagos (you would think only Hausa and Fulanis make up majority of northerners living in Lagos) And a host of other stigmatising headlines. When armed robbers are caught who are from the south the caption would be "SUSPECTED armed robbers arraigned" or when berom youths attack muslims while praying on eid day, the best u get is "UNKNOWN armed men SUSPECTED TO be hoodlums attack Muslims" What's the essence of this bias? And what are the motives ? |
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^ you ahold be ashamed of yourself for such porpustorous lie. Are you allowed to do that in whatever religion u follow? |
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I guess the Protestants weren't free of blame after all. So my question is has the church in any time in history both Protestant and catholic issued any APOLOGY to black folks and taken concrete steps to redress this catastrophic historical SIN by the church? When and what was it. |
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Why do you non believers keep wallowing in ur ignorance. At least if you want to discredit Islam do it with knowledge. Quote the Quran and say explain this to me you Muslims. Or quote the Quran and prove it wrong. But what our christain brothers are busy doing is. This sheikh said so, or Muslims do this, or the Colour of islam is that. This is very childish. IMAGINE ME CONDEMNING PHYSICS BECAUSE THE LECTURERS OF PHYSICS DEPARTMENT ARE CURRUPT. My basis of condemning anything should be it's primary source and not some mickey mouse argument, so if I can prove the law of phsics wrong, then i can condemn physics. Compare this to when a Muslim asks a christain that show me evidence in the bible that any prophet in the bible believed in the trinity. If it is indeed a cardinal aspect of christain faith? 2 Likes |
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The qur'an says, "and there was never a nation except a warner (prophet) dwelt among them" Quran- fatir It also says " indeed we have said said messengers before you (Muhammad PBUH) some of which we have related their stories to you and others which we have not told you their stories..."Quran- ghafir "on the day when we shall call on every nation by it's leader (prophet)" From the above verses from the Quran we believe as Muslims that including black Africa had their prophets sent to them, that's why we can see some traces of monotheism in some African religion. SO THE ANSWER IS YES FROM THE QURANIC PERSPECTIVE 1 Like |
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Proxytalk: naija don really beta for some peopleBut the light in minna has been very good for as long as I can remember, that's speaking of 10-15 years back, if anything it's just deteriorating. But look at it if not for bad management why should Niger state even complain of light? They've got kainji plant, shiroro plant and jebba plant. |
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^ kindly refer to me by the name my fafa gib me ![]() I would prefer we discus that on a different thread so that we don't derail this one, so I'll just oblige ur curiosity. Muslims traded slave but were Neva intstructed to do so by Islam, just like some Muslim gamble even though it is forbidden. What I am out to discuss is what was the religious stance of the church/Christianity during slave trade. Note I am not asking why the Europeans (who happen to be Christians) traded slave (infact that's why I am weary of any thing European, first slavery then colonialism and now... U tell me?) |
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My dear frosbel I knew this thread was never complete without ur contribution, but as I said I don't want copy and paste no problem if you quote others but I would want your judgement at the end of it. Now I would have preferred not to reply your comment on Islam as it will derail the thread as you rightly opined, but I would use it to point out the bearing of this discussion. Just one verse of the Quran answers your concern "o mankind We have created you from pairs of male and female, and have made you nations and tribes SO THAT YOU MAY RECOGNISE EACH OTHER, verily the most honoured of you in the sight of ALlah is the most pious of you, ...." Now this provides a guidance on the issue of slavery from islamic view point or saying black is evil (or what ever the Europeans want us to believe), now any Arab or Muslim nation that breaches this is clearly against the tenet of Islam. Turning to the church some priests actually used scriptures to justify slavery in those dark ages, so basically what I want us to dicuss was why this happened with the blessing of the church. AND NOT ISLAM VS CHRISTIANIY |
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@arbiter, most interesting are the perspectives you've brought up. First could you provide fact for linking the end of slave trade to the Protestant movement. Also was the issue of slavery ever really an issue to the Protestants when they protested, And @ all thanks for your contribution, I would summarise most responses as admitting that the church goofed on this one. But I would also add that it was because the bible didn't provide any clear direction on the issue of equality of mankind, if anything there are instances some races are refered to derogatorily this would have provided ammunition for proponents of the slave trade to justify it, which indeed the church did. |
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I must say she is beautiful in both stature and speech. 1 Like |
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Now my first question is did the church condemn or blessed the activities of those dark ages? |
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Now before the insults start to rain in, let me make my motives clear. Now I am also black and am very curious about what the church's position was then. Secondly the church during those time wielded so much power then compared to these days, I would want a civil discussion,NO COPY AND PASTE, no probs in quoting other people ideas but I would prefer UR VIEWS AS SOMEONE WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE TRADED. |
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onome25: what happened to the BOKO HARAM members that escpaed yesterday from the hands of the military when they discovered some explosives & guns in some BOKO's car boot Where do u start replying to this? Now I truly understand why they say silence is the best answer to a fool |
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Why is it that some people like denying innovation, creativity and entrepreneurship at it's best. (in fact I might be using some of this deatails in my academic write up of whether entrepreneurs are made or born). This family and many others like them in the north have been in trade and business long before even the first colonialist set foot on this continent. And yet some are linking their wealth to military (how do u guys answer exam questions) Infact since the military left the business has been waxing stronger not only number one in Nigeria but in Africa. Some one asked in the previous page do the hausas have more business mind than the Igbos (was that a joke). The hausa are merchant while the Igbos are traders. The hausas have been merchants for almost a millennium now (read about the trans Saharan trade routes and the prominences of cities like Kano, katsina and Timbuktu in this trans Saharan trade routes before the Europeans came to disrupt those routes) 3 Likes 1 Share |
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Parnassuss: Ludicrous!!! Protect themselves that's why they are selling and smuggling armsGod bless u my brother. U don't need to be a rocket scientist to know evil is evil be it by Muslim or christain. I wonder whether some people have akara in their heads instead of brains? 1 Like |
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I just read on this day newspaper that kainji plan has been shutdown due to lickages. The impact on power supply in minna my area has been catastrophic. On normal days I will estimate Minna gets an AVEREAGE of 15-20hrs of electricity out of 24hrs daily. An my side of minna is even higher with about 20-23hrs of electricity daily. BUT SINCE FRIDAY THE AVEREAGE HAS DROPED TO 0.5-1hr daily (am dead serious) What's it like in your area. |
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![]() fingard02k: @op heat dey kill us here o @awka |
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Am I the only one noticing a trend of christain youths and now pastors in the northern states being caught with ammunitions and weaponry. Men of God running guns. ![]() |
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1025: My guy don't get it twisted. That interview was not meant for the Nigerian public, if GEJ is really concerned about the breach of our sovereignty he should be addressing the nation on NTA and explaining to us naijapals, while blasting the British for bungling the operation (or better still keep shut). The only reason he is on CNN singing is because of the row between the English and the Mafians and probably the British PM asked him to come in and take some of the fire aimed at Britain (since Nigeria is "diplomatically expendable" ![]() |
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lonamy: Ah anh! why the insult now, becoz I stated the obvious, the senate made the law which the cbn is using so they've got nothing on him. As some one rightly said if they really want to be receiving the cbn budget they should repeal or amend that law, and not by legal fiasco which the Nigerian tax payer will be footing the bills of both (cbn and senate) And for your info we know how our house operates, they are probably looking for bribe or on a vendetta for samido accusing them of gulping over 25% of nations expenditure. So abeg make we rest jor. (we say the bribery scandal of the of the capital Market probe yesterday, we are seeing how the plug is being abruptly pulled from the pension probe. So guy go Siddon if u don't understand 9ja politics) 1 Like |
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Who authorised the mission- Britain There were British soldiers involved British lives involved. Yet the British PM has not directly claimed responsibility, infact they do not really agree that the failure of the mission was due to them (even though it might be implied) but trust our presido, who should be tactfully dodging such question taking responsibility of a British authirized mission, ONLY OUR LEADERS CAN BE THIS UNDIPLOMATIC. 2 Likes |
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Has the previous cbn budget been scrutinised by senate before, abeg make we hear word they r just on a vendetta mission, o 1 Like |
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When it was first changed it took me like for days to sign in, because the site was so scattered. Here r some reason why I don't like the new one perhaps the owner will include the features or revert to the new NL 1) when I enter a section and look at topics I try to find how many replies there are this is missing in the new one 2) I believe it's easier to mentally track and contexualize the last post by the time it was actually posted than by how long has elapsed 3) believe it or not the lines that separated the topics, replies and last post columns makes more sense than this mix up we have now 4) many of my favourite posters whom I come here to sometimes follow are still MIA (missing in action), perhaps still angry or have dumped this site al together 5) and one thing the owner can add which was never here was details on when the first post was made. That's from the topic views before actually entering the thread, to know how old a thread is. That's my take. Do you think you are getting used to the new one |
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wellmax: Mehn! Truly you are brainwashed, you really want us to start listing the wars fought in the name of god in the bible? For starters, tell me why the promised land was forbidden to the Jews for 40yrs during Moses? 1 Like |
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54. begwong: My guy you seem to miss the true concept of Islam. Islam never came to replace Christianity or Judaism, but to fulfil them hence the similar teachings, just like Jesus (peace be upon him) never came to do away with moses' laws (Torah) but to fulfil them. Islam came to clarify the false divinity which was ascribed to Jesus by early christains which is a serious confusion to some modern day christains (e.g Jehovah witness). NOW LISTEN TO SOME BEUTIFUL WORDS FROM THE QURAN, 1) "the Christ son of Mary, was naught but a messenger ((of Allah), many were the messengers that came before him, and his mother was a saint. They both eat food...,," (Quran -maidah) 2) "the similitude of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like thad of Adam, he created him from dust and said to him 'be' and he was" (Quran- Ali-imran) 3) "behold the angel said onto Mary verily Allah has chosen you and has purified you and has chosen you above women of all nation (Quran Ali- imran) not even the mother of our beloved prophet was given this honour in the Quran! And you claim Islam is anti Jesus? Tell me why will Muhammad (peace be upon him) an Arab tell his fellow Arabs then that a jewish lady, a tribe that looked down upon their Arab bretheren, was chosen above all their women? The answer - "he shall not speek of himself, what ever he hears he speaks,..," (bible - book of John) 1 Like |
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Akwasi I will take you for your word. Count me in I teach entrepreneurship at federal university I also specialise in problem solving models such as HBDITM I can see ur deadline is passed so no problem if u have your guys already, but I feel it will be an interesting challenge if it's as you say it is. Good luck Mai-suya |
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Did you derive this conclusion from facts, or imagined facts out of such conclusion? For in as much as you keep on evaluating Islam and by extension history with preconceived biases, then am afraid my friend that you will always be wrong in both facts and what you infere therefrom. The quintessential Islamic empire of old (note not the hybrid, pick and choose Muslim states of today) had remained the most cosmopolitan society in the then world, not even contemporary Europe of it's time could show it any thing about ideals and sciences, or even diversity. Read about when women were granted even the basic right of inheritance Europe, while their counterparts in the Islamic world enjoyed such already for almost a millennium earlier. Read about the history of religious diversity of the holy land under the Muslims and compare it to what it was under the crusaders. Read of the multiculturalism of andalusia(Spain) under muslims then compare it to what it was under christains (no mosque was left standing). So guy read and stop this silly conclusions, and I repeat u can't judge the past with the ideals of present. |
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