Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Bible Encouraging Bribe? Mathew 5 Vs 25 by malvisguy212: 10:29pm On Mar 21, 2016 |
Kujo: can someone please explain what the bible is trying to say in the book of mathew 5 vs 25
New International Version "Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
King James Bible Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. did you read and understand the context ? Its about anger and reconciliation. The bible condemned bribery and stealing, the message is very simple. Let us quote from verse 24: 24leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. 25"Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26"Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent. Is their any mention of bribery here ? Make friend quickly with your opponent on your way to court, does it mean you should bribe him ? It is because your heart is CORRUPTED, that is why you think the other way round, well , keep it up, thank but no thank from were you learn this moral behavior. Proverb 28:8 do not bring hastily to court, for what will you do in the end if your neighbor puts you to shame? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bleeding “Jesus Christ” Spotted In Lagos (photo) by malvisguy212: 3:46pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
RobinHez: But is all these what christ wanted us to do?! NO, people will always chose Evil instead of Good because Evil is in their nature, no matter how hard I try, I cannot force you to love me. I don't know about you or the rest of you atheist. But as for me, I intend to put my faith in God and believe in jesus christ until I die. Thank you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bleeding “Jesus Christ” Spotted In Lagos (photo) by malvisguy212: 12:14pm On Mar 20, 2016 |
RobinHez: And who should a Christian be? like christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bleeding “Jesus Christ” Spotted In Lagos (photo) by malvisguy212: 8:59am On Mar 20, 2016 |
RobinHez: Christians are Christianity's main problem!  its depend who you call a christian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism : The Actual Fulfillment Of This Prophecy by malvisguy212: 8:56am On Mar 20, 2016 |
Qpetz: What is the TRUTH? the truth is in the op. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Still A Christian? When Was The Last Time You Did Any Of These? by malvisguy212: 5:41am On Mar 20, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Still A Christian? When Was The Last Time You Did Any Of These? by malvisguy212: 5:40am On Mar 20, 2016 |
emusmith: Still A Christian, When Was The Last Time You Did Any Of These?
Some will say, it's not 'works' but 'grace'. The same Grace Jesus had yet He worked all day and night for His Father. you are mistaken my friend. Jesus is NOT working to be save, He is showing the Evidence of a saving faith. The unsave are working hard to please God, whereas the save is resting on the Work of another (jesus). You cannot show that you are saved without works (James 2:14,18). To prove your faith is genuine, you need to show the evidence of your faith. |
Christianity Etc › Re: VIDEO: Ghanaian 'archbishop' Begs Muslims For Forgiveness 'in The Name Of Allah' by malvisguy212: 10:24pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
Skako: @Op thanks for this thread this video is very interesting shame on the person that abuse Allah and also seek for his forgiveness
I love Allah and his messenger (SAW) I love being a Muslim I also love that my brother in Islam that rebuttal that stupid pastor you love allah and his ONLY messenger(muhammed). Allah love only the believers and hate the unbelievers, allah love is conditional,their is not verse in the quran that imply allah love the sinners, if their is provide it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by malvisguy212: 10:15pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
asalimpo: 1) Suicide is a sin? ----------------------------- says who?
2) The earth is 6000 years old? ------------------------------------- provide scriptures please.
Christians too are guilty of spewing a whole lot of crap without scriptural evidence. And want to force it on you. ayoku777 has already answer the suicide part of your question. Concerning the earth. The earth is 14billion years old or more, but human began to exist here on earth 6000 years ago. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientific Accuracy Of The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:04pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
johnydon22: You are still gushing over the same ludicrous wrong assertions. . . even if it means Corners
A sphere has no corner because it is a sphere for goodness sake.. It can never have a corner or edges or end or even a face.
So a Sphere with Corners as you are saying the translations implies is also wrong and such a thing is impossible.
End of a country, corners of a land are used to represent a small geographical mapped zone.
The earth is not a small mapped out geographical area with boundary, the earth is spherical and cannot be said to have an edge, end, corner.
Only a flat disk can have an end or edge or corner...
The earth is spherical so you and your bible remains wrong... Take corrections and move on because your "original translation" defence still made matters worse.. before you criticize the bible, you need to know what the original manuscript translated. When they say king james translation, what does it mean ? The original translation has NOTHING to do with conner. what these four "corners" refer to are the points of the compass , north, south, east, and west. In reality, the Hebrew word has nothing to do with corners at all. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Call Me Good? Analyze. by malvisguy212(op): 3:25pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
HIbreed: My Boss,am not a Jw,but i do attend their meetings just like i,ve worshipped with plethoras of churches but discovered they are the false prophets depicted by Jesus. The so called men of God are too materialistic to be leading the flock of God, Among numerous waters of churches i tested,i found peace in Jw though but i do not abide in all their doctrines like beleiving they are the only ones to be saved on the last day. you are not a jehovah witness but you find peace in jehovah witness. Well, who am I to judge ? God knows you more than you think. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Call Me Good? Analyze. by malvisguy212(op): 9:32am On Mar 19, 2016 |
HIbreed: thank you jozzy,. Nice analogy. Do people derive joy by twisting the word of God, i find it disheartening.Revelation 22:18 I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book: Revelation 22:19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.
and when jehovah witness change john 1:1 the word was God "to" the word was a God, this is not bible twisting right ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Tri-unity Of God And The Work Of Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 8:35am On Mar 19, 2016 |
HIbreed: if Jesus is of the same equality with God, why did he directed all the glory.To God.Are you reading and understanding the scripture or are you dwelling on what was sucessfully passed on to you by your religious heads. Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good save one, even God.
John 7:16 Jesus therefore answered them and said, My teaching is not mine, but his that sent me.
Philippians 2:5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Philippians 2:6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, Philippians 2:7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; Philippians 2:8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient even unto death, yea, the death of the cross. Philippians 2:9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name; Philippians 2:10 that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things on earth and things under the earth, Philippians 2:11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Concerning Mark 10:18. Read here https://www.nairaland.com/2738621/why-call-me-good-analyzeChrist jesus is a man, his human origin began in bethlehem,at a particular point of time, but his divine origin is unknown, bible say, His divine origin is from ancient of days, from everlasting. Micah 5:2 (NIV) 2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans[a] of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, WHOSE ORIGIN ARE FROM OF OLD, FROM ANCIENT TIMES.” He was born in bethlehem, but his origin is unknown, so the fact that he was born prove he was a man and the fact that his origin is unknown prove He was God. When jesus pray, call God is father, He does so because that was the duty of a man. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Photos: Is Jesus On His Way Back? by malvisguy212: 9:53pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: Na, I love watching Gods jerking off in people's mouths. Hope your Savior comes soon. alright. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Photos: Is Jesus On His Way Back? by malvisguy212: 9:50pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Photos: Is Jesus On His Way Back? by malvisguy212: 9:45pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Photos: Is Jesus On His Way Back? by malvisguy212: 9:28pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Photos: Is Jesus On His Way Back? by malvisguy212: 6:26pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: John 1:1 According To Greek And Aramaic Translation by malvisguy212: 6:14pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Well, the non-Christian sect that use the NWT know themselves. is like this muslim is becoming a jehovah witness. It was the jehovah witness bible translated "the word was a God". |
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity 101: Hundreds Bible Verses That Proves Trinity As A Dogma It Is. by malvisguy212: 6:00pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
HIbreed: Holy Spirit is God's active force,or work force.It our cherished gift from God. did you just say the Holy spirit is God active force ? Then as long as it is a force, everyone is entitle to it ? May God forgive you my friend. The holy spirit is a person, He teaches: John 14:26 26 “But the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, HE WIlL TEACH YOU all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. He testifies (John 15:26)He guides into all truth, He hears, speaks, shows ( John 16:13). "What constitutes the essentials of personality? Usually three things - a person must possess intelligence, emotions, and will. A thing lacks these, but the Holy Spirit is not a thing because He has intelligence, emotions and will". Intelligence -The Spirit knows the things of God (1. Corinthians 2:10-11) Emotions - The Holy Spirit can be grieved (Ephesians 4:30, and He loves Christians (Romans 15:30). Both emotions are experienced by a person not a thing or power. Will -The Spirit gives gifts to men as He wills (1 Corinthians 12:11) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Trinity 101: Hundreds Bible Verses That Proves Trinity As A Dogma It Is. by malvisguy212: 5:48pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
HIbreed: i believe in Jesus,the only begotten son of the true God,who died so that we shall be saved. He is not God,stop twisting the glaring bible truth. Proclaimers of the Trinity theory use John 1:1 as their strongest proof that Jehovah and Jesus are one and the same: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." And, on the surface, this statement seems to be a rather straight forward explanation of the relationship of God and Jesus. However, truth does not arise from single Bible verses taken out of context or blindly accepted without research and study.However,there are hundreds of bible verse that shed light on Jesus rightful place among The heavenly realm and men. https://www.nairaland.com/2960660/tri-unity-god-work-salvation |
Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE TRANSCENDS FORGIVENESS! by malvisguy212: 4:21pm On Mar 18, 2016 |
vooks: Bro, It is UNMERITED. You got that right. What is the difference between a NT Saint like yourself and an OT Saint like Job? Are you BETTER at obeying God than them? you misunderstood the op, let me ask you. What is God’s requirement for salvation? What must a sinner do to be saved? Is faith the only requirement for salvation ? The correct view for this question is ; GRACE plus FAITH = salvation plus works. ( Not please, the work here imply the evidence of a saving faith).GOD message to the unbelievers is very clear: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31). The message IS NOT surrender to His Lordship, it is believe on the Lord and be save. Because Grace is unmerited favor from God, then How can a sinner willingly believe on the Lordship of jesus ? He must do away with his favorite sin. Just as a tree cannot have apples unless it already has the nature of an apple tree, so a person cannot have a willingness and desire to believe in jesus unless he already possesses the new nature received by regeneration at salvation (2 Pet. 1:3-4). Thus, even the willingness and desire to submit to Christ’s rule are the result of, and not a requirement for, salvation.". Grace is not just unmerited favor from God, is more than that. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Clear Error In The Bible: God Could Not Make Such A Mistake by malvisguy212: 8:53am On Mar 18, 2016 |
truthman2013: Jesus wants to show the Pharisees that "Sabbath was made for humans, not humans for the Sabbath" and so reminds them of what the great King David had done when he and his men were hungry, how they went into the Temple "when Abiathar was the high priest" and ate the show bread, which was only for the priests to eat.
Mark 2:23-26 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. The Pharisees said to him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?” He answered, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.”
One of the wellknown problems of the passage above is that when one looks at the Old Testament passage that Jesus is citing (1 Sam. 21:16), it turns out that David did this not when Abiathar was the high priest, but, in fact, when Abiathar's father Ahimelech was.
1 Samuel 1-6. Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest: and Ahimelech was afraid at the meeting of David, and said unto him, Why art thou alone, and no man with thee? And David said unto Ahimelech the priest,.... . Now therefore what is under thine hand? give me five loaves of bread in mine hand, or what there is present. And the priest answered David, and said, There is no common bread under mine hand, but there is hallowed bread; if the young men have kept themselves at least from women. So the priest gave him hallowed bread : for there was no bread there but the showbread, that was taken from before the LORD, to put hot bread in the day when it was taken away.
In other words, this is one of those passages that have been pointed to in order to show that the Bible is not inerrant at all but contains mistakes.
Cc: truthman2012 annunaki, gimakon, parisbookaddict.. No baseless assumption pleAse.
Truthman educated rilwayne who did not understand the phrase "IN HIS DAYS" let me give you an example. If we say IN HIS DAYS when david was a king, he kill golieth. David was not king as of that time, but was I wrong for calling david king although he was yet a king ? Fool, david was design to be king, so I was right for using the phrase " IN HIS DAYS" the same way jesus was right for using the phrase " IN HIS DAYS" because Abiathar was soon to be high priest and this is what he is most remembered for, hence he is designated by this title. Moreover, the event certainly did happen ‘in the days of Abiathar’, as he was alive and present during the incident. We know from 1 Samuel 22:20 that he narrowly escaped when his father’s whole family and their town was destroyed by Saul’s men. Therefore, the bible did not contradict the event. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Soldiers Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 8:08am On Mar 18, 2016 |
Freshboi: For those who fight wars to defend our territorial integrity, when they die, do they go to heaven? Christianity frowns at murder, yet many Christian characters used genocide to propagate the word of God. not all killing are murder, murder involve killing deliberately, the original translation of the 6th commandment is " You shall not MURDER" Is it wrong for a policeman to use his gun and perhaps even kill someone in order to protect the innocent and enforce the law? Daavid was a soldier prior to his calling, is it wrong for david to kill golieth , who kill and take away the isrealit food ? There is also the kind of killing that is unintentional, such as when a person causes the death of a person by accident. God made full provision for this kind of killing by setting up cities of refuge in the land of Israel (see Numbers 35:1-34 and Deuteronomy 19:1-10). Accidental killing is rightly classified as killing but. it is not murder. The Bible makes a clear distinction between someone who kills a person accidentally without ever having hated the person (Deut. 19:4), and someone who murders a person by lying in wait for him (Deut. 19:11). The latter is an example of a carefully planned and premeditated murder motivated by hatred. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Soldiers Go To Heaven? by malvisguy212: 8:00am On Mar 18, 2016 |
Freshboi: For those who fight wars to defend our territorial integrity, when they die, do they go to heaven? Christianity frowns at murder, yet many Christian characters used genocide to propagate the word of God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaduna People, How True Is This? by malvisguy212: 7:30am On Mar 18, 2016 |
mustymatic: It is a lie.. but unfortunately Nigerians live on rumours, they'll start raining insults...wait o where is gbagyi Villa sef? Lies the op is not lying. It is true. |
Crime › Re: I Sold Ifesinachi Ani To Emir Of Zazzau-abductor by malvisguy212: 8:39pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
IkpuMmadu: This is why Islam is so despicable and I don't even allow a Muslim in my house not to talk of touching my kids
They are perverted Muhammed is damn good with brain washing muhammed cannot be a prophet from the true God, if you read the bible very well, crime which God condemned, in the quran, we read how muhammed did exactly that and went free, david marry his soldier wife and God punish him for that. But in fact, it was Allah who encourage muhammed to marry the wife of his adopted son, will God play double standard ? May God help us. |
Crime › Re: I Sold Ifesinachi Ani To Emir Of Zazzau-abductor by malvisguy212: 5:11pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
realmindz: glory be to Allah. praise to Islam, the religion of peace..no rest till we conquer yes, you are very correct, islam and the anti-christ, together, they will conquer the world. |
Crime › Re: I Sold Ifesinachi Ani To Emir Of Zazzau-abductor by malvisguy212: 5:08pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
Islam cannot be a religion from God, how can a religion encourage death by suicide, sex and many carnal and worldly pleasure ? This is not the type of heaven God promise us, this is satan plan to lure humanity to hell, here what the bible say concerning the kingdom of God, The Holy Bible makes clear to us:
Romans 14:17: “For the Kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.”
The true God created Heaven to be an awe- inspiring place where perpetual Joy, Peace, Righteousness, Love, and Holiness reign supreme. Thus, instead of encouraging unrestrained lust by promising a heavenly brothel, Jehovah sternly gave the following warning to all those who nurture greedy “sexual appetite.” He said that upon such ones “the wrath of God is coming.”
Colossians 3:5-6: “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of those things the wrath of God is coming.”
The bible say the last ENEMY that will be destroy is DEATH. Islamic heaven encourage death via sex. May God guide our young girls in jesus name amen. |
Crime › Re: I Sold Ifesinachi Ani To Emir Of Zazzau-abductor by malvisguy212: 4:59pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
To entice his followers to fight in suicidal raids and wars, Muhammad created an image of Islamic paradise that made it difficult for the gullible Bedouins to resist. Sadly, the same holds true today. Allah’s Paradise offer Muslims with unlimited access to every carnal desires, greed, pleasures and wealth that man may wish to have or experience in this life. Perverse sexuality which includes sex with numerous eternal virgins and sodomy with pearl-like boys is among the delicacies in Allah’s paradise. Till today, this promise of a Paradise of Sex, Sin and Sensuality in the Qur’an inspires young Muslim men to die for Allah’s cause.
To conquer, murder, and plunder, Muhammad essentially needed only the support of men to do his bidding. And this fittingly explains why the Islamic Paradise is designed solely for the purpose of satisfying the carnal desires of men and not that of women.
Muhammad knew for sure that sex would sell very well among his warriors. As an earthly reward, he gave his warriors the incentive of sex by saying that it is fine with Allah if they raped captured women and kept them as sex- slaves.
Surah 4:24:“Also forbidden for you are married women, except those who have fallen in your hands as prisoners of war.”
Still the risk of death deterred some Muslims from participating in Allah’s wars. Hence, Muhammad came up with an ingenious solution to the problem. He told his followers that they will go straight to Paradise if they die fighting for the faith. He knew that if the enticement of sex-slaves and booty here on earth could stimulate some to fight Allah’s battles, then the promise of heavenly orgies immediately upon death could just be the right kind of motivation for those who are still hesitant. Thus, Muhammad designed an evil plan. He excited his believers with these promises:
Surah 52:20: “They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Houris (female, fair ones) with wide lovely eyes.” (Hilali-Khan)
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 35: Narrated By Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any army unit going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah’s cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause.” |
Islam › Re: Clear Error In The Qur'an: God Could Not Make Such A Mistake by malvisguy212: 1:39am On Mar 16, 2016 |
Nadheer15: This is a big lie because the Samaritans are descendants of Joseph, they're hundreds of years older than Moses. They still exist today and their population is about 800, many of them are Muslims, especially in those from the city of Nablus.
This is what the Samaritans about themselves, so your words hold no weight:
Until the middle of the 20th Century it was customary to believe that the Samaritans originated from a mixture of the people living in Samaria and other peoples at the time of the conquest of Samaria by Assyria (722/1 B.C.E.). The Biblical account in II Kings 17 had long been the decisive source for the formulation of historical accounts of Samaritan origins. Reconsideration of this passage, however, has led to more attention being paid to the Chronicles of the Samaritans themselves. With the publication of Chronicle II (Sefer ha-Yamim), the fullest Samaritan version of their own history became available: the chronicles, and a variety of non-Samaritan materials.
According to the former, the Samaritans are the direct descendants of the Joseph tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh, and until the 17th century C.E. they possessed a high priesthood descending directly from Aaron through Eleazar and Phinehas. They claim to have continuously occupied their ancient territory in central Palestine and to have been at peace with other Israelite tribes until the time when Eli disrupted the Northern cult by moving from Shechem to Shiloh and attracting some northern Israelites to his new cult there. For the Samaritans, this was the 'schism' par excellence. "Samaritans" in Encyclopaedia Judaica, 1972, Volume 14, op. cit., col. 727.
Take a look at the underlined, it's clear enough, if you want genealogical evidence I can give you!
Nobody is talking about Samaria but Samaritan, which is a people who descended from Joseph. A Samarian is one that inhabits the city of Samaria. This is totally different, the Samaritans never called themselves Samarian so why trying to disprove the unproven? The Samaritan descended from Joseph which was many years before Moses and the city of Samaria which consists Samarian was founded later.
Yorubas have existed thousands of years, but Nigeria was coined in 1914, does that mean Yorubas didn't exist before Nigeria was formed?! what ?? You said the samaritant are the descendant of joseph ? How ? Provide evidence please. The samaritant are foreigners. |
Islam › Re: Clear Error In The Qur'an: God Could Not Make Such A Mistake by malvisguy212: 1:27am On Mar 16, 2016 |
Demmzy15: Shut your trap hypocritic ignoramus, this same demon is what over 15 million Arab christians call God. Better go and seek forgiveness!
It's not an error, just because something doesn't agree with your bible doesn't mean it's an error. Disprove the Quran from historically not from your porn filled manual you call a bible. read the op very well. The op did not compear the quran and bible. Its about history and the quran, how can a samaritant lead the isrealite to go against God plan, when they are not in existence ? Samson tearing of lion mouth and the rest , they are all miracle, it is not by their strength. They are being empower by God. unless you don't believe in God, this miracle are real. |