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Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 2:22pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
The question is, why do they only take the male form? Stop rigmaroling, you are not making any sense.
honestly speaking, I don't know, its is their choice, it dos not affect my relationship with God. #Tomato,potatoes, who cares ?#

I know you are an atheists , don't believe in what this guys here are saying, they are only being manipulated by satan.they accused God of killing innocent people, you are wise right? Go back and review the story in the old testament see if their claimed are true.
Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 1:50pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
What are you talking about? The angels came down in form of human males and had $ex with women and they are referred to as "he" what does gender even have to do with character btw?

Pray tell, what does being made in god's image involve?
God and angels are referred to as He because they are not just an active FORCE , they are persons but there nature is different from human.

They bible do not give much details on the falling angels that made love with the women , but one thing for sure this angels who are spiritual beings cannot Do this acts without possessing a human flash. And WHENEVER the angels assume human form , they appear as male .
Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 12:47pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
Therefore?
God and angels are spirit, they do not possesed human character,The fact that
there are men and women does not
require God to have male and female
features. Remember, being made in the
image of God has nothing to do with
physical characteristics.
Christianity Etc › One Question, Three Different Answers by malvisguy212(op): 12:31pm On Aug 02, 2015
by Eric Lyons, M.Min.

Three times in the book of Acts, Luke the physician recorded non-Christians asking what they needed to do to be saved, and three times a different answer was given.

The heathen jailor from Philippi asked
Paul and Silas, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?,” and was told: “BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND YOU WILL BE SAVED” (16:30-31).

The Jews on Pentecost asked the apostles, “Men and brethren,what shall we do?,” and were instructed to“REPENT AND BE BAPTISED ” (2:37-38).

A few years later, Saul (later called Paul
Acts 13:9) asked Jesus, Who appeared to
Saul on his way to Damascus, “Lord, what do you want me to do?” (9:6; 22:10). After being told to go into Damascus to find out what he “must do” to be saved, Ananias, the Lord’s servant, commanded Saul to “RISE AND BE BAPTISED, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord” (22:16).
The question that many ask is: “Why are three different answers given to the same question?” Are these answers contradictory, or is there a logical explanation for their differences?

The reason that three different answers
were given to the question of salvation is because on each occasion the
questioners were at different “locations”
on the road to salvation. The rationality
of such answers can be illustrated by
considering what a person is told in
reference to his physical distance from a certain city. If a friend calls me to ask
how far it is from his house in Jackson,
Tennessee to my parents’ house in
Neosho, Missouri, I would inform him
that he is 475 miles from Neosho. If he
calls me back the next day, notifying me
that he is now in Little Rock, Arkansas,
and asks about the distance to Neosho, I would give him a different answer. He
now would be 260 miles from Neosho. If,later that evening, he called me one last time and asked how far Fort Smith is from Neosho, again I would give him a different answer— 130 miles. No rational person would accuse me of contradicting myself, since each question was asked from a different reference point. Three different answers were given, but all three were correct. Likewise, the New Testament records three different answers given to the question, “What must I do to be saved,” because the sinners who asked these questions were at different places of understanding on the road to salvation.

The Philippian jailor was commanded to
believe in Christ, because he had not yet heard and believed the saving message of Jesus (Acts 16:31-32; Romans 10:17). It would have been pointless for Paul and Silas to command the jailor to repent and/or be baptized when he had not yet even heard the Gospel. If today, a Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, asked a Christian the same question the Philippian jailor asked Paul and Silas, the same answer would need to be given.

Before ever teaching a Muslim about the essentiality of repentance and baptism, he first must express belief in Jesus as the Son of God. If this step (i.e.,
believing) is never taken on the road to
salvation, the other steps are
meaningless. [NOTE: The Bible reveals
that after Paul and Silas “spoke the word of the Lord” to the jailor and his
household, they believed and
“immediately” were baptized (Acts 16:33).

By implication, Paul and Silas must have
taught the jailor and his family about the essentiality of baptism after stressing the need to “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ” (cf. Acts 8:35-36,38). Question: If water baptism has nothing to do with salvation, then why were the jailor and his household immersed in water not long after midnight (cf. Acts 16:25,33)?]

The Jews on Pentecost had already heard Peter’s sermon when they asked their question about salvation (Acts 2:37). Peter knew that they already believed,and that such belief came from hearing the message he preached (cf. Romans10:17). The Jews had passed the point of belief (being “pricked in their heart”), and were told to “repent and be baptized” in order to obtain salvation (cf. Mark 16:16).

Still, someone might wonder why
Ananias told Saul neither to believe nor
repent when he informed him about how to have his sins washed away. The
reason: Saul already was a penitent
believer in Christ by the time he came in contact with Ananias. Saul did not need to be told to believe or repent, since he had already done so. He knew the Lord existed, having spoken directly with Him on the road to Damascus, and he expressed a penitent attitude by praying to God and fasting for three days (Acts 9:9,11). At this point, Saul lacked only one thing: he needed to be baptized (Acts 22:16).

The reason these sinners were told three different things regarding salvation was because they were at different starting points when given the various answers. It is as if the jailor were in Jackson, Tennessee, the Jews on Pentecost in Little Rock, Arkansas, and Saul in Fort Smith. All wanted to go to the same place, but were at different starting points when they asked the question,“What must I do to be saved?” The unbeliever was told to believe. The
believers were told to repent. And the
penitent believer was told to be
baptized. The three statements may be
different, but they are not contradictory.
For a person to become a child of God,
he or she must do all three (see John
8:24; Luke 13:3,5; Matthew 28:19; Mark
16:16).
Christianity Etc › Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 11:38am On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
I was just wondering, why did angels only appear in male form? Is it that there are no female angels or what? What does God have against women exactly, anyone?
BOTH male and female were created in HIS IMAGE.
Christianity Etc › Re: Am I Destined To Sin As God Already Knows What I Will Do Next? by malvisguy212: 10:02am On Aug 02, 2015
gabazin080:
but dere is somewhere in d Bible dat says God knows everything nd can do anything. but ur words av contradicted that word of God
God pre-determined, not the IDENTITY of the saved,but the CHARACTER of the saved.

IDENTITY OR CHARACTER?
What is foreknown by God in these verses? Personal identity? Or Character, purpose & plan?

Romans 8:29-30, "For whom he
did foreknow, he also did
predestinate to be conformed
to the IMAGE of his Son, that he
might be the firstborn among
many brethren. Moreover whom
he did predestinate, them he
also called: and whom he called,
them he also justified: and
whom he justified, them he also
glorified."

1 Corinthians 2:7, "But we speak
the wisdom of God in a mystery,
even the hidden WISDOM, which
God ordained before the world
unto our glory:"

Remember, God is not a respecter of
persons (Acts 10:34; Romans 2:11-12;
1 Peter 1:17). And if God already predestinate our character, then the save need not to worry about the devil ,right? If the saved need not to worry about the devil , why did God say the saved need to beware? (1 Peter
5:cool.

Acts 4:28,
"For to do whatsoever thy hand and
thy counsel DETERMINED BEFORE to be done."

What was "DETERMINED BEFORE?" The death of Jesus! This death had been prophesied as a part of God's plan (Luke 22:21-22; Acts 2:22-23). The Jews did not
realize that they were fulfilling God's plan and He did not force them to kill His Son; they were accountable for their own actions.

Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Misquoted “violent Verses” In The Holy Quran by malvisguy212: 9:37am On Aug 02, 2015
JustPeace01 you are very good lying, open your eyes, fighting is prescribe for All muslims according to the quran dislike it mean you break the ruled of Allan:

Surah 2:216: Fighting is prescribed
for you , and ye dislike it. But it is
possible that you dislike a thing
which is good for you and that you
love a thing which is bad for you. But
God knoweth, and you know
not.” (Yusuf Ali)

Muslim apologists deceitfully lie that
Islamic wars are always defensive in
nature. The following Qur’anic verse
exposes this lie.

Surah 9:29: FIGHT THOSE WHO BELIEVE NOT IN ALLAH nor the Last Day, NOR
HOLD THAT FORBIDDEN WHICH HATH BEEN FORBIDDEN BY Allah AND HIS MESSENGERS , nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, even if they are the
People of the Book, until they pay
the Jizya with willing submission
and feel themselves subdued. (Yusuf
Ali)

Notice, this Qur’anic verse does not
command Muslims to fight only those
who attack them but to “FIGHT THOSE WHO BELIEVE NOT IN ALLAH.” It also commands Muslims to fight all those who do not “HOLD THAT FORBIDDEN WHICH HATH BEEN FORBIDDEN BY Allah AND HIS MESSENGERS .” This means that if you do not forbid for yourselves that which was forbidden by Allah, such as the eating of pork, then Muslims have every right to fight you. Also, Muslims are commanded to fight all those who do not acknowledge Islam as “the religion of Truth.”

Do the words in Surah 9:29 sound like
Allah is commanding Muslims to fight
only defensive wars? Is it not crystal clear that it is an unmistakable commandment to wage offensive wars against all those who do not believe in Allah, Muhammad, islam or the teachings of the Qur’an?

Actually Surah 9:29 is a commandment
from Allah to fight the “People of the
Book.” The term, “People of the Book”

An infidel, who converts to Islam by
mistake or to escape death or
persecution at the hands of Muslims,
cannot thereafter leave Islam. Death is
the only Islamic way out!

Surah 4:89: They wish that you reject
Faith, as they have rejected Faith,
and thus that you all become equal
like one another. So take not
Auliya’ (protectors or friends) from
them, till they emigrate in the Way of
Allah (to Muhammad). But if they
turn back from Islam, take hold of
them and kill them wherever you
find them and take neither
Auliya’ (protectors or friends) nor
helpers from them.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212(op): 6:58am On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
But the cults such as Islam easily fall precisely under the premise of “God hates Religion”; after all, I observe no one more committed to their religion than an Islamic Fundamentalist. Although the Muslim serves a different god (Allah is not the God of the Bible), he too is seeking to appease his god by doing. That is “works based theology” no matter how you slice it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Shepherd Psalm by malvisguy212(op): 6:55am On Aug 02, 2015
Seun, Ishilove, Rockstation, Farano, Obinoscopy, Lalasticlala
Christianity Etc › Re: End OF Days[end OF The Harvest] by malvisguy212(op): 6:53am On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
Seun, Ishilove, Rockstation, Farano, Standd, Obinoscopy, Lalasticlala This thread deserve frontage, do justice pleased.
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by malvisguy212: 11:51am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Jesus Christ Malvisguy which day will you stop this nonsensical copy and paste in your life...Now you have shifted from acknowledging the younger fables copied from the older fables and moved on to the Comparatives of the God claims, i would only leave you to take on that claims with your fellow theists because as far as am concern all your claims are all born out of myths

All the claims of these God concepts are exactly the same as the claim of yours....
(Biblical claims One man, other cultures claims group of persons) Hereditary and Genetics has shown the group of persons is more plausible. . .
And which scientific theory says life began from a single celled organism?
(Again this shows you need to read malvisguy, bible says one man and you want to reconcile it with a unicellular organism?

For crying out loud Man is Multi Cellular organism not single
the argument was that "the flood is a myth" the fact that many religion give similar account of the flood indicate its actually happened. Peace!!

What about the rest of my post ?
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by malvisguy212: 11:07am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
I love this!
This is exactly the point, comparative similarities in the fables.… The similarities found in the two cultures are as a result of cultural assimilation, a younger culture borrowing myths from an older one because they were supposedly just One flood... The similarities in Gilgamesh and noah fables shows the younger must have copied from the older which is the point


So why then did you not mention that those other fables Gilgamesh epic and Vishnu myth were written thousands of years before the Noah story?
good, all you need to do is to compear the claimed of this gods with the christians God, most of this gods claims human population being with some group of people.science confirmed just as the bible say , life began with a single cell organism . Here is more amazing proved of the bible:

There are Things that no man has ever
known, or could conceivably have known,until our century. For this would prove that someone greater than a man had written those books.

Job 38:24 By what way is the light
parted, which scattereth the east wind
upon the earth?
In the book of Job, Job is asked by a
person calling himself God, a list of
questions intended to show him how
small Job really was in comparison with
the universe around him. This particular
question demands of Job how the light
was parted (by day into night) and how
that light makes the east wind blow.
Now we, today, can answer that
question. Job could not. The light causes
the east wind to blow because the dawn
heats the air that has been cooled all
night. As the air cooled, it had contracted
until it basically reached an equilibrium.
Then when dawn creeps towards the
horizon it begins to heat the air nearby,
and as this air is heated it expands,
causing a higher pressure than the still-
cool air of the night, which makes the
east wind “blow”.
We know this! God knew this! But NO
ONE ELSE COULD HAVE KNOWN THAT
LIGHT CAUSES WIND! No one in the
entire planet suspected a connection
between light and wind until around 500
years ago! Until then no one really had
the faintest clue how light really worked!
Only God could have inspired that
section of Job, probably written thirty-
five CENTURIES ago!!
Furthermore, when focusing on the first
part of that verse “the way light is
parted”, the context indicates that the
“parting” is referring to day and night –
something God seems pretty proud of in
Genesis 1. And Job could not have
known how the light was parted, for in
Job’s day the world was believed to be
FLAT!
We, today, know that the light is parted
because the Earth revolves on its own
axis, and faces a constantly moving
hemisphere towards the sun. But in Job’s
day, NOONE KNEW THAT! The exact
dating of Job is much debated, but by
internal evidence it seems that it was
written perhaps as early as 1700 BC,
although some skeptics place it as late as
800 BC.
But the earliest secular reference to a
spherical Earth is made by Pythagoreas
in 570 BC! A few extremely vague hints at
it were made previous to that, but
nothing that could have inspired the
author of Job. But the “God” who asked
these questions of Job knew that the
Earth was spherical, because…

Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the
springs of the sea? or hast thou walked
in the search of the depth?
We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of
the sea]“, I.E., the deepest part of the
ocean, until 1875 when we discovered
the deepest point on Earth, the
Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench
(although we weren’t sure it was the
deepest point until much later). We
didn’t fully survey it until 1951. We didn’t
actually “walk” in it until 1960!
But how does this prove the existence of
God? Simply the fact that in most ancient
cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The
Greek word abyss, used for the deep
ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And
3500 years ago, only God could have
known with such certainty that the ocean
did in fact have a “depth”!!
Furthermore, in the same verse, a
completely separate proof exists; for to
the ancient mind, the idea of a “spring”
in the midst of the sea was unthinkable
and illogical. Why would there be water
pouring INTO the sea from underground
– the sea is where water came from! And
mankind for all his technological
achievements didn’t discover underwater
springs until 1949 – A.D.! Almost four
millennium after Job was written! And
even then, it wasn’t confirmed until 1960,
and it wasn’t until 1979 that human
beings first saw deep-sea springs with
their own eyes! No one but God could
possibly have known they existed four
thousand years ago!
Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the
breadth of the earth? declare if thou
knowest it all.
Man didn’t measure the circumference
(“breadth”) of the Earth with even remote
accuracy until Eratosthenes did it in
about 240 BC. But God knew exactly how
large it was. For He sits “above the circle
of it”.
Job 38:19 Where is the way where light
dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is
the place thereof,
Until roughly the time of Newton, no one
knew that there was a “way” where light
“dwells” – that is, a direction where light
comes from. Photons, the particles that
carry and, for all practical purposes, are
light, weren’t discovered until Einstein.
The ancient Greeks, arguably the most
scientifically advanced of the ancient
cultures, believed what we perceived as
light was actually “feeling rays” sent by
the eye to “look” at the objects, which
reflected them and made a picture.
None of the Greeks seemed to realize
that the idea begged the question of why
we couldn’t see in the dark. And they had
had the clearest ideas on light to date!
Well… except for what God wrote in Job,
a thousand years before. Only God knew
there was a place where light came from
4,000 years ago.
No one really hit on the right idea –
except in Job – until about 1000 A.D
when the Arabic mathematician Alhazen
realized the flaws in the Greek thinking.
And it took another 500 years for his
ideas to influence Europe through men
like Galileo and Newton. And we didn’t
REALLY start to understand it until a
century ago.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over
the empty place, and hangeth the earth
upon nothing.
According to everyone before 570 BC, the
Earth was flat. Even then, and for
millennia afterwards, the Earth was held
up by something. For the Greeks it was
on the shoulders of the god Atlas. For the
American Indians it was supported on
the back of a giant turtle. Other cultures
believed it was on the back of a hog,
water buffalo, snake, or elephant. These
ideas had the delightful side-benefit of
explaining earthquakes, since it logically
follows the theory that if Earth was on an
elephant’s back and the elephant itched,
the Earth would move.
The idea of the Earth literally hanging on
NOTHING – as in, an Earth in free-fall
through space – was one that no ancient
mind could have grasped. Newton’s
famous “apple incident” gave us the first
real clue as to how gravity operated to
control bodies at great distances. But
3500 years ago?
Only God could have known. This
constitutes the first solid proof that
the God of the Bible exists. Not just a
need for Him to exist, but a
demonstrated scientific proof that a
Being wiser than man who knew things
no man could possibly have known,
existed. And that the Bible reveals that
Being.

http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by malvisguy212: 10:24am On Aug 01, 2015
menesheh:
whats the justification of the bible - god. the bible contains events and activities that actually happened and those ones that are myth. we know that red sea, Israel, Egypt, culture of Jews etc existed but the idea of Noah's ship, first destruction of the first world with flood and numerous fairies happened, no, they have no scientific evidence that supports stories.
Genesis 7:19-23 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. … and the mountains were covered. And all flesh died that moved upon the earth,… All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.… and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

This is God’s version.So did this happen?
Was there a world-wide flood? Let’s ask
the ancient East Indians, as quoted in
the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica:
(Deluge article)
“The Indian [flood] tradition exists in
several forms. The earliest is preserved
in the Satapatha Brahmana. It is there
related that Manu, the first man, the son of the sun-god Vivasvat, found, in
bathing, small fish, … it revealed to
Manu the time of the flood, and bade
him construct a ship for his deliverance.
When the time came, Manu,
unaccompanied, went on board; …”
More details are added in another
version, the Mahabharata, where “Manu,… embarks with the seven rishis, or wise men, and takes with him all kinds of seed. The fish announces himself as the God Brahman…”. (Ibid)

The similarity to the Biblical flood legend is obvious; one righteous man
commanded by God to build a boat, then later seven other people get into the boat to escape a flood, after being
warned by God one week in advance (see Genesis 7:10), taking with them seeds to repopulate the Earth, and a third version adds that animals were also taken. We find the same details, and more, in the more famous Babylonian epic, Gilgamesh.

The Epic of Gilgamesh was written
perhaps as early as 2100 BC, and on
Tablet XI it talks of the story of
Utnapishtim, which means “He who
found life” – I.E., the man who was saved from the flood. You can read this yourself on Tablet XI, which is all over the internet, but to summarize it says
“When their heart led the great gods to
produce the flood”, they told
Utnapishtim, who plays the part of Noah in this version, “Tear down (this) house,build a ship! Give up possessions, seek your life. Despise property and keep the soul alive. Aboard the ship take the seed of all living things.” So Utnapishtim did, then after loading the boat… “…the south-storm blew, gathering speed as it blew, submerging the mountains, … [later after the rain stopped] I looked about for coast lines in the expanse of the sea … On Mount Nisir the ship came to a halt. … I sent forth and set free a dove. The dove went forth, but came back; There was no resting-place for it and she turned round. [then he sent forth a swallow, then a raven, and the raven didn't return because the waters had receded]” Afterwards, Utnapishtim held a sacrifice (cf Genesis 8:20), and then one of the Gods came and blessed the survivors.

The similarities between that and
Genesis are astounding; mountains
covered, the three birds released, the
forewarning to build a ship, seeds and
animals taken, ship resting on a
mountain, etc.


The book of Daniel gives an accurate
prediction of world events. Including the rise of the Greek empire followed by the Rome Empire which split into several pieces after its collapse.
http://ncbible.org/resources/Danielcomm02.html
Christianity Etc › Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by malvisguy212: 8:39am On Aug 01, 2015
menesheh:
Ancient city discovered to actually existed is not proof of any God's existence.
the op was not talking about the existence of God,he say, evidence that the bible is real.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine That Jesus Never Practiced by malvisguy212: 9:13pm On Jul 31, 2015
[quote author=Bakrabas post=36459769][/quote]Jesus did not wrote any book ,the gospel of luke and acts were written by luke.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 6:27pm On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@truthman2012 if she was suspended on the air, how far did she go before getting suspendedhuh? and how did she go back to the building? was she taken back to the building by air "calling jesus" or did you fly to her "calling jesus", then picked her up back to the building yourself? just curious. thanks for your anticipated answer.
cannal minded man cannot know the nature of God. Miracle doesent happened in muslims home.
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:18am On Jul 31, 2015
Jagoon:
So in all probability it was very likely it was a demon that visited mohamed pretending to be from God. And if the fruits of islam which was started after this demonic visitation is anything to go by, we can safely conclude that islam is from satan himself
that is the faulty foundation islam is build upon, bible say if the foundation is faulty what can the righteous do? Thank you bro .
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 8:55am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
yes malvisguy212 there are wrong! these translations has been concocted either by you or from an islamophobe site.
okay!!! You know more than yusuf Ali. When will you translate your version of the quran?
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 8:52am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@malvisguy212 and if you are talking about gabriel not introducing himself, do you expect him to say,"how far muhammed my padi, my name na gabriel"? thats not a point bro
as a matter of fact, when Gabriel appear to Mary and Zakaria, they were afraid, then the angel say , FEAR NOT. That's how God angel behave , the word "fear not" indicate he is not a violence angel. Have a nice day.
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 8:47am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
if i can get your point, you are claiming that muhammad worshiped Allah as a god before the advent of islam, if thats the case get your refutal here:www.nairaland.com/2290158/why-muhammads-father-named-abd-allah, cuz this is a reiterated question. wink you've not accepted my challenge yet, trying to divert my attention? try harder!
did you read truthman2012 post ?, YOU, try hader.
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 8:42am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@malvisguy212 and if you are talking about gabriel not introducing himself, do you expect him to say,"how far muhammed my padi, my name na gabriel"? thats not a point bro
go and read the account of the true angel Gabriel visitation to Mary , Zakaria and the rest. All true angel of God introduced themselves because they know satan can disguise himself to deceive people, nonetheless bible encourage us to even test the spirit if they are from God, did muhammed believe the angel when he first saw him ? NO, its was kadijah and waraqa who never saw what happened. say to muhammed, what he saw was an angel.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 8:12am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
lol, it doesnt make sense to you cuz its the truth, isnt it an irony that the truth is bitter when told?
are all this translations wrong?

Surah 17:59:
“And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false : We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

“Nothing hindered us from sending
(thee) with miracles, except that the
former (nations) have charged them with imposture. We gave unto (the
tribe of) Thamud, (at their demand),
the she-camel visible (to their sight);
yet they dealt unjustly with her: And
we send not (a prophet) with
miracles , but to strike terror.” (Sale)

“What stopped us from sending the
miracles is that the previous
generations have rejected them. For
example, we showed Thamoud the
camel, a profound (miracle), but
they transgressed against it. We sent
the miracles only to instill
reverence.” (Khalifa)
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 7:39am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
thats good, you are becoming bold. since you are good at copy and paste work without doing proper research, copy and paste the account for me to see wink, how bout my proposal? or have you agreed to save to pitiful face? if thats the case, i can understand that.
(96.15). (Bukahri Volume 9, Book
87, Number 111)
The commencement of the Divine
Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the
form of good righteous (true) dreams in
his sleep. He never had a dream but that
it came true like bright day light. He used
to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira
where he used to worship(Allah Alone)
continuously for many (days) nights. He
used to take with him the journey food
for that (stay) and then come back to (his
wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise
again for another period to stay, till
suddenly the Truth descended upon him
while he was in the cave of Hira. The
angel came to him in it and asked him to
read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know
how to read." (The Prophet added), "The
angel caught me (FORCEFULLY) AND
PRESSED ME SO HARD THAT I COULD NOT
BEAR IT ANY MORE . He then released me
and again asked me to read, and I
replied, "I do not know how to read,"
WHEREUPON HE CAUGHT ME AGAIN AND
PRESSED ME THE SECOND TIME TILL I
COULD NOT BEAR IT ANYMORE. He then
released me and asked me again to read,
but again I replied, "I do not know how to
read (or, what shall I read?)."
THEREUPON GHHE CAUT ME FOR THE
THIRD TIME AND PRESSED ME and then
released me and said, "Read: In the
Name of your Lord, Who has created (all
that exists). Has created man from a clot.
Read and Your Lord is Most
Generous...up to.... ..that which he knew
not."

Muhammad was in the cave of Hira to
worship Allah alone before the Truth
descended upon him. It means he had
been worshiping Allah before islam. As
you know, Muhammad's father's name is Abduallah, meaning servant of Allah. They are pagan and they worship Allah.

Gabriel approach muhammed without saying anything or introduced himself, he just press him and say read , Gabriel begins his revelation with lies.
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 7:20am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
alright, but are you saying READ IN THE NAME OF YOUR LORD WHOM CREATED YOU are words of violence? lol you have no point, and oh yes! hope you saw my refutal on that link you gave me? farewell bro wink
go and read the account again.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 7:18am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
it so funny how these christians folks console themselves when they are being put to shame, why didnt malvisguy212 reply my refutal to his op? one simple word caused it, COWARDICE is the word.
your post make no sense.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 10:58pm On Jul 30, 2015
johnydon22:
It means you choose the ones you believe same way muslims choose theirs yet you accuse them of not believing in miracles because they don't believe yours... You are as guilty as the ones you accuse
Allah refrain from sending sign long before muhammed. And the fact that muhammed admits, he cannot performed miracle because he is only a human mean we have to question the splitting of the moon, who empowered him ?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 10:44pm On Jul 30, 2015
johnydon22:
Funny enough i saw you arguing that God never split the moon through muhammed.. so you don't believe in miracles either and you are accusing others when they don't believe your own claim? Think about it ..
if I say God did not split the moon through muhammed, does it mean I never believe in miracle or I did not believe in the "splitting of the moon" ?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by malvisguy212: 10:00pm On Jul 30, 2015
LushGreenz:
Brethren, please accept me and pardon my belated participation, and more so what I'm about put in;I like to inquire if there's anyone in the house who's somewhat familiar with Panam Percy Paul's songs, there's this very album titled "Nigeria I Love You",with singles like Christabel, Jesus Is The Rock, Learn To Love, Living In The City etc I've for a very long time searched every Gospel Music outlets around me to no avail. I can't even find any of the songs online. Those days,I would listen from a cassette player... I should think my dad bought the audio cassette around 1990 or so.

So if there's a proud owner of this album CD/cassette, kindly borrow that I may burn/dub. I wouldn't mind sending my address so you could have it mailed kindly to me.

God bless you all.
My regards to Ayoku777 & Malvisguy212
Good evening my Good friend, may God bless you for this wonderful word of encouragement. I notice you have been trying to send me an email, sorry , I change my phone, my email wasent activated yet. Bless you.
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:55pm On Jul 30, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@malvisguy212 if i told you that the first revelation of the quran to muhammad is "READ! in the name of your lord whom created you" and what did muhammad say? he answered I CANNOT READ. you can research to confirm though.
which angel begin their revelation with violence, Gabriel in the bible is not the Gabriel in the quran, when Gabriel meet Zakaria Mary and Joseph, there is no mention of violence or press the person hard, why is muhammed own different? Muhammed even admits an evil spirit attack him, it was his wife kadijah a business woman who convinced him what he saw was an angel. Is she a prophetess? Or is there any record of kadijah knowing the true God ?
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:36pm On Jul 30, 2015
lexiconkabir:
at last you mentioned me! what do you think about this bible verse? isiah 29:11-12. number 1. explain impeccably
what is your problem with num 1 ?
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 9:23pm On Jul 30, 2015
lexiconkabir:
at last you mentioned me! what do you think about this bible verse? isiah 29:11-12.
isaiah 29:11-12
11The entire vision will be to you like the words of a sealed book, which when they give it to the one who is literate, saying,“Please read this,” he will say, “I cannot,for it is sealed.” 12Then the book will be given to the one who is illiterate, saying,“Please read this.” And he will say, “I cannot read.”

Notice here, the book is given to both the learn and unlearn and they both can not read it because it was seal, here what revelation say:

Revelation 5
The Scroll and the Lamb
5 Then I saw in the right hand of him
who sat on the throne a SCROLL with
writing on both sides and SEALED with
seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel
proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is
worthy to break the seals and open the
scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on
earth or under the earth could open the
scroll or even look inside it. 4 I wept and
wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed.
He is able to open the scroll and its
seven seals.” 6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[ a] of God sent out into all the earth. 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne. 8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain,
and with your blood you purchased for
God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.

JESUS IS THE LAMB OF GOD, and this book in isaiah 29 was saying, both the literate and the illiterate cannot read the book, surly is a spiritual book and Jesus was able to open it.
Islam › Re: If These Quranic Verses Are True, Then What Is The Problem? by malvisguy212: 8:04pm On Jul 30, 2015
lexiconkabir:
Why does it seem as if these christian folks are cowards, they always want all their questions answered by muslims in this forum, but when you ask them a question that will expose them, they either try to discredit it or ignore it and bring up ridiculous arguments that will pave way for the exposing question to be forgotten. They are just being unreasonably dumb!
nonsense, which of your question has not been answer?

https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity

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