Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:23am On Dec 24, 2014 |
frosbel: I don't believe it either.
But you cannot believe in something weird and then mock others who also believe in something weird. I believe in my heart that God can makes and creature speak ,it not weird to me, but it weird to the skeptic . But I think the question I ask is a very good question. Who empowered muhammed to split the moon? You bring this up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:15am On Dec 24, 2014 |
frosbel: Not at all, but if this is possible why is it not possible to split the moon in half  long before that happen (if it true) allah has already stop sending sign. so who empower muhammed to split the moon? Satan or God? Will go change is mind if it him? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:12am On Dec 24, 2014 |
truthman2012: @Mulvisguy
I love the op, it is great.
I just pray their spiritual eyes be opened to see the truth. God bless you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:11am On Dec 24, 2014 |
frosbel: ^^^^
Hypocrite....bashing Islam , lol. 
Do you believe that snakes and donkeys talk ?
You better go and sort out the contradictions in your book first. so you believe God is incapable of making a donkey and snake talke? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:09am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Ifeann: Oh my. This is a damning observation. Yet some ignorant Muslims claim he performed miracles.
The one I find the funniest is that he split the moon in half , usually a challenge to Moses splitting the red sea.
If he split the moon in half why isn't this astronomical event not recorded by other civilisations at that time. God bless you my sister. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 11:07am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:
Deu 34: 5 And Moses the servant of the LORD died there in Moab, as the LORD had said.
Deu 34:10 Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
You mean he wrote the above too
And when the foundation is shaky, what will happen to the building?
If you can't read, then lets leave it there.  Moses wrote the book of deutoronumy,but he did not wrote the last chapter http://www.insight.org/resources/bible/deuteronomy.htmlThe bible say if the foundation is shaky what can the righteous do? The bible make it clear that Jesus is our new foundation, the foundation of Adam and eve is shaken, isaiah say he is our corner stone. You did not quote the verse, so your claim is false. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 10:48am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: I know what i'm saying.
Who is the author of the first 5books of the OT?
Read Leviticus for yourself. Moses. He wrote the first five books of the Bible, referred to as the Pentateuch.the Foundation of the bible. Quote the verse or remain silent. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 10:43am On Dec 24, 2014 |
malvisguy212: According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock. Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan) And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock. Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)
As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?
1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59. 2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not believe in them. 3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.
More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these passages is in Surah 17:90-93: They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)
We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view: As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.
Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.
The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)
How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’ miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 10:39am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Yes, the god in the bible is not the true god, though in some place in the bible the true God is portrayed, but in most places we have the pagan god...example is that bible god that was eating burt animals on alter you are soo confused, at first you say the bible God is not the true God but later you say Although the quality of the true God is portrayed,can the lying deity portray The true God?. Provide the verse that say God did what you claim. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Crisis In Muslims' Heaven? by malvisguy212: 10:21am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Welcome Truthman |
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 10:14am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: The father of Jesus love sacrifice Allah (swt) does not  yes, that is the point, God in the bible is different from the Allah in the quran. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 9:58am On Dec 24, 2014 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 9:53am On Dec 24, 2014 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Please Christians Explain This For Me by malvisguy212: 8:03am On Dec 24, 2014 |
johnydon22: 1st timothy chapter 2 from verse 11 to 15 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. i do not permit any woman to teach or assume authority over a man;she must be quiet. for Adam was formed first then Eve. and Adam was not the one deceived it was the woman. it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. but women will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety if we go by your way of thinking, then a woman cannot not pray or sing in the church,what the bible is saying is difference from what your corrupted mind is thinking. The bible say'' I will pour out my spirit,your young men and DAUGHTER will see vision and dream dreamed'' This prophecy do not go to only men but women. what paul really mean is the gift of the spirit is for all gender,both men and women can have this gift and when the women had it she should not assume authority over the man,she should respect the man, the woman was created because God want the earth to multiply. We know for sure that Paul viewed Adam as a type of Christ. We also know for sure that he viewed marriage as type of the relationship between Christ and the church in which the role of husband is a type of Christ and the role of the wife is a type of the Church. Thus, we can justifiably extrapolate that Paul also viewed Eve as a type of the Church. This is what paul is saying in the other verse; For Adam (type of Christ) was formed first, then Eve (type of Church) and Adam (type of Christ) was not deceived, but the woman (type of Church) was deceived and became a transgressor . Yet she (the Church) will be saved through childbearing (bearing fruit in Christ)if they (man and woman) continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 7:25am On Dec 24, 2014 |
Mathematical: ISLAM IS TRUELY A RELIGION OF PEACE..
WAY MOST PRACTICE IT SO NOT APPALLING how is islam a peaceful religion?when you preach to people and the people refused to here you, then you force it on them,that is what islam preach.quran 6:151 .'' don't take life EXCEPT for just cause '' this verse does not preach peace my friend,this verse gives man a reason or an excuse to kill,this verse gives two option,accept peace or die,forcing the freewill of God on someone, Compared with this verse,matthew 5:44'' .But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you'' In this verse there is no two option, it just ONE and it LOVE.when you preach christianity on someone and he refused, jesus say dust your feat and go. Romans 10:14.How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? |
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Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by malvisguy212: 1:58pm On Dec 23, 2014 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Y Is God So Greedy With Is Miracles? by malvisguy212: 8:37am On Dec 23, 2014 |
Maquiptarepzy: bro,how do u receiv miracles frm God.....abeg frm experienc why do you worship God? Do you love Him or your desire is miracle? Our purpose for bing here is to love God or hate him? Seek him first then all what you ask shall be giving to you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Only For Mature Christians And Muslims ( Misquote Verses in the Quran and Bible) by malvisguy212: 8:15am On Dec 23, 2014 |
personal59: Ahhh why are u so dense I said I need mature ppl not a secondary school student haba I tell u say I need ur comment? If u don't knw what been mature mean I think u need to see ur seniors in !etween ss2-ss3 some ss1 std might do justice too not sure though fool how is islam a peaceful religion?when you preach to people and the people refused to here you, then you force it on them,that is what islam preach.quran 6:151 .'' don't take life EXCEPT for just cause '' this verse does not preach peace my friend,this verse gives man a reason or an excuse to kill,this verse gives two option,accept peace or die,forcing the freewill of God on someone, Compared with this verse,matthew 5:44'' .But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you'' In this verse there is no two option, it just ONE and it LOVE.when you preach christianity on someone and he refused, jesus say dust your feat and go. Romans 10:14.How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Y Is God So Greedy With Is Miracles? by malvisguy212: 12:10am On Dec 23, 2014 |
Maquiptarepzy: Yes,y is he so greedy?wat does it take him to answer prayers immediatly?...y does he requir us to pray till eternity b4 a coincidential prayer is being anserd?....y does he requir our worshiping im as a ransom b4 doing his duties?..if he is realy my father,y is my earthily father performin far greater dan im,y does he allow so much evil today?y cnt he just eliminate d sole father of evil?y is he exposing us to satan,caus i realy dnt understand,they r both immotal,yet he expects we mortal to b able to avoid temptation,dat realy doesnt make any sense,we ar powerless,our only backbone iz moral,he just keeps quite in heaven watchin iz followers perish.since av bin born,av neva heard a single voic frm im even owin to d fact dat i pray and fast...still my prayers dnt get anserd..of course i expect some folks to condemn me dat i dnt pray well,well no1 here can boost of hearin directly frm God except some fictional dreams or visions...am sure he sees d scam behind d sole call pastors,yet he neva reveald to der followers d real church to Go..does dat means dat evil exist and prayers r not being anserd because of d absenc or the quietness of God and not because of The presence of God? Philippians 2:4 Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others. 1 Corinthians 10:24 Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. Timothy 3:2-4 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, James 4:1-2 What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have, because you do not ask. Luke 6:32-34 “If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Great Bible Contradictions by malvisguy212: 11:40pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
ROSSIKE: They claim it was written by men writing ''under the inspiration of God''. You're saying the creator of the universe (some scientists now think it's actually a multiverse) inspired men on planet earth to write a book full of orders from him to kill and rap.e people, and murder children? A book filled with threats to kill, and containing basic errors & contradictions?
Tell me something. Do you know the size of the universe?
Meanwhile, ''The "doctrine of the inerrancy of Scripture" held by the Catholic Church, as expressed by the Second Vatican Council, is that "the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation."
- Second Vatican Council, Dei Verbum (Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation), 11
Care to share some instances of this ''misinterpretation'' with us, based on your research? We await in earnest. king james bible translator,translate it like God created evil, evil is not a created thing, you can't see evil,but the king jame say God created evil; I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. ( Isaiah 45:7, KJV) the KJV was produced using a limited number of medieval manuscripts that did not represent the earliest Alexandrian set of manuscripts. It was produce about 400 years ago during the england medieval period. The original word was not evil.Râ‛âh, the Hebrew word translated "evil" in the KJV often refers to adversity or calamity. There are two forms of the word. Strong's H7451a most often refers to moral evil, whereas Strong's H7451b (the form used here) most often refers to calamity or distress. Obviously, "calamity" is a better antonym of. "peace" than "evil." some biblical translation say God repent,what the bible is saying about God repented is difference of what people take it as,Repentance is the act of turning away from one's sin to righteous behavior.did God sin? No, but some translation say God repent. Example now,all this verses say God repented; And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. ( Exodus 32:14) And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite. ( 2 Samuel 24:16) And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. ( Jonah 3:10) Does this mean that God is a sinner and is in need of repentance? The Bible is quite clear that God is not the author of evil and insists that He is incapable of doing so. Is this a contradiction? No All the verses above, and others, come from the Hebrew Old Testament. The word translated "repented" is the Hebrew verb nâcham (Strong's H5162). It has a number of meanings, including "to be sorry," "console oneself," "repent," "regret," and "be comforted."3 The actual meaning intended is determined from the context. For example, the King James version translates Genesis 6:6 as "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." The New American Standard translates the verse as "The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart." So my friend rossike, it is not a contradiction,but dew to english translation. The opinion of men are were the author add there opinion to complete a statement to fit in. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Great Bible Contradictions by malvisguy212: 8:31pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
adexsimply: don't you get? The fact that there's any form of inaccuracy in the book puts a big question mark on the whole content christians don't say the bible was written by God himself as the muslims claim the quran was written. There are a lot of english misinterpretation most people don't know. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 8:01pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: See ehn Moses.
I don't have your time.
Good manners and caracter that is it. ok. Make I no stress you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 7:21pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:
You know next to nothing. is that all what you can say?don't you know a sinner can have good manners? Matthew 5:46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 6:40pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: If you cant read then lets leave it there, for i have no time to waste with you.
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet never used bad language neither a 'Fahish nor a Mutafahish. [size=15pt] He used to say 'The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character . [/size] ' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759) "
Thats all i can do ^^
Read that thread yourself. bible say even the tax collector and sinner can do more than this, do you not know the fruit of the spirit? How can you know the fruit of the spirit is in you? You are talking about MANNER'S, dint you know even the sinners has good manner? Well you are a muslim, you don't understand the nature of God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 5:17pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 3:55pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: List 10 qualities of Jesus you think you have, or at least you are adhering to.
"There are" okay so you believe you are not among?
Can you please mention 5 of them. Galatians 5:22-23New International Version (NIV) 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self- control. Against such things there is no law. And you, list 5 quality muhammed have that you think you have. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 3:31pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 3:25pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Frosbel is like the lurkwarm christian,very disgusting in the side of God, that why God say ''I will spew the out of my mouth'' believe in one verse and then disagree the other verse,neither cold nor hot, this are the christian that cast serious doubt on the elect sake to question there faith.
There is only one reference in the Bible to a ‘lukewarm’ Christian and that is Revelation 3:15-16 which say;"I know your deeds, that you are neither cold not hot. I wish you were either one of the other! So, because you are. lukewarm - neither hot nor cold - I am. about to spit you out of my mouth" But the end verse teaches that God still love them and the door is open for them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 3:17pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Jack65: Is that all you saw? How about his conversion story and the discrepancies ? I quote his mistake for you as an example, when you misinterpreted a single verse, then your knowledge of the scripture need to be question.this is not the first time we are seeing this,a guy has already bring this topic here. https://www.nairaland.com/1935442/femi-aribasala-trinity-doctrine. Go through the thread and view my respond. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Born On December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' Birthday? by malvisguy212: 3:13pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Unbias: Individuals can celebrate their birthdays on a day or month which is not the actual day or month if circumstance demands so. We have heard of occult shrines becoming church sites after revivals. Does it now imply that whoever worships Jesus in shrines converted to churches are still worshipping Idols? NO. This is the situation surrounding both Christmas and Easter celebrations in christiandom.
Celebrating christmas on the 25th of Dec. or any other day and month or not celebrating it at all will neither endorse nor disqualify anyone as a candidate of paradise.
In a nutshell Malvisguy212, I share your view. God bless you bro, long time? Hope all is well? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 7:35am On Dec 22, 2014 |
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