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Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:23am On Dec 24, 2014
frosbel:
I don't believe it either.

But you cannot believe in something weird and then mock others who also believe in something weird.
I believe in my heart that God can makes and creature speak ,it not weird to me, but it weird to the skeptic . But I think the question I ask is a very good question. Who empowered muhammed to split the moon?
You bring this up.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:15am On Dec 24, 2014
frosbel:
Not at all, but if this is possible why is it not possible to split the moon in half sad
long before that happen (if it true) allah has already stop sending sign. so who empower muhammed to split the moon? Satan or God? Will go change is mind if it him?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:12am On Dec 24, 2014
truthman2012:
@Mulvisguy

I love the op, it is great.

I just pray their spiritual eyes be opened to see the truth.
God bless you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:11am On Dec 24, 2014
frosbel:
^^^^

Hypocrite....bashing Islam , lol. grin

Do you believe that snakes and donkeys talk ?


You better go and sort out the contradictions in your book first.
so you believe God is incapable of making a donkey and snake talke?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 11:09am On Dec 24, 2014
Ifeann:
Oh my. This is a damning observation. Yet some ignorant Muslims claim he performed miracles.

The one I find the funniest is that he split the moon in half , usually a challenge to Moses splitting the red sea.

If he split the moon in half why isn't this astronomical event not recorded by other civilisations at that time.
God bless you my sister.
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 11:07am On Dec 24, 2014
Rilwayne001:
Deu 34: 5 And Moses the servant of the LORD died there in Moab, as the LORD had said.

Deu 34:10 Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,


You mean he wrote the above toohuh grin



And when the foundation is shaky, what will happen to the building?



If you can't read, then lets leave it there. smiley
Moses wrote the book of deutoronumy,but he did not wrote the last chapter http://www.insight.org/resources/bible/deuteronomy.html
The bible say if the foundation is shaky what can the righteous do? The bible make it clear that Jesus is our new foundation, the foundation of Adam and eve is shaken, isaiah say he is our corner stone.

You did not quote the verse, so your claim is false.
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 10:48am On Dec 24, 2014
Rilwayne001:
I know what i'm saying.

Who is the author of the first 5books of the OT?



Read Leviticus for yourself.
Moses. He wrote the first five books of the Bible, referred to as the Pentateuch.the Foundation of the bible.

Quote the verse or remain silent.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212(op): 10:43am On Dec 24, 2014
malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 10:39am On Dec 24, 2014
Rilwayne001:
Yes, the god in the bible is not the true god, though in some place in the bible the true God is portrayed, but in most places we have the pagan god...example is that bible god that was eating burt animals on alter grin grin
you are soo confused, at first you say the bible God is not the true God but later you say Although the quality of the true God is portrayed,can the lying deity portray The true God?.

Provide the verse that say God did what you claim.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crisis In Muslims' Heaven? by malvisguy212: 10:21am On Dec 24, 2014
Welcome Truthman
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 10:14am On Dec 24, 2014
Rilwayne001:
The father of Jesus love sacrifice Allah (swt) does not tongue grin
yes, that is the point, God in the bible is different from the Allah in the quran.
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 9:58am On Dec 24, 2014
truthman2012:
Nowhere the quran talks about love for fellow humans. Muslims are only commanded to FEAR allah. Allah is not the Father of Jesus the God of love. Who then is allah?
check this thread ,non of them were able to give answer to the op . https://www.nairaland.com/2008614/evidences-death-jesus-quran-prove
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 9:53am On Dec 24, 2014
truthman2012:
Hi bro.
I salute you bro , happy Christmas.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Christians Explain This For Me by malvisguy212: 8:03am On Dec 24, 2014
johnydon22:
1st timothy chapter 2 from verse 11 to 15
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
i do not permit any woman to teach or assume authority over a man;she must be quiet. for Adam was formed first then Eve. and Adam was not the one deceived it was the woman. it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. but women will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
if we go by your way of thinking, then a woman cannot not pray or sing in the church,what the bible is saying is difference from what your corrupted mind is thinking.

The bible say'' I will pour out my spirit,your young men and DAUGHTER will see vision and dream dreamed''
This prophecy do not go to only men but women. what paul really mean is the gift of the spirit is for all gender,both men and women can have this gift and when the women had it she should not assume authority over the man,she should respect the man, the woman was created because God want the earth to multiply.

We know for sure that Paul viewed Adam as a type of Christ. We also know for sure that he viewed marriage as type of the relationship between Christ and the church in which the role of husband is a type of Christ and the role of the wife is a type of the Church. Thus, we can justifiably extrapolate that Paul also viewed Eve as a type of the Church.

This is what paul is saying in the other verse;
For Adam (type of Christ) was formed
first, then Eve (type of Church) and
Adam (type of Christ) was not
deceived, but the woman (type of
Church) was deceived and became a
transgressor . Yet she (the Church) will be saved through childbearing (bearing fruit in Christ)if they (man and woman)
continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.
Christianity Etc › Re: Serious Questions To Moslems!!! by malvisguy212: 7:25am On Dec 24, 2014
Mathematical:
ISLAM IS TRUELY A RELIGION OF PEACE..

WAY MOST PRACTICE IT SO NOT APPALLING
how is islam a peaceful religion?when
you preach to people and the people
refused to here you, then you force it on
them,that is what islam preach.quran
6:151 .'' don't take life EXCEPT for just
cause '' this verse does not preach peace
my friend,this verse gives man a reason
or an excuse to kill,this verse gives two
option,accept peace or die,forcing the
freewill of God on someone, Compared
with this verse,matthew 5:44'' .But I tell
you, love your enemies and pray for
those who persecute you''
In this verse there is no two option, it
just ONE and it LOVE.when you preach
christianity on someone and he refused,
jesus say dust your feat and go.
Romans 10:14.How, then, can they call
on the one they
have not believed in? And how can they
believe in the one of whom they have
not heard? And how can they hear
without someone preaching to them?
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by malvisguy212: 1:58pm On Dec 23, 2014
yazach:
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This child! you were unable to defend your self on 32 virgins for Bible god now you are displaying ignorance here
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I though you want to debunk my comment, there is nothing to argue about.

I told you and your muslim brother to produce the verse were God want 32 virgin but you and him couldn't,I give you another chance, give me the verse.
Christianity Etc › Re: Y Is God So Greedy With Is Miracles? by malvisguy212: 8:37am On Dec 23, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
bro,how do u receiv miracles frm God.....abeg frm experienc
why do you worship God? Do you love Him or your desire is miracle? Our purpose for bing here is to love God or hate him? Seek him first then all what you ask shall be giving to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only For Mature Christians And Muslims ( Misquote Verses in the Quran and Bible) by malvisguy212: 8:15am On Dec 23, 2014
personal59:
Ahhh why are u so dense I said I need mature ppl not a secondary school student haba I tell u say I need ur comment? If u don't knw what been mature mean I think u need to see ur seniors in !etween ss2-ss3 some ss1 std might do justice too not sure though fool
how is islam a peaceful religion?when you preach to people and the people refused to here you, then you force it on them,that is what islam preach.quran 6:151 .'' don't take life EXCEPT for just cause '' this verse does not preach peace my friend,this verse gives man a reason or an excuse to kill,this verse gives two option,accept peace or die,forcing the freewill of God on someone, Compared with this verse,matthew 5:44'' .But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you''
In this verse there is no two option, it just ONE and it LOVE.when you preach christianity on someone and he refused, jesus say dust your feat and go.

Romans 10:14.How, then, can they call on the one they
have not believed in? And how can they
believe in the one of whom they have
not heard? And how can they hear
without someone preaching to them?
Christianity Etc › Re: Y Is God So Greedy With Is Miracles? by malvisguy212: 12:10am On Dec 23, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
Yes,y is he so greedy?wat does it take him to answer prayers immediatly?...y does he requir us to pray till eternity b4 a coincidential prayer is being anserd?....y does he requir our worshiping im as a ransom b4 doing his duties?..if he is realy my father,y is my earthily father performin far greater dan im,y does he allow so much evil today?y cnt he just eliminate d sole father of evil?y is he exposing us to satan,caus i realy dnt understand,they r both immotal,yet he expects we mortal to b able to avoid temptation,dat realy doesnt make any sense,we ar powerless,our only backbone iz moral,he just keeps quite in heaven watchin iz followers perish.since av bin born,av neva heard a single voic frm im even owin to d fact dat i pray and fast...still my prayers dnt get anserd..of course i expect some folks to condemn me dat i dnt pray well,well no1 here can boost of hearin directly frm God except some fictional dreams or visions...am sure he sees d scam behind d sole call pastors,yet he neva reveald to der followers d real church to Go..does dat means dat evil exist and prayers r not being anserd because of d absenc or the quietness of God and not because of The presence of God?
Philippians 2:4
Let each of you look not only to his own
interests, but also to the interests of
others.

1 Corinthians 10:24
Let no one seek his own good, but the
good of his neighbor.

Timothy 3:2-4
For people will be lovers of self, lovers of
money, proud, arrogant, abusive,
disobedient to their parents, ungrateful,
unholy, heartless, unappeasable,
slanderous, without self-control, brutal,
not loving good, treacherous, reckless,
swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure
rather than lovers of God,
James 4:1-2
What causes quarrels and what causes
fights among you? Is it not this, that your
passions are at war within you? You
desire and do not have, so you murder.
You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight
and quarrel. You do not have, because
you do not ask.

Luke 6:32-34
“If you love those who love you, what
benefit is that to you? For even sinners
love those who love them. And if you do
good to those who do good to you, what
benefit is that to you? For even sinners
do the same. And if you lend to those
from whom you expect to receive, what
credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to
sinners, to get back the same amount.
Christianity Etc › Re: Great Bible Contradictions by malvisguy212: 11:40pm On Dec 22, 2014
ROSSIKE:
They claim it was written by men writing ''under the inspiration of God''. You're saying the creator of the universe (some scientists now think it's actually a multiverse) inspired men on planet earth to write a book full of orders from him to kill and rap.e people, and murder children? A book filled with threats to kill, and containing basic errors & contradictions?

Tell me something. Do you know the size of the universe?

Meanwhile, ''The "doctrine of the inerrancy of Scripture" held by the Catholic Church, as expressed by the Second Vatican Council, is that "the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation."

- Second Vatican Council, Dei Verbum (Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation), 11



Care to share some instances of this ''misinterpretation'' with us, based on your research? We await in earnest.
king james bible translator,translate it like God created evil, evil is not a created thing, you can't see evil,but the king jame say God created evil;
I form the light, and create darkness: I
make peace, and create evil: I the
LORD do all these things. ( Isaiah 45:7,
KJV)
the KJV was produced using a limited number of medieval manuscripts that did not represent the earliest Alexandrian set of manuscripts. It was produce about 400 years ago during the england medieval period.
The original word was not evil.Râ‛âh, the Hebrew word translated
"evil" in the KJV often refers to adversity
or calamity. There are two forms of the
word. Strong's H7451a most often refers
to moral evil, whereas Strong's H7451b
(the form used here) most often refers to calamity or distress. Obviously,
"calamity" is a better antonym of. "peace" than "evil."

some biblical translation say God repent,what the bible is saying about God repented is difference of what people take it as,Repentance is the act of turning away from one's sin to righteous behavior.did God sin? No, but some translation say God repent.

Example now,all this verses say God repented;
And the LORD repented of the evil
which he thought to do unto his
people. ( Exodus 32:14)
And when the angel stretched out his
hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the
LORD repented him of the evil, and
said to the angel that destroyed the
people, It is enough: stay now thine
hand. And the angel of the LORD was
by the threshingplace of Araunah the
Jebusite. ( 2 Samuel 24:16)
And God saw their works, that they
turned from their evil way; and God
repented of the evil, that he had said
that he would do unto them; and he
did it not. ( Jonah 3:10)

Does this mean that God is a sinner and
is in need of repentance? The Bible is
quite clear that God is not the author of
evil and insists that He is incapable of
doing so. Is this a contradiction? No

All the verses above, and others, come
from the Hebrew Old Testament. The
word translated "repented" is the
Hebrew verb nâcham (Strong's H5162). It has a number of meanings, including "to be sorry," "console oneself," "repent," "regret," and "be comforted."3 The actual meaning intended is determined from the context. For example, the King James version translates Genesis 6:6 as "And it
repented the LORD that he had made
man on the earth, and it grieved him at
his heart." The New American Standard
translates the verse as "The LORD was
sorry that He had made man on the
earth, and He was grieved in His heart."

So my friend rossike, it is not a contradiction,but dew to english translation.

The opinion of men are were the author add there opinion to complete a statement to fit in.
Christianity Etc › Re: Great Bible Contradictions by malvisguy212: 8:31pm On Dec 22, 2014
adexsimply:
don't you get? The fact that there's any form of inaccuracy in the book puts a big question mark on the whole content
christians don't say the bible was written by God himself as the muslims claim the quran was written. There are a lot of english misinterpretation most people don't know.
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 8:01pm On Dec 22, 2014
Rilwayne001:
See ehn Moses.

I don't have your time.

Good manners and caracter that is it.
ok. Make I no stress you.
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 7:21pm On Dec 22, 2014
Rilwayne001:
grin grin grin You know next to nothing.
is that all what you can say?don't you know a sinner can have good manners?

Matthew 5:46
If you love those who love you, what
reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 6:40pm On Dec 22, 2014
Rilwayne001:
If you cant read then lets leave it there, for i have no time to waste with you.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet never used bad language neither a 'Fahish nor a Mutafahish. [size=15pt] He used to say 'The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character . [/size] ' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759) "

Thats all i can do ^^

Read that thread yourself.
bible say even the tax collector and sinner can do more than this, do you not know the fruit of the spirit? How can you know the fruit of the spirit is in you? You are talking about MANNER'S, dint you know even the sinners has good manner? Well you are a muslim, you don't understand the nature of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 5:17pm On Dec 22, 2014
Rilwayne001:
https://www.nairaland.com/1943131/good-manners-islam wink
you don't need to refers me to another thread or is it difficult to provide the quality muhammed possessed.
Christianity Etc › Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by malvisguy212: 3:55pm On Dec 22, 2014
Rilwayne001:
List 10 qualities of Jesus you think you have, or at least you are adhering to.



"There are" okay so you believe you are not among?

Can you please mention 5 of them.
Galatians 5:22-23New International
Version (NIV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-
control. Against such things there is no
law.

And you, list 5 quality muhammed have that you think you have.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 3:31pm On Dec 22, 2014
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 3:25pm On Dec 22, 2014
Frosbel is like the lurkwarm christian,very disgusting in the side of God, that why God say ''I will spew the out of my mouth'' believe in one verse and then disagree the other verse,neither cold nor hot, this are the christian that cast serious doubt on the elect sake to question there faith.

There is only one reference in the Bible
to a ‘lukewarm’ Christian and that is
Revelation 3:15-16 which say;"I know
your deeds, that you are neither cold not hot. I wish you were either one of the other! So, because you are. lukewarm - neither hot nor cold - I am. about to spit you out of my mouth"
But the end verse teaches that God still love them and the door is open for them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 3:17pm On Dec 22, 2014
Jack65:
Is that all you saw? How about his conversion story and the discrepancies ?
I quote his mistake for you as an example, when you misinterpreted a single verse, then your knowledge of the scripture need to be question.this is not the first time we are seeing this,a guy has already bring this topic here.
https://www.nairaland.com/1935442/femi-aribasala-trinity-doctrine. Go through the thread and view my respond.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Born On December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' Birthday? by malvisguy212: 3:13pm On Dec 22, 2014
Unbias:
Individuals can celebrate their birthdays on a day or month which is not the actual day or month if circumstance demands so. We have heard of occult shrines becoming church sites after revivals. Does it now imply that whoever worships Jesus in shrines converted to churches are still worshipping Idols? NO. This is the situation surrounding both Christmas and Easter celebrations in christiandom.

Celebrating christmas on the 25th of Dec. or any other day and month or not celebrating it at all will neither endorse nor disqualify anyone as a candidate of paradise.

In a nutshell Malvisguy212, I share your view.
God bless you bro, long time? Hope all is well?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 7:35am On Dec 22, 2014
Jack65:
It might interest you to know that Paul is the biggest fraud in the New Testament and to Christianity. Please read this: http://paulproblem.faithweb.com/conversion_paul.htm Also Femi Aribisala has a lot to say about Paul in his blog. You may check that out too.
it may interest you that the guy do not know the scripture very well,the guy say paul contradict jesus on faith and work, he quote ephesians2:8, but unfortunately ephesians2:8 was talking about salvation is free not work and faith as he claim.
Read here.
https://www.nairaland.com/1981918/did-paul-invent-christianity

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