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Syncan:
The question you've avoided to answer is: those audience James was talking to who say they have faith, but which is called "dead faith" according to James, do they earn salvation too?

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:19

listen very carefully, James was addressing the Jews (save) they believe good works is the means of salvation, the truth is that good work is the result of salvation, and this good work has already been done by Christ. Titus 3:8 indicate that a man does good work because he is save.

good work are not something a person must do to be save, here what Paul say In Romans:
"But to him that WORKETH NOT, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5).

notice here, the man does NOT work at all, he is only resting on the work of another ( Jesus). so what is the result of this man faith ? his faith was counted for righteousness.

if you Insisted on this argument, ask your priest this question, What is the result of salvation ? if his answer point to human effort , then he is standing on a sandy soil. but if his answer point to the work of Christ, then he is standing on a SOLID ground.

dalaman:
Because it simply doesn't.

you are very good In repeating questions.....we know you say No...now, back up your claim.

orunto27:
I am not a Muslim. I am Born Again.
At 6am one morning, I knelled down by my Bed praying. Suddenly I heard some loud noise outside my Gate. I wanted to continue my prayers but my Spirit instructed me to get up, get out and see what was happening outside my Gate. I came out to discover that an innocent man was about to be gang murdered. I stopped them, carried the man right inside my house and two hours later drove the man to the Hospital for treatment.
How do you interprete that?

was it a dream or parable ?

Syncan:
Bros, do you understand that I just quoted scripture? What you should rather ask yourself is: "according to James, Can a dead faith earn you salvation?"

alright, what is James understanding of work in this context ? James audience is the save, James is telling the save that their faith is dead without work, work in this context is the evidence of a saving faith, this is the kind of work that will NOT earn you salvation, this work only prove you are a true Christian.

malvisguy212:
long time bro, good to know you are alright .
we are not waiting for response from our Muslims
friends, but insult.....everyday, we see Muslims proven this to be true, Insult Allah and you go Scott free, but insult Muhammad and you pay with your life.

happy sunday

Syncan:
This is not true, please stop saying it. The catholic church believes that faith has to go with good work, for faith without work is dead. James. 2:26

if I may ask, what is work in this context ? I mean, can good work in this context earn you salvation ?

pressplay411:
I wonder why you share the same origin and story with them then. Don't be ignorant. Same God of the Jews is the same God of Jesus and Mohammed.

Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God. Allah is Muhammad family gods, the angel Gabriel that visit Muhammad In the cave of hira is not the Gabriel that visit Mary and Joseph. angel Gabriel is a good news angel but the Quran make him look violence.

NwaAmaikpe:


Rational explanation,

So why has modern day Christianity (mostly the Pentecostal and Protestant movement) forgotten or rather discarded this origin

we are in the despensation of grace/last day, the new testament fullfilled the old testament prophecy and when a prophecy is being fullfilled, we move on from the fulfillment at that point in time.

Christian and Muslims do not worship the same God.

crunchyg:
Please one question for you, are you a christian, if yes. Have you ever committed sin before maybe by looking, talking etc?

yes, I have commit so , and if I had die In my sin, it hell.

crazysaint:
I always counter this, whenever a preacher or someone stood up to say God love everyone equally even the scripture makes it clear that God love some people more than others. In Malachi 1:2-3 The Lord speaking: “Yet I have loved Jacob; but I have hated Esau” Now what was the offense of Esau, That God said right from the belly i love Jacob but hated Esau, when Esau was full of innocence.
The same God give us the commandment to love even our enemy choose to hate innocent baby right from the womb.

That's to say there are People God love even in today's world than others.

i need a clearer understanding on this. Your contribution is highly appreciated.

Lasticlala, ishilove, mynd44.

the verse was talking about nation, verse 13 say " the older shall serve the younger" in no place in the Bible Esau serve Jacob. malachi was using Esau as a name to represent the edomite, God say " two nation are in the womb of rabbaka" God chose Jacob which He later renamed as israel and reject Esau the edomite.

so God loving jacob and hating Esau has nothing to do with human emotions, is about Him chosen one nation to reach out to the gentile world. the edomite were also bless with riches, is just that God did not chose them.

crunchyg:
Let's assume a believer who has accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Personal saviour and has been faithful to God with the way he lives his life but mistakenly or otherwise commits Sin and wasn't able to ask God for forgiveness of that Sin before meeting his or her sudden death. My question is will such a christian still make heaven or will he go to hell?
Please I need clarification from matured believers. Thanks

a true Christian don't commit sin mistakenly, if he does he is ignorant of God word which say in James 2:10 (NIV) reads: For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

kennyblack94:
Someone asked me the real problem with Nigeria and African countries,the best response I was able to come up with "I know of that disease, It is very chronic and deadly. It is "Self hate". African People/ Black People have mastered the act and art of self hatred while thinking that heaven of white jesus awaits them.
It's ok for the Israelites to gaze upon and venerate the serpent set up by moses on a pole,
It's ok for you to access medical care from a hospital whose symbol is a serpent ....
But when your ancestors tell you that the python is sacred, you salute them with insults,
How else can I describe you ?

so what did this white jesus teach ? did He teach hate or Love ? did He encouraged us to follow Him blindly ?

geoworldedu:
Myself 14:1 I have categorically said THERE IS A GOD, but not the foolish gods such as Yahweh and Allah worshipped by this fool.

so which God/gods did you believe in ?

sukkot:
today is 777. i wonder if something cataclysmic catastrophic will happen today. or maybe this birth is the event that will mark this cosmic landmark date. the rebirth aafter 70 years and 7 years

on a side note trump got into office on the 70th year and 7 month and 7th day of his life on this earth. THE UNIVERSE IS SPEAKING. CAN YALL HEAR ?

long time bro, can you break this down ?

GenNext:
That's it the Bible is always there as a reference to keep you at bay!!! Jesus is not real, he was just like the present day celebrities that are popular. You can use Nnamdi Kanu to sight an example the way his followers are immortalizing him as if he is God but it's his time so when he dies his people may follow his philosophy and start worshiping him as their god but he is not God just a human like you and i.... Even Jesus was given birth to by a woman, he also bleed like you and me, eat food, fought at the temple. This sighted references are to open your blocked brain and show you that he is not coming to anywhere, he has died and that's the final..... just believe in Almighty God to guide and protect you and not a false god that was enforce on you to worship at the end of a whip....

and also, why will the bible perfectly prophesied that in the later days, people like you will arise and mock the second coming of Christ? in fact you are helping in making this verse a reality, you are fullfiling this prophecy. keep it up boy.

GenNext:
That's it the Bible is always there as a reference to keep you at bay!!! Jesus is not real, he was just like the present day celebrities that are popular. You can use Nnamdi Kanu to sight an example the way his followers are immortalizing him as if he is God but it's his time so when he dies his people may follow his philosophy and start worshiping him as their god but he is not God just a human like you and i.... Even Jesus was given birth to by a woman, he also bleed like you and me, eat food, fought at the temple. This sighted references are to open your blocked brain and show you that he is not coming to anywhere, he has died and that's the final..... just believe in Almighty God to guide and protect you and not a false god that was enforce on you to worship at the end of a whip....

what are you even saying here ? you are so confused, first, you said Jesus is not real , and you said He is just a human like me and you, another confused fellow. secondly, Jesus exist and He has reveal God to us.

GenNext:
It is disheartening, alarming and bring pains to my heart so i have to protest and speak out on the way Afrikans are reacting to the second coming of Jesus Christ. His story was fabricated and designed to make people more obedient in order to control the masses without any physical efforts, it is an illusion that never existed. To avoid falling a victim, it is pertinent to bear in mind that there is only one way of life or better still a religion in Afrika which is Traditional.

Traditional Afrikan religion encompasses a wide variety of traditional beliefs practiced by our forefathers to pay eulogy to our ancestors, the traditional religion was unique back then before the arrival of any borrowed religion. This is why many Christian or Muslim still maintain some aspect of their traditional religion due to the fact that they know the truth but are drifting away from it.

According to the Bible in the book of 1 Thessalonian 5:2 says "for you know I will come like a thief in the night" This is a way to keep you and I in check and into modern day slavery like bonded labour where you are expected to keep praying, waiting for the second coming of Jesus Christ due to indoctrination and consternation of not going to heaven.

This belief have kept many Afrikans unenlightened from years to years, till yesterday, today until tomorrow and the day after. Also the phrase have really helped the propounders to downpress, make Afrikans their slave without stressing. It takes only the wise black man to be enlightened by breaking away the chain of mental slavery.

Jesus Christ is not coming soon , don't complicate issues or make things get really harder for yourself because there is no medication for stupidity only intervention from God can cure it. Thank me later for this eye opening message and for setting you free from indoctrination, breaking away the shackle of downpression and mental slavery.

2 Peter 3:3-4 King James Version (KJV)
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

ZarZar:
Man, that's why I'm not buying into all this religious mumbo jumbo. I'm human 1st & there's everything wrong with killing another human over an issue that's beyond their control. Sick, sick, sick!

don't allow that boy to descive you, that was the old testament law, according to the law, a sinner cannot touch the ark of covenant. the new testament fulfilled the old testament prophecy and when a prophecy is being fullfilled, we move on from the fulfillment.

OtemAtum:
Allah and Yahweh share violence in common. Remember how Yahweh killed Uzza for touching the ark in a reflex action. If Yahweh who they claimed owns nature, and Uzza answered the call of nature(unintentionally o) and the same Yahweh killed him through holy slap for answering his call of nature, then tell me how fair the Yahweh is.

BTW, Allah and Yahweh are both bound in a spiritual cage until Africans and the whole world have widened up to know that the two evil gods are not the God Almighty who created the universe and the multiverse.

you know nothing about the old testament law, so keep shut.

CuteEmma:
I never said freewill doesn't exist,, it does.... Buh it's so so limited

Jesus say " my sheep here my voice and followed me" but there are some who CHOOSE not to follow, there choice wasn't remove, they still have to chose to follow or stay.

scripture point out that most of us are stiff kneck and stubborn and we have gone astray, doesn't this imply that we have freewill to be righteous ? my lady, Partial freewill does not exist. thank you.

CuteEmma:
There's free will... Buh it's less significant since both the beginning and ending have been fixed... So it's limited

Talking about hell, I really dunno if it actually exist, buh I'm stiff-necked sure that its no fiery furnace.... 'Cause it just doesn't make any sense that God created people just to burn 'em later,, as He knew right from the start, all those who wouldn't be able to hold strong...

For instance, If yhu know that 60 out of the 100 toys yhu want to create would malfunction, and still go ahead to create them, only with the intention of destroying 'em when they finally malfunction, kinda seems like a very insane plan..... I believe our conscience would be the judge and our hell too...

If yhu read the book of Jeremiah, you'd agree with me that we don't choose our destinies.. Perhaps Kidnapper Evans was fixed to distract Nigerians from the actual problem...

are you fix to click on this topic ? were do the thought of clicking on this topic come from ? if God fix you to worship Him, how do you get pleasures from this kind of worship ?

chubinwa:
atheism is nt a religion. bt a disbelieve in d existence of any deity or religion

are you really sure that God does not exist ? if you don't have evidence that God does not exist, then that is one giant leap of faith.

MrMontella:
Christianity is as fake as Islam

and atheism is the right religion.

adepeter26:

I love that hell bro

alright.

adepeter26:
Nightmare you say?

LoL

Oh Lucifer, dash this bro sense small cos God doesn't give his people sense to read in-between lines

I admire your faith, you are very strong, are you sure hell does not exist ? why do you want to jeopadis your eternity ? how do you make yourself believe hell does not exist ? if you want to be an atheist, be a sincere one, don't be like the ones we see on nairaland.

adepeter26:
I stopped reading when I came across HEAVEN AND HELL.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5542307_trash_jpegbfbf0225f9763a2c2ff1cbbe6d0d182c

By the way, this belongs to romance

why is heaven and hell give you atheists nightmare ? you atheist call yourself freethinkers, free from all religion, but still, when you here the word HELL, its shaken your soul. free Indeed.

sonofluc1fer:
You have a personal relationship with God, the one who created the universe, all he could tell you was he was about to get a new believer?




Get dafuq outta here...

yeah, that's show how important a believer is to Him, in fact the heavenly host rejoic over the repentance of ONE sinner.

jonbellion:
but your religion is still bull. I'm still an unbeliever and to some people I am still an atheist

I never say an atheist become a believer, I say an atheist renounced atheism.

jonbellion:
but your religion is still bull. I'm still an unbeliever and to some people I am still an atheist

it get easier.

jonbellion:
what makes you so sure of this?

I have had a personal relationship with God, I have encounter God, on many occasions, I have dreams and this dreams have come to past.

I dream, an atheist will renounced atheism, I told pleatt-on, maby it him, but I never told him it was a dream. here, today, you, an atheist renounced atheism.

Empiree:
Albaqir wasting his time on this folks. You think they reason?. They dont need reasonable explanation. All they need is to make example from them.


What is judgement day in Christianity?.

Does hell exist in Christianity and who goes there?

did you read my post ? how can Allah record the sins of the pious Muslims if he claim to forgive them in the first place ? in Christianity the sins of the righteous are nor counted anymore.

Roman 4
… 7 “Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, whose sins are covered; 8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.”

Surah 21:47: And We set the scales even in Day of Judgment admitting of no deviation and We judge with absolute justice and accordingly no soul shall ever be wronged in the least. Every deed, good or bad, will We present with precision even if it be as light or as little as a mustard seed. Enough are We in putting the law in execution.

The Qur’an clearly teaches that Allah will weigh “every deed, good or bad”
on the “Day of Judgment.” The fact that Allah could weigh “every deed, good or bad” committed by Muslims during their lifetime proves that Allah has not forgotten or forgiven their sins. Since the purpose for keeping a detailed record of the sins of an individual is to render judgment, it shows that the sins of the Muslims are neither forgiven nor forgotten by Allah. Even the sins of pious Muslims are not exempted.
The “Scales of Allah”