₦airaland Forum

Phils:
Is the Ministry his personal project or it belongs to the Catholic Church?

If he is a nuisance, is there no room to excommunicate him from the Catholic Church and stop bothering from whatever statements from his personal perspective.

He should stop using Catholic Church, Adoration ministry was led on the foundation of Catholic Church, Catholic Rev Fathers are not meant to force members to give. The only reason Mbaka threatened and made fool of himself is that Obi didn't give him money; imagine saying that Obi must come to Adoration ministry and kneel before his sins would be forgiven.

Mbaka should stop using Catholic Church as his business venture.

DOTian:
They miss the entertainment value. It's like you missing out on watching a live football match of your favorite team. Nothing here about deep Christianity.
The bishop has been very linient with mbaka and mbaka seem to have overgrown the diocese. He's now starting to embarrass not just the diocese but also the entire church. They needed too reign him in. He should not operate for the rest of the year. I know of several derobed priest who committed less crimes

I was uncomfortable immediately Mbaka said that Obi must come to Adoration ministry and kneel down at the alter for his sins to be forgiven.

Mbaka went too far, Church is not a business center but a place of worship, Mbaka should be ashamed of begging for money publicly, it's unheard.

Mbaka deviated and should be cautioned.

LaSenior:
Buhari really do Tinubu strong thing by signing electoral bill into law

Why didn't buhari sign it in 2018/2019 when saraki presented it to him

Buhari don play tinubu fast one ooooo

What are the merits and demerits of the electoral law? How will it affect 2023 election?

This thread is not necessary to be honest with OP and to everyone whose comment is here.

Everyone should get his/her PVC and be committed on the election day. We want a better Nigeria and our PVCs is the key to that.

Felimax:
Nigerians against Okowa are mad.

So Okowa is now PDP that threw open their party ticket?

So, where were these set of people when Atiku got the Presidential ticket? Was there any protest from these people?

You all celebrated PDP Atiku when he won and yet you suddenly don't want a vice for him. Very useless set of people.

If truly the Igbos are not hypocrites why are most of you guys not supporting Okowa? Ok, maybe he is not an Igbo after all.

Okowa, is not the reason Peter Obi left the PDP or the reason Wike was not picked, so what is all the fumes about him been a betrayal?

You guys should have some sense else an epileptic old man who has no vision for this beautiful country other than his dream to be president will end up been your president and we all will pay dearly for it.

We should not allow the schemes of the SATANIC party in power affect our sense of decorum.

Okowa is a goal!

If truly the Igbos are not hypocrites why are most of you guys not supporting Okowa? Ok, maybe he is not an Igbo after all.

I would have overlooked your comment but the above copied part drew my attention. Edwin Clark, Afenefere, Pandev etc are not Igbos but you have summed them into being Igbos so that you will show your hate for Igbos.

Ohaneze (Igbos) spoke against the emergence of Atiku as the PDP flagbearer (it's even here on Nairaland) but you choose to show hate against Igbos, please stop. Igbos are not against Okowa.

Politics should be without hate, rancor & intimidation. If the VP was giving to Wike you will still lament though the whole delegates from Abia state voted for Wike at MKO stadium ( i was there and left because of the ufea champions league).

This is social media, stop saying what you didn't confirm, project and camping for your chosen candidate and do away with hate, thank you and have a great weekend.

kokkubabboni421:
Exactly my take; but let’s be optimistic there might be a revolution

Yes, those calling Obi names and criticizing him are the naive lots. I believe in politics without hate and bitterness.

Finally, there would be more active participation in next year's election more than what we saw in 2019.

kokkubabboni421:
He has my votes already but I just hope the hype ain’t pyrrhic

I'm not a hater but the reality on ground as far as Nigeria is concern; Obi may not win.

North will decide who wins base on their teeming population, religion and tribe; this is Nigeria, these things shapes the voting pattern.

kokkubabboni421:
I just hope most PO supporters have voters card, not just that but ready to exercise their franchise on the real day without fear or prejudice

To be fair with you, Peter Obi may certainly not win but his decision to contest have encourage more people to register for PVC, Abuja alone is something else.

an0daGuy:
So you believe that entity has a barbecue business? That moniker is a bot account created solely to promote apc on nairaland. It’s usually operated by more than one person.

The apc’s contract with that moniker will terminate on handover day next year or can be renewed upon tilumbu winning the election

cc: MajohBanks
Maobichek

Good day, most times i always see :"we at..." Of a truth, it's not just one person.

[quote author= post=113826456][/quote]Awkuzu and Ezu river massacre:

You have always prayed and demanded that all IPOB be killed without trial. In the past, i saw a picture here on Nairaland where IPOB members were forced to lie down in muddy water and you mocked them and praise the army.

What really changed? Are they not IPOB members again? When did they become "innocent" citizens? Many families didn't take up the case against the securities because they were all tagged IPOB members (outlawed group).

You have always raised this issue and i have confronted you but you never proved that they innocent citizens because you were among those who called them IPOB members.

Realtord43:
Tinubu is not from lagos but fron osun state.
That why is milking and stealing lagos resource and money with reckless abandon.

ATIKU Is not from nigeria but a fulani from cameroon. If given the opportunity ar president, he will steal nigeria money and milk her resource to stupor.

only option here is PETER OBI for a better Nigeria and properous future.

Good morning, this is not how politics should be, do away with hate and bitterness. Nigerian constitution sees Atiku as a Nigerian and BAT as a Nigerian too. Let politics and camping be without rancor, intimidation and hate, thank you.

Odingo1:
Yorubas are greedy and traitors in the south. Is now they remember power should to go to south. They have the opportunity to restructure the country but believe they can retain power after betraying the south to impose Buhari.

Let those shouting South president not decline after tomorrow if it didn't favour a southerner in APC. There are other parties where we have southerners contesting for the office of the president.

zionstaar75:
I hope u won't have retreated into a hole tomorrow, Lawan ko,nawal ni.he won't even be in top 3.jokers!u want to know why Buhari chickened out?the governors have been planning his humiliation for about 2 weeks now.my immediate senior brother is in Abuja with the governor of my North Central state.the governor has been telling him how they plan to embarrass him at the convention. Its Time to show him his cabal are politically worthless especially maman daura.believe me he's remaining tenor will be miserable

Hmmm!!! Your brother is in Abuja but you are not. I'm in Abuja and I'm not a supporter of any political party because i have been with few of our politicians.

Let me tell you this simple truth: PMB words are laws to his followers both in APC and the entire North.

Please don't be deceived, if you know how Adamu emerged as the APC national chairman, you will not believe all that your brother said.

Let us all wait till tomorrow but one thing i must tell you is that North decides who would be APC flagbearer and BAT speech at Ogun state last Thursday is an issue that may affect him tomorrow, thank you.

DrStrange2000:
Times without number if these south aspirants don’t stop this Fulani hijacked country , our sons and daughters will have reasons to blame us in future ..

Good evening, those that championed restructuring are now in power and didn't do anything with there position. Osibanjo went to court because of restructuring, APC campinged with restructuring in 2014 but to the Northerners in APC; it was a tool to get power and to Southerners, it was meant to impact equity and fairness in government and other spheres of life.

Both in PDP and APC, North have more delegates more than the South. Assuming every Southerner stepdown for Osibanjo or BAT and North decide to vote wholly fow Lawan, North will still win. This is one of the things restructuring should have address. APC even came up with restructuring committee and Kaduna State governor was the Chairman: Imagine!

Don't blame anyone, North and South are not equal when it come to Nigerian politcs. BAT toured all the Northern state begging and was able to get the promise of some but look at what is happening now.

I'm in Abuja, i was at MKO stadium during PDP presidential primary and i was at Eagles Square today around 4:15pm, if North didn't willfully relinquish APC presidential primary to BAT or any other Southerner, North will still win, thank you.

Theyoungmaster:
A PC just willingly lost the elections.

Lost election to who? I'm not in support of PMB but all the governors choose their successors, PMB will definitely have the upper hand in who becomes APC flagbearer.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Felabrity:
At this point, we must not allow any northerner in that seat come 2023

Good evening, please stop being emotional, this has been staring us in the face for a long time and not just today. AK 47 is more costly than a cow but the government and we all know that Fulani headsmen and Bandits comfortably uses it at will and government did nothing to stop this dangerous menace. I personally blame the government for what happened at Ondo. RIP to the dead.

jesusjnr2020:
Amen! Thank God.

I pray God gives you the grace to do as you've desired just as He gave me. In Jesus name.

I appreciate your position but we all know that the most subtle sin is :"lies," since the inception of moble phone, Christians are now competiting with unbelievers in this area.

Do you know that so many Christians who vow not to lie do it unknowingly via moble phone. I visited a friend who is a "committed" Christian, i was within his window and called him on phone, it ranged and i heard it because i know his ringing tone but he stopped the call and later called me that he was not at home when i called him; i confronted him but he said that it was a mistake, probably "a slip of the tongue."

Unforgiven spirit is dangerous but lie is the worst because most people lie unknowingly, thank you.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Clearly in all these schemings the south east is losing out. How I wished the south east leaders have formed a strong power block and make a bold statement like the south west leaders are doing. Igbo Presidency Igbo Presidency but they are not even supporting themselves. I really wished an Igbo man would be President next year but that isn’t happening. Even Peter Obi that is gathering momentum they are not supporting. Igbo political leaders are the south east problem.

Good morning, you are derailing this thread, this is about APC delegates and from the position of things in APC, it's between ACN block and nPDP block, it has nothing to do with Igbos.

Statutory delegates in APC has nothing to do with Igbos. Do your best and promote your preferred candidate, thank you and have a wonderful day.

Sunmolar:
I think he had addressed the issues of how he was misquoted in Ogun state


I HAVE HIGH REGARD AND RESPECT FOR PRESIDENT BUHARI

We have entered the meat of primary season. Sensationalism and wilful inaccuracy tend to push aside truth during such moments. I make this statement so that truth and accuracy may have a chance. It is important that people truly know what I said and where I stand. Whatever view you have of me is within your right to make. But let it be based on truth and not on falsehood or reckless exaggeration.

There have been gross misinterpretations in some sections of the media regarding comments I made on Thursday in Abeokuta, the Ogun State capital. To a degree, the erroneous interpretations may be somewhat innocent given that I spoke in Yoruba. Those who do not understand the nuances of this richly layered and subtly language may have inadvertently yet erroneously missed the true meaning of what I said while attempting to translate my statement. Instead of weighing what I said carefully, they translated so quickly and thus inaccurately in an attempt to meet media deadlines. Of course, there are also those who knew better but they conveyed these inaccuracies because the sensationalism suits their political purposes.

Again, such propaganda and misinformation becomes daily fare in the heat of the political season. Let's just state what needs to be stated. My opponents want to present a narrative that I made comments disrespectful of President Muhammadu Buhari in hopes that such a narrative would convince President Buhari to oppose my aspirations regarding the approaching primary. President Buhari is an experienced and accomplished leader. I do not believe he will be taken by the tricks of such people.

Let me also erase any doubt. My respect and regard for President Buhari as Commander-in-Chief of this nation and as a person are high and unfailing. I shall never denigrate him. I certainly did not do so in Abeokuta. We have been political partners for a long time and I hope that partnership continues well into the future. I would do nothing to jeopardize it. I believe our party is the best hope for the nation to right itself. I believe I have a future role larger than the one I now have. I also believe President Buhari has a continuing and important role to play even after his tenure as president is over.

Indeed, I consistently supported the president and his administration. Even when the administration has come under intense criticism, my feet have always been planted solidly in defence of the president. The president personally nominated me to coordinate his re-election campaign in 2019. He did this not because I opposed him or because I was indifferent. He did so, because I was firmly with him in 2015 and has stood firmly beside him ever since. When I publicly announced my aspiration to seek the party nomination for the upcoming presidential election, I stressed that my strategic objective was to build on the foundation laid by the Buhari administration. In fact, I believe I was the first aspirant to inform President Buhari of his presidential intention. It was a sign of the respect I have for him and his office. It is unthinkable that I would asperse the leader of the party for which I hope to be the next flag bearer. It makes no sense at all to do such an indelicate, unseemly thing.

In Abeokuta, I spoke to the unwarranted attacks against my person that have been part of the campaign of others. I also recounted the history of the party for those whose memories need repair. There are many who had no role in the birth of the APC and in its many victories. Now that the party has climbed the political summit, they want to claim credit for something they had no part in. However, this cannot be said of President Buhari. I am proud of my role in the advent of the APC and its electoral successes. But President Buhari, of course, stands as the main driver of this success. He was elected president twice. He has borne the weight of national governance for seven years. Nothing can rival that. I would not dare belittle what he has done and what he has meant to the party and nation.

President Buhari is a Nigerian patriot, a man of integrity. These qualities won him tremendous mass support leading to electoral victory in 2015 and 2019. I am proud to have been his partner in the political merger that became the APC and in making history by ousting an incumbent president for the first time in Nigeria.
I make no apologies for seeking the party's nomination. I believe I have something important to offer Nigeria that the other aspirants do not have, although I see them as good and committed Nigerians in their own right. While I want this office, there are certain things I will not do and certain lines I shall not cross. I shall never belittle myself by denigrating the president or his office. I dare not seek an office and disrespect it at the same time.

My aspiration to be President of Nigeria is based on my want to serve the nation and not that I feel some personal entitlement to high office. Governance of this nation is a sacred and solemn duty. It is neither to be given as a favour to someone who is unqualified nor should people be motivated by personal reasons to prevent the most qualified person from attaining the office. The wellbeing of over 200 million souls is at stake. Let us all realise this and act accordingly, I only desire a level-playing ground for all aspirants and an adherence to stipulated rules and due process. If in the fairness of such a process, I do not emerge as the party's candidate, I shall have no complaints regarding an honest primary and will accept the fair outcome as a true democrat.

Asiwaju Bola Tinubu
June 3, 2022.

This should be spread abroad in the North, Lawal a stunch supporter of BAT should be made to see this and talk to his ppl, his response is what most Northerners are looking at.

Richardonald:
if it's like that why is he still contesting when the north he is banking on has cast, because am sure he is only going to win one geo political zone in the south if he becomes the flagbearer

Your saw the response? North is always comfortable speaking their language and the want everyone to speak their language but it becomes insult when you speak your own language.

North is still ahead of South because they appropriated their population and landmass to their own advantage. This is the reason why every Southerner desiring the office of the president would surely beg the North and accept their terms and conditions.

Sunmolar:
The content & contest is on Apc primary election. Later we will see how things unfold. Only God know the end from the beginning.

Good morning, I'm currently in the North East; BAT speech at Ogun state is not good at all for his presidential ambition.

North has a way of doing things more especially duringelections, they have nothing to do with manifesto but whom they were told to vote for.

Let just wait and see what happens.

Lazyreporta:
Good morning, very correct.
And now the north can feel it, should a strong southern person emerges as president, restructure may likely happen and that's the end of their dominance. They don't want that to happen. So they will support a weaker southern person if necessary, or else they keep it up north.

We just need the entire 17 southern governors to stand firm and demand for equal rights. No going back with it, I believe it's achievable if none will go behind them as usual as we see in the case of VAT, And security outfit.

As for Osinbajo, I don't believe in his presidency anymore as long as it's under apc /PDP nothing can be done

No! No!! No!!! Please don't castigate Osinanjo ok. What North sees and calls fairness and equity is the Red chamber (Senate) but bear in mind that the Green Chamber (HoR) is there and any bill of such magnitude will will surely get the accent of both before it be accepted.

While the Senate has 3 members representing each state, the HoR is where the problem is and because the HoR which is based on population and landmass gives the North advantage over the South; Osibanjo is just handicapped ok.

Lazyreporta:
You didn't get me, I was also questioning why they aren't the same. It should be the same. That's what I said. And I said our leaders are to be blamed for allowing such injustice to happen.. They, in harmony, should demand equal rights, states, local government etc.. Thanks

Good morning, thanks for your matured response. Please i want to ask you a question, do you remember the issue of restructuring? Osibanjo championed it and even went to court because of it. APC virtually used restructuring as one of their focal points during camping before 2015.

Restructuring is all about equity and fairness, restructuring was meant to adjust the current status quo so that North and South should be equal but while Southern APC members where busy shouting restructuring, Northerners saw it as a tool for APC to get the support of the South and take over.

APC is in power today but Osibanjo said that what Nigeria need is not restructuring but good governance. APC came up with restructuring but kaduna governor is the chairman, can you imagine that?

What made Osibanjo and other top Southern APC men in government to chicken out is the reason why North is presiding over us in governance and every other spheres of life as far as Nigeria is concern, thank you.

MadamVanessa:




It's game over for Tinubu.


Someone Northerners respect so much and worshipped ,you came and say you single handedly made him a president. What an insult, infact to northeners, that's blasphemy.

Haba!!! Please don't go this far, Northern Muslim don't joke with the word "blasphemy." If this comment you made is copied to some Whatapp groups, it may cause problem to people who know nothing about BAT's speech at Ogun state yesterday.

Lazyreporta:
Although tinubu no suppose talk like that Sha, but he said the truth.. Obviously, North doesn't like the truth.

And it's clear that they don't want the South to ever feel like they are part of Nigeria. The north can't win elections without South, neither will south without them.

You don't tell me you won't support me if I said the truth, I won't support you either. It's Nigeria, not North. The southern leaders are the problem, unt they start putting north in their place, this will remain.

It's always more like who the north want on both parties, never heard of who the South want. Does it mean the South don't have the final say? The south believes the north will win always, and the north believes that too. It's north and south my people. It should be equal right, not one dominating the other.. Until south come together, this will remain.

Me wey dey type self never chop

Stop mentioning me if you can't read well or at least say something meaningful.. Over 20 mentions with nothing but rubbish talk

Good evening, i believe you are not in the North nor Abuja. I was at MKO stadium last Saturday during PDP presidential primary and i saw what I'm about to tell you.

North has more delegates than the entire South both in PDP and APC and it's via simple majority not by 25% stuff ok. If North vote North, South will lose both in PDP and APC.

I felt uncomfortable last night the 3rd time BAT mentioned "God and me" in reference to PMB victory during 2015 presidential election. The results, states and regions are still online, google and see what Kano, kaduna, Borno gave to APC in terms of vote. All these shouldn't have come up if not the Ogun state self glorification of BAT.

I stay in FCT but currently in the North East, they are busy talking about what happened in Ogum state and they have a way of doing things more especially during electioneering.

If BAT fail to emerge as the president under APC, the Ogun state speech played a significant role and he won't blame anyone.

Finally, North and South are not equal looking at the number of delegates and polling units across Nigeria, thank you.

Beremx:
So because you think you made Buhari President, he should reciprocate? You never see anything. I pray you survive the shock which awaits you

God help us! My attention was caught the 3rd time he said: "God and me," let him not equit himself with God. God is God and not a man.

He supported PMB and others also did but the impression is that it was him alone; he just confirmed what some people do say here that BAT made PMB the president which in all ramifications is a lie because BAT has one vote and the vote PMB got from Kano and Kaduna alone is higher than what he got from 6 South West states.

heydays:




Such brutal truth. I hope he is ready for the torrents of clapback and emotional reactions.

People are getting their PVCs, not just Obi's supporters but Nigerians, i personally registered 6 people this week with my device.

Obi certainly may not win because Atiku and other heavyweights with more supporters are also contesting but Obi is in the race now: let's allow him contest first.

PMB didn't contest for the first time in 2015 nor Atiku contesting for the first time in 2023. Before the PDP primary, some people here said that Obi won't buy the form and he did; the story changed that he bought the form because he want to be Atiku's vice; he left PDP and joined LP and issues are still being raised here and there.

My opinion is that anyone who is eligible and decide to contest should contest. Only one person will be declared the winner. Politics of hate and bitterness should be discouraged, thank you.

babaolofin:
Osinbajo should just withdraw from the race. He made the first mistake by allowing himself to be dragged into the race.

It is not too late.

Left to me, no delegate from Ogun State should vote for him especially, Ijebu delegates. Since they are talking about handpicking of candidate, my advice for him is to withdraw from the race. I believe he will listen to voice of reason.

Good morning, you certainly may not believe it but the truth is that some top politicians are here on Nairaland.

Secondly, Nairaland is not really a faceless forum as most people believe; government can easily get information about anyone/everyone here provided that we all registered with an activeemail address, thank you.

Proudlyomonna:
Not His fault though �
Na the southern greed amongst themselves be their main cash out sha.

Not what you think ok, in the last PDP presidential primary, North had more delegates than the entire South; this is also the same with APC presidential primary.

If South want it, we must get voters from Northern delegates, presidential primaries is by simple majority and not like the general election where 25% vote is needed from all region, thank you.

Esama:
Please speak for your igbo people alone stop speak on our behalf in ss I have been cautioning you igbo.

Please read the comment you quoted again, the person you called Igbo is not Igbo, thank you.

Beremx:
I am being treated at home. Done the necessary tests. Thanks for your concern. I appreciate

Sorry, get well soon.

MyExpression:
Who posted parts of a video clip just to justify nonsense?

I will not vote Tinubu but I will not go this low to tarnish his image.
Y'all haters should stop cheap propaganda.

I guess he was talking bout how Real Estate is a big part of America's economy...and when that sector collapsed due to natural land disaster, it grossly affected the whole of America's economy.

He is sound and making a sound juxtaposition.
He single-handedly industrialised Lagos state both as a governor and as a godfather.
Gross corruption is his only undoing.

Vote for Accountability, Vote for PETER OBI

Good morning, your position is well understood, few sane people are still here. Politics should be without bitterness and hate.