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Adeniyimi:

NgwaManNaija4LF: :


E pain you sir. No apologies,i stand my ground.

Making milions in darkness, you see your life?

Yes thats fine. We enjoy life. Partying everywhere and our bank account is fat, we build houses, buy cars. We dont pay mortgage here for our lifetime or financing a car. We do pay off

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...which draw out envy out of them. Imagine a young hardwork Nigerian resident, with networth in millions of dollars. An In-law who came back home and set up law practice once told me he was shocked at the opportunities his childhood friends had taken and how it translated into their networth. He cited an example of a friend (also a lawyer) who had built a house in Lekki and when they did a valuation, it was work $1.2m back then. He said he reasoned that such will take an average European over 20years to pay in mortgage

rgee:
After several years as a major public officer abike dabiri should know better dan to just open her mouth and talk anyhow now! She is too respected to descend so low abeg! She is a huge figure to some nigerians youths! SMH

The only low she probably attempted is engaging the lowlife in conversation in the first place

stevecantrell:
The guys tone was somewhat condescending, and Ms. Dabiri's tone was simply out of a sheer desire to cut short a conversation which was going nowhere.
You can't hold her to Ransome over that. BTW, the man in question is also Nigerian and he knows the peculiarities that made him leave Nigeria in the first place.

Spot on Bro

danites3:

ChinonsoDike2: :


Illegal immigrant?! Lol. He's a doctor, you starving idiot.

Being a Doctor is not the same as being legitimate in a foreign land. I know medical doctors that are going about with expired documents . It's failures like you that see Doctors as special human being... I read the course of my choice up to post-graduate level and also in oversea, hence, these things are not big deals to me like they are to you.

@danites3,

You nailed it. These diasporans and their arse-kissers don't get it. That he's a doctor and so what? We have seen diasporans who despite the situation in the country have come back home quietly and set up their practice without noise. In Lagoon hospitals, I see consultants in Diaspora who come home to take sabbatical, exchange programs and stuffs. I stand to be corrected, hospitals like Reddington was set up by disporan who brought his investment back home. Companies like Zinox, then Robert's Cafe, Pragmatic computers, ProForce etc...... were these asking for a bucket list of amenities?

sam90s:
To be fair, she didn't asked anyone to come home, only to partner in developing the country, you can contribute to that wherever you reside, you don't have to come home, perhaps, the guy's probably used to being implored to come home(which is understandable), for now, returning home from the comfort level of Western Europe and the US is more like a sacrifice, not a job application where you need to access the prospect available for you from a prospective employer, I guess she should have acted like a 'politician', but then she couldn't help it, I'm sure would've have made a similar response if it was me as well.

The guy is a statistic and an unimportant one jare............

slimfit1:

Icemany: :
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"HE was once a FEMALE media WOMAN"
English na waa!

Make sure that English put food on your table sha .

It obviously is out of the list of what put food on your table, makes one to wonder why you try to communicate by it. At least we understand pigin.

loomer:
But truth be told, our leaders no sabi talk. I we stop to dey protect their bad speeches.

E get the way me as a person go reply that guy and not even one person go criticise my response

Bros,

Some retorts needs no pampering. Half of the guys castigating Abike did not read the precedent, the other half are lacking in comprehension, so are simply just follow-follow.

When a statistic feels the posterity of a nation depends on him coming to a ready made bed, then such should be Shushed!

sweetgala:
For someone who lives abroad I find it most dishonest and unjust for us to live in a good environment, with peace and all other trappings and expect the people in Nigeria to suffer and build the nation so we can all come back and benefit from their painful sweat.

If you want to stay put abroad do so, no one is asking anyone to come home. However if you have any nationalism in your blood you should want to go home and help out, or do so from where you are. But to want to go home to a set dinner I'm sorry is unpatriotic

@Sweetgala,

Thank you very much for your response. I kept scrolling up and down, flipping page to page hoping to find a dint of sense.............thank God I found one.

For you lot in diaspora, the gospel truth is NOBODY IS ASKING YOU TO COME HOME. Abike Dabiri has just spoken the truth IMO and whether withing a context or out of it, the truth still subsists. I remember a trip I had to UK in 2008 and I stayed with a family friend. It was almost like we'd clashed on virtually every topic that has to do with Nigeria. They practically drew comparison with virtually everything, trying to convince me that their lives were better. Imagine pointing to waste collection and asking me that do we have such in Nigeria? I also rationalised to another friend in South Africa, that even though we don't have constant electricity at the moment as a country, I told him that with a combination of my Inverter and 2 generators, I guarantee uninterrupted power in my house and I spend less than the average South African, Londoner etc........seeing that I punctured his argument, he then went to ask why should I be the one to provide for myself and not government.

I have exception for the arrogance of diasporans, and it's high time we "home-based" begin to put them in their places, as such replies like Abike's comes in precisely correct. Diasporas that will try to arrogantly tell you how much they are better, while most of them live sub-par in these countries. Some of these guys live in dingy council flats, basic condos and slaves to the system of the country, yet paint another picture to people back home. A friend came into the country and was suprised at the quality of car, the another friend brought to the airport to pick him with. He called me and was asking do you guys use such quality cars in Nigeria?

Some of these useless diasporans seems to know more of Nigeria's problems more that we that live here. They get on social media and paint pictures beyond the realities of what is happening. They never contributed jack to the development of the country, they now want luxury to be lined up on red carpet to ferry them home.

For the records, I am living in Nigeria by choice, my family make the summer trips (we're even tired of that one self). My siblings and my wife's siblings live abroad and some of these bulshit come from a few of them too. I was told a relative that if you wait too long before coming home, even your juniors would have advanced beyond your entry point in all strata of the society (business and politics especially)

Nutshell, anybody that doesn't want to come home should stay the FVCK away and not shove our deficiencies in our faces. Stewwwpid Ass lowlifes, who couldn't hack it in Nigeria, ran abroad now what a chariot ride back home

YoursGEJ:
If you say that Buhari has not performed FAR better than Jonathan on Boko Haram, you are lying to yourself and you know it

There is no basis of comparing Buhari to Jonathan. We have bade goodbye to wasted past

stevebond007:
EKITI IS ALSO CAPABLE.

You think this is about buying "boli" and "Pomo" on the roadside?

justinmonalisa:
#istandwithbuhari Nigerian's don't need any marching around the world to support buhari in the anti-corruption war. We all know how corruption has eaten into the fabric root of our society.And Nigerian's home and in diaspora are already in support. Hence, organizing a march and ear-marking such an amount is irrelevant and not necessary.That money can be Plough back into the economy. The organizers should find some other things to do.

It is not even supported by the government. It is a scam to mislead people into thinking that with Buhari's name, they will curry favours by donating money. It's the same old scam that had been used since time immemorial. I can hedge my bets that Chinedu has not seen Buhari beyond TV......

opia1984:
How wud d President face IDP's wen they giving #Istandwithbuhari 1 BILLION NAIRA loool evil

Who told you Buhari or the presidency recognises him or has given him a dime?

obailala:
Of course Kayode isnt denying his support for Buhari. But obviously, sycophant groups like the istandwithbuhari etc are just made up of political jobbers looking for cash.

Bros,

I know. Much more Kayode is trying to ward off fake Buharist, jobbers and scammers

amtaken:
That's how you see it.

Is there any politician that 'politicks' for free?

Even the so-called NGO's are not for free.

There is no law against supporting a president or otherwise.

If he's using that to defraud people, then Kayode needs to lodge a complaint to EFCC instead of ranting on social media, giving people the impression that he's against standing with Buhari.

Mind you I don't stand with Buhari.

I don't care who whether you stand with Buhari or not, or who does or not. what is condemnable is the attempt to use Buhari's name in attempt to raise fund for useless ventures, tricking people into donating monies to buy T-shirts and stuffs. the notion that this is a legimate way to make money is downright ridiculous.....

Kayode has done beyond reporting him to the EFCC, he's gone ahead to whistle blow the scam for the world to know.

fabre4:
I thought kayode said he is UK based and he has no history of street protest so which kayode u dey talk about

That is the problem with you guys, you don't bother to read well enough before jumping into wrong conclusions. It was the #IstandwithBuhari scammers that accused Kayode Ogundaminis of having not history of street protest and stuffs.........my submission is based on the fact that I know firsthand that Kayode Ogundamisi is not just and social media activist, he's also on the streets. Himself and some UKbased activitist collaborated with some Nigerians activists to independently campaign for Buhari, I got the invite but was unfortunately in South Africa when the event took place.

Some exerpts below
"You are leaving for Nigeria in a couple of weeks. Have you been paid to campaign for Buhari?
It is obvious that 14 years of PDP and 6 years of Jonathan Presidency have reduced your perception of political participation to a cash and carry affair. Nigeria is not for sale. No, I have never been paid to campaign for, support or mobilize for Buhari. In 2011, I got a loan of £5000 from Barclays Bank, the records are available, I bought my plane ticket for £600 and donated what was left to the CPC and Buhari campaign team.
I recalled Nasir El-Rufai asking me how I would survive for the entire period of the campaign. I did survive and we are in 2014. I have purchased my ticket again. I am going to Nigeria because I believe you have to walk the talk. I could have taken the easy way out and got involved in Jonathan’s conference like some of my diaspora colleagues did. They got over 46Million naira just for recycling the same documents passed on by Babangida and Abacha’s conferences.
I am not the only one, we have a number of Nigerians in diaspora who are contributing to the Buhari campaign. I don’t have permissions to share names but someone is donating his family home for the period of my stay in Abuja and he’s just one Nigerian tired of the level of cluelessness of the Jonathan administration. In 2011, we lived on bread, sardine and water as we travelled across Nigeria with Buhari and the CPC. My joy is that today, Nigerians are donating every little amount to help in the campaign for change."

naptu2:
It's got nothing to do with ethnicity. For example, the clown called Chief Abdullahi Yomi Tokoya is not igbo.


Yomi Tokoya started out as a praise singer for Chief MKO Abiola and General Ibrahim Babangida. He published many books and composed many songs in which he praised the two men, eg, General Ibrahim Babangida: a patriotic leader of our people (published in 1988).

He eventually wormed his way into General Oladipo Diya's circle and started publishing books in which he condemned Chief Abiola and General Babangida and praised General Abacha. He formed the "General Sani Abacha Movement for Peaceful and Successful Transition Programme" (GESAM '98). In this way he became close to General Abacha.

He started spying on General Diya on behalf of Abacha and was one of those that provided information to Abacha that led to the arrest of Diya.

However, General Abacha could easily see through Chief Tokoya and he knew that Tokoya was a hustler, a praise singer and that he was unreliable, so he ordered his ADC and his CSO not allow Chief Tokoya into the Aso Rock Villa again. Chief Tokoya repeatedly tried to see General Abacha and he was eventually arrested (in January 1998) and linked to the 1997 coup.

He was released by General Abubakar (after Abacha's death) and he filed a petition at the Oputa Panel against Major Hamza Al-Mustapha and Brigadier Sabo, claiming that they prevented him from seeing Abacha and had him arrested and tortured. He then tried to withdraw the petition when he realised that Al-Mustapha and Sabo came prepared to disgrace him. He sang christian worship songs and claimed that he had forgiven Sabo and Mustapha and told Mustapha to repent.

However, Mustapha and Sabo opposed his attempt to withdraw the petition because Yomi Tokoya had already damaged their reputation and they should have the right to respond to the allegations and clear their name.

They tendered books, audio and video evidence that showed that Tokoya was a praise singer (in one book he is praising Abiola and in the next book he is condemning him. He did the same thing to Generals Babangida and Diya). They also tendered Abacha's letter to the ADC and CSO in which Abacha wondered why they allowed Tokoya into the Aso Rock Villa, despite the fact that he had previously ordered them not to. He again warned them that he didn't want to see Tokoya in the Villa again. Father Kukah wondered how such characters could easily gain access to the Presidency. Chief Tokoya was thoroughly disgraced.

He vanished and reappeared in 2011 as the ANPP candidate for the Lagos State gubernatorial elections. He spent most of the 2011 Lagos governorship debate praising Governor Fashola and basically repeating what Fashola was saying (he even said "Eko o ni baje" ). It was so bad that one of the members of the panel asked him why he was contesting the elections if he felt that Fashola had done so well (Tokoya muttered some gibberish about constructive criticism). Olisa Agbakoba tried to confront him about his reputation as a praise singer, but he skilfully dodged the question.

It's not about ethnicity. There are praise singers everywhere.

Here is a video of Tokoya singing christian worship songs at the Oputa Panel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkVnWyekJ2s

Naptu,

You just made my day. I never knew it was the same Tokoya.......... It is important that we find people out and expose them. Another person that has come to my attention Yinka Odumakin, who was recently exposed by Chief Ayo Opadokun, especially how he's moved from Tinubu, to Afenifere, to Afenifere Renewal Group, to Buhari in CPC, to Jonathan and ..........who knows what next

ajepako:
How can this indomie generation remember YEAH (Youth earnestly asking for Abacha) led by omo ale Daniel Kanu and his punk hair cut..

chai.. that guy chop Abacha soo tey but later dissapeared when the old despot died.

But of course the mumu standing with buhari dont know that bcs majority of them were running naked playing with tyres then and they want us to believe their idiotic hashtag is for free..

Daniel Kanu made so much money to the extent he was even give "free access" to cheaply buy Durbar Hotel in Kaduna for his father....

I picture the scenario that had Chinedu not be busted, he will have raised the money, gone ahead with the scam 9million man march that will hardly be attended by 200people, there will be hangling and argument over funds, he will take flight and leave Nigeria for someone years only to come back and repeat the same old scam. Have we heard the classic case of an Alchemist scammer going round Europe in the 1800s, promising to help them "chemically-produce gold" in 7years, for a share of the taxes. When people get tired of him or suspects him, he goes to another country to repeat the scam..the scam almost lasted him a life time.

If we are not careful, these guys will make so much money and later emerge to be buying businesses

amtaken:
Is Mr. Kayode trying to say that those who supported the previous administration cannot support the present one?


What about Audu Ogbeh who was a PDP Chairman and now APC Minister?


Jealousy is real indeed.


If the guy supported GEJ and now feels like he should stand with Buhari, leave him alone to his faith or are you jealous that you didn't start the campaign first? You even went as far as investigating how the name was registered at the CAC. Were you rushing to register the name first and found out that they beat you to it?

If you really love Buhari as you claim, you should even want his haters to be converted to his supporters.


Paul the apostle was persecuting the Christians as Saul but later repented and became a fire brand preacher for Christ, did you see Peter or any other apostle castigate him?


As for me I don't stand with Buhari today because he is yet to impress me but if I ever have reasons to change my mind, you shouldn't start digging out my old posts against him to sideline me instead you should be happy that more people are beginning to love the one you claim to love.


I rest my case.

Madam,

You missed the essence of Mr. Kayode Ogundamisi's arguement, which is the scam that is about to be done to Nigerians by a hustler/scammer and not an altruistic nationalist.

Ferdinandu:
What you cannot remove from an average Ibo man is the ability to smell business opportunity from afar. Others do it for political affiliation but he saw a business opportunity, pls don't crucify him bills must be paid.

Having met the man being talked about. From afar you know he is a hustler for real.

....and smelling business opportunity = defrauding people to you? same you will probably argue that we should not crucify drug pushers, 419ners, kidnappers and other vices, that they saw business opportunity? Please don't insult our sensibilities, some of us have values.

eposho:
all my Yoruba ppl. wey ~#support #buhari don dey shit demself for facebook.
I told u guys from day one.
fraud is fraud ohhh.

But it is your Ibo brother wey use the same scam during Jonthan dey do this one again na.....

obailala:
Lol... As long as there is politics, there will always be political jobbers.

Abacha 1million Man March

Abacha 2million Man march

YEAA = Youths Earnestly Ask for Abacha

As soon as Abacha died...

YEAA = Youths Earnestly Ask for Abubakar

#BringBackGoodluckJonathan

GIFT - Goodluck Initiative For Transformation

GIFT and #BringBackGoodluckJonathan founded by same person (Chinedu Okpalanma) and as soon as GEJ lost...

#IStandWithBuhari (also headed by same Chinedu Okpalanma of the GIFT initiative)

In summary, the hustle is real...

Chinedu Okpalanma must be a skilled con man. Playing the same ol' scam over and over again.........

Meanwhile, for the records, Kayode Ogundamisi was amongst the people that independently campaigned for Buhari on the streets (Ikosi-Ketu, Magodo axis) that I know first hand

Gaddafithe2nd:
Bro, I got what you are saying. But the people of Osun aren't feeling the partnerships his govt had with various companies. The market is big to accommodate all players. We have cocoa plantation in Osun and many food and cash crops, he can partner with industrialised state in Nigeria and countries outside Nigeria. It is not a must he partners with Lagos.

Truth is that the two states that has the population to make such business worthwhile in Nigeria is Lagos and Kano. Meanwhile Kano is the producer, and except Osun has something else in exchange........Lagos is still the darling bride for markets.

I am also from Osun state, and I believe we should be patient........

aresa:
Funny how this wonderful partnership, great opportunity and potential benefits got lost and relegated in favor of ridiculous and absurd fixation on numbers of cattle.

Another wonderful thread derailed by the usual trolls and unintelligent crowd...


The average nigerians are 10 times worse than their useless leaders...

True dat

OlujobaSamuel:
I think we need a data capture on ogunfe, chicken, and catfish for the year also.

I agree

Gaddafithe2nd:
Nice one Governor Ambode and his counterpart from Kebbi state. This will provide Jobs and boost the economy of the two states. Where is Gov. Aregbesola? Instead of him to learn from the partnership between Lagos state and Kebbi state.

In fairness, Aregbesola started before these guys. He's already in partnership with IITA on some specialised crop production.....http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/osun-signs-mou-with-iita-on-agriculture/
http://guardian.ng/business-services/business/osun-signs-mouic-development/

but you need to understand, Lagos as a big consumer will not look the way of Osun, because Osun does not have the kind of Land mass, that will accomodate the scale Lagos is looking for.

cnnamoko:
Ewedu nko?

O nkose tailor

bayulll011:
A country that cannot feed itself,they import every thing and anything,enriching other nations,while his citizen are not healthy,Nigerian leaders are the most silly and unfortunate in the world,pathetic people,with no vision,no innovations,no idea generations,but they are expert in corruption,stealing and stupidity

.....and what value has this your needless vituperation added to the discourse?

A7:

raumdeuter: You are the clueless one

2million head of cattle every year

Meaning 6,000 per day

If anyone lives in these abbatoirs you wont argue those numbers. We never even add the ones they kill for parties every weekend

Parties in Lagos every weekend alone would be over 1,000 and almost everyone would kill 1 cattle some even kill 10 cattles for their parties

LordVoldemort: Did you read the post at all before you open that your mouth that looks like a local pit and spill rubbish. Lagos comsume 6000 cattle daily and not 30. Yeyecreature

The thread title and the Op says N2.19m cattle, it was just modified to 2.19m after hitting fp.

but people should use their sense now..... even if the OP made the mistake, a noble thing to do is to point the attention of the OP to the error and not jump, albeit ignorantly-foolishly to criticise the governor.

raumdeuter:

bettercreature: :
Lagosians are actually consuming atleast over 15 million naira worth of cows every day,this man is clueless and in some places they are killing like 20-30 cows every day

There was one day they killed 10 cows in my presence,that is 1.5million naira in just one abbatoir and lagos has like 10

You are the clueless one

2million head of cattle every year

Meaning 6,000 per day

If anyone lives in these abbatoirs you wont argue those numbers. We never even add the ones they kill for parties every weekend

Parties in Lagos every weekend alone would be over 1,000 and almost everyone would kill 1 cattle some even kill 10 cattles for their parties

@raumdeuter, many of these guys are intellectually immature, when you add the clandestine bigotry to the mix you understand the plight of people like @bettercreature.

What people fail to realise is that both state are signing an agreement based on a proposal where the economics had been run. When you run project economics, you do not rely on unverifiable data. Lagos State can only rely for now on the input from the registered butchers in registered abattoirs. Remember that these butchers also transport their "kill" through Lagos State run Meat-Vans. Lagos State will not include cows killed in Kara (bother-line Ogun State) in the stats, even though I can hedge my bets that over 90% of the meat killed in Kara will end up in Lagosians stomachs.

We should also realise that Lagos State, for strategic reasons may choose to "understate" the numbers, to protect their turf. I believe th numbers are way much more than that. Aregbesola had given a picture 3 years ago, when he commenced an investment in the state run Ranch farm, that over 10,000 cows are killed in Lagos everyday and he wants to target 10% of that market.

What I believe is more important is the takeaway from these bilateral business relationships. Have we ever wondered that over N500billion moves in Lagos, just for the consumption of meat? Those of us in 9-5 jobs are screaming blue murder to those numbers. We are allowing such a magnitude of money to be managed by illiterates, when we can get into the fold and tripple that amount in 5years by adding more value to meat consumption. We just learnt an example with tomatoes, that a over 50% of tomatoes planted end up in waste and that we import tomatoes from China. Dangote is closing that gap now. Guess where again huge farming investment is going - North (Kano).

Truth is that people are beginning to wake up. In my research work, I stumbled on literature that characterised 3rd world developing countries. Land is one key competitive advantage that was flagged as weapon for these countries. Countries that have used Land very well have gained some measure of economic prosperity.

oglalasioux:

Mprepz: :
is he trying to support those abbokkis

Yes.

It's only when we start thinking like Ambode that Nigeria will develop. Have you ever heard of Terms of Trade?

Nigeria need to decentralize and allow the geopolitical zones to develop and use Terms of Trade to grow their economies and help the centre only on the exclusive list.

@oglalasioux, you know what is heartening?

1. States like Kebbi are beginning to wake up and realise that the vast arable lands in the North is a great asset and competitive advantage for them. The problem of draught can be easily solved with technology. Lagos State deserves applauds for taking the Initiative quicker than any other state or country, because if we're not careful, other countries will come to establish and run farms in the North, export the crops and we end up importing what was initially taken from us (just like crude oil)
2. Secondly, a State like Kebbi will begin to push their IGR and be less dependent on Oil.
3. Many of these Abokis accident-waiting-to-happen-Okada-riders will have incentives to go back to the farm, which I believe is their first love and they are skilled at

What do I find disheartening? With comments of the likes of @Mprepz, you know that many people still needs redemption


I am concerned that the East has not come up in terms of preparation for Agriculture. Are they interested in bilateral relationships or are they just going to be at the bottom of the pyramid

Mynd44:

anonimi: :
HOW exactly did Ambode get this statistics or he just pulled it out of his fat brain ni
How many STATISTICIANS are employed by LASG for such reliable data to be generated?

I am not sure about rice but as a result of tax and the butchers' associations, they have a rough estimate of how many individual animal is slaughtered each day, week, month and year.

So it is not so difficult to have a correct numver of the number of animals sold each day excluding the animals bought from individuals from outside the state and killed at home i.e. Someone going to Ibadan to buy animals for a wedding or naming ceremony can't be calculated but those killed and sold (in the abbatior are recorded) since taxes/levies are paid on each

@Mynd44,

why are you telling him what he should naturally and logically have reasoned himself?

Why don't you help us by telling us the defict statistician in Lagos state employ? How many are not employed at the moment. You also forgot to tell us what is the correct stats.....or is it in your thin brain?

anonimi:
HOW exactly did Ambode get this statistics or he just pulled it out of his fat brain ni
How many STATISTICIANS are employed by LASG for such reliable data to be generated?



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