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Drekaz:
Leaving the issue we were talking about to blab about smartness. Thought you will furnish us with pictures and probably name if VCs and Rectors of the 10 institutions being created.
Enjoy your smartness nigga and your next level I guess, I go dey hail una from this side!

How can I furnish you with anything you don't have the smarts to understand.

So some PDP Senators-elect voted for Lawan. This is the result of good negotiations.......Win-Win

Drekaz:
Guess going to Google to get this link is the smartest thing you have done in your life. "And all I did was to google".
So setting up a committee is tantamount to establishing tertiary institutions? And he set up the committee in April, barely a month to the expiration of his tenure. If he was so bent on creating those institutions and taking credit for them, why not do it at the beginning of his second tenure at least and make sure it comes to fruition before leaving office?
How do you people think sef? He did not create one institution, rather six, in a state that has 5 institutions already with ALL of them suffering from gross underfunding.
You just wake up every morning and go online to believe every trash you see without discernment.
Its actually pitiful that people dont use their God given brains anymore, to think it was given to them free of frigging charge, quite unfortunate.

Well by your "standards" I'm better....unlike you yet to do anything smart.

CodeTemplar:
You are free to take it as anything you want. Abuja alone makes a mockery of Lagos.
You hardly see senseless disorganisation you see in Lagos in Abuja. It is the adjoining states like Niger, Nasarawa and Kogi that introduce disorderliness to Abuja. Let small Lagos with huge earning improve on her road network alone.

It would have been more honorable if you can articulate your argument in a logical manner and not resort to sentimental hues and cries. I see you have lagos. You're so upset that you cannot make a meaningful comparison

CodeTemplar:
The new IMO Governor might have reversed the moves of Rochas out of bitter politics but I support the move and think it is the right thing to do. We need a blend of quality and quantity in Education and not all those mushroom learning centers Governors are creating 1 or 2 to the end of a 8 year ms stay.

1. You support a move done out of bitterness? You support a move that was not backed with any iota of explanation to show the benefits vs alternative?
2. Quality and Quantity education? pls tell that to the marines. This is just the same ole excuse that do not allow states to grow.
3. It would have even been honourable had Iheadio refered the issue of the creation of 6 universities and 4 polytechnics to a committee of seasoned educationist and business professionals to look at the feasibility and otherwise and advise him. This decision and approach is so amateurish and looks pretty bad.
4. Finally does Imo want to progress or retrogress? The world has moved on from the foolish politics of destroying your predecessor's works. You end up being consumed. Ambode will testify to this. The people are now aware that it is them you're spiting. Ihedioha by this action is spiting the people and not Rochas.

CodeTemplar:
Lagos isn't working in the real sense of things. When you juxtapose their earnings against their achievements, you see that Lagos is even far below average.

...and as compared to what? Can you give 3 cities in Africa within the same earning bracket and population as comparatives? else I will take this your statement as uninformed sentimental cry.

Drekaz:
Please sir, kindly help this forum list the names of the 6 Universities and 4 Polytechnics that were created. It seems you have first hand information even though I suspect you dont know where Imo state is.
Talking about ill-information and propaganda.

https://guardian.ng/news/ihedioha-kicks-as-okorocha-sets-up-committee-on-six-tertiary-schools/

....and all I did was to google.....

dingbang:
Look at the stupid comments I am reading on nairaland today. The reason why lagos is the only state that is working is because of succession, you will not see Sanwo Olu tearing down structures that Ambode built but starting from where he stopped, same thing ambode did after Fashola.

But what do you have in other states, total nonsense!

Bros,

You don't need to come to Lagos before we address something that not only does not make sense, but turns logic on its head. Olagunsoye Oyinlola created Osun State University with about 6 Campuses. Aregbesola came, he argued that it was too expensive to run 6 campuses and that all should be consolidated into one. He referred this to the Wole-Soyinka led education summit. This was further escalated to virtually all stakeholders concerned. At the end of the day Aregbesola lost the debate and 6 or so campuses still remains.

I would have thought there was a strategy in the creation of the 6 Universities and 4 Polys with each to serve a specific purpose. What was wrong with the strategy, Ihedioha did not address. How will it affect Imo people? NO? But it must be about eliminating any trace of Rochas. This is just a case of biting the nose to spite the face.

SEGLIZ:
......... he is doing the right thing but with a wrong motive. making his effort and move a wrong one at that.

Pls elaborate on how "he's doing the right thing"?

deomelo:

Joshmodest: :

How wrong !
A school that is not fully balanced as a polytechnic , is upgraded to a university , all in the name of achievement listings , and conferring positions , Yaba college of technology for instance, even tho it's been paraded , as the best polytechnic in Nigeria and on several occasions has been poised to assume a university of technology status , it still remains a polytechnic ...
polytechnics and universities serve different purposes , and if not for the Inferiority complex amongst Nigerian students , no one is above the other , if every polytechnic is been upgraded to a university how will the students ,who wish to attend polytechnic cope , we have enough universities already , govt should work on improving the ones on ground , not creating new ones from struggling polytechnics !

Good move from Ihedioha !

See needless hate, misinformation and propaganda

The former governor created 6 universities, 4 polytechnics and even free education on top.

Stop exaggerating and quit acting as if he eliminated the only polytechnic in the state, you are ill-informed.

Ill-informed did you say? Me I see willful ignorance with spices of "arrogance" and "not-so-intelligent" submissions.

95% of the people above me did not read the piece before commenting.

Phlakes:
open should not Comman tell us later that the girl packed her load and go to her father's house after small misunderstanding

How she'll fare in marriage cannot be predicted. She probably could have a successful marriage....and a fun-filled and fulfilled life

Did I see "decipher"? �

lonelygem:
I don't admit what people tell me 100%, I weigh things and decipher..
No one loves telling the true side of a story and implicating his or herself.

My questions are clear enough and the poster is yet to respond to them.

She's from a poor background, admitted! But was she from a wealthy background when u met her? Did the family suddenly became broke?

She's not yet in school, fine! Was she an undergraduate or seeking admission when u started with her? Did she suddenly drop out of school?

At least there must be a hidden notion behind certain actions.

He was quite aware of the age margin and other factors..

What was his motivation for dating her in the first place?


He should tell us something so that we don't assume he's one of those guys who cant take their eyes away from those small small girls with tomato breast.

Babamide:
Bros, reason am now....... why would you date a girl 12years younger??

Simple answer, he preference. Any problem with that?

HitSong:
Ignoramus
Did he tell you he just started dating her?

Run ong squat... You're not mature enough, neither are you intelligent

Babamide:
Bros, reason am now....... why would you date a girl 12years younger??

Date a girl? Hell no

Date a woman 12yrs younger? Why not.

Is an 18yr old a girl or a woman?

elantraceey:
Who is a minor if I may ask?

15 for starters

elantraceey:
1. They are not my friends.
2. They are not married yet but only desire marriage.
3. An average Igbo man takes care of his woman, its what gives them pride so you had hear sad stories unlike the hausas where the young girl could be the 4 wife.

Madam,

the point you miss is simple. We are not in discussion of "an average igbo man" or "an average Hausa man". Such discussions are should be left out of intellectually sound debates. We are talking about what is legal. Secondly I do not see any sense in an overt generalisation that does not even buttress your point. If anyone is having sexual or marital relationship with a minor, it is illegal.

garfield1:
Give me some minutes
Section 68 (a,b & c) of the Electoral Act ( with its amendments) provides that “ the decision of the Returning Officer on any question arising from or relating to-(a) unmarked ballot paper; (b) rejected ballot paper; and (c) declaration of scores of candidates and the return of a candidate shall be final subject to review by a tribunal or court in an election petition proceedings under this Act”
Section 75(2) of the Electoral Act, 2010 (with its amendments) states that “where the Commission refuses and, or neglects to issue a certificate of return, a certified true copy of the order of a court of competent jurisdiction shall, ipso facto, be sufficient for the purpose of swearing in a candidate declared as the winner by that court.
A combined reading and construction of the above two cited provisions of the Electoral Act make it luminously clear that any decision of a Returning Officer on the declaration of scores of a candidate and the return of a candidate shall be final, and same shall be subject to review by a tribunal or court in an election petition proceedings. It is our humble submission that if a Returning Officer, upon making a declaration, takes a “decision” to report an alleged coercion and compulsion to make a declaration to INEC, that report, which is an inextricable part of result declaration, can validly lead to a decision not to issue a certificate of return to an alleged winner of the election. It is submitted that the decision not to issue a certificate of return qualifies as one of the “decision of the Returning Officer on any question arising from or relating to …..declaration of scores or return of a candidate…” within the meaning and intendment of Section 68 of the Electoral Act.
Section 75(2) is even more instructive. The subsection recognises that INEC may “refuse” or “neglect” to issue a certificate of return and that in that case, a certified true copy of an order of court shall be sufficient for the purpose of swearing in a candidate that may be declared as the winner by that court.
What this subsection implies is that upon refusal or neglect by INEC to issue a certificate of return, a court action (election petition) may be filed by a person so declared but denied a certificate of return, to seek declaratory reliefs that he is the winner who should be issued the certificate of return.
Until such an order is obtained, INEC, as the election management body, and pursuant to its statutory and administrative powers may, for good cause and compelling reasons, withhold a certificate of return.

Bros,

Everything I put in blue are either yours or a lawyer's argument and not the section of the constitution. I am looking for a place in the constitution that establishes the criteria for INEC to declare result and subsequently withhold it. This two section you quoted does not state the criteria

hope4life:
Except if you are a Christian who will convince someone that it's God's will for your life which I doubt considering the age difference, I will have advised you to let her go.
1.Avoid infatuation, if you marry her,you will see a lady that will fit your spec in future but you won't be able to do anything about it.She is still very young.
2.I will NEVER advise two persons from.poor backgrounds to marry each other humanly speaking.The burden on any of the couple that has small lift will be too.unbearable if you will want to be responsible.Imagine your parents and hers,your siblings and hers seeing you as a Dangote on the salary of #50k per.mth even #100k-200k can't survive if if you want to please them.

Lemme understand you, you mean "Age-Difference" is an indicator of "God's will"?

olumalcolm:
Alaye go and face ur life and ur siblings, support ur sis or ur bro to learn a trade or go to sch. You wont be too old to marry at 32 or 33. Invest in ur family nw cos u r nt married so dey cm first b4 anybody.

Another pragmatic and wise angle.

Dacman:
The way you guys think baffles....you call a 18year old a child!!!.its this mentality that keeps an average Nigerian dependent on there parents while kids in Europe and America break boundaries at that age...black man mentality

I agree

Lovelyn451:
Marry her Jare and put her through school, she wont leave you by Gods grace...afterall most crashed marriages are between two matured, exposed adults who already knew what they want before getting married yet they end up in divorce...please dont miss that girl b4 u end up in regret, even her parents is in support reason they always remind you that you're nt married to her whenever she stays overtime, so please do the needful sharp sharp

I like your response and "Jare".

BananaTree:

funmisticqueen: :
in essence you want him to put someone else's daughter to subjugation and poverty so you can claim man of the house.

Op, there is no pressure to marry, if you are complaining about bills then you are not as financially. stable as you would have us believe. Sending her to school is something you ought to do because you want to with no strings attached, not because you want to marry her, if you marry her now, she won't have enough experiences to upgrade her life, she will always be your shadow. But then that is what you want.

If you can't wait for her to mature a little, then you don't really love her at all. let her choose you, don't pressurize her

You're simply not being honest or practical. There is no free lunch anywhere. It's either someone is paying directly or indirectly. Selfishness is engrained in the nature of man. No one does anything for God, though, they may not admit it like you may eventually do after reading this but on critical evaluation, there is always more.

It is not even selfishness. Why should the OP "invest" his time, money and emotion in something that can potentially end up a waste?

Yewandequeen:
If only the girl in question knows how many people are deliberating on her matter

My take on this is that Op doesn't have to marry her yet just cos he wants security of sending her to school. Are there not people that offer such out of free will?

Rare. Some will send her to school because she's the side-chick. Life is unfair many times

mastermaestro:
You don't have to persuade anybody. It is the old single 'girls' that engage in endless wailing about age when they see young girls getting married. They are suffering from jealousy and lack of marital opportunities.

I am sorry, but can't help laughing to this

Phlakes:
Will you be able to cope with her psychologically, you can't compare ur maturity with hers, so expect some childish behavior

From the days of our fore-fathers, this tickles men

desthan:
Can't you assist her if God has blessed you, and leave marraige out of it.

I believe he can.... but what he wants from her is marriage.

fascia:
This is somehow tricky.
Though maturity differs but I think she's still young, she definitely doesn't know what she want. Let her experience life small before she is tied down with marriage. Let her explore on her own at lest you did too.. So she won't regret loosing her youth to marriage.

Concerning education, any contribution you make there should be considered a donation or investment In a person you care about, love as u said.this should be done with no aim of getting anything back, even marriage. Don't make it a blackail or bondage for her. Let her know you see in a her a future partner and u love her and it her decision to marry you or not... Let her choose u it's easier that way. You can pay for her first 2 years in school, preferably pay part and let her parents do the rest,afterall she's their child.

Consider the 2 years a courtship/dating...it will shed more light on if you love each other/compactibility.at the end of the 2nd year ,you can both decide if you want to marry each other, you that claim to love her now might think differently later.
Use the 2 years to develop yourself more financially,you would be surprise what you can do with proper motivation.

Lastly I understand time is not a commodity you can afford but anything worthwhile take time, effort and hardworking. It's marriage it has to be done well.
My 2 cent

I like your "humane" submission to a large extent........but

1. Life is not always as simple. If her parents cannot afford to send her to school, then she probably will cross to another trajectory. The life she "will explore" may be different (probably more turbulent, tortuous and worse off)
2. "Investment in someone you care about"? Bros, we are human, and pardon me if I say this is not "Bible Story". Donation, yes, I can agree with....but the big question Why will he be busy "donating" when he should focus on finding a wife, which is his primary objective? Besides, the world had become harsher and stories of people who made those "investments" in the past discourages one from recommending such. In classic Yoruba setting when dating couples are about to be separated especially if one of them is travelling abroad, they commit in one form or the other (engagement or marriage)

lonelygem:
What was your motivation for dating her at the beginning bro?

I want to assume the relationship involved sex and now, 18 against 30. Can you swear that you were not having this plans of calling it quit with her?

You are creating an impression of being a good guy after taken advantage of the poor girl.

If you heard this done to your younger sister, how would u feel? Would your mind pray for such guy or otherwise?

If you are good at structuring your stories, know that some others are good at listening..

I'd rather hurt you with truth than console you with lies..

No offense meant bro.

Nairaland is one of the most funny places on the web. You went on an imagination trip on the guy, repackaged his narrative, saying what the guy neither said not alluded to, then descended on him with insults and summed it up as the truth?

Some of you are just comical

garfield1:
Under the electoral law,inec has the discretionary powers to withhold certificates under extreme cases for just a short period and the courts also have the powers to order inec to issue out certs.i opened a thread on this once

Can you furnish us with this section of the law? I want to study it

elantraceey:
I have an Hausa lady friend that was married off at 14 and trust me you wouldn't want any lady in your life to go through what she have been through . Everyone is entitled to how they want to live their lives as long as they're hurting nobody , just don't force or decieve people into what they'll regret later.

... and you "conveniently" missed the experience of your 15yr-old igbo friends?