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RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 9:30am On Dec 23, 2019
@Weselion

Regarding your long post, I would say a lot of simps can't be saved. They must learn the hard way.
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 8:34am On Dec 23, 2019
KevinDein:
Whoa, it's almost like these women are only interested in men's money.
Women are only interested in men's money.
FamilyRe: My Wife Denies Me Sex Always by Martinez39(m): 7:27am On Dec 23, 2019
portune:
What should I do about this? I am gainfully employed. Gives her 60k for house upkeep. I buy bulk thinks like yam , rice, oil tomato etc. She locks shop on me always. I need your thoughts on this pls.

Always giving excuses. At night, "I am tired". In the morning, "go work abeg others have left and making money and you are here looking for who to ram."

Even few moments I press her to it she will insult me sotee my prick falls down.
Has you marriage produced kids?
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 7:21am On Dec 23, 2019
AussiePlayboy:
Wise man.. I think we need to re educate man thinking foreign women are better. It's a whole different load of troubles
Don't mind them. They are just naive.
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 3:10am On Dec 23, 2019
Vicboy1:
Martinez39 but the truth about women is so painful that is why some men start hating women after knowing the redpill
Oh yes! When you take the red pill for the first, you become disappointed in women and you look upon them with disgust and disregard as you go through the red pill rage. Ironically, such feeling shows you have a good moral compass. With time, you make peace with female nature, you pursue your goals, and you stop making women and romantic relationships your priorities. grin
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m):
Trex4:
Martinez please advice me. I'm going to delete this post soon but I have a girl I've been looking at since July. She told me she was single and wanted me just as a friend when I asked her out. Since then I still hanged on and helped her in some ways that made both of us close. Then I tried asking her out again in December and she said she already has a boy friend, that she accepted him recently and hopes our friendship isn't strained. Please what do I do Now? As I'm really down
I am not a dating coach and I believe romantic relationships are a complete waste of time, energy, and resources for men. However, I would advise you stop thinking like child. Matured minds know that life, people, and things can't always go the way they want. Also, for goodness sake, never be desperate to get the love of your fellow human being. If a girl says she is not interested, accept the rejection and move on. It's childish and outrightly stupid to force the issue because it reeks of entitlement and, in the long run, you are shooting yourself in the foot. When a girl is not interested, forget her and move on.

BTW, since the girl says she already has a boyfriend, why are you still asking "what do I do?" grin lmao. What could you do? grin Nothing! You can't force someone to love you and you should never try to force love. It makes no sense worrying and losing sleep over someone that doesn't love you. Don't be a sissy, grow up, accept the fact that things can't always go the way you want, and move on. wink
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 12:36am On Dec 23, 2019
JONNYSPUTE:
.. It's very good stuffs like these are happening
When you tell them to be careful,open their eyes and make use of their brains,they tag you a woman hater. I don comot my hand for their matter. Girls please deal with the white knights until their brains start working.
Abi. grin I don't hate women, I don't want to see marriages crash or become toxic. However, every man will do well to understand women.
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 10:47pm On Dec 22, 2019
ubunja:
wow. The mainstream media is really shitty. Also I blame men. They're too stuck in this utopian love fantasy. They need to wake up ASAP. The game has changed.
The main stream media is a blue pill indoctrination machine. The day men will wake up and start doing the right thing, that will be a complete victory. Too many thirsty simps and white knights out there. grin
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 10:37pm On Dec 22, 2019
ubunja:
what? That Netherlands story is inter rest ing.
The women filed for divorce hoping to finalise everything in 2019 so that they can get alimony for 12 years. They did not want to wait for 2020 or beyond it because it would mean alimony for 5 years. grin

As expected, the main stream media never reported this but it begs the question, how did the women, in great numbers, get to know of this change in law? Seems they have secret WhatsApp groups or some secret communication networks hidden from men. grin #sisterhood
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 9:54pm On Dec 22, 2019
Madlov3:
Bro you still don’t get. I agree that Women nature is universal the exact reason I said you’ve got good women and bad women everywhere! There are some Nigerian women you will take abroad and despite the feminist nature of the society, they will remain with you and endure difficult times in the marriage, others will capitalize on the feminist society and wreck the guy.
Also, not all foreign girls are bad too! You’ve got some that will also endure difficult times in the marriage even though they were brought up in a feminist society.
The baseline of my argument now is, for me i have opened my mind to love from anywhere!
Well, I rest my case. To each his own.

RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m): 9:51pm On Dec 22, 2019
Brownhypo:
I wonder why some girls will always cheat, no matter how nice you are to them
Girls are opportunistic with love. They are only after the cash and, to women, men are a utilities. That is why your niceness is unimportant and readily not reciprocated. Once the utility (man) is no longer providing, he is no longer welcomed, he looks irritating to the woman, and he is loathed. Also, your sacrifices, no matter how great, mean nothing to her because in her entitled and selfish mind, you are supposed to provided and meet her needs without any reciprocation because she is a woman.
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m):
Madlov3:
I agree with you except in the last part. It’s the reverse Bro! Ask guys that are based abroad! They are very careful with the type of girls they bring from Nigeria if they decide to marry from Home. Most Nigerian girls become wild when they get abroad! They capitalize on the fact that the system favors them to ruin the guy. Unlike in Nigeria where a guy can put the wife away when she messes up with no fear of legal consequences, abroad is different.
I know of a guy that married from Nigeria abroad, when the girl got there, she started misbehaving ! She connived with her mom to create hell for the guy. They eventually had a divorce and as usual half of his property was given to the girl according to USA law.

PS: they had a child and till today the guy is still paying child support
Don't kid yourself. Female nature is universal. Foreign women over there are worse than Nigerian women here even though both are brutal, ungrateful, and greedy vultures. The divorce story you mentioned happens so frequently with foreign women. All women will capitalise on the system when it suits them. It so often happens that when men bring a supposed well cultured and traditional lady from his place of origin as his wife to developed countries, the women change when they become familiar with the system and feminism. There is no unicorn anyway. Stop watching Hollywood. All girls are the same.

In the Netherlands, there was a bill passed that divorced men were going to pay alimony for 5 years instead of the usual 12 years being from 2020. Guess what? Netherlands witnessed a record breaking number of divorce cases in December 2019. (Ubunja, CAPSLOCKED, JONNYSPUTE, Omar09, healthserve, AstroG) Tell me again how foreign girls are different. The reason why I said Nigerian girls are better even though all girls are the same is because, unlike foreign girls, they don't have the tools to wreck you the way foreign girls would and feminism is not yet political in Nigeria.

We can agree to disagree. As long as you are committing your heart to women and entering into relationships and marriage, there is a limit to which you can be careful with women. Besides, you can never know which is a good girl, even if they existed, because you are not a mind reader and women are capable of great chameleon acts.
RomanceRe: Am Done With Nigerian Girls by Martinez39(m):
Madlov3:
...She appeared as a wife material but i never knew she was a devil incarnate.
They always appear like angels and wife material before marriage. It's their usual chameleon act. Unfortunately, many guys fall for this believing that their girlfriends are not like other girls only to get the shock of their lives later on. There is no NAWALT or unicorn anywhere.

Before now, say like 7months into the relationship, I bumped into her whatsapp messages and i read her chat with a guy where they were discussing different sex positions and our sex life.
I drew her attention to it and she cried all night begging me for forgiveness. I told her point blank that i forgave her because it was only whatsapp chat and there was NO SEX Involved and i would never have accept her back if Sex was involved Because i met her as a virgin.
Bad move! You should have discarded her at that moment.

Fast forward to few weeks ago, I discovered from my sources that she was actually having Sex with the guy in her lodge i warned her about.
I Initially confronted her but she denied but after showing her sufficient evidences, she confessed it was true because she knew i was already well informed and she said they had sex multiple times.
They will always deny until you show them evidence. After showing them evidence, they will confess (half truth confessions) and bring forth crocodile tears not because they are sorry but because they want your forgiveness and they want you to take them back since you are an ample provider. Funny enough, they would do it over and over again being more careful after you have caught them.

I asked her what i did wrong to her! According to her, she said this particular guy “Tries Childish stuffs with her and am too matured! Am senior to her with over 5years so am too matured to relate childish things with her. I asked her if that was a ticket to open her legs for the guy she said she actually did what she did because SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO HAVE SEX WITH ANOTHER GUY.
Honestly i felt disrespected and betrayed. This was someone that I was planning to get married to in 2020 and take to Canada o!
She begged and begged and begged but i told her i will never accept her back even though i forgave her, i just can’t accept her back again.
Bullsh!t, if she likes childish stuff why did she not discuss it with you or, in the proper way, break up with you and go with the guy that likes childish stuff? She is just playing.

I will be relocating to Canada in 2020 so i have officially closed my door against Nigerian Girls! I know there are good ppl and bad ppl everywhere but i want to open my mind now to other persons. To Canadians, Americans, Britons etc.
I used to have this mentality that an African man is not complete if he doesn’t marry an African woman but hey, that has changed now! Am now open to love from any continent.
My deal breaker in any relationship is Cheating! We can work other things out but you see cheating?? NO NO NO

So my fellow Guys shine your eyes o! That soft spoken and calm looking wife material girl may not be what she seems to be. She may jus be a devil incarnate
Oga, female nature is universal. In fact, foreign girls are worse in their countries because they are empowered socially and legally to ruin you, especially if you are stupid or naive enough to get married to them in their country and stay there. Feminism doesn't even help matters.


Ubunja, CAPSLOCKED, Omar09, healthserve, AstroG
RomanceRe: How Bad Boys Gold Dig Rich Women This Xmas Season[UPDATED) by Martinez39(m): 5:55pm On Dec 22, 2019
ubunja:
just quote me insulting another moniker and we talk about it.
Seems you are still living rent free in the head of Defenderalert (aka Lilwetd!ck). Never knew Ubunja Derangement Syndrome is a long lasting disorder. grin
RomanceRe: Heart Shattered, I Got Rejected First Time In My Existence. by Martinez39(m): 12:12pm On Dec 22, 2019
LoveElfrida:
And you think that I am not matured ba? At times, love knows no maturity, and it takes maturity to know that. A genuine love turns you to a toddler.
Okay then, you can keep worrying and feeling down that she rejected you. Good day.
RomanceRe: Dear Ladies, Please Don't Date Or Marry A Broke Guy by Martinez39(m): 12:10pm On Dec 22, 2019
Crimpsy:
Most richmen out there are either ritualist,occultic and Yahoo men.
If na so e take easy to b rich, why your popsi no become president or governor
Spiritual stuffs are ridiculous garbages. Most rich men are hard working, smart, and principled business men even though they can be shady sometimes. The fraudulent ones are usually politicians, pastors, and Gboys. Politicians and pastors are safe for girls to marry because in Nigeria, no one holds them accountable so the girl can relax and enjoy their money. Gboys can get away if they are smart.

Even though they would disagree and say otherwise, women don't care about the source of your income. As long as you are bringing in huge cash and giving her a comfortable lifestyle, women do not care. grin
RomanceRe: Ladies: Be Honest, Love Or Money. Choose One. by Martinez39(m): 12:00pm On Dec 22, 2019
Money is the rational choice.
RomanceRe: Transport Fare Scam Is Now Rampant by Martinez39(m): 11:57am On Dec 22, 2019
Naughtysite:
Oga. You don't work with any bank.

Bankers don't do online dating. That's the last thing they would do.

Girls right and left.
Trash.
RomanceRe: Heart Shattered, I Got Rejected First Time In My Existence. by Martinez39(m): 11:52am On Dec 22, 2019
LoveElfrida:
I once told her that I could kidnap her and take her to my utopia, she laughed, thought that I was kidding, but now I wished I had.

She's a lovable girl, black, bold, and beautiful, with the gaze of eternals, she's a goddess. A goddess of beauty. On our 4th date after three(3) weeks of knowing her, I made my intention known to her, she asked for a time to process everything. Alas! She came back with the big N-O, citing her career pursuit as the reason.

This is the first woman I've ever truly loved, but I was rejected. She isn't like the most ladies out there I've seen, and she isn't even driven by money or materials thing.

I've deleted all her memories- her pictures, our chats, her contact, and even our pictures, we truly bonded well. But I can't erase her memory in my head, she's already got me in her grip, I'm psychologically unbalanced ATM.
Stop acting like a child. Mature minds embrace the fact that life and things can't always go the way they want. She is focused on her career, accept that, move on, and stop whining.

"She's a lovable girl, black, bold, and beautiful, with the gaze of eternals, she's a goddess. A goddess of beauty."
SMH. grin
RomanceRe: Is My Girlfriend A Threat To Me? by Martinez39(m): 1:52pm On Dec 21, 2019
RomanceRe: At 29 I Have No Girl In My Life Due To Lack Of Good Job by Martinez39(m): 8:26pm On Dec 20, 2019
Logobenz:
I think they are just naive and see too many movies.
Women don't love men without money anywhere in the world.
You must not be Dangote but atleast be able to take care of basic necessities.
Harsh truth!
The media, movie industry, and romance novels are what brainwashed them. They are still naive.
RomanceRe: At 29 I Have No Girl In My Life Due To Lack Of Good Job by Martinez39(m): 7:37pm On Dec 20, 2019
Logobenz:
You should have just let him wallow in his ignorance.
Such a dumbass!
Capitalism over love every day.The earlier people know that there isn't any true relationship without money,the better.
Spits!
Men who think women can love them without money are in for great shock.
FamilyRe: My Wicked Wife Didn't Buy Christmas Clothes For Our House Help by Martinez39(m): 6:33pm On Dec 20, 2019
hustla:
2nd woman?
a 15 year old?


WOW!

I don dey see your posts for NL and you no dey ever talk with sense

Na this one come finally off me!
Ignore TonyeBarcanista. She is not worth the effort.
FamilyRe: My Wicked Wife Didn't Buy Christmas Clothes For Our House Help by Martinez39(m): 6:31pm On Dec 20, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
BUT WHY DO WOMEN ALWAYS MISTREAT KIDS THAT ARE NOT THEIRS? THE PART THAT GOT ME ANGRY WAS WHEN SHE STARTED CRYING IN SELF DEFENSE FOR HER STUPIDITY AND WICKEDNESS.
I MEAN, HOW CAN A GROWN WOMAN BE TOLD THAT AN OBVIOUS WRONG IS A WRONG, THEN SHE GOES ON TO CRY AND NAG IN PROTEST?
WHAT IS HAPPENING, I THOUGHT WE ALL HAVE BRAINS UP THERE??
That is their usual manipulation tactic. When things go south due their bad decisions or they are confront over their silliness and wickedness, they pull this tactic or feign ignorance to avoid taking responsibility/being held accountable and/or to turn the tables on you. Funny enough, the wife feels justified and I am not surprised if the money meant to buy the maid's cloth in the wife's secret bank account — an account the husband doesn't even know of.

The op's wife is using such tactic and has done so, successfully, with the op. Already she is angry and she didn't greet or cook for the op. What's worse is that the op has fallen for given that he is foolishly asking is he overreacted or did something wrong. Indeed, all men don't have sufficient intellect to handle simple things.
FamilyRe: My Wicked Wife Didn't Buy Christmas Clothes For Our House Help by Martinez39(m): 6:05pm On Dec 20, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
OH, MARTINEZ39, ANOTHER ONE.
I thought they said women are more compassionate, loving, caring, and nurturing than men. Guess his wife is transgender. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Martinez39(m): 4:18pm On Dec 20, 2019
ericsmith:
If i may ask, can you highlight d benefits of great white society over liberalism & globalism. should the world be about whites race or human race. @ these point i must say stop saying what you think. making points without references to history or facts makes ur submission invalid.
I never said white people should dominate and be the majority. Given that the left are upset and resentful of white people (especially straight white men) and America's identity, it is welcoming that Trump and the Republican party are willing to preserve these things. The American identity and values must not be destroyed. What is for the whites should be for the whites, and what is for blacks should be for blacks. Liberals and globalism, as seen in the left, doesn't mean what the words imply just like feminism. Different groups should be allowed to run and preserve their society, values, and identity instead of forcing them to coexist. You might not understand what I am typing except you have been vigorously following the news.

what as been the antecedents of the democrat in the history of US, was there a time socialism was adopted, or when did you see obama fighting n throwin tantrums @press or group of people,i guess you didnt know trumph violated first amendment bill, also go n read world report on human right violation under trump,

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/united-states&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJhbyA3MHmAhVQxhoKHcR1CzsQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0rYCd_ARwBSCzQUU3vBUFr
Trump did nothing.

America is not the only country with illegal immigrant , even naija wey nuttin dey get illegal immigrants. the word " illegal" was the justification trump needed buh is target where all immigrants legal or illegal, most of these immigrants engage in maniac works a white american can't even do & they are underpaid as well ... what is the ratio of immigrant to whites on white collar jobs.
Lol. Seriously?
In America, people all over the world are coming in both legally and, in thousand, illegally. Many want to be citizens or students. Also, most Americans are not migrating to other countries for greener pastures since people commonly see America as a place of greener pastures. When compared to Nigeria, illegal immigration affects them more and it is rational for Trump to do something about it.

How many people are look to Nigeria for greener pastures? How many people overseas want Nigeria citizenship or desire to attend our top schools? Many Nigerians are even leaving this country. Compare the number of those coming here to the those going to America legally and illegally and tell me which country has to worry more about illegal immigration. How many people celebrate when given Nigerian citizenship? grin Oga, I am sure the average working class Nigerians do not have their areas flooded with illegal immigrants from other countries, do they? I am sure that most Nigerians hardly ever see many areas owed and occupied by non-nigerian minorities.

Don't compare.

All along it as alway be racism & unfairness to other race, so what exactly is trump restoring to the white. bro shame on you if you are not white,
Trump is not a racist and he is not a white supremacist. He is fair and dedicated to put America first. Prove me wrong.
Foreign AffairsRe: Lady In Wheelchair Holds "I Stand 4 Trump“ Placard, Gets This Response by Martinez39(m): 11:57am On Dec 20, 2019
Could be a poor attempt at making a joke or it could be the usual resentment, wickedness, and insensitivity of liberals towards conservatives and those with merely different leanings and opinions. I suspect it is the latter. However, if the person who gave the reply is a liberal (which is probably the case instead of a stupid conservative trying to make a joke), then the hypocrisy is worth pointing out, if a conservative had given such reply to a crippled liberal holding a placard that reads "I stand with Bernie Sanders", CNN and twitter would be on fire over how "Trump supporters are a hateful group have resents minority".

It's a matter of fact that liberals are the new fascists.
RomanceRe: To My Single Igbo Sisters by Martinez39(m): 5:37am On Dec 20, 2019
jackals:
Shut up Martinez, you have been brainwashed. There are many good Ladies out there who support their men. I don't know where u lot are getting women from. When I love a man, I give him full support
....

RomanceRe: To My Single Igbo Sisters by Martinez39(m): 12:34am On Dec 20, 2019
emmaodet:
Bro leave that. Which of the igbos are traditionally moral? We better start telling ourselves the truth that a lot of nigerian girls don cut rope.
Is it the ones sleeping around mercilessly? From the write up of the thread are you aware that the women are not moral rather Pretense?
How they should be forming and faking for the intending in-laws and brothers so as to look like good ladies? That is pretense bro.
We have large Nigerian community in diaspora where you can get a lady in your class and taste.
May i ask you, why are the so called igbo taken abroad and probably became widow, divorced, separated ladies not so foolish to borrow such a good leaf from there male counterparts and come home to pick another man?
They will rather die single and lonely than to do that. They will rather remarry a rich oyinbo than to birth an eye at the struggling igbo males in nigeria.
Moreover, is it not interesting to know that Igbos ladies (And Nigerian Ladies in total) don't really know what is Love nor Practice it rather the highest bidder? Don't these ladies have their local boyfriends they have been deceiving? Telling sweet words like -
Don't worry, Nobody will ever take your place?
I promise to be the mother of your kids and will always be there for you come rain come sunshine? all just for them to go to the village and pick a better mate why leaving the gullible local bf in cold?
Is these not what ubunja, martinez39, pasophist and all redpill brothers, mgtow have all veen saying that women are gold diggers and men should stop wsting there resources on them?
It's well
Those who think village is the abode of good girls are fooling themselves. The girls there are pretending similar to the way the op described. Who is to say that that good girl a man has his eyes on is not pretending in the way similar to what op outlined? The fact that a thread like this exists shows that most of these girls are pretending. grin Little wonder many recount tales of their wives changing for the worse after marriage.
Foreign AffairsRe: President Donald Trump Impeachment Updates by Martinez39(m): 9:03pm On Dec 19, 2019
Devops:
I stopped engaging the fellow, when I saw he was dangerously ignorant like the typical brainwashed CNN libtards with nothing but hate for Trump. Some of them don't even know why they hate Trump. They just follow the lame stream media and badwagon effect.
That's why I refer to them as "Libtards", "Zombiecrats", and NPCs (Non-playable characters programed by CNN and the establishment to think and say "Trump is bad" no matter what). grin You should even read the reply he sent to me. What a dumb fellow. How can people speak about things they don't know sh!t about with immense confidence and conviction? grin

Here is his reply. What load of rubbish.
You are an idiot, haven't Trump been saying No collision in the Mueller report since?



You idiots find it convinent to refer to the Mueller report when you think of collision but you idiots cannot also see it said there was interference in favour of trump.
Foreign AffairsRe: President Donald Trump Impeachment Updates by Martinez39(m): 8:01pm On Dec 19, 2019
themonk:
Tell me which of these is wrong:

1) 7 of his associates are in jail
2) FBI and Mueller report confirmed there was Russian interference in the elections.
3) Preventing witnesses from testifying is obstruction of justice.
4) If the above is true Trump obstructed justice
5) Trumps former lawyer is in Jail and has agreed to testify against him.
Mueller's report? Seriously? grin grin grin You are pathetically ignorant. I wonder why Devops is wasting his time with you. The Democrats have nothing on Trump. If I ask you to tell me, with evidence, one law Trump has broken, you can't. The Democrats have no shame and are wasting their time.

Get off CNN and MSNBC and stop being a one of their sheeples. grin SMH
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump Impeachment Doesn't Mean Removal From Office by Martinez39(m): 11:49am On Dec 19, 2019
ericsmith:
I think "hope" is an understatement or inappropriate word for a race that already had almost everything if not all compared to the black race, what you & i shuld worry about is our hope, instead of celebrating a white man whose plans, does not include you why not lend your voice to a course that can make ur race great or beta tew.
The reason I used "hope" was because the great societies of the whites are on the verge of collapse. In Europe, liberalism and globalism have already taken a strong hold. America should have followed but Trump and The Republican Party are in the way. The left are earnestly looking forward to bringing socialism, open borders, full blown feminism, and suppression of freedom of expression. Britain has hope given that the conservative party won by a landslide and had Brexit on the table but damages have been done.

America as always been ruled by republicans and the last time a democrat ruled which was obama we didnt see america switch to socialism,so you don't av a point, most of the things you are saying are just what you think, obama took over america @ the point of recession n he successfully brought america out of recession, was it not a republican(bush)that plunged dem to recession. Do you even knw trumph as violated more human rights than all US democrat ex presidents combined.
Trump has never violated any right. SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE TO PROVE ME WRONG. In my post, I said "present day democrats". Their aim is to bring America to it's knees and destroy it.

with all that is going on in the world today, with the gap between the white & the black, and strategic position held by the white how can the whites ever become minority ... by nature the whites has more population & continents than the black, so boss what xactly are yu even spewing.
Haba. You are clearly not following politics and the effects of open border policy. grin Use Google to read up on that.


America according to founding fathers is a nation for all , a free land for all displaced to settle, the natives of america are not even whites .... buh can trumph as a chauvinist see the bigger picture. before you justify the boarder closure & deportation melted out to immigrants, research how america was founded
America is not a country for illegal immigrants. The Founding fathers would never support open border. Immigration must be legal and controlled. When border is opened and immigration is uncontrolled, anyone, even criminals, terrorists and rapists, can enter undetected and that is a security risk. The mass influx of illegal immigrant means cheaper labour because immigrants, who came in with nothing, are willing to do jobs for lower pay and this would affect the working class as wages would go down (why would business owners employ Americans when they can go for cheap labour?).

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