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wetdick:
pls stop writing nonsense sown, where are people tax twice in Nigeria. do you work, have ever pay real tax before i am not talking about vat

every sensible people in the world go to countries they can afford for holidays.

Exactly. You go to these countries due to condition, not really by choice. Levels get levels. Back to the tax situation, when you pay for a service twice, you're getting double taxed. When you pay taxes and its suppose to fund your education, healthcare, roads/infrastructure system,etc, yet it doesn't, and you now have to pay out of pocket for these same services you've already paid taxes for, you're being double taxed. period !

When you need healthcare, do you go to your tax funded public hospital ? No. You go to a private hospital, essentially pay twice for healthcare.

When you need to educate your kids, do you go to your tax funded schools ? No. You go to a private school, essentially pay twice for education.

Why do you pay neppa bill yet get no light ? Then you now have to buy gen and fuel it up. Aren't you paying twice for electricity ?

My brotha I can go on. People in Nigeria are constantly getting double taxed and paying twice for almost every essential services. But for some reason they're too stupid to realize it.

wetdick:
if you do travel, you will be posting it here.

In Nigeria even women selling in balogun market go to dubai for holidays.

you see the standard of living is cheap here no excess tax, even couples are getting clever and not borning more than 2 kids

we pay rent yearly, so with 500k, i can rent a 2-3 bedroom flat in a good area in the mainland.

my kids can go to good schools and we can even go out on weekends, if i save well we can go for holidays in cheaper countries in africa

you can call Nigeria whatever names you like the fact remains that you cant build a country, if you were so smart instead of complaining you would have build your village instead of running out of Nigeria to an already built country.

Nigeria is not a paradise but people are still making it here even some of your brothers and sisters return home to get recognition because they couldnt get it there

why you are busy abusing nigeria , people that understand nigeria are busy investing, building a country and making money.

People in Nigeria get taxed twice for almost everything, with the cost of living going up, while the quality of life decreases. You go for holidays to cheaper African countries because you can't get visa to a decent country overseas, nor can the naira even compete if you do get a visa for abroad. Its good to be positive but lets stop insulting ourselves here.

Folafikemi:
Am sorry to drop this here but I believe so far the landing senior will prove me right or wrong.

Was on a thread where someone is considering leaving naija for Canada on a 7M annual salary job and a lot of opinions ensue but I dropped mine here. Pls tell me if this PR journey is not worth it



This is the more reason I have embarked on the PR journey and so far am closer to Canada than Nigeria even though am still in naija but am existing in utopia, a more perfect Canadian world.

I can't imagine having to live and serve a country like naija and still need to beg for help on social media at my old age.

Imagine parents spending there last on there children only to want to look up to them when they graduate hoping that they will get a good job but the children have to face evil reality of joblessness in naija eventually been frustrated not been able to cater for themselves let alone the parents. eventually the parent will be more poorer than they anticipated.

A country where I won't have to worry about school fee for my children for the first 14 years of their lives is worth trying.

Talking about tax, when you pay ur tax for certain facilities and amenities and u are really enjoying it I see no need to complain. U pay Nepa bill here in naija and also run generator simultaneously, u are doing yourself thinking u dey form big boy all because u collect 7M per annum. The stress of having to pull, polluting the air with toxic fumes from the general or kick start and some will even invest heavily on solar and inverter out of the 7M o just because u wanna cave a niche for yourself....�

In Canada u work and get paid as at when due/per hour if u wanna hustle and ur work hour tallies with ur pay. No salary delay, no outrageous security challenge, like robbery and kidnapping cos u struggle to buy Tokunbo Benz and people think u have arrived in naija, no rushing at bus terminal like we have in Oshodi when the conductor have to open his smelly armpit over your head to collect fair.

Even, just and exposed society and people where nobody cares whether u trek with ur God given legs or u cruise on a 2019Range Rover sport.

I will like to take my chances going to Canada and am so dead sure I won't regret it. Will come back here to share my Landing gist soon and my progress in Canada. Can't imagine my child going through the same suffering I went thro in naija where u only get job by having to know people and not considering u base on your level of competence and experience.

Been working in Naija since I left university and no employer is even interested in the fact that I have a 2-1, all they ask of is who refers u here, are u computer literate as if everybody should study computer science.... Abegi

It all depends what you value in life. Personally I don't value money so Canada fits me better. Seems we value the same thing.

iaatmguy:
raise a LOE and state the truth, do not hold anything back. people have been misrepresented by agents and even told a lie or two, intentionally (which is bad) before now and have gotten PPR. they told the truth. yours will not be an exception

edited: junypapa, am sorry if it appeared i was shading you, i wasn't. just state what the agent did. your application would be fine.


maternal
no pun intended, just stating the obvious. whatever it is that is eating you up, i hope it goes away quickly. it is either you throw salvos to get attention or that's just your person, either way it's too bad. YOU NEED TO CHANGE. the thread as been peaceful in your absence
You don't strike me as a blunt person, you are just plain RUD.E and i.ll mannered
learn to treat people with LOVE and RESPECT (which many folks on this wonderful thread do) irrespective of their wrong doings, abstain from being judgmental and confrontational.

I say my opinion then leave. Why do people who don't like me or my style continue responding to me ? A lot of people annoy me, but I leave and ignore them. I pick and choose who and what I respond too. Some people here are wolves in sheep clothing. This isn't a little white lie or a mistake. This man is a legit 419 guy. After using fraudulent ways to secure a visa through "an agent", he's now in hot pepper and is coming here for legit valid opinion ? Does he want honest law abiding people to help him figure out how to continue cheating the system ? Let him go confine with his "agent". People leave naija because of people like him. 419 cheats, who's always looking for ways to achieve things through illegitimate means or through the back door. A guy like this will definitely erode the system if he comes here. I doubt Canada lets this con-artist in. my 2 kobo.

On a side note. Why was my response deleted ? Which kind democracy is this on this board ?

junypapa:
I have question about misrepresentation that i need to ask.

I applied for a US visa a while back and i got the visa with the help of an agent, he filled my form with a bogus present place of work and i agreed to it.

I got ita in the last draw but i'm scared to submit my application because i didn't intend to use the bogus place of work.

My question is, has anyone got PPR while submitting two different information on both applications?

I'm confuse and don't know what to do.

please house, advise.

Thanks

Go ask the agent who helped u with your 419 application. He's suddenly not good enough to advise you? You already know the answer to your question deep down.

Walegy:
Oga, na by force, people choose to give landing gist here and they love it.... Maternal that even created the thread self is not complaining.
If u are not OK with it, simple ignore.... Nobody will know. I just tire.

haba, O gini. Biko hapu my name...

claremont:
You haven't factored in tax and living costs in this your calculations. The people who earn this minimum wage barely eke out a miserable existence whilst on it. By all means, go to Canada and find out yourself.

Their quality of life is still better than the majority of Nigerians in Nigeria.

joo2018:
Read it and lots of the comments from the CPC/PPC guys on the thread.

Execution is key. If they can get it right, it is a great idea.

Honestly I don't think it'll work. People leave small towns due to lack of opportunities and resources. Fix those issues first I feel. People will use this as a gateway to enter which i don't blame them.

Don't know if this is the right thread for it, but the federal government is trying a new immigration pilot project to help gets immigrants into rural communities. Perhaps this may be good for people who can't get or afford the skilled worker route ? A nice read.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hussen-immigration-rural-pilot-1.4990875

Lastruct:
Hello landed seniors! I have decided to carry myself enter here officially while waiting for COPR. My PPR story has been shared on the sister thread. Una Weldone here oh.

Please I need help from our experienced seniors here. I am a construction project manager with civil engineering background and about ten years experience in the construction industry. Before now, I have been doing some research on the best province for me to land with my Nurse Spouse. Came up with Vancouver BC and Calgary, Alberta as preferred places. But decided to chose Calgary because I read from some sites that Vancouver and BC is generally expensive and tough to survive.
I was chatting with a friend who currently lives in Ottawa Ontario yesterday and he was kinda discouraging me from going to Calgary but rather come join him in Ottawa. He mentioned reasons like fluctuation in oil whic I turn affect the entire Alberta economy, scanty communities which prevents one from mixing up, inability to easily get support from people as most calgarians are ‘mind ur business kinda people’ and all that. The truth is that apart from the fact that I personally don’t like to live in a place that is too busy like Lagos, I also don’t seem to believe there are construction opportunities from what I have seen so far in Ottawa as compared to Calgary, I may be wrong oh. But then, experienced people should please help me.

So I have brought this here for my ogas to help me chuck mouth and advice me oh before I go jogodo for Cannyland.

All what my friend was telling me was that I can easily get casual jobs almost immediately as I land and start looking for better job once I get settled.

Your suggestions and advise would be very appreciated.
@salford, @maternal, @joo2018, @einsteino and all the Oga patapatas, Biko make una helep me oh

Yes forget Vancouver. It's extremely expensive. I feel Alberta gets a bad wrap. Every province has a bread and butter economy. Oil is Alberta's bread and butter as it should be, but there's other types of industry there as well. Construction is usually on going in Canada. With population increase you'll constantly have new projects then of course you have maintenance as well. I'm not too educated about the construction industry as a whole, but there's always projects going on. As for your spouse nurse, she'll be fine wherever she goes once she's qualified. I'm curious to know how your friend came with the conclusion nobody helps each other in Calgary. I know a lot of good people from Calgary. I'd personally go to Calgary over Ottawa. And if things don't work out, grab your load and move to Ottawa.

kashamadupe0906:
Hello Canadians, please I need clarification on this.

If a newly immigrant decided to take Student Loan to proceed for bridging program while at the same time, opt for survival/blue collar job while off school, will the interest rate skyrocket because of this? as someone told me that if u collect Student Loan, u must not work or else, when you are to pay loan back, the interest rate will be very high, and won't worth taking at all.

thanks in advance

Interest is only charged after you graduate or you're not going back to school. You usually have a grace period of 6 months after you're done school to start paying it back. Each province can be different. Even as you start paying it back you can claim some reduction on your taxes and get some of the interest you paid towards the loan. Student loan is by far the best loan one can get to go to school.

vululadilolo:
I hardly post here ( but long time silent reader) but wanted to reply to this.

Well do you realise there are different types /causes of disabilities and some indeed come with a lot of medication?

Anyway we should learn to live and let live. Specially in this case where he still offers some advices.Pick what you need and move on.To me it's even a part of life/living in Canada or somewhere else.

On a forum like this, to me ( at least), the question should be can I learn something from this post? If not just move on... If I don't like it, does not mean someone else can't benefit from it.

You even had this persons time ? The ignorance here is appalling. He talks about discrimination against disabled people, yet he uses his uncle as an example and lumps all people with disabilities in his uncles category. Then he claims disabled people don't need such medical treatment that it's all environment. As if people with autism don't need therapy, people suffering from schizophrenia don't need prescription drug, etc. Each disability is different and has it's own challenges. Till today I'm the only one which has given the poster a comprehensive answer regarding his daughters medical situation. Even if it's just access to certain services, each city and province are still different and still requires research.

Snappyfingaz:
This individual is highly ignorant.

Thank you for adding such substance to this discussion.

gabbyghandour:
Am a silent reader of this forum but this guy need to be caution, disable person are not sick people because from your reply to this man you trying to raise the issue of medical care and the man talking about Environmental facilities for his daughter to make life comfortable which is absent in his home country, quoting from his last message below.

*Sometime last year , my wife came up with the idea of going to Canada ,the first thing that come to mind is how disable people are well accepted in Canada society ,they can school , go on bus and many public places have facilities for disable people, hearing that alone bring relieve and joy to my heart*

I have a disable uncle and never claim any benefit and have no complicated medical issue over the years ,he live is life just like me and you with his family ,and he is a great man so your reply is an insult on disable people, and people who lobby for years to End to discriminatory immigration law for people with disabilities and the Liberal government major changes to Canada’s immigration policy that will make it far easier for persons with disabilities and their family members to immigrate to Canada. since last year ,you need to cover your face in shame !

And careful assessing your previous posting ,i suspect you belong to an anti-immigrant group who come online pretending to give advice but Stylishly showing negative altitude and Condemnation toward immigrant...you deserve to be ignore !

Changing it on paper and actually doing it are 2 different things. You know that. In terms of disability, someone with autism for example needs more than facilities. They may also need therapy for example. Unless he says the exact disability, nobody knows. We're both ignorant of the treatment she'd need.

denaven:
Am going to reply for the sake of others that needed help and come online to share part of their story so they not discourage by comment like urs

My daughter is physically challenged from birth but i will not like to go into details of her disability but sometime last year , my wife came up with the idea of going to Canada ,the first thing that come to mind is how disable people are well accepted in Canada society ,they can school , go on bus and many public places have facilities for disable people, hearing that alone bring relieve and joy to my heart because we have visit France, Dubai,Holland,hong kong ,uk and usa on family holiday and I have seen how disable people are well integrated into this societies despite there physical challenges..and i remember my wife telling me then that she will handle everything and only we have to travel with about 27,000 dollars and i remember i told her ,we have 10 million naira fixed deposit at the bank so i can get that within 2 weeks and i convert it to dollars and that about 34k canada dollars so tell them if they want 27k if they grant us resident we coming with minimum 30k dollars and my wife simile and left for work that morning , and like 2 weeks later she told me about English examination she need to attend and it not compulsory for me because she the main applicant with about 5 years of experience and two cert holder from same university and about our certificate verification it was fast and easy I guess because we studied aboard but i never attended any English examination and later she told me we have been accepted on a score I cannot remember the score and now needed to do medical examination and we went for the medical test and a month later she ask I printed my fixed deposit bank statement,company registration and she draft a letter and I read it and sign that the fund is for the family and that all l know about this Canada process and two month later she told me some more document was ask about my daughter issue and she has taken care of that and send the needed document and One morning last month that about 5 month later ,she told me our Residency have been granted ,I was so surprise because it look so easy and fast to me but our daughter comfort and integration in a society is my motivation factor from the beginning . It was after the visa granted that other thought begin to come to my mind. So please do not judge anybody because you do not know the whole story but give your advice based on what you know and it will help . and thank you to everybody that have contributed to my question it highly appreciated

I guess I can answer everyone's reply here.

Well now you've added more meat to the story, it's starting to make more sense. It seems like the whole process took anywhere from 6-8 months ? Would that be fair to say ? The first lesson you have learned is that Canada is not a banana republic and the government is very efficient. More so than Nigeria's any way. Your wife followed the rules and eventually got residency for the family. I guess you thought this wouldn't happen ? Or the Canadian govt won't do as they say, or they're not efficient ? Lesson learned I assume ? I still don't understand how a business man didn't start planning, especially as the processing was coming along smoothly, until you got the visa. But nobody is perfect. Now I also got a daughter with a disability from birth. See we have something in common. While you may get more help letting people know the exact issue, you have a right to your privacy. But with a child with a disability, and coming to Canada for that sole reason, you should start researching what city or province can provide your child with the best medical care. Because Canada has universal healthcare doesn't mean all services are equal. Wait times also differ as well. So for example Ontario you need to wait 3 months after landing to access healthcare. If your daughter needs healthcare right away, perhaps Ontario is not for you ? Or Ontario offers free prescription drugs for individuals 24 years and younger. If your daughters disability requires her to need a lot of expensive prescription drugs, maybe Ontario is the right province for you ?

You and your wife need to sit down and research which province best fits your daughters situation. Once that is done and you settle on a province/ city, then I would start doing research on the economics of that region. What jobs are booming there ? Is it possible to continue my business while in that province ? etc. Remember even school services are not the same. Some schools may have more experience dealing with a child with X disability than others. And each provinces wait times differ. In fact even wait times for cities within a province differ. For example if you live in Toronto and need to see a specialists, it'll definitely take longer to see one than if you lived in a smaller city like Ottawa for example. Unlike a lot of the big mouths here, I'm talking from experience. I am walking in your shoes. I've actually learned from you because the Canadian gov't use to reject applicants who had a disabled child. There was a national out-cry and the PM along with his immigration minister said they would change that. So for your application to go through with quickness and ease, it seems like the gov't kept their word. See what happens when we share info ? So what have we learned interacting with "big bad maternal" ?

1. The Canadian gov't welcomes families even with a disabled child.

2. Application can go quickly and smoothly if you let the wife do it. I mean if you're organized and have your stuff together.

3. If your sole reason is to come with a disabled child and you get your papers, start researching with province/city would best help your child before anything else.

Believe me, there's someone in naija in your former situation (wanting to come here because someone has a disability) who is reading this and learning a lot. They may even privately DM you. I have brought more substance to this convo than these internet saints giving their "best wishes" a long with "hugs" and foolish hashtags. Primary school nonsense. This man is nervous, scared, and needs legit help to reduce his anxiety, not hugs and hashtags ewu's. Contribute real substance to this conversation or simply skip over it and be quiet. Why are my posts always an issue on this thread ? Why can't I speak my mind ?

denaven:
Oga,Be polite and simple with your comment, this a faceless public forum and no need use insultive words.you do not know me,just give simple advice or walk away..be mature ma/sir

Bros no vex. But to address everyone who claims I'm insulting. The application process to get PR is not easy. You can't tell me, especially as a business man, you and your wife did not sit down and discuss the move across the Atlantic ocean. You're making it seem like you randomly applied today, then got it the next day. Then to say "i have decided to go with them and settle down in Canada for the sake of my children". That's pure BS. If business was booming like that, you'd do a soft landing then be flying back and forth in the meantime. Also that statement sets up your children to be blamed for any mishaps that may occur when in Canada. Such as: "see junior, I'm in this position because I came here because of you". Leave the children out of this.

But back to the matter. All you had to say was me and my wife planned this migration and I am extremely nervous leaving all I know for a new country. Can anyone help me with business or employment ideas as the day is reaching, and my nerves are getting the best of me. Is that so hard ? The rest is unnecessary. It's ok for a man to admit their scared. I believe people have answered your question. Find out what interests you, then research how to achieve it.

denaven:
Please i need you advice,My wife got PPR last month ,we are a family with 3 children but my main worry now is what to do in canada, My wife is a medical doctor but am a private business man but am also a graduate , l have never worked with my bsc engeering certificate and i have little or no working experience on that line .....i do not like the idea of staying back in nigeria while my family goes to canada and l will be visiting sometime,am 37years and l believe in family staying together ..i have decided to go with them and settle down in canada for the sake of my children,i will hand over my business to my brother and my tenant send the annual rent to my accout but what can l do in canada,i know l cannot run my business in or from canada..i just have to face reality on ground and start looking for job but what type of job can l seek as a new arrival with no specific job skill in canada and graduatelly progress ..please l need advice from people on ground on what l can do.

Everyone claims they're a hustler until it's time to hustle.

1. You benefit from this move as much as your children

2. Find out what interests you then map out a plan on how to achieve it in Canada. Right now your braining is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.

EVILFOREST:
U think say OYIBO na BLACK MAN...??
Adequate Preparations have been made before considering such mass relocation of people.
Just Buy into the Idea that’s all.

If not that I have found myself in the US, I would have opted for Canada sharp sharp.
My Brother OYIBO and Black share nothing in common

Africans make me laugh. Well said.

topacs:
Please i need a very honest advice, Is a salary of close to 320K per month worth sacrifing for a conadian PR, What is the prospect of IT certification CCNA, CCNP, ITIL and MCSA with experience in canada, Lastly i intend to come alone if i finally decides to pursue the PR because of the CRS score and later work a way for my lovely wife and daughter to come join me, please i need you to be very real, insultive if you wish but with ur canadian experience advise me appropriately. Thanks.

Are you comparing 320k naira per month to Canadian citizenship ? Really think about what I just asked you. Furthermore, 320k naira per month is poverty once all your essential expenses are paid in naija.

SixSigma1:
@Godbpraised:

I don't know where to start from in my reply to this your write-up. Your write-up contains information that is purely your own opinion which I respect and will not be commenting on. On the other hand, I will be commenting on the information (the part in bold above) in your write-up that just is just plainly wrong.

To start with, what you wrote up there about people not being able to make a meager $150K (yes, meager $150K, I repeat) unless you are a CIO or senior executives is an irony. It is irony because you were the same person that wrote on the other thread complaining that Nigerians are negative people because when you came to Canada, Nigerians you met in Canada were telling you that you can can not get a professional job. That the job you will get is support worker and that no Nigerian spoke positively to your life.

Link to your write-up on the other thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3617393/living-canada-life-canadian-immigrant/503#74341506
My comments to you on the other thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3617393/living-canada-life-canadian-immigrant/504#74342262

How is your statement about not being possible to make meager $150K unless you are a CIO or senior executives any different from the statement of people not speaking positively to your life? Please reflect on this.

Take this from me when I tell you that it is not only very possible but it is also very common to make $150K and more even as an individual contributor talk less of being in management roles (entry level, mid level or senior level). A lot of people I know are making this much and more in individual contributor roles. Just like I said on the other thread you just have to mingle with the right people to know and experience what I am talking about.

To give you more insight, read my second post here on Nairaland about Six Sigma Black Belt career and how much people in that career make. This was back in 2006. So, figure out what the salary will look like now in 2019 (12 to 13 years after that post).

The post is available here: https://www.nairaland.com/10173/six-sigma-black-belt-career#279221

When you now consider many people are IT professionals, Professional Engineers, Doctors, Pharmacist, Finance people etc working in wide rage of industries such as automotive, investment baking, technology, IT, oil & gas etc making such amount as individual contributors you will understand what I am talking about.

I do agree and understand that a lot of people in the professions mentioned above are also not making that much but this fact does not negate the fact that many people are making such money and more as individual contributors.

Now regarding 50% taxation in Canada, it is obvious you do not know how the tax system works in Canada. Canada tax system is graduated whereby you pay different percentage tax rate on different portion of your salary. This is different from a flat tax rate whereby you pay the same percentage tax rate on all of your salary. I will encourage you educate yourself about Canadian tax system.

You can also follow the link below to get an idea of the percentage of your income you pay in tax depending on the province you live in:

https://www.taxtips.ca/marginaltaxrates.htm

You can also use the calculator below to give you an idea the amount of tax a person making $150K will pay depending on their province of residence:

https://simpletax.ca/calculator

As an example, if that person lives in Alberta, s/he will pay $29,007 in federal tax and $13,201 in provincial tax. This is a total of $42,208 (or just 28.14%). If we factor in CPP and IE Premiums (which are really not taxes), the person will pay a total of $45,660 or just 30.44%.



@Beautyaddy:

You are very correct. In fact, just like I already mentioned above you do not even need to be a Physician to make $100K and more. Even nurses (including Nigerian Nurses) make that much ($100K) and more.

Don't know why you bothered. People like GodbPraised who spend all their time and money to migrate, then try to discourage people are enemy of progress. Canada is good for the kids yet why is he here ? A man doing well in naija will not leave simple. The "I did it for the kids" is the excuse people who can't make it in naija say when they migrate abroad. People in Canada are indebt and pay taxes. At least they have jobs. People in naija do all that minus having a job. People who stay abroad while complaining, bashing the place, etc are mentally unstable. How can you not like something but continue doing it ? Is it not madness ?

bily:
Because its not uncommon for people in the same job description in the same company to be earning different pay. Like the popular saying goes 'what you don't know, can't hurt you'

Imagine if you have been with a company for over a year, and during the course of mentoring new intakes in the same position, you discover they are earning $20/hr and you are being paid $17/hr. As a human being, even though deep down you know they may have better qualifications, you will still feel bad cos you have the on the job experience, which is why you are mentoring them to begin with.

I know a company that uses a form of calculation to determine your pay structure based on where you schooled and your previous work experiences. so every hire for the same position end up earning different salary based on the result of the calculation.

Well said. I made this exact mistake. Disclosed my salary and a week later I was sacked. At the time I was oblivious to this issue and how disclosing ones salary can affect you in a negative way. Man I don suffa for this Canada.

toboy:
Thank you Maternal. From your knowledge what other factors do you think such person could consider? Any opinion is appreciated. Especially from a senior member like you.

I'm confused. What's your objective here ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

toboy:
A new year! new beginnings! May it be filled with success and renewed fortune for everyone. Moderators, big Tuale!!! You guys really did a fantastic job in terms of both the timing this new thread and a way of burying the old debates.

Question: Please, has anyone come across or has insights to share about a situation where a Nigerian Canadian graduate goes back to Nigeria for NYSC. The reason is to enable this person fulfill the requirements of being eligible to take jobs in Nigeria even after becoming a Canadian citizen.

Seems like you've answered your own question.

KINGTELLER:
I am in the country and filling my tax but my spouse and dependant are not (though they did soft landing) due to urgent assignment she needs to complete back home.

The child must live with you. This is all online on the govt web site.

KINGTELLER:
Sorry, can you please clarify what you mean by "No you can't"

Don't know how else to say it. You're suppose to be in the country. If you leave the country you should contact CRA or whichever govt agency pays you to stop the payments.

[quote author=KINGTELLER post=74347477][/quote]No you can't

Utimiracle:
Good morning my good people. I just discovered this thread after my interview for two times.
I had b1 visa to USA, so I spent 5 months and came back to nigeria now am going for f1 interview and I was denied.

The question the vo asked me that I was to spend two weeks as I said before but I later spent 5 months .
What did I do in usa for 5 months? I told him that I visited my Bishop and. ........ vo cut in sorry ....normal.

Pls my brothers I am new here I need an idea pls house help.

You actually came back to Nigeria? lol

@Godbpraised

My mom always use to say before giving me a beating, "before you I was". I use to always think I'd be able to trick her but she'd catch me. Because she use to do it herself as a youth. My friend I've been around the biggest fraudsters Canada has ever seen. There's a huge and vibrant naija 419 community in Toronto. They ALL inevitably get caught. They think they're original with their crimes but aren't. The police have seen it all. And this is first hand experience from family members who have been jailed in Canada. I also know many police officers both federally and municipal. The feds allow you to commit your crime while they watch you. Sometimes even for years. When they catch you and present you with significant evidence (They have to build their case), that's when your eyes will shine.

Those Indians and Asians get caught all the time. Every fraud especially on a large scale inevitably gets caught. You know why ? Because of greed. Once most people cheat the system they simply get greedy and can't stop. That's when they come into police radar. Law and order is what makes this country go around. Same with other countries like the U.K., U.S., etc. Trillions and federal government resources are spent each year on it. Without no law/order and it being taken seriously, a country is essentially like Nigeria. It'll be hard for one average guy to beat the same. See how many people in the Trump administration getting arrested. See how many corrupted police officers are arrested and charged in Canada each year. And these are the people who work on the inside and have the ability to hide their fraud. Yet justice is still being served. If trumps admin can't get away from prosecution, you expect me to believe an average man will ? Maybe stealing a chocolate bar fine. You can get away with that one. But big time fraud ? Bros your days will be numbered. I've seen people like yourself say such a thing. Years later after the police breaks down their door and arrest them they understand the game.

Boss13:
You’re probably thinking too highly of white Canadians. You’d be shocked when they freely express themselves. They are not afraid of offending black people, they are afraid of what the system would do to them.

That's his point. Like I'm not afraid to steal. I'm afraid of what the system would do to me. Therefore I don't steal.

toboy:
Black people been punching since time immemorial and last time I checked, Black folks has the highest number of incarceration in US for instance. If we gonna win a war against racism. it wont be by throwing punches at ignorant white people. We need an investment into a calculated steps and strategy than can enable black folks break the system that feeds racists.

Honestly I think your story is BS. That could even be considered an hate crime if a white person said that in public. I'm calling this a lie the more I think about it. Such foul language is literally a crime especially against minorities.