iPopAlomo:
The question we should be asking really is how did someone like "maternal" get into Canada...

Very uncultured individual...

DM me. I'll give you free advice.

CanadianNaija:


Ok. According to you, somethings are justifiable as long as it’s done in line with self preservation.

I hope you don’t criticize the current state of our country of origin sha? Yahoo boys, politicians, kidnappers, corrupt officials, etc...from their perspective all na self preservation.

I’m a sinner o, but I will not come out in public and justify sin because I know that a sin is a sin. We are all adults that know right from wrong, let’s not pretend that we don’t.

The concept is not too hard to understand. Eating is sort of human nature.

salford1:

I edited my original post. It was actually a shock to me as I never witnessed such in the German company I worked for in naija and the companies I worked for in the UK. I always thought nepotism was a Nigerian thing till I got to North America.

They might have not been the best interviewed or most qualified candidates for the job, but once they have the minimal qualifications, they are in. I do not blame them sha. These jobs are well paying. I would do same too if I were in their shoes aslong as it is legal.

The ones I've met don't even meet the minimum qualifications sometimes. I'm glad you said you'd do the same as long as it's legal. Claiming refugee in Canada and getting your story heard is not a crime. Even if you're suspected of making up the story. The hypocrisy towards these people is comical. What's even more funny, is that these perfect saints in Canada bashing these refugees, they act like since arriving in Canada they've never gave a friend a resume, and said "bros, abeg help me hand my resume to your hiring manager. Make sure you give a good word about me". Isn't that gaming the system ? Either way the subject tire me.

Bawss1:


I have to ask: how do you come to the realization that people who side step the official and laid down regulations for residing in Canada permanently are not gaming the system?

There are loopholes in the immigration system, anybody who exploits said loopholes by cooking up untrue stories of fleeing from persecution is doing the wrong thing. Anyhow you try to dice it this is a bad thing and it should not be condoned or glossed over.

Whether you realize it or not your comment is a lame attempt at justifying a bad thing. No doubt it will appeal to all the bleeding hearts who are not forthright in their ways – or at least not forthright when it comes to the project of relocating to a new country. A personal project, by the way, which should represent the opportunity to ‘restart’ life on a clean, fresh, slate.

Also, what pains have these people who you make excuses for endured that other Nigerians who have decided to go through the legitimate process of relocation not endured? Do the people who take the trouble to write language exams, raise the funds or meet the other stipulations as required by the immigration process live in an alternate Nigeria where there are no struggles, pains or hardships?

This

I'm not a thief, but I'd never judge a poor man who has to steal to survive

It never fails to amaze me how quickly the tunes change after we get robbed by said thief

1. Nobody is condoning anything. Is there loopholes in the system, would people exploit it ? Of course. But I can't say most Nigerian refugee claimant are not legit. Simply put, I don't know all of them. You know the perception that most successful Nigerians are doing 419. Such perception are not fair to say.

2. My comments appeal to honest human beings, who know whether one wants to admit it or not, gaming the system is human nature. The hypocritical saints on these board bashing some refugees for gaming the system, I guarantee if you look in their past, you'd find how they have gamed the system at least once in their life. If people don't usually game the system, then why do we need police as a society ? The FBI just caught wealthy Hollywood actors paying million in bribes to have their kids admitted into Ivy League schools in the states. Isn't that gaming the system ? Haven't you ever went to a job, even in Canada, and the head manager is the uncle of the supervisor. And the supervisor is the cousin to your fellow co-worker. Do you think this is a coincidence ? Everyone will do whats in their best interests, full stop !

3. alternate Nigeria where there are no struggles, pains or hardships?

Yes !! Everyone's situation in naija is different. Do you know how many people I know are qualified for the EE, but can't afford to the application fee process, exam, necessary money needed to have in one's account to migrate, etc. You think migrating is cheap ? Only a few selective people can afford it. You think everyone works for Shell, or their papa was a gov't official who was able to steal money ? Not saying their aren't some legit Nigerians who can afford the immigration process. But if one can't go through the front door, they'll try the back. Again that's human nature. It's called survival instinct. Wasn't Canada built from gaming the system sef

4. It never fails to amaze me how quickly the tunes change after we get robbed by said thief

If naija I'd kill the thief. If Canada I'd call police. The same way he has to do what he has to do, I have too as well. I wouldn't judge them though. Just like how the police doesn't judge the criminal, and vice versa. It's nothing personal.

A short story as this topic reminds me of a distant (not 1st) cousin. Her father was a big thief. I won't say which ministry he worked in during the late 90's but he stole millions in dollars USD. They went to the best schools abroad. She did her masters in the U.K. Came-back to naija, got an amazing job making big money. From the day she was born, she never had to worry about money. She swore she'd never living abroad, and use to laugh at people who were abroad legally and doing minimal jobs. Or people who were illegal trying to game the system. Flash forward to 3 years ago. She's been cut off from her wealthy father as he's spending his money on his retirement. She lost her job, spent over a year without a job and her savings were depleted. If you see how fast she went to apply for the EE you'd laugh. She was denied as her age doesn't favor her (she's 40), and is now trying to game the system in every way. She went from laughing at certain people, to being those people. My point ? Lets please stop the hypocrisy here.

canadaman18:


If i’m in the situation that most of those people crossing from the US were in i.e comfortable enough to successfully secure a US visa and pay the cost of flights from nigeria, I wouldn’t lie that i’m facing persecution in Nigeria for being gay or some other BS story .. Let’s not pretend a lot of them weren’t tryna take short cuts

A wealthy person has many ways of getting papers. They usually don't game the system. These people come in different ways. Maybe use their life-savings to try to cross into Canada from the U.S to try their luck. Some come for business, maybe they have a business conference, then cross, and so forth. It's easy to judge when you're a Nigerian-Canadian and you enjoy one of the best quality of life. If the roles were reverse, it'd be funny how many people change their perspective. Like they say, "Never mock a pain you haven't endured. Because when life hits you, you might become everything you ever criticized" I'm not a thief, but I'd never judge a poor man who has to steal to survive.

canadaman18:


My point is Nigerians were lying about their situation to make it seem like they met the threshold, when in fact their true situation back in Nigeria does not meet the threshold Canada has.

Lets not lie to ourselves and pretend we wouldn't do the same, if put in that situation. I can't ask someone to do something I wouldn't do.

SixSigma1:


@Refcan:

First, I sympathize with you on your condition and situation as nobody should have to live like that.

Secondly, thank you very much for this post. Your post is very mature, civil and professional. Rather than responding like a tout like I see some people do here, your post is different. It is the type of post that people should be posting here to share their view even when it differs from the view of other people. That is the beauty of our Canadian democracy and our Canadian value!

As the election is over, I do not want to dwell further on it but just want to move on. However, I need to make it clear again that the election was not all about immigration or amount of refugee being allowed in. In the grand scheme of things, Immigration is way low among the many concerns that many people have.

Now to some of the points that you raised, I have said it several times since this discussion started that I am not saying that refugee do not contribute all. What I am saying is that a lot of them do not. I am saying this because I know and not because of what some politicians are saying. You happen to be one of the few exemptions that are not here to game the system but are trying hard to contribute to the system. Good job for you on that.

Furthermore, my position is not that refugee should not be accepted[b] but the amount to be accepted should the at the level that the government have enough tax payer’s money to take care of. This will prevent the situation where you and other refugee are finding yourselves in the camp and outside of the camp like you explained.[/b]

My position is that If the government has enough money to bring in even 10 million refugees in a year without increasing taxes or borrowing money that runs into many billions of dollars to do so, by all means they can go ahead. If the government can not do so without additional debt or tax increase, then the government should only admit the amount of refugee it can adequately take care of without putting too much burden on the tax payer’s by unnecessary increasing taxes and putting us into debt that our future generations will not be able to pay back. This is what I am asking for and I don’t think it is too much to ask.

Finally, this is not to disrespect you (because you have actually earned my respect with your mature and professional response), I will no longer be commenting on this topic.

Your ignorance is appalling on the refugee subject. It's borderline spreading hate towards immigration.

1. Show credible evidence where most refugees in Canada do not contribute to the system when they're on their feet ? If you can on here, I'll leave this specific thread for good.

2. Canada doesn't have refugee camps. They have processing centers. It's an area where the RCMP and CBSA checks each individual for criminality and a health check to determine if they can let out to the general public. If they can they are given temp shelter until they can find a place. Refcan said he went to a local YMCA. Since when is that a camp ?

3. The government accepts refugees based on a carefully calculated budget. The Syrian refugee's accepted years ago are an example of that. Their arrival was well prepared for and calculated. Not saying all their transition has been smooth. What you're talking about is IRREGULAR refugees. That is refugees walking up to the Canadian border from the U.S without notice. NO government can anticipate that. None. Your leader Andrew S who claimed he'd stop "illegal migration" showed how stupid the Cons are and their voters. Once someone comes to Canada through the U.S in an unofficial port, Canada must hear their claim. Furthermore, Canada must process them as no sane government would allow a refugee into the general public without vetting them. In short, NO government would or could do anything different in terms of processing IRREGULAR refugee claims at the border, than what's already happening now. Canada signed the U.N refugee convention in 1969. Meaning regardless of which party is in power, Canada recognized that it has obligations towards refugees, that protecting refugees is not simply a humanitarian gesture, but a legal requirement by the Canadian government. The Supreme Court of Canada confirmed this in the landmark 1985 Singh decision, which found that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees refugee claimants’ basic rights. If you have issues with IRREGULAR refugees, try to get into the house of commons to change the law. Until Canada leaves the convention, what the state gives refugee is their right.

4. Spoke like a true Con supporter. "Putting us into debt", "our future generation". Now you be patriot. Where was this patriotism when you were trying to leave naija ? Why didn't you keep the same energy while in naija ? If the current Liberal gov't didn't spend money on extra federal police (rcmp) or extra border service officers, and allowed each IRREGULAR refugee to enter the country without being vetted, you'd be the first one shouting "the liberals are putting us in danger and being irresponsible by letting people just walk through the border". Public safety comes first, followed by the rule of law. ANY party would spend millions at the border if they had too. This is not a party issue. I suggest to learn the difference between refugees and IRREGULAR refugees, and stop spreading hate and fear towards the refugee community.

SixSigma1:


You find it difficult to follow simple request to discuss maturely and professionally without resorting to name calling. This is sad. Well, it is obvious that you are just an attention seeker and I am not going to give you the attention you badly crave for. I will also not stoop so low to your level. You can believe whatever you want to believe about me.

Quote me as many times as you want and also label me anything you want. I will no longer dignify you with a response because you simply do not deserve it.

I'm calling out your nonsense and you can't handle it.

canadaman18:


I think we have to be honest and admit that a lot(not saying all) Nigerians tried to game the system by crossing the border illegally from US and claiming asylum when their situation back in Nigeria really did not meet the threshold to be a refugee. IMO only people from war torn countries should really be claiming asylum particularly kids.

I don't think any immigrant should ever become anti-immigration but at the same time there is nothing wrong in calling for caution when accepting people in. Everyone who became a PR through EE , Student route or PNP or even refugee had to go through a lot of rigorous processes. I personally do not support any shortcuts and will not support any govt that allows shortcuts(not saying the current government is) as it makes those of us who followed process look stupid.

Every country has their threshold of what a refugee consists off. Furthermore, no developed country allows back-door immigration. Every immigrate has to go through certain processes.

@SixSigma,

Your post is filled with Dog Whistle. Then when people call you out, you get defensive. It's like Trump saying MAGA. Minorities living in the U.S. or the west knows he really means make America white again. People who live in Canada know where you stand and what you really mean. This has nothing to do with political parties. You're masking your hatred for certain type of immigrants with that. You have adopted the ideology of an anti-immigration Canadian. This view point is usually expressed by white canadians who like to blame everything on immigration. Most refugees don't contribute. The FACTS say otherwise. Most Nigerian refugees have false claims. How do you know that ? Are you there during their court dates ?

While you walking around all high and mighty because you finally got citizenship. Just remember immigration comes in different forms. Not everyone is qualified or has the money to come in through the EE. Besides, a refugee from Syria for example who comes here because THE WEST is bombing their country, doesn't have time to fill out an EE form when bombs are dropping on them. Never bash or judge someone who's trying to migrate to Canada, regardless of how they get here. Because ultimately they're coming over for the SAME reason you came over here. To improve their lives.

Refcan:
@sixsigma1

I am a refugee in Canada and based on my personal experience, I would disagree with some of your submissions.

I am saying personal experience because I cannot speak for other people. But to a large extent, the same applies for a lot of refugees as most of us are in the same shoes.

I will just give you a brief summary of my experience and I will let you judge with an open mind If we are having it better than those coming in through with express entry or if we are not contributing to Canada economically.

Came in around April 2018, spent 4 days in the processing centre which we call sandwich place cos we eat sandwich morning afternoon and night.

After processing, we were taken to YMCA who made which is a free shelter and you're not expected to spend more than a month before you get your own accommodation. By that time you should have been processed for welfare and your work permit.

So by May ending, we got $1200 for a family of 4. IE 2 adults and 2 children. So we had to leave the shelter to get our own accommodation. No work yet because work permit was not yet ready.

Got a $750 one room apartment and started work July.
Work was $12/hr
Immediately you start working, welfare checks stops, and any welfare check you collect after working, you will have to pay the government back... You can't escape that.
So in my case, only got welfare for 2 months.

As you start to work, you pay taxes like every other Canadian, but as a refugee claimant, you don't get benefits like everyone else.

You will be denied many things because you don't have a status yet.
No subsidized daycare, you pay full $35 to $40 per day as opposed to $8.25 fault for PR. Due to this wife could not work as my children were still very young

No access to any form of child benefits (maybe until after 18 months) , no gst

Most banks will even decline to issue you a credit card, you have to hunt for banks or sometimes different branches of the same bank so you can at least build your credit score

You mentioned free prescription... It's not all drugs that are covered, you still have to pay for most stuffs. Most cheap over the counter drugs like Advil, Tylenol etc are covered though. Dental is not covered if you're already working, except you are on welfare and I think it's after 1 year

Can't go to school, no access to grants
In Quebec PR are paid to learn French, refugee claimants are not paid.

Now I have a $20/hr job, which means I'm contributing more to the economy but still do not have access to many things.

As maternal said, I do believe the liberal government are not stupid and there are calculations behind the scenes
Ever wonder why mothers that cannot work because of their kids are usually processed first for hearing I think it's simply because they are currently not contributing to the economy, so they can easily get their verdict on time and be accepted or rejected.

This will be my 18th month now in Canada and we are still waiting for our hearing. Some that came after us have already been called.
Trust me, they know what they are doing.

Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining or whatsoever, I am just giving you real life facts and not the propaganda you hear all over the place.

I'm glad we have someone with first hand experience. I don't know why people think Canada is a banana republic. Everything done is greatly strategic, especially when it comes to immigration. It's sad when people fall for the lies from these politrickians who play with their emotions just for vote. It's even more sad when immigrants themselves start fallen for their nonsense and become anti-immigration after they get citizenship. You've paid more into the system than given out I'm sure. Refugees can't exploit the system. They simply don't have enough power or rights too.

Freeopod:


What will be the impact of this election on Alberta. Is there anything we need to know cos a whole lot of Nigerian immigrants are eyeing Alberta. Will there be wage cut, high taxes etc. What are the new things to put into cons
consideration especially for those who are landing next year.

You'll get different answers depending on who you ask.
But as a whole everyday life won't change. At least not overnight.

@SixSigma,

Thanks for your write up but I disagree. To counter some things you said.

Yes, conservative plans to reduce immigration level (fact), but what people are not saying (maybe they don’t know) is that for the most part they (conservative) are only trying to reduce the percentage of refugee category (people that mostly do not add to the economy but rather take away from it) which the liberal has increased drastically since taking over power while they the liberal have been reducing the percentage of economic/skilled worker immigrant (i.e. EE) which are the actual people that contribute to the economy.

Refugees add as much, if not more than anybody to the economy. This stigma/lie that has been going around for years, as been proven wrong many times. The Vietnam refugees in the 60's I believe, both U.S soldiers fleeing from the draft or actual Vietnam citizens have done well in Canada. The current Syrian refugees that came what 4 years ago are doing as good if not better than EE. Creating jobs and adding to the economy. These are facts, data kept by the federal government, which you can research and validate for yourself. Ironically refugees are so bad, that many municipalities were begging the federal government to settle them in their region. Why would they want individuals who wouldn't contribute to their economy come there ? Because refugees do contribute to the overall economy. A good amount of refugees are degree educated if you don't know. The Syrian refugees weren't illiterates from the streets. Lastly, any individual who touches Canadian soil and claims refugee, the federal government MUST hear their claims. This is according to the agreement sign by the Canadian government with the UN. How can any government reduce the refugee category ? Our government must hear a refugee claimant and be in partial. To reduce that category, you're basically saying you're going to reject claims ahead of time ?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/syrian-refugees-halifax-entrepreneurs-economy-1.3317089

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/refugees-pay-more-income-tax-than-millionaire-investor-immigrants-1.2984982


how many Nigerians are migrating to Canada as a refugee compared to the number that come through economic/skilled worker immigrant (EE)? I may be wrong, but my guess is that 95% come through EE and about 5% through refugee (my figure may be wrong, but I am very sure it is close). And by the way, we all know that almost all refugee claimants from Nigeria are not true refugee but rich people claiming to be refugee.

Are you God ? How do you know this without listening to their cases ? You already have a mis-conception about Nigerian refugee claimant. I can't believe an immigrant, a black African is this anti- immigration. Do you know how many oyibo people I've met who are against the EE and don't feel immigrants coming in with that program should be here; especially Nigerians ? In short do you know how many oyibo's hate you and the fact you're here ? And you're spreading the same hateful sentiment towards your fellow people trying to come here ? Lastly you are confusing refugees to irregular refugees. Go research the difference.


we stand to get more Nigerians into Canada under the conservative plan (because the focus is on more economic/skilled worker immigrant) as against the liberal plan which is in favour of more refugees.

Not true and the liberals have said and proved otherwise. You don't become a G7 nation with a high quality of life by only trying to recruit refugees. 99% of new Nigerians I've met are educated people who came under the EE. The other 1 percent are refugees, and even them are very educated and ready to work. Skilled workers cost the country nothing. Why wouldn't they favor them ?


Yes, liberal tend to create a lot of minimum wage jobs while professional job suffers. This is what has just happened since 2015 till now as well. While under conservative, a lot of both professional jobs and minimum wage jobs are always created. So, all this mention of job creation liberal is talking about are mainly minimum wage jobs with very little professional jobs being created

Another lie. There are many factors that go into job creation. Such as the value of the Canadian dollar, available talent pool, etc. But the first thing a country must have is the talent pool. This pro Liberal government who has focused on Skilled workers has made other companies take noticed. As a result companies are moving in to take advantage of the available talent. Add that to the fact if you invest in USD and operate in Canadian dollars you save money on operation costs. And with Trump closing off the borders, the smart liberal government has taken advantage. I mean if the liberal government was so bad for business, why would Uber invest 200 million dollars in Canada and set up shop in Toronto ? Why is Toronto the fastest growing city in North America, along with the fastest growing tech hub as well in North America ?

Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, an Iranian refugee, has been vocal about President Trump's immigration stance.

"The American Dream is the single most incredible brand in the world. Everyone knows what the American Dream means," he said at a business summit in New Delhi earlier this year. "I'm worried that with the attitudes that the administration has about immigration etc., that wonderful brand is getting ruined."

Meanwhile, the Canadian government has been expediting work permits and temporary resident visas as part of a two-year pilot to help innovative companies land highly skilled workers.

Ya the Liberals don't create or attract professional jobs with their backwards immigration policies. lol

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/13/technology/uber-canada-office/index.html

safex:


@bolded Just say a Canadian-Nigerian so you don't stir a tribal storm

Kiss my a$$. You pay my internet bill ?

Jbelieve:
When will election result be announced?

Within 24. 48 hours if close. Looks like it'll be close though.

Bawss1:
Hahaha


I will return later in the day to address the posts directed at my comments. The responses were just as I had suspected... Hopefully, all of this should make for some interesting discussions going forward.

Anyways

Have a great day, people!

I'm curious to see your response. All I ask is to back up your claims with facts, not feelings or emotions. I want to see how a Nigerian who came to Canada under the EE now wants the country to reduce immigration.

DexterousOne:



You know how Nigerians reason na
The typical mentality

Cross a bridge
Then seek to burn it.

After you don cross
You want them to cut immigration in half

Don't mind that man.

I had this discussion with a Yoruba guy who's been in Canada going on 10 years. He came through the EE, he's now a citizen and will be voting in his 2nd election. He
lives a good life and started a family. He refuses to vote liberals because according to him they're opening the border, letting a lot of immigrants in without vetting them. I honestly wanted to slap him. Canada is actually one of the hardest countries to get into. I feel this man likes the advantage he has over his family and friends in Nigeria. Very wicked man.

Bawss1:


That's a hot topic. Bernier and the PPC say that the current immigration levels are unsustainable and they want to cut it by half. I think that is a sentiment that a growing number of people hold quietly but if they voice it in today's hypersensitive environment they will be termed a racist or whatever.

I also believe the current level of immigration cannot continue forever without any negative consequences for the entire country. Immigration policies should be rooted primarily in the country's economic and societal interest. Anything outside of that should be treated with heavy caution in my opinion.

Right now we are told that immigration is a net good for the country; meaning there are some negatives but overall it is good. I cannot help but ask then if the numbers keep increasing exponentially at what point is the net gain neutralized? I also have many questions as to what informs the immigration policies the Liberals are following but that is a post for another day.

So far I think the Conservatives have the best plan when it comes to immigration.

I hope you're not a Nigerian who migrated to Canada through the EE, is now a citizen, and is talking like this. Cutting immigration is a growing sentiment by angry racists who blame immigration or immigrants on their problems. Canada simply cannot afford to reduce immigration level. Trust me, I've lived and worked all over this country. Canada is not a banana republic. The process of immigration and the amount of people the country will take it, is done by mass research by different departments, and specifically the economic council of Canada. The country's birth-rate (which is negative), medium age, government owed pension to senior citizens, etc are taken into consideration. The ECC, different industries, etc all meet with the PM and his administration. The numbers are crunched and expertise taken into consideration, then a immigration target number is gvien.

I mean you said "Immigration policies should be rooted primarily in the country's economic and societal interest". Are you suggesting the current government is not doing that ? Come on my friend. Stop believing the rhetoric sooken by the conservatives and PPC. You should be wise enough to weed out what's fact or just politricking. Do your own research. The federal government is not letting mass immigration in just to be "nice". The country drastically needs immigrants, and would collapse economically without it. And this is my field of expertise. Wasn't it the cons who introduced the EE ?

Bawss1:


Still does not make a difference.

Why?

Because politicians do not face the consequences of their policies when it goes bad. Trudeau does not have any more skin in the game than any of the other candidates They will all find ways to evade any blowback from their policies that affect them personally.

I will concede that Scheer could have handled this way better than he did. First, this made the headlines because in the past the Conservatives had questioned others about their dual citizenship. Scheer himself questioned Michaelle Jean's legitimacy back in 2005 when she was up the governor-general's office because of her Canadian and French citizenship. This does make him look hypocritical.

In the grand scheme of things, this remains a non-issue. Same way Trudeau's brownface was a non-issue if you asked me... but with politics being what it is everyone is throwing dirt and hoping for some to stick.

If a politician lives in Canada (only citizenship), and their policies destroyed the Canadian economy, how aren't they also facing the consequences ? Nobody cared that Scheer is a duel citizen or his experience or lack of it in the insurance industry. People only care about him lying and being such a hypocrite, especially when it has to do with something so minor. Can you imagine how he'd hide a bigger issue ? Trudeau's brown-face wasn't an issue because he admitted he did it, and they'll be other pics of him found as he admitted he did it more than once. Big difference between "you never asked me". Plus his track record on loving and embracing minorities hasn't been perfect, but it has been better than any other candidate.

Bawss1:


The dual citizenship thingy of Scheer is a non-issue.

People will, or should be in my opinion, more concerned about things that have real-world effects, such as taxes, jobs etc.

How could you have faith in your PM negotiating a trade deal with the U.S. for example, when he has nothing to lose ? If the deal goes bad for Canada, who cares, he can just move and work legally in the U.S. for example. How can anyone ignore such a conflict of interest ?

salford1:

I don't know why he did not begin the process of renouncing his American citizenship immediately he became the leader of the Con back in May, 2017. Did he not think people/press will find out and blow it out of proportion? He started the process to renounce last August. I believe he still wants to keep his American citizenship and would likely cancel his application to renounce after the election. He is a rich kid, and has no problem paying taxes to the US on his Canadian earnings.

If Rona Ambrose did not retire from politics, and if she was the leader of the Con, maybe I would be more inclined towards the Con. At the moment, I just don't really see how Sheer would make a better leader than Trudeau. I might be wrong.

Do you even believe he's in the process of renouncing his U.S. citizenship? Because he said so ?

Bawss1:
_{make I find small trouble}

PSA to all the Canucks in the house:

Remember to take out the trash on Monday the 21st. Conservatives for the win 2019!

I think most canucks want an actual Canadian in parliament hill.

salford1:

Hmmm. The workforce .. one needs to master the politics. If not, the intimidation, bullying, backstabbing, throwing others under the bus, subtle racism etc can be very overwhelming. However, I have mastered the art.

They are also not all nice outside the corporate world. I have had a few not so pleasant experience inside trains, car parks, inside aeroplanes etc. The fake smiles can be deceiving, so I always have my guards on just in case .

Overall, Canada is a pleasant country to live in.

Hahaha took me years to master the politricks. Years!!!! Now I have mastered it, I run these fake oyibo devils. But what makes me laugh and feel sad is when a new immigrant comes here and you warn them. They never listen and fall for these fake devils until they get burned then vex.

smartkester:
yeah it's easier to get UK study visa but what's the fate of one after the study?
UK immigration policies are quite stiff, getting a work permit and permanent residency after study is almost close to impossible, I stand to be corrected though

Exactly and they know this. A Nigerian who comes to Canada will stay. So people who can't or aren't qualified for EE try to use the school route to migrate pernamentally. It's not really meant for that. So hence the high rate of rejection.

ahiboilandgas:
then why are the school dishing out admission to Nigeria (illegals) Abi they are just collecting application fees,visa fees and smiling to the bank ...they should stop the post gradute work visa

Admission from the university and immigration visa are two different things.

I wish you luck. Unfortunately they discriminate against Nigerians when it comes to getting this visa.

NwanyiOkpa:


So what qualifies one to get the visa? I just graduated and i want to go for masters. Is it too hard to ask?

It's easier to get admission and a study visa in the U.K. Why not try there ?

NwanyiOkpa:


legit u mean? don't say that sir. I have been following the thread for some time now. Even people who have paid their tuition are being rejected. What definition of Legit do i not understand?

I always tell my people the Canadian society is negro proof. Whatever shady/ illegal nonsense you try in naija, don't try in Canada. People who aren't qualified for express entry are using the school route to try to enter canada. The Canadian government isn't stupid.

NwanyiOkpa:
Why are Nigerians getting so much visa rejections?

Legit Nigerian applications aren't getting rejected
.

Timi1990:


My brother you need the way one guy explained how things work in Rwanda and Burundi for me and how their Govt is making plans for multinational companies to set up in their country, I begin Dey weep for our dear Nigeria . Dem even get 24hrs steady power supply in those countries I no believe am until I did my findings and clear my doubt . This Nigeria nah still shit hole !

They're not as big and diverse as Nigeria.

nairalandposter:
I'm looking for a post where somebody was complaining Nigerians come home from abroad, spend money then return overseas, and they pity Nigerians at home but don't say it out loud.

I wanted to respond to that but I didn't note the moniker and I can't find the comment now. Anyone know where/who it is?

Believe it was me. Deny my comment.