speedyconnect3:


Does the dishwasher spend it in Nigeria ?

All these dollar to naira comparison is sickening.

At the same time taxes abroad covers more, leaving room for one to have more disposable income. I understand your point though.

Zutlin:


As a soon-to-be Canadian, I 100% support this. Infact, the test should have same importance level as IELTS. The one I just can't comprehend is an individual with a strong hate for LGBTs applying for PR. How can you clamour to live amongst people whose values you strongly detest? Whatever happened to remaining in 'holy' Nigeria and making heaven?

You think people would be honest on the test ? Also a lot of whites hate black people and end up running and winning the presidency or the highest office. Some here are not worse than the evil oyibo people we live amongst. But good thing we have mechanism to suppress their hate.

iaatmguy:
it is ok for a woman to hit a man. But it's bad if a man retaliates.
So much for equality.
They rant about equality, but cry wolf when the equality is dished out.
Hypocrites up and down
Yeye dey smell

Agreed. That's why some men don't take a woman's cry for equality seriously at times. You can't cry for equality when there's an advantage only. I still stand by my self defence claim as well.

Kmgb1:
In the spirit of changing the topic

So first week in Dec,one child was sick and at home for 3 days,the following week,the second and third joined while the first person was now okand could go to school,the last 2 missed school for 2 days. There was no issue at all as there was someone to stay back with any ailing child after hospital visits and i could still go to work all through the period even if i went late some days

My question- Those in Canada without their spouses,how do u swing such situations,what other choice do u have apart from stabbing work on those days(i presume your pay will also be deducted) will the frequency of having to stay back home cause issues at work. Any other thing i should take note of..biko seniors please shed light

Your pay wouldn't get deducted for a certain amount of days. The other days you can get close to 75 percent of your full pay or so. This is if you have a good union job. Most employer will work around your situation though.

Zutlin:


I can't explain how I feel reading your mindset towards marriage. Men like you scare me and one of my motivations to immigrate is to drastically reduce the chances of me and my unborn daughters coming across a man with your mindset. Sadly, your kind abounds in Nigeria.

You see, I understand you perfectly. My husband reasons just like you and he's always quick to bring religion and submission into the picture. I am a quiet and agreeable person and in hindsight, it's part of the reason he thought I would make a good wife. When I began pushing back by saying 'NO! This and that is inhumane and not acceptable', he labels me a nag, says I am unforgiving and always threatens divorce, all in a bid to shut me up. That threat really got me into 'submission'.

Maternal is right about the divorce rate in Nigeria being lower due to financial constraint. I tell you if Nigerian women had the needed support, many would have walked out. If I wasn't lucky to have a family that can financially, morally and emotionally support me, 'submission' would have been my lot.

Someday soon I plan to walk away. I do wish to get married again but the thought of being with a Nigerian man frightens me. I'm so drained I don't think I can go that route again.

**I'm sorry to share this much but I really wish men like you would understand better.**

I'm usually right. lol. But seriously, I hope you find a way to migrate. The chance of finding a guy like guitarlife won't drastically reduce if you come to the west (Canada/US), it will be eliminated. Guitar is just forming for this thread, and he knows he has no real power in Canada. The second he shows any signs of aggression, all she has to do is call 911, police will come with their guns and he'll be sitting in jail within an hour. The sec he says "divorce is out of the question", she'll file for divorce. After the judge splits the assets 50/50, he'll have to get a second job to help pay his child support bills on top of his regular bills. Because the gov't will automatically take it out of his pay. And if he can't make them ? Na jail be that. The man is making mouth. Here in Canada he'll be kissing his wifes asss begging her not to leave. I have an uncle worse than him and he refuses to bring his wife to Canada. According to him she'd "finish him here in Canada". He's legit scared that she'll have certain powers she could only dream off in naija. They've been "married" for 8 years now. Guitar is just talking nonsense trust me. There's actually a good article on this.



https://www.newtelegraphng.com/2018/06/why-nigerian-husbands-kill-wives-in-us-investigation/

adewa1980:


Some people come in through provincial nominee programme which they need to stick with their province unless there are compelling reasons why they need to move otherwise it can affect their citizenship application in the future. That is just opinion...

True. Wasn't talking about those people though.

extraterestrial:

So you would hit your wife then...because your daughter and sister won't be someone's wife or your mother wasn't somebody's wife...gtfoh

Anyone who assaults me will get assaulted back. Minus those exceptions. The concept is not hard to understand. Perhaps a person should keep their hands to themselves if they don't want to be hit ? My Mother, daughter, and sister respect themselves and don't go around hitting people. And if they do, then they better be ready for the consequence. I don't hit people twice my size and strenght because I don't want to be beaten up. Get that feminists/ priviliage BS outta here my friend.

Homguy:


It's hard to believe. The name though??
I had a very close friend(cum brother) during my Uni days whose names were "Oyindamola Ojuolape Eyitayo(not fullname)" he was the only male of Five children. He saw himself a feminist.
He came to mind on seeing this post.

A name is a name. Feminists? Far from it. I believe in equality in all aspects. If a woman puts her hands on me I'd beat her finish. That's how equal I am. Nobody gets a pass. Actually only momsy, daughter, and sister gets a pass. Just the hypocracy is funny. This was the same way slavery was justified. You know when the white used some nonsense bible verse, and claimed They re the masters and Africans should be submissive ? Can you imagine if a white man comes up to these men and say the nonsense They re saying about their woman ? It'd unacceptable and they'd be called racist.

How do hypocrites justify this ? Honestly.

Homguy:
This is interesting!.
I understand as the husband it's your duty to help out your wife If you really love her. I would not want my wife overworked for any reason at all.
But insisting that there must be a roster for cooking, doing dishes and household chores is a no-no. Was that the way you and your hubby lived while here?! ...and I know you have to adapt, but that's why you should pray for and marry an understanding partner so they can step up without having to be chained.

To those men rushing out to support these strange views, while i am not sure if you are just trying to be politically correct, or trying to look good to some faceless people but there are gender roles-I hope you cook equal times as your wives do . Even in the so called "civilized countries "we are talking about. I would personally do all I can to help my wife out always, but we are never having any rosters.

It's my own opinion but I have this feeling you are embittered in some way, going by your responses so far, but I might be wrong.

I'm a man. I wouldn't do a roster myself. Only for the children though.

ceemac:


I am kinda most interested in the bolded:

3. So she shouldn't cook? Maybe the man does not have to 'fend' as a duty for the family also. Did you say have YOUR child? I don't know when children became only the property of the man? You also mentioned open her legs at night? Is it only the man that enjoys the act? Can't you see from the previous post where a woman willingly forfeited 300k in Buhari's regime becos of 'soco'. If the man doesn't demand, the same woman will start raising suspicion that he is seeing someone outside..

4. Don't you think there is a reason the creator created a man first? Or why all the Supernatural beings' messengers like Jesus, Mohammed, Budha etc. pointed to are depicted as men and not women. For the records, I am not and will never be a sexist, there will always be a space for the sun and moon in the universe.

5.Don't be stereotypical about Naija men, the country already has a bad image enough to further single out some set of people for castigation. Go and see how other nationalities are rushing the same 'Nigerian men' . A prophet really does not have regard in his own house.

3. The point is things can/should be split 50/50. Why must it only be the woman to cook ? Men do not fend fully for the family in the west. Unless you're rich it's a 2 house income. The rest is taken out of context.

4. If one isn't religious or an atheist, this point of view is pointless to them. Because one was born into X religion doesn't mean they believe everything within the religion.

5. Ironically the demands some naija men put on naija women, they can't try that on the other nationalities "rushing" for them.

Guitarlife:

I had typed almost half a page of response and I just wiped it off now, why did you ask this question ?

I do not pray to be in such a position and I pray for the grace to remain faithful to my future spouse so I will not answer this question but believe me not all married men cheat.

I am not saying women must stay in abusive marriages there some lines that should not be crossed, physical violence and infidelity are a no no.
All marriages face challenges but for me this two are abomination that should not even happen.

You typed almost half a page of bullsh!t only to know i'd call you out, and you couldn't take yourself seriously. Nobody prays to be in X situation but they are. Answer the question ! The reason you can't/won't answer the question is because you're full of crap. If your wife cheated on you with another man you'd leave in less than 24 hours. Call your people from in-laws to friends in the village saying how she's an ashewo. Yet if it was you, you'd want to be forgiven and talk about all the God nonsense, head of the household, fight for the marriage, blah..blah.. and want your wife to stay and tolerate your sin/infidelity. You know nothing about Christianity or God. All you know how to do is manipulate God's words and the bible to benefit your best interests.

Guitarlife:

Maternal is this what you are passing through, if this is a narration of what you are passing through I am deeply sorry but this is not what I mean by submission, I am not an animal.

Submission simply means that the woman acknowledges that the man is the head of the home, while the man also has a duty to love his wife, it remains a delicate concept, a mystery , an art, a beauty that is almost lost in todays chaotic and material driven life.

No doubt majority of families are barely pulling through and most are just wearing a shallow and fake smile to mask the inadequacies but usurping the natural order will not solve the problem.

If a man/ woman marries the right partner taking up their roles in marriage will not be a problem, however, things are a lot more easier when each partner does understand their God given roles in marriage. Now if you are not a practising christian or have your spirituality at a low level this will not make much sense, I know.
Its even worse if all you have always seen are dysfunctional marriages with the men beasts and according to you maternal the women angels/saints.

You think you're smart, but you really aren't. Stop personalizing this. I've never experience these things personally, but I have a lot of friends who have been in different types of marriages. So please answer these questions and stop running your mouth all over the place.

1. Give me a clear example how the man is the head of the household ?

2. What is the natural order ? Again I want a clear example.

3. What exactly is the man's and woman's God given roles ? Other than child birth. Again I need clear examples.

4. What exactly is spirituality at a low level? Again, I need a clear example. Don't dance around these questions.

[quote author=Guitarlife post=74036197][/quote]

You make no sense and contradict yourself. But I want you to still answer my one question.

"Bros, if your wife cheated on you with another man, would you stay and work it out ? Be honest with your answer Mr Saint."

Answer the question.

salford:
Sometimes the women are not even aware that they have stopped being submissive. Alot of women from Nigeria are used to having househelp and that neice or nephew from village doing all the running around. By the time they get here, normal everyday task could become overwhelming, then women request that their husband help them with house chores...na there the wahala dey start.

Exactly ! You have to adapt to your environment or wherever you're living. In the west you need both partners to be working in most cases, unless you're rich. After doing 8 hour days, 1 hour commute each way, making it a total of a 10 hour day. These "men" will now want their wives to have dinner freshly made, their bathe water hot and ready, etc. Then before they sleep they'll want some toto. All this along with her 10 hour day, can make it easily a 12 hour day. Then if you have kids, oh boy. But if the woman says it's too much to handle, or come and give me help, she's now a witch, trying to be the head of the household. I tire for these cave men parading around as actual men.

Guitarlife:

I am a bit confused by your stand in the bolded ?
1. Are you saying its okay to divorce ?
2. Are you a christian or muslim, its the holy book that says women should submit if you want to have a happy and long lasting marriage not me (Turns out the book is right as nations that have this order reversed have the highest divorce rates).
3. Each person has a choice to make, for me I have decided it is in my best interest to avoid women who want to stand up to their men. Are you saying there are no women even in the western countries who do not consider submission slavery ? Are you saying all the women abroad stand up to their men and form equality?
4. Lastly, are you inferring that the only set of women that submit are those that are financially handicapped ?
5 . I had to address the last bolded, Marriage for you may appear like an hobby or a to-do list but for some men, men like me its a lifetime commitment to support and remain faithful to one partner. Now you'd agree it will be tragic to get married to a lady who thinks she has the right to pop out of marriage at the slightest hint of unhappiness like you have posited she has a right to, ofcourse she does but I do not pray to meet such a woman in this life .
I pray for a woman who understands the sanctity of marriage and is ready to weather the storm even in those times when things will not be rosy, this is life and not a film or hollywood fantasy movie, challenges will come and such a woman with the mindset you described above will run.

I don't know why you're confused. But I'll answer your question.

1. YES when necessary. I've seen females in my family almost get killed by their husbands because of the stigma of being a divorcee. If your life is in danger or you're simply not happy, and you think the marriage is irreparable; then YES people should get divorced. We only have one life to live.

2. My religion is nobody business. Stop turning this into a religious debate. But I do know religion can be skewed or manipulated into ones best interests. I cant stand people who pick and chooses parts of their religion/holy book to benefit their own interests.

3. LOL stand up to their man ? So a woman shouldn't have a voice or opinion ? So she should cook your food, have your child, do as you say, then open her legs at night for you. Then the cycle begins the follow day. The sec she says she doesn't want to do X, then she's "standing up to her man". I need you to elaborate what you mean by that. And yes most women stand up to their man in the west and form equality. She'd be stupid not too. Many woman have died for such a right.

4. YES. Any man who feels a woman loves to be treated unfairly is an idiot. Give a woman economic power and you'll see how she really feels about you. You think woman abroad are just more stronger than the woman in naija ? The woman abroad have a system that'll help them.

5. LOL Abeg go and sit down. Remain faithful to one partner ? A naija man ? Marriage for you is the ability to f^ck as many woman as you like. While your wife remains at home, submissive, while doing everything you say like a house girl. Who do you think you're fooling here ? Pop out of marriage at the slightest hint of unhappiness ? Bros, if your wife cheated on you with another man, would you stay and work it out ? Be honest with your answer Mr Saint.

Why would any man want a woman to remain in a marriage she's not happy in ? Seriously. Is it insecurity ? I'm confused.

Guitarlife:

I cringe at the bolded. That was what my former spouse was tending towards, she had lived abroad too for a while, I actually walked away much earlier but she kept promising to change, well it got to a point she changed from promising to change to prooving to me that it was wrong for me to demand submission.
I am aware both religions postulate that the man is the head, the west teaches us otherwise and the result is there to see, the highest level of divorce is in the western and North American countries.

Surprisingly, she was a "dedicated christian" and I assumed this shouldn't be an issue.

Summary is that I ran sha, if the west tells us the Woman is the head or encourages the dual leadership of the home it doesnt mean it is right, the results are there for all to see as the west as failed woefully in marital standards.

And demanding submission is not bullying @ the bolded, a ship can never have 2 captains and the fact the man is the head doesn't mean the wife is a slave either.

The west has the highest divorce rates because woman have resources not to take nonsense from men here. You have many safety nets here which allow the women to be independent if she needs or chooses to be. In a 3rd world country, most women have no other option but to stay. Let Nigeria have a welfare system, government paid schooling for the kids, government paid healthcare for all, etc like Canada and see how fast women leave and divorce their useless husband. Along with a legal system that enforces the law if any domestic abuse occurs.

Why would a man want to force a woman to stay even if she's not happy ? Is it by force ? What kind of sick enjoyment would a guy have in such situations ? Abeg if she's not happy why can't/ shouldn't she leave ? The same man who marry's a "dedicated christian" is the same man who'll have multiple side chicks and maybe a baby outside the marriage. Hypocritical Africans and religion I swear. We men need to grow up. This sick backward thinking is why Africa is what it is today.

Bonvieto:
thank you for the advice and response, just to clarify i didnt enter the UK as an Illegal, i studied there for 2 years, and i found it difficult adjusting once i got there, thats what i mean

I know. It's shocking when these western countries have and enforce their strict immigration laws. People in Nigeria don't realize this before they leave. Either way that's why I was saying focus on getting Canadian papers first.

Bonvieto:
hi guys, i havent gotten my ppr but i am going by faith that i will soon, so i just wanna ask a couple of questions, so i know what i am getting myself into.

Brief introduction about me, i am single, i have a masters degree in telecoms engineering, a Bsc in Chem and a diploma in IT, i did my masters in UK, and i lived there for 4 years, so i quite used to the cold a lil bit.

1. what province is the best to settle in ? i am thinking of Toronto, but i wanna get you guys take first before making that decision.
2. do i have to convert all my POF to foreign currency before boarding a plane to Canada?
3. what advice and tips can you guys give me, and what support system is available to fresh immigrants in canada?

i ask these questions because i do not want to make the same mistake i made when i first got to the UK, took me along time to adjust to life there, and u can imagine i lost alot of money on unnecessary spending.

Perhaps you should get the PR first. But when you land you'll be legal and no home office will be after you. So it wouldn't take long for you to adjust and a lot of money wouldn't be loss on lawyer fees. But to answer your questions:

1. Depends on your objective

2. No

3. The federal and provincial govt have support systems. Depends where you want to settle.

hoyo:

Ok thanks, the husband is not willing to relocate and has a gig that gets 20m plus per annum in Naija but wants family in canny and will be visiting. Can the amount cater running cost for the family over there? Pending when hopefully the wife secure a job. There's a baby as well so wife may not be able to start working just immediately but the other kids are of school age which I heard it's free to some extent

I see this situation frequently. You have a good paying job and don't want to leave it. But at the same time you want your kids to get that Canadian passport and live in a sane environment. So the wife goes while the husband stays back and only visits until it makes sense to make the jump. Nobody can answer your financial questions but yourself. What is you and your husbands financial obligation in Nigeria ? What will be your new financial obligation in Canada ? The better question to ask is what's the cost of living in each individual Canadian cities so you can try to create a Canadian budget. 20 Mill naira you're looking at over 70k CDN. Is that gross or net ? Will you be living in Toronto with high rent, or a cheaper city ? Will you buy a car or use public transport ? It all depends. I know a women in the same situation, except her husband was making over 100k CDN in naija. Financially they were ok, but it affected the marriage.

hoyo:
From the experienced guys in Canada, please can someone earning about 20m naira per annum cope with his family (wife and 3 children) in Canada while he continue working in Naija? Is this doable or not...Will appreciate response from already landed seniors..appreciate

I think you need to make your question more specific.

sunvick:
Oga, Like which area please?

The whole of Canada.

jelmusboy:
BORING LANDING GIST, PART II

So, I spent two weeks and some days in Toronto, trying to see if I can stay back there. During this period, I was consulting with landed seniors about life in Canada provinces and at the same time, I was applying for jobs in Ontario and other provinces. Also, my hosts were wonderful but few days after I landed, the husband started grumbling. He just wanted us to leave as soon as we can, and this is the same person who said they used good six months searching for a house in GTA, until they were able to get a 2 bedroom apartment.

Although, I chose Saskatchewan as my province of destination, I consulted again on my choice from a senior colleague who lives there. At last, I decided to leave for Edmonton, Alberta. The high minimum wage, low tax, relative "ease" of getting something to do and assurance of getting job after getting my certification done were the factors I considered in choosing Edmonton. Also, as someone who spent the last 3.5 years in Manchester, England, I believe Toronto is like London which I hated visiting, while Edmonton/Calgary should be like Manchester which I love 100 times more than London. Through, my 3.5 years stay in England, my visit to London does not count up to 10 times cos I hate "Lagos" life in England.

On Thursday, we left Ontario via Flair air. Our flight was 7am flight and had to leave our house around 4.30am to sort out our baggage. We had 6 checked-in baggage and all were overweight. This was because we got delivery of our food items from Nigeria on Monday. We paid heavily for the cabin baggage and checked-in baggage but this is a decision and move we have to make at the early stage. After boarding, flight was delayed for like an hour cos of the snow and the need to check that the aircraft is fit to fly. The flight time was 4 hours and some minutes to Edmonton from Toronto. Mildly dislocated my shoulder while lifting the overweight baggage, I will visit the Doctor when I get the green signal with my health registration.

A senior colleague of mine doing his PhD at University of Alberta came to pick us up at the airport. We packed our bags in the trunk and the back seat and prayed that we shouldn't meet police on our way cos we also didn't have a car seat for my baby. We got to the house I already paid for which a brand new basement, owned by a Nigeria. Someone from Edmonton WhatsApp group helped me checked it out and they were satisfied with the house. I made the security deposit a day before we flew to Edmonton and when we got to the house, the guy was at work. I called him and he directed me to where to get the key to the apartment. The basement was so lovely, new appliances and large bedrooms.

Immediately we dropped our bags, my senior colleague took us to where we ate poundo yam and efo riro around downtown, went to do some shopping and came back late. The landlord came over to say hi to us and he was happy to have us around, as his country people. We also had to remove nylon from some appliances and he apologized for not doing that before we came in. We liked it like that anyway

I'm happy I chose Edmonton finally and I want to thank Salford for giving me his audience when I was trying to decide where to go, members of Edmonton WhatsApp group who are always listening to me whenever I asked questions about areas to live, and lastly to TheCongo, you are God's sent and a jewel. You exceeded my expectation and it is only God that can reward your good gesture towards me. You showed me that there are people out there who can go out of their way to help fellow human being, you are worthy of emulation I must say. I won't forget my beautiful sister, HappyTBaby, you are too much.

Fellow NLders, I won't mind if you can help me thank TheCongo for what he did for me but please, don't ask me what he did sha

Lastly, we are in Canada to thrive and not to survive, let's cultivate the habit of helping each other. Let's post job adverts and any beneficial programs here. Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese are making it big time in western countries by helping themselves, let's do that for ourselves. Helping me does not mean you will be paid lower and me helping you does not mean I won't be able to pay my Bills.

The job hunt starts... Bye guys and thanks for reading my boring gist

What profession are you into ? What did you read ?

Snappyfingaz:


No word of a lie there. I am always shocked when people say they love Toronto but like they say, different strokes for different folks. To me, the quality of life there is much lower compared to western Canada.

Everyone has their own reason. One shouldn't be too judgmental. The issue is some Toronto people aren't willing to look outside the GTA. That's problematic.

Babyvet:


No quora is forum like this. Good thing about that forum is has more world view and objective. You get views from immigrants and natives of the country. Plus reliable links we provided in the quora forum. The case you posted is not the one I’m talking about , the one I’m talking about migrated legally to Canada. I’m not saying people are running away from Canada, it what it is. Mind that , that number does not include people who drive from Canada everyday accross the border to the US for work. It seems like Canadian immigrants seem to be die hard fans of the country even more than natives. That’s why I like to be hear about Canada from the natives because I get a more objective view.

I'm not die hard at all. I view Canada/ US as the same thing, though some differences. But as natives, do you mean whites or aboriginals ? Because both have their bias. I think I've skewed this thread enough.

Beautyaddy:


Hmmm...interesting!

Canada has vast avaliable of land for growth so why are they not making use of it for growth and development so that the job opputunities some of them are emigrating into the US to get will not be necessary.

Those 45k Canadians are mainly rich white Canadians who worked for a company in Canada, got a promotion, and had to move to the headquarters which is probably based in a New York. Probably half married an America. Some even said that was their situation, simply marriage. As for population growth, Canada's geography is unique. Despite being the 2nd biggest country in the world geography wise, a good size of the country is unlivable. It's simply too cold to live up north. So why develop it ? Would you live in a place that goes up to -50 during winter time ? Furthermore, your infrastructure, social services, etc has to support your population growth. If you let a million people in tomorrow to a city for example, infrastructure will suffer, they'd be inadequate hospital beds, etc. That's why small sized countries like a Sweden or Switzerland enjoy a very great standard of living, and strategically suppresses their population for what they actually need and want. Their standard of living is higher than North Americans. All those illegal immigrants attempting to enter the U.S. While some Americans may be flattered "everyone wants to live there", they'll erode parts of their social services, and re-direct some essential tax payer money into law enforcement, which could/should be used for other things. Example the millions unexpectedly spent to shut down the San Diego/Mexico border recently. They couldn't use that on healthcare for example ?

Babyvet:


Yes I understand that, but there is a reason why people are rapidly applying to the US from all the over the world compared to Canada. Reason being is opportunities. Even Canadians would admit that there are more opportunities in the U.S.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many-more-Canadians-45-000-immigrate-to-the-USA-each-year-than-people-from-the-USA-7-500-immigrate-to-Canada-Are-there-more-opportunities-economic-or-otherwise-in-America

Didn't know Quora is a reliable source. Even if it was, what's 45k people with a population of 37 million ? That's less than 1 percent. You're acting like everyone is running away from Canada. Furthermore, the American economy is 10 times bigger and there's a lot more opportunities there for certain professions. Nobody is doubting that. But you were talking about the Mexicans not wanting to come to Canada due to the lack of jobs; specifically construction jobs. Which is false. The "Mexican" who regretted coming to Canada is actually from EL Salvador. He's upset because Canada rejected his claim as he's not a true refugee. But he's actually doing construction work in the meantime while you claim there's none. As for the real Mexicans, they're coming to Canada in numbers clogging up the refugee system.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONjCMzB_FPw&feature=youtu.be


https://globalnews.ca/news/4042075/mexico-refugee-claims-spike-visa-lift/

Babyvet:


Even with Canada’s lenineint immigration , how come their country never full reach? How come are people are killing themselves to come the US especially Hispanics when they could go to Canada who has more relaxed immigration policy.

The canadian government strategically suppresses population growth to a certain number per year. Lastly geographic location as well plays a big role.

Bawss1:


Got it. Having someone in Calgary to help with your landing is totally understandable. From there you can position yourself to take opportunities as they present themselves.

I am one of those people who are biased in citing Ontario as the place to be when it comes to IT. True, Toronto is a heck of a busy place to live in with the fast pace of life like one would find in any commercial hub anywhere these days. Thing is, it is very competitive in terms of IT jobs and this is unmatched by few places in the country except, say, Montreal.

Another place in the province that is growing as an IT hub is the Kitchener-Waterloo region. It doesn't have as many opportunities as Toronto but it is steadily growing its clout. The plus side is that it is still offers a calmer pace of life unlike Toronto. [s]Also with all the schools in the region babes full ground[/s]

I myself do not care much for big cities and their bustle, I generally stay away from Toronto ...except on the weekends when it is time for owambe For me living in the K-W region is like the best of both worlds, enjoy a calm city life and when it's time to switch it up the 6ix is just an hour away.

Correct. I love that area. I have a guy that does the same. Go to Toronto for fun, then get the hell out on the weekends. I heard the Somali population is growing there, and the housing prices are increasing. Is that true ?

salford1:

Well. Maybe with the exception of Vancouver.
True Sask offered both. However, let us look at it from a different angle. Canada is not much of a big country (not talking landmass). There few major or minor cities so that makes career mobility difficult. This reason makes it tough for some people to find jobs in their profession outside the Toronto area especially those in some highly specialized finance profession. No matter how we spin it, there jobs just don't exist outside the Toronto CBD. If it does exist, it would be maybe just one or two openings in a year compared to the daily openings they would have access to in Toronto. Let's cut them some slack.

This might be related or unrelated, depending on how one looks at it. With regards to your comment about exploring and seeking out opportunities across the country, I think that is an excellent suggestion.
Some of us are lucky to find ourselves in professions that would still have vacancies or openings even in remote locations, so mobility becomes a non issue, and unlike most major cities in the world where employers would often pay extra or top-up for living and working in a big city, Canadian employers would often pay you more to move from a big city to a small city. It's not uncommon to see people earning up to $10 more on top their hourly wage just by moving from Calgary when they take up a job to some smaller cities or town in Alberta.

I agree. But would you stay in the GTA for example and seek your specialization, even if they pay isn't the greatest and your quality of life is lower, or try a different province/profession ? That's peoples issue in the GTA I feel.

Influential101:
Everyone can't move to Alberta because Alberta can't provide jobs for all..

GTA still remains a choice destination for IT and finance... I have a friend in Toronto and he's doing fine.. In addition, you enjoy a fairly good weather..

To each his own..

Well, would your friend tell you if they weren't doing well ? The weather argument carry;s no weight. But I agree to each their own. I'm just giving a different perspective which this forum is made for. Toronto people are jumping on me.

eclectic139:
Is it possible to leave people to their choices without shaming them for it. They want to see sky scrappers and have access to suya...is it on your POF?. If people are complaining about it being tough for them in Toronto you can give them an alternative based on your experience in Alberta. Not make it seem like they don't know what they are doing. The airport people land at is in Toronto, the weather is better, making it easier for people hustle and reduce the shock of moving from naija weather. Allow people abeg.

I don't have a right to voice my opinion ? If you don't like my comments simply skip it. The more people voice their opinions, the better for everyone reading to get what they want out of it. Perhaps we have capitalists reading the thread who want to land full force and don't need time to reduce the shock ? Sista don't shame or belittle me for my comment. I skip a lot of comments I don't agree or care for.

salford1:

Na so o. Some people come out west initially, but move to the east before getting something meaningful. I have seen several cases. It also works vice versa too. Canada is not a "one size fit all" for immigrants.


Not comparing to Toronto or elsewhere in Ontario. Alberta maybe some sort of eldorado (maybe if you work in the oil industry).
While stats often report that Alberta leads the way in remuneration, this can be further looked into specifically for different industries or better still career paths. Outside the oil industry, some career path pay more in other provinces than Alberta. Using my own industry and that of my wife, the pay are higher in Sask. Who would have thought?

In addition, what Albertans save on PST, others in a different province might be saving more elsewhere. E.g My phone bill, same plan/phone as what i had in Alberta cost $30 less per month, and my car insurance cost me $100 less per month! Using cities with similar status, full time daycare cost us about $250 less per month (per child). I would rather pay a little tax, probably extra 1% or 2% on top my wage and gladly pay PST to continue enjoying/keep my other monthly savings.

I'm actually a fan of Sask as well. But we're specifically talking about Toronto here. The formula is good pay with a low or decent cost of living. If the cost of living isn't respectable, then how much can one save ? I'm sure Sask offered you both. But back to Toronto, nothing is cheaper compared to the west. Absolutely nothing. Mix that with intense competition. I use to live there for years. I think the point is Toronto people shouldn't suffer in silence. Explore Canada and other opportunities across the country.