₦airaland Forum

sweetmelanin:
It's ridiculous to judge the "lack of racism and discrimination" in a country based on the current president who will leave office at some point.

Canada has always had very few immigrants living amongst them.. what do you think will happen when citizens start seeing more and more foreigners in their country? ....remember years ago when people used to praise the UK for its hospitality towards immigrants? yeah, until the citizens voted Brexit to the shock of many.. (we all know the Brexit vote was laden in covert racism, people getting fed up of immigrants "taking over" their country).

Remember when America had Obama as president? Well, nobody envisaged the nightmare that would follow shortly after...

Bottom line is, don't get too comfortable.

White people in Canada don't own the land and they're equally immigrants. They're just a few generations in. Also white people here are soft. They'd never run up to a Nigerian and physically try to fight for example. We'd back hand them easily. At most they'll gossip behind your back like school children.

babakb:
I don't know why people are over emphasizing racism all the time, the UK and US spent decades accepting legal and illegal immigrants, at some point they must close their boarders, so the covert racism is justified.

The Black entitlement mentality is just out of this world, the funny thing is when Nigggas shoot Nigggas we keep quiet but when whites shoot Nigggas the whole world shouts racism...

The wealth you see today was built off the backs of our black ancestors. Countries like the UK, America, etc became wealthy off stealing human capital from Africa, and Africa's resources till this day. The typical white American is an immigrant themselves, who's not liked by the native American. He has no legal rights to be there, talk less saying who should come in or not. Lastly whites have been killing each other for hundreds of years. World wars, Canada vs USA, UK vs France, etc. Nobody says much. But when an Arab Muslim kills a white the whole world shouts terrorism. What's your point ?

Activist001:
Everyone is talking about Canada, many Nigerians are fleeing Nigeria to Canada every day. My mind tells me the country might "cast" for Nigerians soon because anything Nigerians do en masse doesn't always end well, just name it - business, profession, school e.t.c.

Please note that i'm not trying to discourage anyone from fleeing to Canada or anywhere outside this hell hole of a country, I am also planning to japa soon.

Guys, what do you think? Will Canada cast for Nigerians soon? Will it become harder to immigrate to due to some shitty things some of our countrymen MIGHT indulge in?

You'll always have your exceptions, but Nigerians usually respect the laws in Canada. They can't try nonsense in Canada.

Biglittlelois:
Bintin laye......hmmm deep


So why aren't you married to any over there? They don't meet your standard? Cos it's not possible for all of them to have same standard.

Nobody cares about Nigerian women in Canada. There's so many different options of women, minus the attitude. In fact Nigerian women to Nigerian men are seen as local. While other women are seen as foreign. Foreign products always get more attention

ghuzy01:
Once they enter canada like this, next thing is Youtube. Welcome ma.
One more thing, I noticed its only women that are into this YouTube of a thing..why na

Naija women have no power in Canada. No one sends them. The men are also busy hustling, strategizing.

JesusDWay:
You already have cultists and Yahoo boys in Toronto...

The federal government have intelligence on the cultists. They were broken up, and those who weren't citizens were deported, and those who are were given long sentences. I know of a girl who's boyfriend got deported. I also know of a guy who's doing 20 years for 419 and drug trafficking in the Toronto area. Canada is ready for any lawless individuals who wants to turn this place into naija. It won't work.

Activist001:
Did blacks build Europe?

Where do you think they European countries got their wealth from, after enslaving blacks for hundreds of years ?

bfire:
You're very correct.

So many Nigerians from England, USA are here in Canada in the past 5yrs. Their numbers is scary

They never had papers there to begin with.

britiko:
The loophole is d assylum seekers. Most comes in with fabricated lies to constitute a nuisance.
You hear some lies and forget ur name

They hand pick who they want from refugee seekers as well. They're not dumb.

meobizy:
It takes x amount of Nigerians to destroy the system there. The place is getting too full of our brothers, I would check elsewhere.

Blacks make up like 3 percent of Canada's population. Either way the system is Nigerian proof. Most won't try it.

AreaFada2:
She is not discouraging anymore. You can tell somebody who does not live in a snowy country. You cannot say it's everyone who will wait for doorsteps to be cleared by others before going out. You mean it's every community you will see local guys ready to clear your snow?

Whenever you tell people about own experience they call it discouragement. All they want to hear is that the president, monarch or prime minister is your neighbour and Na you dey run things. They want empty bragging. Then will be pestering "baba, assist me Na".

Have a simple argument with them here and they tell you that you are second class citizen abroad and you wash dead bodies.

Our people just have too much belle abeg.

I have experience living in Canada. The white man is very organized and has structures in place to make their life very comfortable. This video was done in bad taste. She knows what she's trying to do. Some countries shouldn't be compared to others period.

AreaFada2:
Canada is big enough, there is enough space for everyone duly qualified to go. No need for some to return to accommodate you.

No need for bad belle for everything.

Her information is useful to some people. You truly have to appreciate people sharing information. I would have appreciated such info before leaving to live in a temperate environment those many years ago.

Even within a country, weather can affect where you choose to settle. Chicago or Miami, Paris or Nice, London or Edinburgh, etc,

Shes lying to you people. The city or apartment complexes hire contractors to clear the snow. If you own your own house, you can also hire private contractors to clear the snow on your driveway for the whole winter season. Worst case, you can hire some local kids, pay them 20 dollars or so and they'll do it.

Lastly, most cars come with automatic car starters. Or you can buy one and get it installed. You can start your car anywhere. Sit inside your warm house while you car gets warm. You can turn up the heat in your car, etc. Snow and cold is not an issue. You can solve those problems easily.

This woman has an agenda and is trying to discourage people for whatever reason to come to Canada. SARS and Buhari are killing people. Unemployment and poverty is on the rise in Nigeria. And what's disturbing her is snow ? She's too foolish to realize this will make people want to come to Canada even more.

PoliteActivist:
How do u know? Maybe she had a good life in 9ja before she ran for paradise. That's why, u have to know a person's particular circumstances

No person who has a good life would run to an unknown place. The brain simply doesn't work that way.

Oracleforce:
It is not easy to extend Nigeria visa.. .it takes more than $2000 to extend your stay in Nigeria for a year....since you are a Nigerian, you don't value it..

You can easily find someone that would do it for a few hundred dollars USD. You don't have much of these people who overstay. A typical white American or Canadian is there for business. No sane person from those 2 countries would overstay, and drastically reduce their quality of life.

lekki1444:
Ahhhh youngblood but you forget the most important question of all, how many of that 45 billionaire in canada is black ? how many of the 29 thousand millionaires in canada are black ?

Ahhhh but you forgot to mention the black population in Canada is under 3.6 percent. Ahhhh try putting things in context.

Princewill1:
You definitely can't compare Canada with Nigeria. But what I dislike about C

Western countries were designed in a way that the 99% masses will for work for the 1% elites.

The rat race! work in the morning, afternoon and night. They're workforce Nations.

Those of us who ain't good with keeping job routines who prefers owning our businesses rather than work for others. Sees Nigeria as the best place to easily own a business.

Working tirelessly paycheck to paycheck in which system is designed take away from you is no no for me. Majority of Americans and Canadians don't even have up to us$10,000 in their bank accounts.

Canada is good, but that will be a holiday destination.

Nigeria is designed where 99.9% of the masses work for 0.01 of the population. The poverty race. Where you no get job. Its a jobless nation. Thats why everyone talks "business, business". Theres no job. People beg tirelessly where the common man can't buy bread. That's a no no for me. The majority of Nigerians don't have 30k naira cash to their names. Thats why all they do is beg their relatives abroad constantly.

Naija is a S-hole country.

Kenn55:
Guy, stop lying to buttress your point.

Nobody collects 1300CAD in Canada a month doing a full time job even if it is cleaning toilet. Minimum wage is $14 per hour. If you are working full time (40 hours a week) cleaning toilets, you will earn 2240 CAD a month before taxes. Most people in those low category of work do overtime or 2 jobs. It won't be surprising seeing that person take up a weekend job where they will work for extra 10 hours over the weekend and make extra money.
Now, people in those category have a very low tax bracket. Canada does not have a flat tax for everyone, it depends on your earnings. In Canada, people keep receipts and record of some things they pay out of pocket like rents, church offerings etc. and at the end of the tax year, you can include those expenses when filing your taxes and you will get some money back from the government as refund. In my first year in Canada, the money i and my wife got back in our tax return from government was enough to buy our second car.

You need to understand a system thoroughly before you make good judgement. Don't rely on hear say or what you read on Nairaland. Some of the information peddled on this forum may not be lies but are half-truths. The thing is that Half-truth is worse than lies.

The person you are talking about may just be working part time or a student who is only expected to work 20 hours a week maximum or there is something else they are not telling you. In reality no permanent resident full time worker will earn just 1300CAD every month. Not mathematically possible.

One thing most of you don't understand is that you don't rate a country based on the rich. The rich in any country Canada and the US included is a small percentage of the entire population and will always be so. You rate a country based on what is available to the lower class, the poor. What services are available to them? What social benefits are available to them? How are the poor treated? etc.

For instance, the poor in Nigeria will not even have the opportunity to do 2 jobs even if they want to. Why? Because the system does not support it. By not having an hourly wage in Nigeria, you have systematically prevented the poor from working in 2 places that would have helped them earn more.

I was going to write this, with proof. But I no get his time. Its literally ILLEGAL to make 1300 per month working full-time. You also forgot, that if you have kids, and make a small amount of money, the government gives you money every month to help with the upkeep of your kids. Then tax season you'll get more money back for having kids.

I still can't believe people are comparing Canada with Nigeria

bull67:
dont compare nigeria and canada at all. compare nigeria to republic of benin. i know some people will say nigeria is richer. i live in the uk and i have been to all these countries before. My friends, nigeria is the worst place to live. number one, the country is overcrowded. No government can make nigeria better because corruption wont stop. i have a friend in canada that attends a university there. If you see there classrooms ennn, its better than dangotes office. Go to nigerian public university, you will see about 400 in a class. Its only easy to make money in nigeria, and thats because of the population nothing more. Buts lets say you go broke nko? i have uncles that where rich in the 80s and 90s but today there is nothing. One still has some few properties to keep his soul but he has heart problems, the other one has nothing to show. As for me its good to have both passports. Build yourself abroad then come and make money in nigeria doing business. niger its not safe even doctors are leaving nigeria. Some of these doctors are in countries like jamaica and some other carribean countries. even doctors for liberia are getting good wages and living in beautiful doctors estates. i leave abroad and i invest back home. i also employ people. I am just doing it because i love the country but let me tell you the real fact, people are stealing your tax and oil money and they are buyings shopping malls and expensive flat in 1 london,lstanbul,scotland which is there new heaven,paris, america, milton kyenes in the uk e.t.c. this is what i know no be joke. They will later spoil the country, make you kill each other and run away. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. they even invest in their childrens name and even grandchildren.

Tell them. You'll see these politicians kids, partner, etc in the west living life. Stealing the countries money, waiting to join them once they've looted the country dry and they're out of office. If the people responsible for making the country better are planning their escape, what idiot would argue about staying in the country if they don't have too ?

Elxandre:
You're privileged to be in the minority and you now proclaim Nigeria is better because of your rare privilege which majority of Nigerians don't have?

A society which people with average incomes can't live a humane life is completely broken and dysfunctional.

He/she is a small pikin. That's a typical Nigerian. As long as I'm doing ok, wetin concern me. Only when it affects them they'll care. They never think "this could be my situation one day". He'll champion naija as long as it's doing good for him. See the op. People are dying, poverty level has increased, etc. Yet she's in Canada discouraging People from coming there. With all the opportunities why did she leave naija? I don't see Canadians migrating to naija. Why ? Because its a downgrade.

I knew a girl who went to school in Canada. After graduation they give you a 3 year open work permit. Within that 3 years with work experience, and if you meet the requirements you can file for residency then citizenship. This girl had many "opportunities" in naija and was told to go back. I told her not to try that, because that country is unstable and messed up. And the people telling you to return are enemy of progress. She bought a 1 way ticket back to naija. She don turn Ashewo since then and is trying to comeback to Canada through the EE.

To the oblivious youths, please don't listen to this woman, or anybody who's saying you should return to naija or stay in naija. Especially if they themselves are not in naija permanently.

Victor8867:
Op then while are you still in canada since Nigeria is better?

Funny they'll find any way to leave naija. But when it's time to return, for some reason they can't find a way to return.

hakeem4:
I am not saying Nigeria is totally better than Canada now.

I mean if you’re doing well in Nigeria, there’s no need to relocate to Canada if not you’re most likely to regret it

Because no matter how much money you have, nonsense like this can always happen. How does 400, not four, but 400 students go missing? What a joke of a country. Everything is not about money.



https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/7519757/nigerian-school-students-missing/amp/

hakeem4:
with students loan ? Guy stop deceiving yourself

This thread should be comparing Naija vs India. Stop insulting Canada.

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/nigeria-replaces-india-most-extreme-poverty/?utm_source=paidsearch&utm_medium=usgrant&utm_campaign=verizon&gclid=CjwKCAiAt9z-BRBCEiwA_bWv-Kc7yjAuf74LDtGELaCH4uZTNZcwJZOdHlOF7GMlFWXo5DjVidj20hoCoAEQAvD_BwE


https://globalnews.ca/news/1284297/canadas-middle-class-most-prosperous-in-world-report/

hakeem4:
you don’t know anything my brother. This is actually small especially when they deduct tax etc

After taxes you're guaranteed free education up to the University level. You can even have 100 kids. Their school fees would be paid. Good healthcare for no cost. Good roads. Etc. If you pay all that out of your pockets you'd have less money available to take home.

Kalapizim:
Great insight most people wont like to hear.

Jealousy go kill una.

Nicoswit:
You have just spoken the truth bro but they wont listen...one of the things that i personally dont like about those western countries is the high tax...for me the tax will make it difficult to have a decent savings especially as a family man...and the higher your salary,the higher your tax mehn!

Nigerians always complain about not having the basic needs. Then when its time to pay taxes so these services can be provided, they start to shout. This is what happens when you've only lived in a 3rd world country your whole life.

Paying taxes actually makes life cheaper. It'd be unaffordable to pay everything out of your pockets. Hence why the typical Nigerian lacks a lot. By the time you pay for school fees, hospital fee, security, etc out of pocket, what do you have left ?

rinzaugustine:
mugu

So mugu is stopping you front returning back to naija ?

79733139:
Suffering in Nigeria and that of Canada are two different things. Their standard of living at poverty level in Canada is a lot more higher than in Nigeria, overall you are still better of in countries like Canada and Germany. In those countries, there is a welfare system (food, healthcare and basic shelter) to cover you if things aren't working out for you at the moment.

How many low income earners and poor thinkers do you think can scale the tedious Express Entry process? And as for that your friend, after 3 years of legitimately working in Canada, he can apply for citizenship and get it before his 4th year in Canada. With a Canadian passport he can move to any 1st world country that he likes, while you still remain in Nigeria trying your best to discourage others from making an attempt to better their lives.

He's a typical selfish and arrogant Nigerian, who's definition of success is having a little job and house. And on the weekends, he goes out and chops suya while drinking beer. He doesn't know his co-worker is the one laughing at him deep down. In fact more like pity.

Asquare84:
People that are moving out from Nigeria are low income earner and have poor thinking ability, I just gloth over my colleague in the office dude have a house in Abuja, own a cars and is doing well, all of a sudden dude sold everything and turn up his resignation letter ( with a PFA), next story he relocate to Canada. I mean I can imagine wizkid, davido will say they will leave music career and relocate to another country to start life. My advice to you is to stay in Nigeria and develop yourself, alot of people out there are suffering abroad but will never admit it.

Enemy of progress keep quiet

Stop lying. Countries don't take poor immigrants. They take the top immigrants, especially developed first world countries. Was your friend poor ? Bafoon wizkid and a davido would lose money if they moved to the west full time. Nigeria and Africa is wear they make their money.

If many abroad are suffering, then what does that say about Nigeria that has a much lower median salary and quality of life than these countries? ICC has concluded your government committed war crimes against its own citizens. Yet nobody has still been arrested. Maybe your co-worker wanted to leave this zoo ? You know not everything in life is about material things ?

rinzaugustine:
Why would you leave something that is working for you for one that is not? No country is perfect.Would you prefer to be overseas and have nothing.I have worked here in US for years now and I have not bought a single land and you are on your second house ..nawao The tempo of work is faster here than Nigeria and you might develop high blood pressure or diabetes trying to keep up.If you don’t mind , I have a brother in Enugu who is not working, can I send him to you so that you teach him the programming ..US is almost the same with Nigeria if you have income.There are good schools and hospitals In Nigeria and in many places you can stay years without hearing a gun shot.I will advice you stay in Nigeria while you visit Canada.

Who's stopping you from returning to naija ?

nathpope:
LET ME REPEAT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAID..

Move only if you have a good job waiting for you in canada..if not focus on ur tech company in naija and keep accumulating properties.

YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FOREIGNER (STRANGER) IN ANOTHER MAN'S LAND NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU ARE THERE.

Though Nigeria is NOT encouraging but be sure to have a SOLID BASE here even before moving abroad.

I love you'll always be a foreigner abroad. Serious question, what has Nigeria given you being a native ?

Focusmind:
If yours can't find success and happiness in Nigeria, mine will. They are not limited to Nigeria alone. Their success could come from any where. Moreover, they were all born in US and are citizen.

If their success resides here, so be it. If it is abroad, so be it. The summary is that I will give them the necessary support to discover their talents and where the successes and happiness lie. If you are projecting Nigeria of 2045 to be worse, then too bad. People will still live in Nigeria at that time and be fulfilled and successful

Success and happiness are not destination thing. They are personal, irrespective of your place of residence. I don't blame those that wants to leave but don't lampoon those that have equally found reason to stay. It is all about choices and we live by the choices we make.

As for your prediction that my kids will regret not leaving Nigeria, may be that is what you have envisaged for yours. Mine will have no cause to regret anything. My own father formed me to be successful anywhere, same way I shall form mine to be and the baton will continue to be passed from one generation to another.

Agreed that we have numerous issues in Nigeria, such is not peculiar to Nigeria. Happiness and personal contentment matters irrespective of where you are.

I stopped reading when you said your kids were born in the US. You've already secured one foot out of naija just in case. Guys like you I salute. Come and do your thing in naija. You have your escape. But stop forming like you have all your eggs in naija. Don't form patriotic, while making sure your kids secured American citizenship. I'm talking about those who really only have Nigeria as their only country.

optimusprime2:
Don't be too quick to conclude..

My old girl told me in the late 70s/80s when she went to school, the US Dollar was literally half of the Naira. I.e 1naira= 2USD ... Yes, Nigeria was considered a very very rich country back then.

Secondly no African felt that comfortable in the US around the 70's/ 80's because there was still an unfair atmosphere/attitude to people of African descent, the civil rights movement of MLK literally just ended...so why bother staying in a country where you were subject to racial inequality at the time when Nigeria was alot better?

Thirdly the US then was not even an attractive immigration place in the 70's/80's, not to talk of Canada lol �, old girl called Canada an expensive ice skating rink. She constantly stated that there were no jobs in Canada in the 70's so how they do now is still a mystery to her. She immediately turned down a job offer in Alaska when she graduated, her reason was "Is she crazy? to work in a "deep freezer" looking out for Polar bears every second when her country has the best weather in the world" ...

Fourthly she mentioned in the 70's if a foreigner below 18 years came to the US and stayed for about 4-5 years(which was usually the duration of a bachelors degree), he or she was eligible for citizenship, So the op is most likely saying the truth about his father especially if he went for a bachelors degree.

She concluded by saying Nigerians who ended up staying back in the US after schooling back in the 70's were probably;

1. those who were severely affected by the Biafran war and thought it best not to return

2. those who got romantically attached, I.e either got married to an American who was not approved by their family, or got pregnant and were ashamed to come back to Nigeria.

3.those who did not graduate from university especially after being funded heavily by Nigerian scholarships (a classic case of her friend who was sent to study medicine but dropped out and later switched to nursing which was considered a "nonsensical course" in Nigeria back then)

4. those who adopted "bad American habits" that were too embarrassing to return home with.

5. Those who were naturally crazy/daring, looking for adventure and independence from culture and traditions,

However most Nigerians who went to school in the US back then mostly returned because Nigeria was actually very prosperous. Jobs, welfare etc...

P.S
She said American Universities were very easy to get into as a Nigerian, because the Nigerian education system was directly equivalent to British education standards, which was far thorough and had a classic background as compared to American education standards back then.
So it was more prestigious to go to a British University than an American University/college in the 70's. Which of course were harder to get into.

I think he should state the year his dad graduated. But some are still returning now, and some are still asking if they should migrate out of Nigeria. The one's who have the means. There's a lot of truth to what you wrote. Other elders have have said the same. But I still feel it comes down to selfishness and not having the ability to plan ahead.