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I will do so when I get to site. https://zenet.co.uk/images/ade3.jpg This is what I have a problem with ? And apparently, its the latest design, one cannot stick his hands outside the window to collect something etc, because its permanently screwed on. If work needs to be done on the window for maintenance, this cannot be done from the outside, because Ade has decided to screw it on because he did not agree 1M with me, but chose to start the job... Because I forced him to start it, as Ade is the only person that does windows in Lagos.. adeekiti: |
Adeekiti You did such a shabby job just because of 50k ? Just spoke to you now before the phone cut off, you are saying you want 50K extra, my offer to you is 50k is a full and final settlement, nothing more, nothing less. Whilst I know there was a 20k balance from the 1m agreed, I am only offering you a full and final of 50k. This is an extra expense that was unbudgeted for, and like I said had you approached me that dollar has risen, and so it the prices of materials, I would understand that because truly prices have gone up, but I expected sincerity from you, Oga dollar has risen o, I will need x amount to complete the job, but dont send me a fabricated quote and think that I will accept it, I HATE that principle. If I accepted that from everyone, so how much will it cost to build a house, ONE BILLION NAIRA ? |
I didnt agree for nets to be outside wit u oo. The pictures that were sent to me were with the nets inside (Casement upstairs and even that self has a lot of inconsistencies). I guess you deliberately chose to send me that thinking that you would get away with it. I have seen over 10 houses with sliding, and no nets outside. I called you as an adult looking for solutions today, if it is out of wickedness that you did such a shabby job, God will judge you, its clear that you want to collect more money, and if money is your problem. DONT WORRY, COME AND COLLECT IT. BUT I AM NOT ACCEPTING THE MESS YOU DID (OUTSIDE FIXED NET, SO YOU HAVE DAFACED THE REFLECTIVE WINDOWS THAT YOU YOURSELF DID WITH YOUR HANDS !! adeekiti: |
If you did not agree, why did you start the work ? Or did I force you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() OR Why did you ask to be mobilised ? we would not agree a price and you will just start work for free ? IS that the change in Nigeria ? Did you think any customer reading this will be happy ? adeekiti: |
When your hassle was too much, always asking for money, money money and yet does not deliver on time, gives me story etc. I will post the 6 or so windows that Chinonso did for me. * On Budget * Delivered on the date he told me * Sliding Net May God bless him wherever he is (Amen), the reason why I dont want Chinonso to fix your mess is that, if he did and something else happened, you will claim that its because Chinonso touched it. I will post the windows that Chinonso did on this post, and it will be there for all to see. Whenever there are issues which its always common with site work, the guy gives me solutions, sometimes free, sometimes at a cost. But I always appreciate it, he keeps to his words, he doesnt mess about, he is not idle. Before you took this work, how many times did you used to call me a day ? Over 10 times, so much so that I had to call you to order and say "dont you know that I am at work". |
I dont get involved with baseless accusations, here are the facts. On the 19th of November 2015, I told you the price at which I will pay and you agreed to work on that basis. Here is the screenshot below. https://zenet.co.uk/images/ade1.jpg March 2016, you sent me a photo of a piece of paper to which you scribbled a price on it, only to claim that this is what I agreed. See below. https://zenet.co.uk/images/ade2.jpg What is always wrong with some Artisans on NL, who are always out there to take advantage of people when not on ground ? I have provided facts above, if you have anything to back up your claim, please upload it here and lets see. As per the comments you made about my Artisans, well I dont know what sort of mind you have, but let me ask you a simple question, would you keep people who steal from you ? Would you keep an artisan who parks a van on your site to cart away with materials ? Would you pay an engineer who refuses to show up on site ? Would you keep an engineer who wants to steal your materials and fails to act on simple instructions ? Would you be happy with an Artisan who wants to play a fast one on you and takes you for a fool ? Let me give you one piece of advice, I think you should focus on your work, do good job not terrible nets outside and stop worrying about my artisans. That's for me to worry about, or do you want to use paracetamol for my headache ? Had it been that you said to me that materials has gone up in the market which it has truly done so, I can relate more to that, but please dont take me for a FOOL and take a picture of a quotation and then tell me that this is what we agreed ? If thats the case, provide your evidence. https://zenet.co.uk/images/ade2.jpg You even told me that fixing nets outside is the norm, I mean WTH is that ? Do I look like a fool, even a friend of mine who was there was so disgusted with your claim that he had to send me a photo of his own sliding windows and said, nets ought to be inside. https://zenet.co.uk/images/ade3.jpg ADEEKITI BLOCKED ALL THE WINDOWS AND PUT A FIXED NET, SO THE NETS ARE OUTSIDE. HE TOLD ME THATS THE NORM NOW AND THE LATEST DESIGN. THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT NOR PAID FOR. SO PLEASE ADE, COME AND TAKE YOUR RUBBISH AND FIX IT !! https://zenet.co.uk/images/ade4.jpg Another respected engineer on NL was on site 2 days ago, he was in complete shock as well as to why you would choose to take this kind of approach. It was when we cornered you that you then changed the story and said, this is what you told me you were going to do ? Show me the proof please ?? You come here and talk like some humble person, and in reality you are not. I will see if the call is recorded and post the recording up here, so that everyone can make thier own judgement. I also have a simple question, if you knew the amount I offered was not good for you, why did you take my job ? The guy that did the stairs windows never gives me half as much hassle as you do, uses quality materials, delivers on time and doesnt come on a faceless forum to rant. Yet you wonder why I change artisans, its because of people like you !!!! I called you over 8 times 2 days ago to try to resolve the matter as an adult, what did you say ? Ade claimed that I gave someone his number and the person threatened him, he said on Gbade and I dont know anyone called Gbade.. I mean what is wrong with you Ade ? I even asked him to send me the persons number and photo, as I was just so shocked about the whole thing. Also Ade, remember I offered that we meet on site on monday, you point blank refused and SAID YOU CANNOT MEET ME THAT YOU ARE BUSY BLA BLA BLA, I EVEN SAID TOLD YOU ITS A VERY SHORT MEETING TO FIND A WAY FORWARD, YOU POINT BLANK REFUSED. YOU NOW COME HERE AND START FORMING HUMBLE.... |
Well Maybe because you have not played a fast one on them yet. You pleaded and pleaded for this job, I gave it to you and this is what it has come down to ? Tongue lashing on a faceless forum when I called you over 8 times yesterday to try and settle this matter. If this is what you want, trust me I am here for the long haul and will lay things here bare for all to see. Got nothing to hide, and God knows that I have truly been cheated big time. adeekiti: |
Ok I will tender all the facts. * Did I reduce the price ? NO. I simply payed what was agreed !! I agreed a price with you and I will upload the evidence here. * Did you doctor a quote that I have never seen before and suggested that thats what we agreed ? YES This is very unprofessional, we agreed a price only for you to take a picture of a price you wrote on a piece of paper and then claim that this is what we agreed ? * You asked me to upload pictures, I will certainly do so. Just give me some time. And it would be clear who is professional and who is trying to play a fast one on the other. * I am not going to get anyone else to fix your MESS, You did a disgusting job with the window nets and you should be the one to clean it up. Why should I get someone else to do it ? adeekiti: |
Adeekiti This is the 4th day. * My calls unanswered. * No solution yet to the messy/wrong/unacceptable net work on site. * Offered a meeting, you declined. * Offered a financial compensation despite not being what was agreed, you are telling me I gave some Gbadebo your number to threaten you on whatapp, What is really going on with you ? I dont know what you are talking about, why would I give someone your number to threaten you on whatapp !!! What is the issue with you Ade ?What on earth is going ?I am very unhappy with this development, and I hope this does not descend into a messy saga. Not that I cant bear with it, but its the fact that I know you are not this sort of person. |
That was very easy, the shape of the dormer roof gave it away sha. The bridge for 4th mainland, is that picture you posted the actual design, what are those small roundabouts ? and where are they ? I dont also see an intersection/yield or exit to link the smaller roundabouts onto the bridge ? Who do you think will be the winners and loosers if the bridge is constructed, Ikorodu is not necessarily an employment hub like VI or Lagos CBD etc. Which do you think is better ROI wise Ibeju or Ikorodu ? I guess people who live in the mainland would benefit more, but dam the traffic would be really bad. Its already bad as it is, one of my neighbors needs to leave the house @ 5AM just to get to Ikoyi. Just insane. I hope the Ajah bridge will mitigate that though, as long as danfos dont load by the bridge elevation/start. n3xt: |
This is the side of you that we like to read and hear about. #Informing #Educating #Deliver cost cutting (I have a rule whereby if a contractor can genuinely save me costs, they get a percentage of the savings) or I compensate them in one way shape or form. Its called working towards a common goal and sharing the spoils. #Be honest with your customers, if they dont listen to you. Document it and show them the alternatives. #Anyway, remember I saw a lot of potential in you circa 2012/2013, gave you my fencework to do, introduced you to 2 clients and you also started my work as well. Back to the matter, do you think that the Abraham Adesanya round about is going to be the link it looks rather small to me, anyway all the round abouts in the Lekki /Epe expressway are all flawed and rather dangerous, makes the road lanes really narrow wen you are on the roundabout, so if you are unlucky to be in the middle lane, they can jam you from either side. We have a very big roundabout, who big ROUNDABOUT EPP ?? when its not roundabout meat ![]() By the way, when I try to download the master plan from the urban development ministry website, the link is broken. Do you have a copy of the latest master plan that you can upload here or perhaps send to me. I am intrigued to see where the bridge will land, and the massive pollution it will cause for those of us around that axis. I would have seriously thought by the water side/ river / lagoon in Badore will not disturb anyone. @Brabus, do you remember the picture below ? where was it, let me see if you can remember things. Do you also remember what we talked about on that faithful day ? n3xt:
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Interesting one Brabus I though a bridge of such a magnitude would need a very huge connection to the Lekki/Epe Expressway, that area you mentioned unless one is going to have a massive roundabout or some other kind of flyover to link to the bridge, it would be hard wouldn't it. There was always talk of Badore, as in taking off from there and the sensible thing to do might be a road linking Badore from Lekki/Epe onto the bridge approach. I dont really know Badore and how built up it is, so hard to say. But around LBS/Happyland is rather narrow and too small for a bridge approach IMO. n3xt: |
Eriko. Make i clean my glasses. Am i see a casted raft at the base, coaches of block and then another casted concrete something on top of the block. I never see that one before oo. whats this called ? Designer raft ![]() erico2k2: |
With all respect. I think anyone can buy wherever they like, water, hill, sea, moon, ocean. No point in blaming or criticizing an area that someone has bought in, at the end of the day they didn't ask the person criticizing for money neither did they ask for help. The point is that if THE ENGINEER/BUILDER had done his or her job well, we will not be having this discussion. my 2 pence... agarawu23: |
10k thankfully received from Bosun Davies Shoyoye. New Balance: N180k Next payment due 30th of May 2016. mavverick: |
Nice work OP I think the following would have been useful: * which area of Lekki ? * Some info on the terrain ? * Some info on the challenges faced and your solution ? * Cost/Estimate information. * Kind/height of foundation, was it dug or the blinding done at the ground level you met. Thanks. |
I have not seen your full report but I think I have an idea on the conclusion. A quick question for you, so is stone dust not good for interlock production ? Can interlock be made months before use or better to be made just before use ? Thanks in advance Miscellaneous: |
Baba and Twins Thanks for this. agarawu23: |
House Which should be done first. Electrical fittings OR Painting internal & external. Electrical fittings: Electrician is telling me that nohow, there will be stains on the wall after they are done with the fittings and that painter can come later to do touchup. It got me thinking, if they do the fittings first, would it not be stained by the painting ? Any comments welcome. |
10k thankfully received from Bosun Davies Shoyoye. New Balance: N190k Next payment due 23rd of May 2016. mavverick: |
Hello Bosun Davies Shoyoye / Nexthome / Brabus / N3xt etc Today marks the end of the 5th week after the last payment that I received. This is in respect of the fake/forged building plan approval that you did for me. Can you kindly pay the money for this week, as there is still a balance of N200,000 outstanding. Thank you. mavverick: |
If the property is in Lagos state, I can summarize the process for you, but I have no idea about Ogun state. I can also provide you with the contact details of a very good surveyor if you still need one. |
(In Baba suwe's voice) Haji Agarawu Elias KOWOPE Dont mind some of these so called Engineers, they poke fun at Baba Lati and co, and they forget that most Baba Lati's have been building houses before they were born, so a lot of experience. Agarawu, wetin be your Oriki self, shay na Oko Amuda abi Oko Biliki ? agarawu23: |
I dont know how this will work, when even Govt officials are colluding with so called builders on fake building plans. The same Govt dont help, they claim to support development but I feel they also hinder it in their bureaucratic ways, you cant get approval without consent + layout of the area, consent takes 3 years to do, and omonile will not do layout. They had rather use the money to kill bush meat and marry wives and parade masquerades. Same material testing people, they come to your site give them something and then they will turn back, local govt too show up, settle them and they would not come again or chase them with Mopol. So you see the system is very broken. Ideally before any building goes up, it ought to be checked by a member of a trade/professional body and signed off, any sharp practices by such a person would mean they would be struck \ reprimanded and cannot practice/earn a living. Even the enforcement self, if Govt official bring police as backup, me self get access to police as they are on my payroll. God bless/help Nigeria. 4nobody4every1: |
Osaz Since you wrote the article, any chance you can cost your solution for us, with the piles around 3/4 metres apart since 6m apart is too much. Plot size is 60 x 120. Soil is typical Lekki terrain. jeftalene: |
The idea of using hydraulic jacks is probably possible in the western world, but I doubt it in Nija. * Floors are suspended wooden floors not the Nigerian concrete decking. So the weight is lighter. * Foundation is shallow, so its easy to dig underneath and suspend the building on a stilt or jack it up. Good luck trying this in Nija, even Mallam hand self may not help. * In the western world, they have such machinery. With my little construction knowledge, I think keeping water away from the foundation and perhaps underpinning with a strong mix of concrete would be one thing to look at, What they do in the western world is lift up the floor board (wood, so even me self can do it in a day), then inject concrete mix into the foundation to make the foundation stronger, this is what they call underpinning. Here, subsidence issues are mainly caused by water ingress into the foundation by say broken water pipes or vegetation growing under the building/around the foundation thereby sucking out the moisture of the soil under the foundation and causing cracks, this in turn causes the building to move as the layman calls it. |
Bosun, Please go there and check it out, remember I put please at the beginning of my sentence. I think things will just be straight forward that way, let us see the solutions you are proposing, document it and include proper pictures of the situation right now, not that of 2/3 years ago. Its the least QC1 deserves from you, remember that once upon a time the 2 of you were business partners with a common goal, you cant now turn away during the time of need. |
Sorry to hear about what happened in your site. I was lucky I came up 12 months ago when my foundation was being done, I was under the impression and asked for 5 board, yet i got 4 board. The foundation was low as they dug the ground first which my neighbor didn't do and I understand ought not to have been done. Anyway moving on But hey, I pray God gives you the strength to deal with this and find a lasting solution. Also, health is important oo, forget riches, so take it easy. You dont want to be having high BP, where the perpetrator Bosun is there making jest of you with others to prove a point, I wonder how many times he would have done same to me. Engage professionals: Forget all these internet suggestions, take the good bit and have an open mind. Let someone visit site and ascertain what needs to be done. Cost it and let them do it. It will cost you in the end, but its better to have piece of mind. I cannot start to tell you the list of things that I have fixed The atrocities committed on my site are way too much for me to be listing here, I had to grab the bull by the horn and fix them one after the other. Clearly he's not a professional nor a builder, and those people who claim he has talent (I read one today), I was just shaking my head. What a bunch of naive sympathizers, the person claiming he has huge talent, I will ask him one question (Can you give him your project to build, or why have you not given him your project to build ?). The main talent is how to defraud you, simple. The rest na just google work and neat pictures. I am counting down to 5 weeks now so that I can get the remaining of my money for the fake building plan, I have chosen to swallow the cost of fixing his mess. Let me ask everyone, do you guys think that brabus/ Bosun / Nexthome does this for the following reasons. *Greedy *Wickedness *Complete lack of knowledge on building matters *Proving a point on how good he is I would like to know, I have my own mind made up, but it would be good to know what others think. Qc1: |
Na your site be that Oga ? Clearly not a poor man oo, Poor man lives in mud houses with thatched roof. Go ask Bubu for Daura... ![]() agarawu23: |
No blame the OP Oga Think of it like this. The person fit no dey Nija Numerous tales of family members defrauding each other on top this house building thing. There are some really good contractors on NL, you will be surprised. Its just that majority of the good ones spend time actually constructing buildings rather then defending allegations, in fact the bad ones self suppose change job and work at "THE OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER". They spend way too much time defending thier bad and shoddy work. NL services (property etc) is more for people in diaspora, coz no typical nija man or woman or mixed person will come here looking for a contractor. Thats not how it works when you are on the ground. loomer: |
Thought as much as well, 6m is way too much. Just means that the blockwork might be suspect to collapse. Also, the base will they have to do just blinding and then start setting block ? When you say excavate loose sand and replace it with load bearing sand, how deep will this have to be dug up from the natural ground height, does it have to span the entire foundation area ? What kind of sand is load bearing, and will the loose soil still not be the sub soil ? how far do you go without hitting the water table ? n3xt: |
Oga Take it easy on me, I was only reading out what i found in a textbook. ![]() Lets assume the terrain is Lekki, loose soil, swampy land Also, the piles dont have to be that deep though, I would have thought. You are right to also say that they would need to be brazed or chained together to maintain strength. I would still be interested in seeing the figures if you can cost it out roughly please. Thanks. abdulwastecx: |
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