There will still be a lot of threads that i will write up, like i said the dossier is nearly done and readers on NL have not read or seen anything yet. There is still more to come.
The other day he came to me crying, i should have just told you to go and hog a transformer or drink acid self !! I dont know why i was nice to you.
Shebi, this was Egun who didnt give you any job and only has pictures that we post, mine will be coming up soon. just be on the lookout.
n3xt: And I left a prayer for you, good man and you cannot say a simple amen.
May God reward you a billion fold the way you treated me on your project. Simple enough.
I really don't want this but it seems you're just been petty and I keep wandering over what.
You think if we to go to government today, I'll be finding excuses of not been around, blah blah blah.
Need I remind you of the facts here:
1. I'm not government who stamped your drawing. So if you think it's fake, let's go mee the government. That I'm paying you is just a matter of time you'll understand not all meal should be devoured because I am giving you my sweat to eat. And oogun alaaru o ki ngbe.
2. I'm not the one who resized your building from 7 flats that you built to 4 flat that you presented despite whatever you say that I'm the one who asked you to do it. You could as well say I'm the one who asked you to put the 7th flat since I'm going to pay for it.
3. I'm not the one who built on government acquisition despite coming back to show us how night has turned into day. It's the miracle we are all familiar with. But that doesn't change the irrefutable facts that you were building on government drainage and part of the land/band is still under acquisition which led to consent failure. I didn't ask you. You just broke the news even though it doesn't concern me.
4. I've tried to make peace with you through apologies and everything and anything even though I knew the truth that you were not sincere in all your dealings. Yet you won't let go.
Na God I take beg you, leave me alone na. 5 weeks come and collect the next payment for your fake building plan approval. I won't renege on the promise.
Just let me be. Don't worry about the ground I broke and the ones I didn't.
I am surprised there is no date there, show is the date and then lets see if it was before November 2015 ? Again, clearly no common sense. I told you before that the previous survey was incorrect. Why worry about my stuff, I wonder if that Chateuu in the bush has a survey, consent or any C of O etc.
How many people have cursed you ? How many times have you slept police cell ? How many clients have been happy with your work, apart from the Chateue in the bush ? When will you start eating rice with meat again, maybe those curses have started to work. When will you turn your life around ? How many people are you owing money ? Do you sleep well like this ? No new site, just new burglary !
Clearly, you have a lot to ponder in your life, stop worrying about others.
Na Wa oo So no new ground ? Not surprising. No more diasporan money, no more 419, no more fakes. Went to Mega chicken the other day, and they have a signboard for you. For everyones benefit, this was thesame place Bosun conducts some of his meetings, with his wife in attendance. Abi na lie ?
So tell us which ground you have broken and how many more materials have you stolen ? Mr New Burglary proof, is this what you haev stooped low to now. What happened to building new structures, you have now turned to welder ?
So tell us which ground you have broken and how many more materials have you stolen ? Mr New Burglary proof, is this what you haev stooped low to now. What happened to building new structures, you have now turned to welder ?
The Survey that was done before was not correct and i must have misunderstood the process, so Surveyor Folarin did another one so as to progress the consent application. See below So to show your low brain IQ. how would I process my consent below if my survey plan is faulty ? Do you think Lagos state government are like BOSUN SHOYOYE DAVIES ? Look at the date on the email, look at the date on the consent letter.
I dont think i should be taking you seriously sha.
n3xt: Anyway, here's answer to your question above.
You wanted black and white.
1. You were never clear about anything. This explains why I have almost 4 different drawings for one single building all within 3 months.
a. 6 flats on 3 floors with ground floor as parking space
b. 6 flats on 2 floors
c. 4 flats
d. 7 flats on 3 floors.
You never mentioned to me you wanted fake until the cost of doing 6 flats was mentioned to you and you wanted to reduce cost by all means. The same way you never mentioned building 7 flats to me until after the foundation work and we are nearly completing the ground floor. This cancels your initial claim that you were never carried along in the whole transaction. That you just saw calculation and no papers. Even the screenshot you posted shows there were initial discussions.
The speed at which the 4 flats drawing was done by your architect tells a lot of about your interest. But who am I to say anything to you when you're not my baby.
2. The same way you never mentioned to me that you were building on government acquisition area until there's trouble with your consent application and making me to feel like you had one. Did I made that up too?
Sorry about the false statements, it is what you made me to understand that I was actually putting out there.
We stopped playing the ball since last year bro.
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For the records, I didn't do your fake plan presented and submitted to the government. You and Your Architect did. #Fact
Excuses for everything, just what i expected. What are we saying, and what are you talking about. You have failed to answer my questions, who typed the messages about the need to reduce the number of dwellings. Like i said to you, you have been cursed and will continue to remain so, hence why you have not made progress in your life so far. You spend your whole day here on NL talking nonsense where your peers are building houses and making a living, you are busy doing fake building plans ! Anyway, next installment in 5 weeks !!
n3xt: Anyway, here's answer to your question above.
You wanted black and white.
1. You were never clear about anything. This explains why I have almost 4 different drawings for one single building all within 3 months.
a. 6 flats on 3 floors with ground floor as parking space
b. 6 flats on 2 floors
c. 4 flats
d. 7 flats on 3 floors.
WTF, what has this got to do with the issue being discussed , answer my questions I asked you before, was it Shoyoye Senior or Junior who provided me with fake building plan or collected money for it ?
You never mentioned to me you wanted fake until the cost of doing 6 flats was mentioned to you and you wanted to reduce cost by all means. The same way you never mentioned building 7 flats to me until after the foundation work and we are nearly completing the ground floor. This cancels your initial claim that you were never carried along in the whole transaction. That you just saw calculation and no papers. Even the screenshot you posted shows there were initial discussions.
I told you it must be original, the screenshot for that is coming up shortly. I will dig this up again. If its orignal, why are you refunding me back my money ?
The speed at which the 4 flats drawing was done by your architect tells a lot of about your interest. But who am I to say anything to you when you're not my baby.
2. The same way you never mentioned to me that you were building on government acquisition area until there's trouble with your consent application and making me to feel like you had one. Did I made that up too?
Consent is ready for approval, consent fee paid. Who built in a government acquired area ? maybe you are confusing this with the Chateau in the bush with no address.
Sorry about the false statements, it is what you made me to understand that I was actually putting out there.
We stopped playing the ball since last year bro.
Have you changed your life around since last year, sadly NOT. Still thesame old, and it will only get WORSE for you.
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For the records, I didn't do your fake plan presented and submitted to the government. You and Your Architect did. #Fact
Biggest joke, who handed over fake building plan approval to me, who collected the money without any receipt, who solicited for it ? Why are you refunding me back, if its not fake. You ought to have shown it ?
Did I mention anything about the fake building plan or the reduction in the flats before ? [size=18pt]NO[/size] Did you lie that it was my idea ? [size=18pt]YES[/size]
When are you going to realise that people in glass houses should not be throwing stones ? I will need you to quote yourself and correct the false statement you made, I like to be straightforward in my dealings, call white, white and call black, BLACK.
So the ball is in your court now.
n3xt: @ mavverick, na God I take beg you. Pls let this approval story slide Abeg. I'm paying you back already which means I accept all you have to say.
You've made your point here already.
Thanks.
___________ Meanwhile, I'm inviting you to pitch for the Safe and Secure Burglar Proof Design Contest. It'll be all fun.
Bosun Davies Shoyoye obviously had his plan in mind, this was the same person who started the idea of the fake building plan, and I was always suspicious hence why I said it was going to be on him, and when I discovered it was fake, this is the reason why he is refunding me back my money (Over 400k) on a weekly basis, paying 10k every week.
Here are the facts, so is it your twin that typed the below or Shoyoye Senior or Junior ?
See it here again, the irony is that he would send the approval people to come to disturb on site, so as to get me to sign up for the fake approval despite him assuring me that its genuine (its not worth the paper its written on), as soon as he collected the money for the fake approval, everything just seemed to stop !
When you are 5,000 miles away from site, what can you do ? You would think that you can trust your Quack Engineer right ? Some of us in Diaspora have suffered in the hands of Engineer oo
n3xt: The only thing fake here is the person who presented a drawing of 4 flat to government as 7 flats.
Good point. A friend of mine with a house at cooperative villa told me he used wooden flooring. Even for the staircase he said. I have not seen it but this is what he told me. He said the wood used for the stairs was sourced in nija and then treated. He did import the remaining wood flooring.
Wood would also be a challenge with the way we fit doors. With tiles sharp sand and cement can be used to raise the level of the floor etc.
erico2k2: This is why I insisted, the greatest challenge is sand.Our streets are not paved, sand will grind it, the smallest particles would form grinder. My room floor 4 years now
When are we going to start discussing what is actually feasible and economical to implement in the construction/building related industry rather than some fanciful ideas borne out of google ? As in, new design principles or new products that have actually been successfully implemented (Light weight parapet from Abdulwastec springs to mind) OR Do I get the feeling that every now and then when reputation gets bashed (dodgy builder, no positive news apart from castle in the bush), we start our google search again to try to remain relevant or gain new following.
Laminates do degrade over time, if furniture is dragged on it, water damage as well or if something heavy drops on it and it has a gouge. With proper wood flooring, every couple of years, you can sand it and lacquer it. Another lease of life without actually replacing the whole thing. What I do not get is that despite the abundance of wood we have in nija, why dont we make proper wood flooring ?
Maybe it's thrash info. That has little or no value. Meanwhile, where is the Egun thread on how to select a builder? I wonder if it has any new stuff on it. I wonder if Bosun Shoyoye has come to DOBALE / prostrate for egun
lastpage: What makes this Burglar proof SPECIAL and DIFFERENT from what other have done or have been doing?
What are your / (should be our) YARDSTICK for judging it and saying "this is SPECIAL"?
Is it just because it is "openable"? How does it open?
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BTW: I now intend to add more colors to my post! I am reliably informed that some have decided to hug Nepa Transformer, just because of that!
I just laugh. It was actually his idea, he came up with it and I will provide evidence. how many builders are sleeping on on NL instead of actually building houses. How many times do our see sege, skimanski, spyder spend the amount for time you spend here talking rubbish or hailing the chateau in the bush. They are busy doing good things for themselves, did I make the mistake of calling bosun a builder ? Lol
The other day egun molested him, he came to me crying for help. Egun molestation is just the beginning. My dossier is nearly complete.
back2sender: But you have a right to say No. You wanted to help or impress and thats why this became a problem. There are times one has to say No
For rentals, it makes no difference IMO. Sentimental thinking, I can see why people who can afford it might choose to have one installed.
I have one question for the house, does the rain water collection help with a situation where wind is blowing water towards the external walls or this makes no difference. Just a thought.
danowena: I don't know if this issue has been addressed, pardon me if it has. Of what use is the water collector on the roof aside from aesthetics? I live in a house with one and still do not see the essence when it rains. It prevents the heavy flow from hitting the ground directly? When it's not as if the water is channelled to a tank or container for future use. The water still gets to the ground anyway . Is it wise to use it on a rental property? Does it add any rental value?
Oga with all due respect. Where did you see quarrel. In as much as I like to ask questions, for my benefit and or the benefit of others. I don't have any problems on my site that I need his input, Is it by force to have a problem ?
The only problem I can think of is that of the fake building approval, and after the next 5 weeks, the question I have for him is when the next payment Will be due, I don't mean payment due on Monday being paid on Wednesday !!
skimanski: This is what im saying oga mavverick. there is no need to quArell. you never cAN tell When you'll need brabus in the nearest future. He can propose a lot of problem sOlving ideas for you.
Such a funny guy when was the last time I asked you any question ? The other day I posted a question here, you challanged me why I didn't ask you after abdulwastec answered the question. I guess its some kind of jealousy.
when I ask you questions, it should be seen as some kind of blessing. After all I gave you how many clients and how many of them are you in good terms with today or have good things to say about the work you did ? I rest my case ..
n3xt: Hmm! What have you changed exactly that's new to me? The foundation that we did? The fence that we raised? Or what exactly? Maybe you tell me those things that were done In your house that we didn't discuss.
Or maybe you think the flood will affect the roof, the floor tiles and the Windows?
My good friend at arm length. Is it me that's hurting bro or you that won't let me sleep here and on whatsapp despite my silent treatment?
Abeg, park well jor. Who double standard epp?
I'll remind you of your words when next you call 911 for help again. Meanwhile I won't stop doing the right thing even if it seems like I should shut you off. I believe in "Adabi to ja j'ogun lo"
Brabus ________ How about Lekki II? It's 4 years on now. Any issues with the fence?
So predictable Just what I expected you to do, like I said during the downpour I had no issues with flooding at all. Did my neighbours have issues, the answer is yes.
its nearly a year since we parted ways and trust me a lot has changed in one year. Next time it rains remind me to send you a photo. The chat was intended to serve the purpose which it has and it just proves that as usual you are still hurting
if I ever had issue on site, is it you I will be asking ? SMH
n3xt: This is attention seeking in the attached chat msg. Living a double standard. Your piece above will make a good point without necessarily attaching the first paragraph.
Maybe you want to share how effective Sandfilling at the right time helped you secure your structures built by NextHome despite building below flood level and less than 1.5m from government canal.
And some people will sit down there taking solace in your comforting words while you're busing fixing your own build behind the clouds. SMH!
I think this overemphasizing on floods is just being used by one particular person to divert attention away from himself (reminds me of the lekki gardens stuff as well, and how he was the chief investigator /spokesman), build sensible drainage and maintain it well and floods will be drastically reduced. Both internally in ones house and also in the community i.e roads, not building on flood plains or drainage channels etc.
Even in developed Western Europe, they have floods that wipes away a whole community, usually caused by heavy rainfall and properties close to waterways or in flood plains.
Abdulwastec, pls explain what you mean by basement, basement to me is like an underground space, usually below the road level. What it sounds as though you are referring to is to build a house on like what I call loads of Pillars or whatever technical term you guys call it, mainly used in commercial builds whereby the ground floor is like the parking space. Please confirm.
My pictures below is trying to explain what I mean. I quite like the idea of building on pillars, but will the entire groundfloor be only pillars or can it have some living space like servant quarters there etc / gym / swimming pool etc. How can the space be better used, and reduce the risk of flooding, just building a house with pillars on the entire groundfloor is somewhat boring IMO and would be an architectural eyesore especially in a residential build (imagine like 50 pillars)
abdulwastecx: You have a good point sir... But you are still talking about the causes.
Let look at for an individual developer planning to build a house in this high prone area, what method of construction would you advice to save the building during time high flooding ?
I would suggest that all building in this area should come with a basement, where the ground floor serve as car garage and the first living space is raised at least 3m above the Natural ground level. During flooding period, nothing will happen with your properties inside the house.
The ground floor with only columns will support the first living space. These columns will be designed as unbraced column, with water resistance paint to protect them against constant contact with water.
That ilaje Mobil road, is that not the road by ikota villa first gate and leads into scheme 2 via mobile estate and resettlement area ? Even on a normal day, why would there not be flood issues, I am sure you have seen that resettlement scheme area, people literally build shanty houses on drainage/gutter. Literally no where for the water to go. I drove pass one day trying to avoid vgc traffic, I was terrified was an understatement. You even pay road tax to pass that short cut self, in the end it took almost an hour to get to Abraham Adesanya from mega chicken. Fair enough we miss road small inside scheme 2.
n3xt: To the pros! It's fair to normally take the road level as reference point when building a foundation. What happens in a situation where the road itself gets below the water level during a continuous downpour and the house gets flooded?
Here are videos from Badore and Ilaje area of Ajah 30 hours after yesterday's downpour. The worst hit is Abraham Adesanya area with flood level hitting almost 3ft high.
Well you have a point Haji I was just shocked with adeekiti, he's the last person I would have thought I would have a quarrel with. I met him once, was supposed to be twice. We do talk on a different level like brothers and I appreciate it, he does advice me and all. I just felt that when things didnt work out, he ought to come out to me like a brother. That was all. Even my bros that also knows Adeekiti and was there that faithful Sunday was just as shocked. But i don Sabi Ade, I don Sabi am be that.
Thanks Haji once more for settling things.
mufutau55: But at least we turned AdeEkiti thing to good story... and was amicably settled with satisfactory result. He is cleaned. That, I am glad.
With some others... you just have to leverage the bad with the good... and in the end things will work itself out. It is well IJN.
Very interesting read up, but I think you should mention the name of the builder or engineer (EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THE PERSON ALREADY, HE SOMETIMES WEARS GLASSES AND APPARENTLY ONLY HIM IS ALLOWED TO VISIT A PARTICULAR STONE COATED ROOFING COMPANY ). Those of us in Diaspora have suffered in the hands of engineer on NL oo.
Personally, I have had too many bad experience.
* Brabus * AdeEkiti * Another Big Engineer on NL Big ko, smalls ni !!
Thats making 3 people now, all of which ended with a bad taste in my mouth. Haji knows the full story of all 3 of them, bless him. Haji has heard all these negative stories so many times. Haji, how may good stories have you heard about Artisans on NL ?, I only told you about one and even that one self, he has his own headache but still a correct guy, just some of his workers are funny.
FastShipping: God bless you for this write-up. Brabus needs to exercise humility. He doesn't know when to shut-up or when to profusely apologize.
Let me tell you a story here. Hajj aware of this and I believe I showed what transpired to Skimanski and few others on blackberry.
Last year I gave my house roofing work to a nairalander. A quack for that matter who claimed to me he was an engineer. He gave me a quote and I paid him in full. I always pay in full upfront. He was supposed to start the work on a Monday but to my surprise he didn't start the work for more than two weeks from the day he was supposed to start. Then the next thing I saw was for the guy to start buying new clothing and displaying his pictures on nairaland. Designer shoes, shirts, trousers and watches. I said to myself wft! I called him several times and his phone was transferring me to different phone. When I eventually spoke to him, he told me he was working on a project at Ajah. I said but you were to start this work since last week.
He eventually bought wood and brought his workers to site after about two weeks. Three days into the work, he sent me a text that the house was bigger than he thought that he needed to make a new quote because they needed more materials. I said this has to be a joke. He sent a new quote and I sent him payment. Hajj was aware. Nothing I do that I don't let Hajj know in regard to my house.
Three weeks into the job, I sent my mum and brother to the site and there was rancor going on there. People who supplied things to the site coming there to curse at my site because my roofer owed them thousands of naira. He owes his carpenters money for over a week and hasn't been showing up. Carpenters were coming to the site but not working because he owed them one week pay. I didn't know that each day I call that he picked up he wasn't at the site. He always said he was eating close by or buying something in the neighborhood. After a month on the roof carcass, he called me that my cousin at the site has been tormenting him. I said how has he been tormenting you. He said the quote he gave me second time was at the insistence of my cousin. He said my cousin said I don't ask questions that I just agree with any quote people give me as long as the work is done right. I said wow. So I told the nairalander that you are a criminal. You agreed to lie to me that the quote was not good enough and I agreed to pay you extra. I said why are you telling me this now? He said the work at the site is a big problem for him that I should call my cousin to return the money he gave to my cousin so he can use the money to buy more nails and wood because materials turned out to be insufficient. At this point I was on the verge on sending him 1.8M Naira for Metcoppo Aluminum sheet quote he gave me to cover the carcass. I quickly told my brother not to transfer the money to him. I quickly called Hajj and called the nairalander quack "engineer" on three way call. To my surprise the guy was defiant on the phone. I couldn't believe it. He was talking as if he was doing me a favor to let me know what was going on at the site.
When I discovered he couldn't be trusted, I contacted Tower and First Aluminum. I woke up 6am U.S time and called those companies. They asked I send them emails. Tower and First Aluminum went to my site and met this nairalander and my cousin. To my surprise, they told those Tower guys to over quote for the roof coverings and give them their shares. The Tower guys said that's not going to happen. When Tower and First Aluminum guys got back to me, they told me the entire roof needed to be torn down because the carcass was not done right. I called the so called nairalander who claimed to be an engineer and told him what those guys had just told me. The next thing the quack engineer from nairaland did was to engage into fight and insult of the First Aluminum guys who were at the site. He told them they wanted to destroy his life. My brother and mother were present to see everything. I called the nairalander quack "engineer" to leave the site immediately. Not only did he commit fraud, he also asked me to do some things that were not needed to be done there that the whole carcass and other mistakes he made on reconstruction of my house cost me in the region of extra 480K+ because we had to tear down everything and start from scratch again. I was sending him pictures of house as the entire 579 square meter roof was torn down. As the carcass was going on, he called me gables needed to be done at the back and I told him no. My cousin called me and said gable was needed. I sent them 225K for gables and it tuned out the gable wasn't needed because the First Aluminum guys dismantled it during the tear down of roof carcass.
My point is, the nairalander accepted his was quack. He confessed to me he was only looking to feed his family. He has been a nairalnder since 2008 or so. As a matter of fact he begged me not to go public because his source of living would be dashed because it is on nairaland that he eats. In fact his wife is on nairaland too. He told me a whole bunch of things that I just pitied him and never opened a thread about him on nairaland. The guy never stopped begging me for more than two months. He kept apologizing.
Hajj is a witness. I believe I showed it to Skimanski too on BBM and segzy14 was there too. The guy never stopped texting me to apologize. He is still here on nairaland parading himself as an engineer and builder. I just shake my head when he comes on threads accusing others of incompetence.
If I were to take another view on it. Personal house that i want to live in, I would only have a single one for the whole house or NOT have it at all.
Rental house, individual one might be better considering the Nigerian effect. Here, blocks of flats over 100 share a single industrial heater, its not only hot water self, it is also used for heating. Then the flats have a conventional small heater as a backup, just in case the central one fails. When I last lived in such apartments, I dont recall a downtime in over 5 years, regular service YES but no total downtime on central heating.
rotecch77: Yes boss, there is the central water heating system that is been installed outside the building and it's serves all sections of the building. It is available here in nigeria. In using the central heating system, provisions for it has to be made right from the building plan. So as to know where and where it will be channeled to. It does use electricity and it saves money. In 150, 200, 300 litres. People prefer the single ones( 10, 15,30 litres) because of individuality,
At endia samy you are right.but the problem I see with central water heater is that ones it has fault it means the whole building will not have hot water ,that is why I prefer individual heater for each toilet or 2 toilet to share 1 heater, where we have about 4 toilet so the whole house will not have shortage of hot water if one develop problem and at time it take some days in most home to rectify fault.more so as some said that Nigeria don't need much hot water ,to me, we are much used to the weather conditions here when its amathan almost every body here in Nigeria wioo like to use hot water even when in raning season more so in some part of Nigeria when woman gibe bath to new born baby they most use hot water to massage there body ,make tea etc
I trust you are good. I would like to ask you some questions, if you were to build 2 bed flats again, lets say in Ajiwe area of Ajah. What would you include and what would you exclude ?
I thought En-suite was more of a standard these days, I know someone who has a block of flats around Isheri Olofin, no tiles and only 1 central toilet/bathroom. I hear to rent is difficult now because tenants expect tiling and also 2 toilets at least.
gabbytabby: At a level I do understand most are building and also intend to live in a part of it so they do want to make it aesthetically pleasing for them but the internals for rentals do not have to be to the same standard as yours. We end up building for ourselves. My first build all the 2 beds has 3 toilet totally unecassary. The feasibility was based on 450k for each unit. We are only able to acheive that in year 6.