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Jozzy4:
You are a big liar for saying Jesus statement only refer to roman destruction of Jerusalem. Christ made that statement in verse 34, mr Read from 29-31 , Has those things occur as well ?

I deliberately Underlined the point " Till ALL these things be fulfilled "

Is verse 29-31 not part of the ALL these things ?

Janosky:
Any JW who choose to "chop & clean mouth" ,so to speak, is simply deceiving him/her self.
Nobody can mock Jehovah's standards Galatians 6:7.

JWs discipline unrepentant ones , you know that very well (1 Cor 5:1-13), unlike the iniquity being covered up by your Pastorpreneurs you pay membership fees to..
that one the wife divorced, till tomorrow none of una get liver ask am to proof his innocence to the former wife's allegations against him....
(Prophet Nathan no call David to account for his sin ?)
The guy man still maintains official business policy of separation of his junior pastorpreneurs from their wives and family, dey carry on him side attraction,nothing mega...
Yet una get "Independent thinking".... Bunch of slaves in bondage !!

baysol:
All are figment as none of what you said was true. Jesus coming cannot be predicted by anyone. Neither was. It predicted for 1914. Read your Bible and meditate on it daily and wisdom will come. Don't depend too much on pastors and false prophets who only preach sensationality to force money out of your pocket. Only for the wise.

Maximus69:
So if you're truthfully not a seeker of signs and wonders, then you need to focus on the overall performance of each group claiming Christians!

Jesus said BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL KNOW THEM, because PEOPLE DON'T GATHER GRAPES FROM THORNS NOR FIGS FROM THISTLES, A GOOD TREE WILL NOT BEAR ROTTEN FRUIT NEITHER WILL A BAD TREE BEAR FINE FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18

Instead of concentrating on reports that never occurred in your own time, you should be more concerned about what you're SEEING with your own eyes! Matthew 5:14-16

Maximus69:
Well the records were to keep everything well DOCUMENTED as God's people always do in times past, that's how we have the Bible today!
As for the house to house evangelizing work, if you feel others are doing the same it's OK, i'm sure people out there know those coming to visit them UNINVITED IN THEIR HOMES in God's name! Romans 10:13-15 compared to Malachi 3:16-18

We are also making technological advancements but we must TEACH by examples {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} this means as teachers of God's word our students need to learn by watching and imitating us in doing God's will! Hebrew 13:7

Progressive understanding of God's word shouldn't be taken as a crime, yet there must be a distinction between God's people and unbelievers.
Whenever i hear people complain about Jehovah's Witnesses and their prophecies i just pity them , because Jesus said "NO SIGN WILL BE GIVEN TO THIS GENERATION EXCEPT THE SIGN OF JONAH" Matthew 16:4

Jesus repeated this same statement more than three times!
So i carefully studied the story of Jonah. This prophet was sent to deliver a message of doom on Nineveh, he first ran away but after spending three day in the belly of a whale Jonah returned to deliver the message but what Jonah prophesy didn't happen until much later WHEN JONAH THE PROPHET IS NO MORE!
Jehovah's Witnesses declared dates yet thousands are getting baptized as their members on yearly bases, so the question that comes to my mind is "if these people's prophecy had come in an earlier DATE, what would have happened to millions who later join them in zealously preaching and teaching globally now be?"

The Bible book of Jonah ended with JEHOVAH'S question saying "how do you expect me to bring the destruction upon this people in the DATE I TOLD YOU after seeing the way they repented?"

My conclusion: The DATES may be real and may not but one thing is sure, God's Kingdom is coming just as Jesus proclaimed almost 2000 years ago, and Jehovah's Witnesses have successfully gathered OBEDIENT, PEACE LOVING, FAITHFUL, MILD TEMPERED, GENTLE, and EVER JOYFUL people from different races all over the earth in anticipation of that Kingdom, whereas all the other religions are thinking they're all going to heaven! Psalms 37:7-11, 29 compared to Proverbs 2:20-22

God bless you Sir!

Maximus69:
(1) You've rightly defined the TRUTH by saying "it shouldn't have versions", meaning all those claiming they have the TRUTH must be in agreement! Where you missed it slightly is the PROGRESSIVE understanding of God's word, Jesus said God's word is TRUTH{John 17:17}, No generation of God's servants is equal in the understanding of his words and purposes with their predecessors! At Exodus 6:2-3, God told Moses "I dealt with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but they never knew me by my name". Of course Abraham, Isaac and Jacob knew God's name but it's his purposes that they never understood as what he is about to display with Moses!
Before Christianity came God told Daniel (a faithful prophet) that the prophesy he is penning down is NOT FOR HIS GENERATION to understand so Daniel shouldn't bother to peer into such deep things! Daniel 12:8-13

Please are all these people worshiping the same God? Then how come they aren't expected to have the same understanding?

In the first century this same Jesus said something in the presence of his 12 Apostles, what he said was misunderstood by all the first century Christians, most people believed that Apostle John will not die until Jesus return {John 21:20-23} surely this misconception came from the Apostles who were the ONLY ones present when Jesus made this statement. It was at 98 ad after John had written the Bible book of Revelation that God's holy spirit directed him to pen down his own gospel account so that he could use that medium to correct the misconception.
Jesus uttered that statement around 33 ad and the correction came around 98 ad, now how many do you think would have carried that wrong idea to their graves?

(2) You rightly quoted a verse that's noteworthy!
(Matthew 24:45) Here the faithful and discrete slave is to continue giving Jesus' domestics their portion of food AT THE PROPER TIME! So what should be expected if you're feeding your domestics properly? Definitely they should be well fed and performing their normal duties!
I think the Watchtower's performance in this respect is excellent considering the manner adherents are zealously, industriously and joyously preaching and teaching people in their neighborhood the message of God's Kingdom globally!

(3) I told you initially that Charles and his team never got the clear picture of what will happen in 1914, but world war 1 is enough evidence that something happened in heaven that year! {Revelations 12:7-12} So Charles and his team surely saw something coming in 1914 through their thorough research, just as watchmen on the Watchtower will see something coming in the dark but they never got the clear picture!

(4)Charles never intended forming another religion, all he was doing back then was to find the one and only true Christian group and work with them. But since most religion back then are not ready for PROGRESSIVE understanding of God's purposes, Charles and few other men came together and continue on their research, until what we now have today. That's i told you that Jehovah's Witnesses have that heritage of PROGRESSIVE understanding so don't expect us to be stagnant in anything but LOVE! 1Corinthians 13:1-13

(5) Hmmmmmmmmm please you've been asking questions like a sincere observer, don't mix things up by turning around to deceit!
We are talking of a group known for their house to house evangelizing GLOBALLY, you and i know that if you ask people from all the parts of the earth regarding this, the only answer we will get consistently is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Janosky:
*Matthew 24:3-34
3
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of
Olives, the disciples came to him privately.
"Tell us," they said, "when will this happen,
and what will be the sign of your coming
and of the end of the age?"
4
Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one
deceives you.
5
For many will come in my name, claiming,
`I am the Christ, and will deceive
many.
6
You will hear of wars and rumors of wars,
but see to it that you are not alarmed.
Such things must happen, but the end is
still to come.
7
Nation will rise against nation, and
kingdom against kingdom. There will be
famines and earthquakes in various
places.
8
All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9
"Then you will be handed over to be
persecuted and put to death, and you will
be hated by all nations because of me.
10
At that time many will turn away from the
faith and will betray and hate each other,
11
and many false prophets will appear and
deceive many people.
12
Because of the increase of wickedness, the
love of most will grow cold,
13
but he who stands firm to the end will be
saved.
14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be
preached in the whole world as a
testimony to all nations, and then the end
will come.
15
"So when you see standing in the holy
place `the abomination that causes
desolation,' spoken of through the
prophet Daniel--let the reader
understand--
16
then let those who are in Judea flee to the
mountains.
17
Let no one on the roof of his house go
down to take anything out of the house.
18
Let no one in the field go back to get his
cloak.
19
How dreadful it will be in those days for
pregnant women and nursing mothers!
20
Pray that your flight will not take place in
winter or on the Sabbath.
21
For then there will be great distress,
unequaled from the beginning of the world
until now--and never to be equaled again.
22
If those days had not been cut short, no
one would survive, but for the sake of the
elect those days will be shortened.
23
At that time if anyone says to you, `Look,
here is the Christ!' or, `There he is!' do not
believe it.
24
For false Christs and false prophets will
appear and perform great signs and
miracles to deceive even the elect--if that
were possible.
25
See, I have told you ahead of time.
26
"So if anyone tells you, `There he is, out in
the desert,' do not go out; or, `Here he is,
in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
27
For as lightning that comes from the east
is visible even in the west, so will be the
coming of the Son of Man.
28
Wherever there is a carcass, there the
vultures will gather.
29
"Immediately after the distress of those
days "`the sun will be darkened, and the
moon will not give its light; the stars will
fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies
will be shaken.'
30
"At that time the sign of the Son of Man
will appear in the sky, and all the nations
of the earth will mourn. They will see the
Son of Man coming on the clouds of the
sky, with power and great glory.
31
And he will send his angels with a loud
trumpet call, and they will gather his elect
from the four winds, from one end of the
heavens to the other.
32
"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As
soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves
come out, you know that summer is near.
33
Even so, when you see all these things,
you know that it is near, right at the door.
34
I tell you the truth, this generation will
certainly not pass away until all these
things have happened."

**## Maximum impact of FALSEHOOD,
where you copy that lie wey you no want give credit to the original poster?
Matt24:3-34, Jesus Christ said "this generation" will certainly not pass away until ALL these things have happened."
**Jesus means the generation that saw ALL THE EVENTS OF VERSES 3 to 34.
No generation at any time has seen the fulfilment of verses 14,27-31.
STOP LYING .

Janosky:
All the stuff you wrote equally applied to Jesus disciples who were following him before Jesus ascension.

Your 1 to 4, Luke 19:11, Jesus disciples said "the kingdom of God will appear IMMEDIATELY",
Bros, this is 2019, deal with it.

## John16:16-18 & Luke 24:44,45 EXPOSES YOUR SHALLOW UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

In Your 5, Maximum impact, make you talk true. Since you were born,have you ever seen these groups preaching house to house in your neighborhood?


• "Bible Studies Fellowship, headquarters in San Diego, Ca.
• Bible Way Publications, Ft. Lauderdale, Fl.
• Christian Millennial Fellowship, Hartford, Conn. Publishes the New Creation magazine.
• Christian Renewal Ministry, Saratoga, Ca.
• Church of God of Abraham, Wenatchee, Wa. Publishes Notes for Bible Students newsletter
• Dawn Bible Students, East Rutherford, N.J. One of the original splinter groups formed after Joseph Rutherford became president."

** This your No 5 LIE Na "eleyi gidi gaan".
You copy and paste FALSEHOOD.

Maximus69:
(1)Since those leading the Watchtower family have declared themselves as NOT inspired, all members of the organization needs thorough explanation from them to support any NEW development {Act 17:11} of course members will obediently submit to the new development and critics will become worrisome! Act 17:13

(2) The generation truthfully experience that invasion, but Jesus mentioned some things that NEVER happened back then {Matthew 24:29-31}, by the time Romans invaded Jerusalem and afterwards, there was nothing like ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH MOURNING because the Christians have not taken the good news to ALL THE NATIONS!
And Jesus also added that his angels will gather all his anointed ones from one end of the earth to another!
That is why this case needed extra care to handle otherwise those trying to keep God's word may loose interest completely since it seems as if God has no more business with humans on earth! READ Matthew 24:29

(3) The 1914 issue surely made a history, because the Bible students (as Jehovah's Witnesses were called back then) kept saying something will happen that year. Granted they never got the picture completely, but something actually marked the result of their research as WAR broke out on earth "WORLD WAR 1".
Most of those who knew Jehovah's Witnesses back then rushed into the organization, expecting more signs to come from them.
The Bible students said God's Kingdom will come in 1914 and take them all to heaven. Not knowing that God's Kingdom will ONLY BEGIN OPERATION IN HEAVEN and drive Satan and his demons away from there!
This event lead to world war 1 as those demons angrily came down and possessed so many people including politicians, that's why most of them became so filled with arrogance to the point everyone is feeling superior hence the WORLD WAR.
ONLY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES SAW THIS COMING IN 1914!

(4) Adding to God's word differs from finding it's meaning! It's the additions that's causing confusion globally in all the religions claiming Christians, instead of them to come together to resolve what's causing the division (which is the added doctrines) these religionists concluded that they're all DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS of the same religion.
Well that's one thing God's people will never accept!

(5)Jehovah's Witnesses are globally known for their house to house evangelizing, and the good it has done for Christ?
Well let's consider few points!
©All those claiming Christians within the organization have buried all racial prejudice making Jehovah's Witnesses living next to me "my brothers and sisters" no matter where they may come from! Matthew 12:46-50 compared to Malachi 3:16
©They have disarmed all members (NONE OF THEM GOES FOR MILITARY SERVICES) so that no JW can think of killing his neighbour for any reason whatsoever! Matthew 26:52
©They have united all people from different races under the heavens even including world class racist nations, and throughout the earth now Jehovah's Witnesses are a happy family of PEACE loving worshippers! John 17:20-23 compared to Isaiah 2:1-4, Micah 4:1-3
©They have eradicated polygamy from their midst, so whoever is contemplating joining them must seriously consider sticking to his/her marital vows! Matthew 19:3-9
©They have adopted Christ's preaching and teaching method that's designed not to irritate, harass or annoy pedestrians in their neighborhood, as they respectfully visit people IN THEIR HOMES instead of indiscriminately CURSING people for not been members of their religion {Matthew 12:19}, while others will just start making noise in the streets or public buses, Jehovah's Witnesses will ask for your permission before discussing with you! Matthew 10:11-15
©They succeeded in discouraging their members from partaking in POLITICS {John 6:15} so that no member gets involved in Satan's system of Government! Luke 4:6-7 compared to John 14:30, 2Corinthians 4:4, 1John 5:19
©They have turned all their youths to simple and easygoing citizens, so that when you here of protest anywhere you can't even imagine a member of Jehovah's Witnesses in such act. Romans 13:1-7

(6) Most people will surely accuse the chieftains of other families saying "they are lying to their family members" but Apostle Paul made it clear by listing the the NINE qualities of God's holy spirit adding that whenever you find such in any organization, there is NO law against them! Galatians 5:22-23
Jehovah's Witnesses have succeeded in planting LOVE, JOY and PEACE in the midst of those adhering to their teachings, James (Jesus' half brother) said "once you're seeing faith working what is fine, whatever you're saying against them could only make sense if you can present a better performing group! James 2:18-26

Finally Jesus said "People can't gather grapes from thorns nor figs from thistles" {Matthew 7:16} adding "every good tree produces fine fruit and rotten trees produces worthless fruits"

That's why Jehovah's Witnesses kept saying "OUR FRUIT (overall conduct of members globally) IS SPEAKING FOR US" Matthew 7:15,20

God bless you Sir!

Jozzy4:
While some faithful followers of Jesus were humble enough to Realize Jesus can never be wrong which motivate them to adjust their view , some clueless ones are criticizing


I will take you serious if you can present a better explanation of Jesus statement concerning this generation .. Can you ?

Or did Jesus Lie ?

Maximus69:
The bunch of Americans who claims to be the faithful and discrete slave in 1914 are no more on earth today!

Well Jesus claimed so many things about his relationship with the Almighty God! John 10:30

The Jews objected vehemently to so many things he said majority of his followers even deserted him{John 6:64-66}, they planned to kill Jesus and they succeeded, but what the scriptures promised that will occur in connection with those whom the Messiah will given the power of God's holy spirit {Joel 2:28} was evident when the Christians began operating!

Jesus was NO MORE PHYSICALLY operating with them, but nobody can deny (with what was happening through the ministry of the Christians) that their claim that Jesus has been raised from the dead was a lie! Act 3:12-16

Today those Americans who claimed that Jesus came INVISIBLY and chose them as the faithful and discrete slave are NO MORE PHYSICALLY operating with Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide. But let's compare the two scenarios!

The Jews who denied that Jesus can't be the promised Messiah(Christ), their descendants are still hoping that another prophet will come as the Christ, their own scriptures is just the 39 books from Genesis to Malachi. Whereas throughout the earth, billions of Bibles (Complete from Genesis to Revelations) has been printed and distributed in hundreds of languages! So that the Jews are no more relevant as far as pure worship is concerned!

Those Americans asserted that Jesus appointed them in 1919, all other religionists claiming Christians discarded the idea. Today all those religions are still operating but they can't stand side by side with those operating under the arrangement set by the 1919 Americans, their members can't preach and teach effectively like Jehovah's Witnesses, their teachings is not grounded in the minds of their followers like Jehovah's Witnesses, there is no strong bond in their midst like Jehovah's Witnesses, when talking of the religion to think of FIRST as pace setters in Christianity people always remember Jehovah's Witnesses!

Well, i'll say "even if those Americans aren't here today to defend their seemingly wrong assertions, Jehovah's Witnesses globally are enough proof that something truly occurred in 1919!"

baysol:
Your education is pathetic, give a nursery kid to translate if you don't understand.

baysol:
My dear, ignorance only makes you vulnerable to wolves in sheep skin pastors and false prophets.

supercase1:
*PEACEFUL GROUP: witnesses are always law abiding u don't see them fight, riot, steal or perpetuate social disorder unlike some religious groups in our country whose trademarks are violence and interrifts

*NO RACISM AMONG THEM: JW are found in over 276 countries, witnesses are the only true people with a true sense of global unity, a witness from Russia would readily host a witness from Mali just as he would do to his blood brother, or a white witness member would host a black witness member just as a United family. There is no form of racism or tribal discriminations among witnesses

PREACHING THE GOSPEL: witnesses are always active preaching the gospel about God kingdom as Jesus always preached while he was on earth, unlike most religious leaders today that preach about prosperity and money forgetting the main mission giving by Jesus which states AND THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM WOULD BE PREACHED TO ALL INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH, AND THEN THE END WILL COME

You see, witnesses are the only Christian group doing Jesus and God will on earth

shortgun:
This border issue is just to make Christmas difficult for Christians.
They will open January next year.

MountainView:
Okay that's nice.

Please, I'm looking for Investors for my Tech Startup

angelEmade:
google the antichrist
acquiring everything like...
'we own the world'

Moode:
Can you imagine this one, I thank God for opening my eyes to identify the wolfs amongst to the sheep I hope He does for you too

Bigflamie:
A whole continent meeting a country.

Africa is indeed shameless. I weep for my continent.
Imagine the whole of Europe meeting Nigeria in our soil. And we are all human beings.

This is disgusting to me.

Brandstudio01:

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onlyonechid84:
You don't put all eggs in one basket bruah Dokito

BabaIbo:
Yeah I'm in Lagos, let's talk

BabaIbo:
I graduated few years ago. I searched for job but I couldn't get one so I accepted a teaching job that pays 30k jus to keep myself busy whole working and praying toward a better one.

I have been able to raise 150k from my one year salary.

Now I'm above 30, thoughts and worries has been running through my mind recently.

Actually I have a plan of raising enough capital to start a viable business but as you can see from my present salary, it will take time to make enough saving that will be OK for my planned business

Nairalanders please which business can I do or start with 150k to 200k? Please advice a brother

LearnITsmash:
Always bleaching to impress their gods, worwor clowns