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LordReed:
1 of these pictures is of human hand the other is of a gorilla, can you tell which is which?

Since you often claim you are a scientist you should be able to identify which belongs to your own ancestors!

HisSplendor:
I didn't need to argue with you. Visit the Science Daily link below, and also observe the attached screenshot.
What topic can you find? Does the topic say Evolution is the subject supported by the research?

It's not the truth about how life got here that matters to atheists but the fear of having to come back to the idea that an intelligent being caused their existence so they have to OBEY as in take instructions from Him.

But what really baffles me is why they're not satisfied with different opinions regarding the origin of life.
If i say my own grandparents that i don't know were Adam and Eve but you say yours is APES there's no problem na. You will relate with your kind while i will relate with mine!

Please when talking about CREATION can you guys just focus on the story and avoid having to do with EVOLUTION?

It is simple as ABC.

Creationists.
Where do you come from?
God CREATED Adam and Eve.

Evolutionists.
Where do you come from?
Evolved from APES.

Let each person speak about his/her own origin no wahala!

Aemmyjah:
Smart fellow
What about you
Are you an ape?

Please stop this thing it's no longer funny o!

Atheists didn't say they are APES but they are descendants of APES!

I don't think that's disputable nah, your talk about your ancestors Adam and Eve, they talk about their ancestors APES!

Chai!
This is why it's wrong trying to settle matters for atheists o!
OK i will remove my comment so please remove my name from this post because i was just trying to settle matters between someone who said atheists are APES and you people.

Abeg when did atheists form GROUP?

Wilgrea7:
I think this charade has gone on for far too long. This is directed at Dtruthspeaker, Aemmyjah, and any other person who has a disagreement with common logic. When you jump into threads shouting "Atheists are apes" or "atheists say we evolved from apes" as a means to slander the group, you're only making yourself look really ignorant. No offense. Several people here, including Workch, triplechoice, Lordreed and a couple others have tried to explain to you what the word means in this context, but you insist on still pushing the same false narrative.
It would be like saying you're not "homo sapiens" because the word has "homo" in it, and you're not gay, so therefore you're not homosapiens. That's primary school logic, and it baffles me to encounter such reasoning process here on nairaland. You're not even arguing from evidence, or logic at this point. You're arguing from pride, and ego. You cannot bring yourself to accept that you share a common ancestor with creatures you deem beneath you. But real eyeity as Dtruthspeaker would say, does not care about your emotions, pride, or ego. Let's assume for a second here, that the evidence says we evolved directly from rats. (this is an assumption to prove a point). So let's assume so. What difference would it make? You can't argue with credible evidence no matter how much you disagree with it. If Hitler's son grew up and realized his father was a monster, no amount of hatred he had would change the fact that he was indeed, the biological descendant of the man.As humans, we once thought we were somehow the center of the universe, and that everything revolved around us. We later found out how wrong we were. Being the center of attention, especially from that of a "God" can be a nice thing to imagine. Doesn't make it true. When you begin to hold on to stories about a God or creator that contradicts reality, then you're the one creating gods in your image. Not the other way around. This is getting too long. So I'll end it here. And considering the kind of persons you are, I'm not expecting any sort of intelligent response either. But I'm fine with that also. Adios mi amigos.

AgentNairaland:
So that Bible passage says atheists in their mouth and action believe there is God or your own definition of atheist is a person who disbelieves in the existence of God in his heart but believes in the existence of God in his actions and mouth right?

Show our chat to others nah!

brocab:
Your organisation are murderers, your weapons of destruction, is refusing to give blood..

We are OK with it as long as God never asked us to give or accept blood. It's killing with weapons we must avoid!

AgentNairaland:
Where did you get your story from that atheists in their actions and mouth, they believe God exist?

From God's word!

They say one thing publicly but in their hearts is a totally different thing! Matthew 15:8

That's why God's word says:

The FOOL (Atheist) says (IN HIS HEART) "there is no God" Psalms 14:1

No matter how you try to argue this is clear to everyone!

triplechoice:
stubborn resistance to the evolution theory.

Why refer to people who has freedom of choice as "STUBBORN" for resisting your theory?

I'm beginning to see reasons with one brother who once told me that evolutionists are trying to force their story on everyone but first they have to attack Adam and Eve story.

So whoever say "NO" to your theory is stubborn shey?

It's not compulsory you and i believe the same thing so if you're sure of your God there's no reason wishing me evil simply because i choose another God.

Please go and preach your God to whoever will accept it from the abundance of your heart you have spoken {Luke 6:45} and i don't like chatting with killers.

Farewell!

brocab:
I myself have had more patients with you, then you have given me-I don't have to meet you personally-the Lord said: by their fruit we will know them. "You can't keep a good conversation down Max: you are twisting word in one direction to another direction, in the mean time, working yourself up, writing stupidity on line. trying to start an argument.
I find this treatment from Jehovah witnesses from all walks of life. Is it something you all enjoy studying..
Now let's look at {John 17:8-9} For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
After praying for His disciples, Jesus also prays for everyone who will believe in Him through their message ({John 17:21}
I don't read Jehovah witnesses only" I READ EVERYBODY THAT CHOOSES TO BELIEVE, I don't read they belong to an organisation.
Jesus’ desire, expressed in His High Priestly Prayer, is that all of His followers would be in complete unity, just as He and the Father are in perfect unity {John 17:21}
Jesus prays for believers to be in God so that the WORLD will believe in Jesus!
{ John 17} contains the longest recorded prayer of Jesus in any of the Gospels. Jesus prays this after He finishes His final instructions to the disciples and before He is betrayed, arrested, and crucified.
First, Jesus prays for Himself, then He prays for His disciples, and He closes the prayer by praying for all believers.
The scripture's are telling me, it doesn't matter if we are involved in any organisation or not involved. as long as we believe, obey Covenant, laws and Commandment's, we are all saved.
This SAME Jesus: the Jw's rejects: humbled Himself and came to earth as a man so people would know “the only true God, and Jesus Christ” whom He sent.. (John 17:3).
Now, the hour had come when Jesus’ work on earth would be finished..
{John 17:1-2} and Jesus asks the Father to glorify Him as He prepared to finish the work that would “give eternal life” to those who believe in Him..

KnownUnknown:
Of course! I am the Divine Wizard after all.

Yeah in the city of the blind an eyed man is the king. So you can be whatever among your fellow atheists!

brocab:
I haven't once heard you show any kindness toward's me, no self control-no gentleness, deafeningly no patient's, I can't see any goodness-so what sort of treatment would one expect from any JW going from House to House.

I don't know you so how do you expect me to treat you on faceless forum where we only chat about our faith?

brocab:
The scriptures you have chosen, to back up your argument-have nothing to do with our conversation.
You used {Proverbs 28:9} He that turn away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
This means, if I was to turn away from God's law, "my prayers would not be heard. It's got nothing to do with someone praying for me.

Jesus refused to pray for people who rejected his message {John 17:8-9} because God won't accept such prayers {Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14} that's why we can't pray for you.

But if it's someone mistreating us due to the orders from a wicked ruler we must pray for such ones because they don't know what they're doing! Luke 23:34 compare to Act 7:60

As for you who wished me dead because i am quoting God's word yet you feel like seeing God come to rescue me when you scheme evil against me:

brocab:
I would rather push you on the front line-just to see you witness your beliefs, and see if your unknown god saves you..

Mark 15:36

your own judgement is in God's hands!

AgentNairaland:
Okay you claim on behalf of atheists that they said there is no God in their heart but in their mouth or actions, there is God as they worship with you twice in a week in your kingdom hall isn't it? There are many types of confusion, sir will you tell us which of them is yours?

God's word said:

And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever. 1Chronicles 28:9 compare to Hebrews 4:12

The FOOL says (in his heart) "there is no God"
Any intelligent reader supposed to know that what is in their hearts totally differs from what they're uttering that's why God revealed it!

KnownUnknown:
Quit playing!! You know your ancestor is the talking snake.

As you're able to decipher!

triplechoice:
No problem if you're not using the word derogatorily. FYI,the Adam and Eve story is an allegory, a fictional story, that should not be taken literally. So, it's impossible for fictional characters to be any kind of ancestors to any real human being.

The Adam and Eve story is real!

If you believe the APE story keep it while i keep my Adam and Eve story. You have presented your ancestors and i have presented mine.
Please if you don't want derogatory words don't say anything against the Adam and Eve story!

AgentNairaland:
Show your grandson and his mother how dumbass you are as you said Atheists will believe there is God when they see signs and wonders as if the world planet among others is not a sign for atheists to believe that there is God

Moreso, you should tell them you said Atheists claim there is God in their hearts and also claim there is No God on the other hand!

They're reading all our discussion so don't worry including your lies that i said atheists said there's God IN THEIR HEARTS!

"A stitch in time" they say "saves nine"

Where are all these people when JWs are going from house to house with a message of hope for the future so that LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL could reign? Galatians 5:22-23

Well our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus has foretold that this is what will be the result of your rejection of our peace message {Revelations 6:3-4} so we must not pray for you since you reject the counsel from God's Son! Proverbs 28:9

Jesus never prayed for Jerusalem (his home country) {John 17:8-9} WHY? Because they rejected the messengers of Godly peace sent to help them!

brocab:
What is Hilarious, I haven't heard you say-you would pray for the victim's, who are suffering in a war they never asked for.
Instead you have cursed every other Christian outside your organisation, blaming the war between Russia and Ukraine, on the million's of innocent people who have lost everything.
You are not human, deafeningly Antichrist.
Countries all over the globe have asked Russia to stop the war. religious leaders etc.. the one I didn't hear was Jehovah witnesses standing up, your claims are once again false...

triplechoice:
This has nothing to do with any religious book. It's science and scientific knowledge are rationally explained truths supported by evidence. Can we also say the same of your holy book? Workch, from his explanation, has answered already the question you and your friends have been asking, but you wouldn't accept it because you have only attached chimpanzees and monkeys to the word, ape.
That's the problem.

No problem if your ancestors were APES mine were Adam and Eve. Period!

AgentNairaland:
They should see how confused you are isn't it? I will help you keep your gullible and confusion here on nairaland, no need of showing anyone!

My grandson here is laughing because you said you're a woman but his mother is annoyed seeing how dumb you are.
I'm the one telling her that you're not dumb but pretending as if you don't understand after seeing how you goofed!

mecuries:
did Jesus and the disciples celebrate their birthdays? was Jesus even born in December? (quote anywhere it was written), you don't need to be their member to see their valid points

They will come after you!

You're not dancing to their hypocritical tune!

triplechoice:
IF you had taken your time to read what I explained, you wouldn't have replied with this.

What is the meaning of the word word, ape, as it is used I the sciences?

Let's hear from you

Ọmọ animal is animal and human is human.

If you don't agree with my book that an intelligent being created man to be intelligent then i also will never ever agree with you that animals evolved into human. Period!

AgentNairaland:
OK they keep the secret in their heart that there is God and there is No God while they worship with you twice in a week in kingdom hall right? I still don't understand the type of your own confusion

Go and show our conversation to anyone i'm sure you will understand afterwards!

When someone lay a claim that his ancestors were APES but refused to accept that he is also an APE doesn't that sound strange?

triplechoice:
It's inappropriate behaviour to be asking that sort of personal question you have been asking everywhere on this board.

The only reason you're getting away with it here, is probably because it's assume you're a black man ,if not, you would have been banned by the mods already for asking a racially offensive question if it's known that you're from another race.

No matter what is being discussed,a white man persistently harrasing a black man with the same sort of personal question , "are you an ape" on Facebook or Twitter, would be accused of using racially offensive language, and have his account suspended immediately.

So discontinue the craziness , and try to understand, that the word, ape, is only used in the sciences as a classification for certain primates with shared features, but which is not enough to make them exactly the same kind .


Within the legal community, for instance,non lawyers are "classified" as laymen or referred to as such , but you wouldn't meet any lawyer outside that setting, calling you a layman or asking you if you're a layman or not, as the know it's belittling and improper to do so.

You and Dtruthspeaker have taken workch explanation and other comments out of the context in which they were made and now using it to harass others by asking silly questions .


I thought JW are expected to be of good behaviour, but it seems you no longer care.

The mods should do their work as both of you have taken this too far. Dtruthspeaker has even gone as far as opening a thread for the madness.
SMH.

jaephoenix:
Do u have any evidence or research to counter them, or is it still your regular 'My SkyDaddy says so' theme?

Just show me a monkey that turned to human and we're done!

AgentNairaland:
Atheists cannot claim in their heart that there is God and also claim there is No God

People don't CLAIM in their heart they keep that's where secrets are kept but with their mouth they say something else. Matthew 15:8

So God's word is telling you what real atheists are saying in their hearts while their mouth is singing with others in Churches! 2Timothy 3:5; Psalms 14:1

LordReed:
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IMAliyu:
"ape, (superfamily Hominoidea), any tailless primate of the families Hylobatidae (gibbons) and Hominidae (chimpanzees, bonobos, orangutans, gorillas, and human beings)"
https://www.britannica.com/animal/ape

The author/s of that book has spoken so it's left to you whether you will BELIEVE or not!

AntiChristian:
Are you the Mod?

That's why you have no right whatsoever to tell anyone what to say or not to say!

AntiChristian:
You don't determine who is a religious person, Muslim or not!

Ọmọ you're one of them, with your mouth you declare God but in your heart you disown Him {2Timothy 3:5} nobody in the first century told Jesus that they don't believe in God but their actions says it all! Matthew 15:8 compare to Psalms 14:1

AgentNairaland:
You are confused on behalf of atheists, how can sane person claim two different things? You made huge mistake instead to accept your mistake you keep on exposing your gullible further!
Can Atheists claim there is God and also claim there is No God?
Is there any traditional herb you can take that will cure this your confusion, I will advice you to quickly contact your traditional herbalists to get you one! I'm sorry to have frustrated your gullible

AgentNairaland:
We are getting there gradually, you said these people are atheists because they say there is no God in their heart, where did you get your fake story that they claim there is God?

NO!
I'm saying
"you are one of them"
So your deceitful tongue has no effect on me.
As long as you can't present the worshipers of your God with whom you share the same line of thought. Ọmọ you be atheist!

Skankamola:
That peace is not practical in this life mr man, humans by nature must have varying yearnings. Back at the topic, how exactly was creation done? Do you have any idea what processes where involved or how long it took?

Of course our yearnings varied yet we welcome peaceful resolution in the face of disparities.

That's what SENSE (SCIENCE) is all about!

AntiChristian:
Iraq can also say it is practicing the right religion and preventing the corruption of Iran!
You don't determine who is a religious person, Muslim or not! You can only talk about your own form of Christianity which is Jehovah Witness!

So what are you doing on this thread?

AgentNairaland:
So according to your teachers these two statements means the same right?
A fool says in his heart that there is no God and you said they claim there is God

God's word is enough to help you my friend!

ACTIONS they say speaks louder than words and God now revealed to you what most people you see in religious centers are saying "IN THEIR HEARTS"

So you may choose what they're saying in their mouth but wisdom found in God's word is what we follow: these people are atheists because they say "there is no God" IN THEIR HEARTS! Psalms 14:1