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triplechoice:
Here below is what you advised.
In the above, you emphasised that it profits more when you have a personal relationship with an invisible person. Yes or no?
But 1 John 4.20 says, before you can profit from that, you must have a very good personal relationship with a "visible person", if not you're wasting your time.
I didn't conclude for you.
If you don't know how to live harmoniously with those you can see, there's no way you can do that with an invisible person you can't see.
It's what your Bible has adviised ,but you think otherwise.

You quoted me out of context!

Now where do you want to keep this part of my post?:

MaxInDHouse:
I just want all you professed atheists to know that you're not alone there are many claiming believers but in reality they are atheists!

PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with God is possible but it takes an organization of God's people to make such a relationship worthwhile.

I will respond to the OP but let those who often claim they have a personal relationship with their God in the absence of an organized group speak first!

So without an organized people in whose midst LOVE, JOY and PEACE {John 13:34-35} reigns personal relationship with God won't go smoothly for a human being.

That's why God's word nullifies the claim of any personal relationship with God when you can't present a group of worshipers with whom you share the same line of thought in Love!

smadas:
I think I have been attacked through ojukokoro(covetousness). Please can anybody help me to break the curse?

The one and only means of divine escape is to draw close to the Almighty God {James 4:7-8} Jesus made it clear that it's through greed that people do enter into trouble! Matthew 6:19-23 compare to 1Timothy 6:7-10

So pray to God in any language and please avoid the use of images!

May you have PEACE!

mecuries:
I give up on you you're not so bright

You can't blame them, their brains has been trapped in the falsehood perpetrated by their captors.
Any intelligent person knows that before you can say a religion failed to bring something at least you must consider other nations where only the religion is allowed. Is there anything in Nigeria that Islamic nations do not have?

There are many faithful Witnesses in ancient times who enjoyed PERSONAL relationship with God:
Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, David, Elijah, Jeremiah, Daniel and Jesus of Nazareth.
Each of them had a personal relationship with God but something makes their joy incomplete: an organization with which they can relate!
God promised that when His message to human is complete and perfected millions across the globe will each enjoy a personal relationship with Him through His complete message.
Then all of them will relate as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} and it will seem as if they're speaking the same language! Zephaniah 3:9

cornelboy:
Your stupidly has long long been exposed

When a stupid person feels wise you only need to allow him reap the fruitage of his stupidity because he will continue to argue blindly.
Just imagine the same people saying Christians brought hospitals now saying medicines (used in hospitals) demean Christianity!

triplechoice:
This is very funny.
So you mean it's more preferable to have a personal relationship with an invisible person?
The numerous victims of Yahoo boys would never agree to that.
I think it's about time you started investigating the "invisible person"behind your holy book.
One is easily scammed when they don't know the true identity of the person they're relating with.
So this advice of yours is not good enough. You can only profit more by having a personal relationship with a visible person .
In a way, your Bible has told you that below

You only need to as why i said it's more profitable instead of concluding for me!

Wilgrea7:
In the beginning, you talked about how 2 strangers can converse one on one, and get to know each other over time.
In the second paragraph, you begin to talk about holy books.
Since when did a holy book equate to a personal, one on one conversation? Please note the use of the word “personal"
Why does personal relationship have to hinge on a book? What sort of a relationship is built on vague one-way texts?

When two persons can see each other visibly communication is made easy but in the case where one is invisible then they have to find other means of communication which is texting and reading just as we're both doing right now!

Templee333:
but i was calling ur attention to an opportunity to advertise ur religion,don't u know u should be thanking me?

Meaning you have no religion: ATHEIST. Shey!

Before two persons start a relationship on the internet or faceless social media like this it's the comments that draws each other to feel like getting closer a time will come each will begin to ask intimidate questions like their looks, hobbies, choices in colors, food and so on. The same is applicable to two persons that one is invisible, the visible will like to know so much about his/her invisible friend so that any time an invisible stranger comes around to impersonate his/her friend it would be easy to detect. And since the visible one can only give what is visible as contribution to their friendship he/she will also like to know what the invisible can contribute to their friendship so both of them will feel loved.

So just as our comments makes us feel like seeing the person behind it's the Holy book that draws us closer to it's Author that's why the Author must proved to be of fine qualities like LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} without these qualities no sane individual will like to know or become a friend of a person whose attributes negates the above!

To be continued.......

OK let's talk about PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP!

It's the closeness between two persons that leads to personal relationship between them, this has to do with how much both parties know each other. So before two persons can build such a relationship they have to love each other from the heart, share the same feelings and pains. This requires a lot of sacrifices because the two must be ready to do whatever it takes for the happiness of each other.

Of course a layman will feel this can only be possible between two persons that can see each other but that's a lie it's also possible in fact more profitable when the other party is an invisible person!

To be continued.....

MytyD:
Well I was pondering the nature of our existence when it hits me
"GOD IS AN ATHEIST!!!?"
Wait here me out...............
Since faith is the belief not based on fact and God knows everything therefore he has no faith,
And since he's the highest power,there's no power above him
Therefore making God an atheist
Wow isn't that crazy

Your long interaction with smart atheists who often claim pastors led you to this conclusion.
God never claim He knows everything that's a lie promoted by His enemy (Satan)

And as for FAITH of course God has FAITH that is one of his qualities! Galatians 5:22

May you have PEACE!

I just want all you professed atheists to know that you're not alone there are many claiming believers but in reality they are atheists!

PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with God is possible but it takes an organization of God's people to make such a relationship worthwhile.

I will respond to the OP but let those who often claim they have a personal relationship with their God in the absence of an organized group speak first!

Templee333:
ur definition of God may be differ from mine. I dont have any relationship with ur Jehovah,he's neither my cousin nor nephew.

OP of that thread never mention the name of any God so if you're not an atheist you're supposed to speak up for your own God or keep shut not calling me to come and answer!

All these liars will avoid threads like the below:
https://www.nairaland.com/7470462/personal-relationship-god-why-need
Aren't they the same people accusing JWs to have a personal relationship with God instead of hinging on God's organization?

But then one of them dropped this comment:

Templee333:
MaxInDHouse
come, answer questions

Please where are those saying they have PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with their God?

But instead of standing up for what they've always claim they're expecting JWs to come and defend them!

c/o Aemmyjah, Janosky, Cornelboy

Aemmyjah:
I have asked you questions you could not answer and you claim to have been in the Organization for long
Show us a better performing group? You can't
Show us one place they do miracles? You can't
Show us a non-denominational bible believing church that practice the bible? You can't
Tell us when the issue of blood fractions was not a thing of conscience, you cannot
It's easy to spot a heart poisoned by hate

When haters of TRUTH decides to accuse God's people the Holy Spirit will help you out to grasp what they have in mind. Luke 12:11-12 compare to Ecclesiastes 3:7

OP has made the introduction telling you not to bring the light around him because he's ready to advertise darkness for it's costumers:

pinkylovely:
To start with, I'm aware that this will spark some negative reactions from JW PIMIs but please if you are a strong member of the JW denomination, avoid being part of this discussion.

John 3:19


That's why i stayed away from them after all many are here SEEKING, ASKING and KNOCKING for wisdom {Matthew 7:7} and those are the ones we were sent to {Matthew 10:6} as for these ones they're only interested in arguments! Titus 3:9

Please if you have something worthwhile to deliver {Luke 6:45} search for threads where your message will bring praise to JEHOVAH! Colossians 2:4

...................................your belove brother: Max

c/o Janosky, Cornelboy

This is how criminals in Rome were executed back then:

The Churches of Christendom fought really hard to keep this secret away from people but the lovers of truth preserved it for their brothers: Truth Seekers! John 8:32

May you have PEACE!

Ask Jesus' real disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) they will tell you WHY?
Jesus was executed on a stake just as criminals back then were executed but along the line paganism was introduced after the death of his Jewish disciples who knew the truth.
Jesus himself foretold this in an illustration:

“The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. Matthew 13:24-26

The highlighted "while men were sleeping" indicates that after his disciples died {John 11:11-14} falsehood was introduced into Christianity that's when those who are supposed to be CAUTIOUS and HARMLESS {Matthew 10:16} became killers in the name of religion! John 8:44

But Jesus Christ returned a century ago and he has restructured his group, today his disciples now bear another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES {Isaiah 65:15} if you read all the words of Jesus carefully regarding how people in general will treat his disciples you will be surprised that that's exactly how Jehovah's Witnesses are being treated today! Matthew 10:22-25
May you have PEACE!

MrCodeSolo:
The New Testament does not specifically describe the instrument upon which Christ died, though Acts 5:30; 10:39; and 13:28-29 refer to it as a "tree." The Greek word xulon, translated "tree" in these verses, can mean a stick, club, tree, stake, or other wooden articles.

The shocking revelation is that the "Christian" use of the cross did not begin until the time of Constantine, three centuries after Christ
Archaeologists have not found any Christian use of the symbol before that time. According to one writer (W. E. Vine, Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, article "Cross"wink, the cross as a "Christian" symbol was taken directly from the pagans.
The Romans, the ones who according to the Bible crucified Christ, are known to have used instruments of various shapes. Some were simply upright timbers, others had crosspieces attached either at the top or just a little below the top. The word "cross" in...
But today the most important and sacred symbol of mainstream "Christianity" (made up of Catholics, Protestants, and other Sunday-keeping churches) is the cross. It is used on Bibles and on church signs, altars, and rooftops. The floor plans …

So I ask you noise-makers, church-goers, church bench-warmers, shouting everywhere as if they are being bitten by some invisible holy spirit, I ask again:

The Cross: A Christian Banner or Pagan Relic?
Is the Symbol of the Cross Idolatry?
Was Jesus Crucified on a Cross or Stake (Matthew 27:35)?
Why did the Origin of the Christian Cross emanated three centuries after Christ?
Why? Why? Why?

Just typing to respond, no reasonableness!

ANTIlSLAM:
But your master Max in his super story said he was taken to the league of herbalists for healing, why dem no take him to nurse herbalists?

Wilgrea7:
As the OP, I can confirm that I was talking about all gods, which also includes Jehovah. So now, you can go ahead and tell us why you need the bible or any other book to have a relationship with your God

I have no issue with you Mr Atheist it's the one who supposed to answer you but mentioned my name that i'm after.
As for you you're free to believe whatever you want it's your cup of coffee!

Chee59:
If you think everything is about wages and income, sorry for you.

You are human, not so?

The one and only problem causing lack of trust is wages and income!

If all Nigerians agree today that from Buhari to the gateman at the local government should be paid the same amount as civil servants just tell welders that we no longer need burglaries neither iron doors or gates!

Chee59:
Everything is not money.
Human beings will work their way into your life over a period of time, years even, painstakingly gather all your secrets and use it to destroy you in one day.
Human beings are evil.
Show kindness to all.
But never ever trust any human alive.

Let all humans earn equal wages, you will praise God that you were created a human but for now inequality is the problem man was perfectly created to the glory of God!

No wahala, enjoy your day!

MindHacker9009:
The guy said what you posted was a lie. And l had to add my comment to show you were wrong and now you are the one that is bitter and has problem o.

TRUST can't be found in intelligent creatures if there is injustice or partiality!

Wait until Jesus Christ become King and pay all humans under his government the same wage then you will TRUST the one and only creature that can talk to you: HUMANS

But until then know that unjust distribution of wealth is the reason behind lack of trust among humans, you try to keep two dogs in your house, feed one often with roasted chicken and assorted meat then feed the other with bones while both of them can see what you're doing. Then you will see worst in the attitude of beasts!

Chee59:
In this my short life, I've realised that of all the creatures God made, it is only human beings who have the capacity to easily forget good done to them.
Even a tiger, a lion, is more likely to remember past goodness than a human being who is more than willing to destroy you even after every thing you've done for them.
At this point, I'd rather put my fingers into a lion's mouth than trust another human being ever again.
I'd rather use a door to repeatedly bash my fingers against the wall before I'll trust another human being again.
Fear human beings.

Janosky:
Is Romans 6:1-7 say anything about "spiritual" death?"

No.

Based on faulty logic,Is God going to resurrect,then judge & punish Adam again when Genesis 3:19 & Romans 6:7 is in your Bible?
This Sand typing GIBBERISH.

Instead of asking he chose to call his cohorts who are all unfit to stand JWs in scriptural knowledge.
Let him create another form of punishment for SIN apart from DEATH! Romans 6:23

ANTIlSLAM:
The same internet is full of stories where your fellow JWs occultist members are sexually abusing 19 children, sex crimes, your healer herbalists involving in money ritual, etc

Now it's clear that this antiwhatever is a small girl!

If the internet is full with stories of pastors sleeping with people's wives does that defines the title?

MindHacker9009:
MaxInDHouse is very wrong. They only need to know what you have that they need. This is why it's not good to tell others about your achievements. They can be very deceptive too by always talking about Jesus Christ to you till you tell them Jesus did this for me and from here they know you have what they want and they can use their spell as they know that Jesus Christ is FAKE and was invented by the Roman empire. Only God Almighty of the Old Testament can remove this spell once they know you have what they want.

This bitterness is hurting you, try to free your mind. I even add it that "no name needed to be called" yet you mentioned my name saying i asked him to call names.

MaxInDHouse:
Spells are spiritual weapons, it only has effect on you when you have items belonging to their agents around you.
So first get rid of all items having to do with demons then call on your God to protect you, mind you your God must not be the one that's worshipped with images or items because all the Gods having to do with such thing are demons and they're connected globally.
The one and only true God has nothing to do with spiritual items or images, don't worry about His name just go on your knees and pray to Him heartily and you will get help from Him!

Ọmọ you don get problem o!

Templee333:
i don't know ur definition of "atheist". If,by atheist,you mean someone who don't believe in ur Jehovah,Awake,watchtower & all those cock and bull bible stories,yes i don't believe them. i only believe facts that can be proven, not stories.

OP wasn't talking about Jehovah, Awake or Watchtower so defend your beliefs if you have one instead of calling out those having faith!

Continue deceiving yourself with two accounts i'm now a Christian with the heart of a dove one day you will play your card into the hands of those that will deal with you, ṣebí you don't want sound advice.

oteneaaron:
Lol.
Kindly define what an "Advice" means and what a "Threat" means.
You are just beating around the bush.
Admit you made a mistake and apologize to Courz - it is that easy.
But no, you keep speaking from both sides of your mouth and that is why I call you a HYPOCRITE.
You threatened Courz and it is clear for even the blind to see.
Is this the fruit of the spirit you always speak about?

AntiChristian:
I will drag you when you tell lies!
I will drag you when you don't make sense!
At least pagans are humans created by God too! Why should God kill them but Jesus didn't? Ain't that hypocrisy?

Iraqis are Muslims who believe Iranians are not and it can also be vice versa with Iranians claiming Muslims! So in essence it is like God's people fighting the pagans as you call it!

Continue deceiving yourself with hypocrisy!

You want to drag others claiming they are lying but here you are lying to your own soul!

Truvelisback:
U said, it only have effects on those who have items belonging to their agents around u.

OK that's a sacred secret but since you don't know leave it for those who may like to know the reason why God forbids His worshippers from using items and images! Exodus 20:1-5

Truvelisback:
It is a lie.

What is the lie?

oteneaaron:
Lol.
Oh so you're no longer a former CIA operative aka Intelligence Officer?
I thought you said you Courz should "watch his back"?
What about your "former" colleagues who you said you would call to "take this up"?

So if someone told you something that sound unbelievable putting a call through to verify is a threat to the one who told you, shey?

Guy you need to know the difference between a threat and an advice.
I felt like putting a call through for verification but then i thought "perhaps if this should go further than just chatting with people on Nairaland how do i tell my former colleagues that it's just a joke?"
That's why i told you "watch your back" because i know that it's just cheap blackmail but what if it's some inexperienced officers?
The call would have led to something else and there's no way i can withdraw the case after it has been established.
So it's an advice guy not a threat!