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famozine1:
Bro hell is different from grave, there is eternity punishment which God have prepared for the devil and is followers that's is where is called hell

Everlasting death with no hope of a resurrection awaits Satan and demons but that doesn't mean they will be alive anywhere.
Death simply means non-existence!

Jerryhare:
It is your traditional herbalist that has nothing to do with the demons and spiritual realms while the phone, home appliances, etc you're enjoying today has something to do with the demons right?
Tell your dumbest leaders in your Jehovah witnesses to throw into the lagoon the cars and anything made from technology they are enjoying today including the phone in your hand. Your thinking need urgent attention

FOOL!
I acknowledged that even if it's from the knowledge of DEMONS it doesn't belong to them.
To illustrate: If your own father possess a farm and took you to a far distant land for another business then thieves came and stole the produce of your father's farm only to sell it back to you. Then the thieves were caught and taken to a court of law.
Who should press charges against the thieves?
A stranger or you the son of the owner?

Ọmọ even though you ate out of what those thieves stole nobody can charge you for taking back what rightfully belongs to you!


Demons are aliens on this planet, they had no business here, this is our abode which God gave to our father Adam, so if Adam died due to his rebellion and demons began making use of what rightfully belongs to our father in what way are we criminals when we make use of what rightfully belongs to us?

The only way we can become guilty is when we bow down (worship) the thief to get what rightfully belongs to us.
Ọmọ LEARN nah me get the HERBS and ROOTS no be demon property!

Funny enough no sane believer can say Jesus supported the use of weapons when he:

©Never used weapons against anyone.
©Never killed anyone.
©Controls all the natural forces.
©Controls all spirit beings both good and evil.
©Always flee from attacking lesser beings.
©Asked his disciples whom he never taught how to use weapons to get one each.
©Told eleven men that two (physical) swords is enough.
©Rebuked a disciple who wanted to fight back in self defense.
©Angrily used the Archangel's voice only for all his enemies to fall dead.
©Cured one of his attackers whose ears got cut off.
©Surrendered his life on a torture stake.

So what exactly does he meant by the sword?

In the spirit realms it's the TRUTH uttered that kills evil beings not weapons {Revelations 19:15} Jesus referred to the Bible as TRUTH {John 17:17} Apostle Paul referred to God's word as SWORD of the spirit {Ephesians 6:17} he concluded that the Bible is like a double edged sword! Hebrews 4:12

Since Christians must not kill anyone not even their enemies {Matthew 5:43-44} and they're not to fear death in the hands of enemies since their resurrection is certain {Matthew 10:28} Apostle Paul concluded that Christians aren't fighting against flesh and blood {Ephesians 6:12} so we don't need physical weapons.

So our weapon is the BIBLE which each and every one of us must purchase a full copy with this weapon we will always conquer Satan the same way Jesus Christ did when he kept quoting this book saying:
It is WRITTEN: Matthew 4:4
It is WRITTEN: Matthew 4:7
It is WRITTEN: Luke 4:8

This is the reason why true disciples of Christ today know as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES all have a complete Bible each even if a JW has nothing he must be a proud owner of a copy of the Bible: our SPIRITUAL SWORD! Luke 22:36

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

The most tolerant personality ever: the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
Exodus 34:6
Psalms 103:8
Proverbs 14:29

Babafrayol23:
Life hard

That's why He sent His only begotten Son to the earth and there's nothing any human has experienced Jesus suffered 100 times.
So God can't come but His son who is exact replicate of God {Colossians 1:15} came and lived a life of role model for humans {1Peter 2:21} he was born, bread and brought up in a poor home on this same planet, this is the most important personality who ever walked this planet!

uche40:
If you ask me, the God of the Old Testament is intolerance personified.

It's just the same person but all you need to do is STUDYING the Bible not just READING it!

Truvelisback:
I will assume u don't have anything meaningful to say.

Great!

Truvelisback:
this question is majorly for MaxinDHouse

If what you read in my comments regarding it doesn't suit your thinking Suit yourself. We are not to go about arguing! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

OkCornel:
The book of Revelation is the scroll of prophecy in Revelation 22.
Not other books. It’s self explanatory

Jesus Christ said he has not come to condemn the laws (books written concerning how Israelites must live their lives) and prophets (Israelites prophesying) everything they said are PROPHECIES!

Truvelisback:
There is a level of Popularity and Fame u would get to, all eyes would be on u.

True Christians avoid such because we must live quiet lives! 1Timothy 2:2

OkCornel:
Including Songs of Solomon?

YES!

Jerryhare:
Even the cloth you are wearing over there, the white men that made it have to consulted the demons before been made, see your shallow thinking
Now that you accepted to the fact that your traditional herbalist consulted the demons before getting you treated, I will advice you stop referring to yourself as Christ's like

Misinformed Churchgoer!

Treatment has nothing to do with the source of knowledge where the doctor gets the idea God created everything whether HERBS or ROOTS in the beginning and it was all GOOD! Genesis 1:31

So go and tell your pastors that you've learned something NEW from Jehovah's Witnesses!

OkCornel:
Revelation 22 v 18-19;

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll.

19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

The above verses was referring to the book of Revelation alone, not any other book or collection of books.

Look at the words "THE WORDS OF PROPHECY OF THIS SCROLL" Scroll, not scrolls...

The book of revelation is the words of prophecy, not the book of Songs of Solomon or Esther etc...

Context is key..

The whole Bible is one big volume in the eyes of the Author that's why you're thinking about the singular or plural terms used, from Genesis to Revelation is words of the PROPHETS so it's all PROPHECIES.

When Jesus said:
“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill" Matthew 5:17

He was referring to all the books ever written by Israelite prophets nothing is excluded!

OkCornel:
I hope you know this passage refers to the book of revelation alone...
Not a set of books called The Bible.

God is for ORDERLINESS and not confusion {1Corinthians 14:33} that's why He never said what is written in the Bible book of Revelation 22:18-19 in the LAST BOOK of the Bible, you can't find such in any book. In fact before God concluded His words with the Jewish prophet named Malachi He made it clear to this prophet that messages are still coming through another prophet who will come in the manner of Elijah! Malachi 4:5
This means the TRUTH is yet to complete until the Messiah has come and gone.
Before Jesus left the earth he declared that he still has many things concerning the TRUTH to tell his disciples but they can't bear it all within the allotted time! John 16:12-13

It's this same Jesus who declared in the LAST BOOK of the Bible that there shouldn't be any ADDITION or SUBTRACTION! Revelations 22:18-19

Of course any intelligent reader supposed to know that all messages regarding the TRUTH has been completed. In fact Apostle Paul made it clear to everyone that all visions, prophecies and dreams are never complete but part of the TRUTH {1Corinthians 13:8-10} until Jesus finally declared that it's now complete with the Revelations in this book of books known as the BIBLE!

OkCornel:
Is God not the Truth?
Is everything that God spoke and revealed limited to a set of books?

God said nothing outside the Bible, that's what makes it the one and only TRUTH! John 17:17

There are three ways God reveal Himself to mankind:
Through creation, words and actions but then we can't perfectly read His Actions or Creation that's why we need His WORD (BIBLE) God arranged this book so that when we fail to get the information passed through action we can go back to find the absolute TRUTH through studying His WORD BIBLE!

Jerryhare:
Even you don't care if your traditionalist herbalist consult the devil for spiritual power in spiritual realm in getting you treated, once it is treatment you are good to go

Do you know the demons consulted before the white men came about blood transfusion?

Do you know the demons consulted when cars, aeroplanes, electricity and many others were gotten?

Ọmọ no one cares all you need is PAY FOR THE SERVICE RENDERED you have no business with the demons since you never consulted them for power or knowledge to heal or invent anything but once you have to speak to them that's when you need to run.

Discoveries were slow before the year 1914 do you know why? Because Satan and his demons still enjoy moving to and fro the heavens but after Jesus ousted them from heaven they all rushed to the earth and that's how technology speed up just to cause distractions here and there.

God's people can make use of all their discoveries after all our God is the maker of all the ingredients used in making automobile, electricity, telephone, computer, aeroplane and many others. All we mustn't do is talk to or worship their demons because our God owns everything!

petra1:
Nobody advocate for objection on what Jesus has said. Putting security in place especially when needed is wisdom . That does not take away the place of God's protection and trust. safety is still of tge Lord. Protection can fail. The fastest horse cannot save in battle.
Proverbs 21:31
The horse is prepared against the day of battle:
but safety is of the LORD.

The one going about with security operatives is the one in real trouble because all eyes will be on him!

SeniorMan715:
You lack understanding

Most of us do too but all we need is humility when we found out that we still need to learn more!

OkCornel:
So God did not exist before the Bible was written?
God did not exist before mankind invented ink and paper/papyrus?
Just thinking out loud.

The topic is not about God but TRUTH about God and what is happening both in heaven and on earth. Many people believe God exist {James 2:19} but then they don't know the truth about Him so as to obey and worship Him acceptably. That's the purpose of the Bible God's word which Jesus referred to as the TRUTH! John 17:17

TAYO124:
If you cannot be political and Christian then why are you human at all?

God doesn't design man to determine what is right and wrong for his fellowman {Genesis 2:17} we must all rely on God's standard since man can't successfully direct his own step {Jeremiah 10:23} but since most humans prefer human rulers {1Samuel 8:5-6} then the human rulers demean their subjects {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} and God will not yield to their cries for help! 1Samuel 8:18

There are so many things that even angels in heaven don't know so they have to rely on the utterances of Jesus' disciples who has been BORN AGAIN as God's Children {John 1:11-12} for instance most angel only knew Jesus as a great commander back in heaven {Mark 1:24} but when it comes to the voice they often hear from the throne they don't know that Jesus is the one transmitting it to them not until after John the Apostle has been baptized with God's Holy Spirit and penned down those words we now read in the Bible book of John 1:1 which says:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

That's the time they realized that Jesus' voice has been what they're hearing all these while and that's the same voice all servants of God writing the Bible has been hearing all along.

So by the time Jesus himself came to the earth as human and another voice spoke from heaven all the angels now feared the Christians. WHY? Because they discovered that it's only from this people that they can know the TRUTH about so many things they never understood from creation until now!

It was revealed to them that they were ministering, not to themselves, but to you, regarding what has now been announced to you by those who declared the good news to you with holy spirit sent from heaven. Into these very things, angels are desiring to peer. 1Peter 1:12

So if angels who existed before humans, lived with God in heaven and behold His glory must learn the TRUTH from the mouth of humans who are disciples of Christ Jesus then is there TRUTH before the Bible?

OkCornel:
Before the bible was written Truth existed. If all books today in the world are burned up, the truth will never cease to exist. Truth is a spirit (the source), not necessarily a book (the product)
The Spirit of Truth...

There is no TRUTH before the Bible!

Faithful ones before the writing of God's word lived in fear because there was no record to confirm if what they're saying is from God or their own initiative {John 8:28-29} that's why God sent Enoch to early grave {Genesis 5:24} to prevent this good man from been killed by faithless people as he kept preaching fearlessly yet what could he present as evidence that his utterances are from God?

That's why Jesus (God's only begotten Son) always quote the Bible as authority for anyone who has faith in God {Matthew 4:4, 7, 10} note that Jesus kept quoting the Bible for Satan both of them existed before Moses who penned down those WORDS yet they both rely on what Moses penned down because that's the one and only authority for all those claiming they have faith in God.

So there is no TRUTH for any fleshy creature before the Bible that's why Jesus said:

Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth. John 17:17

God is the source of TRUTH but then if there is nothing to quote then how can two persons confirm that the words they're hearing is the TRUTH?

That's why Satan surrendered because he discovered that Jesus is 100% current when it comes to the TRUTH which is God's word known today as the Bible! Revelations 19:11-16

OkCornel:
For starters, you can never limit the truth (God) to a set of books.
Maybe idol worshippers thinking they serve the One True God can do that…
The truth is not limited to a set of books or religion or tribe.
The truth is God and God is the truth.
Religion is fraud.
Know this and know peace.

The TRUTH can only be found in just one book known as "BIBLE" {John 17:17} of course we can correlate what we found elsewhere to get a clearer view but then whatever contradicts this big book is not worth considering at all!

petra1:
I don't get you. I am not by any means advocating worldliness

Worldliness is when Jesus speaks and you object.

He loved one Jewish ruler so much after seeing how much the man wishes to gain God's kingdom so Jesus suggested that the young man put away all the prominence so as to be free from all the bodyguard stuff and easy to approach because that's how he can become a disciple of Christ who must go from house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} of course he can't do that if he's always going about with security operatives!
Well the man felt that's too much sacrifice to make for being a disciple {Matthew 13:45-46} so he tuned away! Luke 18:18-23

That's what believing Jesus truly means.

May you have peace!

cornelboy:
Lol. Earth is the eternal home of men.
God created the first man to fill the earth and dominate it forever.
Heaven is God and angels abode.

Psalms 115:16

Bigsecret:
Hmmm
How do we influence if we allow unbelievers rule us?

Are you a Christian?

Well if you claim to be one know that the man called CHRIST only influence his disciples but as for unbelievers Satan influence them {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so until our Master Lord and King comes to take charge we must lay low!

petra1:
Wrong. Do you leave your door open when you go out . Do you leave your car door unlocked? It’s not about privacy. For privacy all you need is curtain not door nor burglary proof. Some of you use iron door or still put wood behind the door. It’s only because thats what you can afford. Anyone who use iron door or armored door for house and critisize who use amoured car is a hypocrite . You only use the one you can afford . Everyone have the responsibility to protect himself .

I'm really sorry, i don't mean to argue with you {Titus 3:9} I'm only interested in the words of the world's most wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} if you're OK with his suggestion {Matthew 6:19-21} but if you feel wiser it's OK!

Thanks for your time!

Ilamina:
So no one is leaving a good life that qualifies them for heaven

You missed the point, Hell is obsolete English for Grave all the dead whether good or bad goes there! Ecclesiastes 9:10

cornelboy:
I often hear people say 'politics is a dirty game' and i have experienced it in my school, local government and even in my church.

Irrespective of your religion, you'll always get dirty.

Jesus confirmed that Satan is the overall ruler of this system of things! John 14:30
No wonder Satan could invite Jesus and offered him a political seat! Luke 4:5-7
The first century Christians are no part of the world {John 15:19; 17:14} because they are fully aware that Satan is in control of all the political seats on this planet {1John 5:19} that's why we are to continue praying for God's kingdom {Matthew 6:10} when Jesus will come and destroy all human governments {Daniel 2:44} until then we must stay away from the dirty game called POLITIC so as not to get stained! James 1:27

Templee333:
the pictures didn't mean anything to me. Besides,they never answer why you worship the idols of sophia & caleb

Whatever you think, say or do about the cartoon of Sophia and Caleb is your cup of coffee, after all you've said atheists are better better than preachers of God's word and your fellow atheists are saying JEHOVAH is Satan so what else should be expected from atheists like you?
See to it that your own god is presented with it's worshipers first before accusing others of idolatry because you need to present pure worship before you can prove that any other forms of worship is wrong!

petra1:
Security is common sense not worldliness. Any person who locks his door at night and locks the gate and locks the car and yet criticise others for the security measures they take is doing hypocrisy. why not let God watch over the car and the house

Locking doors totally differs from hiring body guards!
When you lock a room, shop or car you're making it private but when you're surrounded by security operatives you're displaying stupidity.
What you're trying to protect is not hidden from those close to you and you can't trust any of them fully so why hiring them in the first place?
Johnson is confused now because he's not sure whether his attackers have insiders among his guards. I'm talking from the point of view of a professional security services agent, the only person you can fully trust when going about with security operatives is yourself!

Of course there should be an UPDATE but it's man's understanding of the Bible that needs to be updated not the Bible itself because the Bible is God's word!