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Mutant001:
wetin concern african man concern abraham?
Who isiah and jeremiah help?
Wetin concern jericho and jeremiah with african man?
How can african verify the fallibility of a book that isn't about him, wasn't written by him or addressed to him?
Show me the city of Capetown, onitcha, accra, lagos kigali in the bible. Don't you have your own gods to embrace
INFACT SOME AFRICAN ZOMBIES LIKE YOU ARE WALKING BAG OF EMPTINESS COUPLE WITH IGNORANCE AND GROSS ILLITERACY

You just keep amusing me with your myopic thoughts walahi talahi!

According to history my own people (Yorùbá) migrated from the far east (Asia) to Nigeria and the Bible explained that it was that same place that God confused the language of all mankind! Genesis 11:1-9

So what exactly do you mean by "gods of your land"

Mutant001:
you don't expect the constitution in russia to favor you as a black man
As a black man staying in a white mans land you will always be regarded as a second class citizen they will always be a preferential treatment for it's white folks and you will face all manner of racism and degradation because of your skin color than you are in your own land

The gods of your land will favor you more than the foreign jewish gods.
Because you are the son of the soil and the blood of your ancestors still flows in you.

If my people truly migrated from another place to Western Nigeria?

cornelboy:
Na you mumu aswear.
If the world really was covered with flood and everyone died, how would the Egyptians witness the whole thing and record it?
You see say your mumu no be here?

Another fact is that the flood happened many years before the kingdom of Egypt emerged.

The Bible never mentioned the age of the earth and never said the earth is flat and has four corners.

Most atheists are former members of the churches of Christendom and Muslims so they based their judgment on the misconception thought in their false religions!

cornelboy:
Athiest mumu die.
The writers of the Bible clearly wrote their books as true events while Harry potter is just work of literature. The author never claim it was a recorded true life story.

Not just that but they can see with their own eyes that people globally are striving to live up to what the Bible say so let them point to people living in harmony with Harry Potter's story book! Matthew 5:14-16

cornelboy:
No be everybody fit grasp these things.

It's really deep i know but at times it's good to tell them so they won't think being born again is just like making a wish!
Only those baptized publicly have proved that they're on Jesus' said and they will strive to live the rest of their lives according to Jesus' orders this is what it means to be born of water.
It's like after coming out of that water you become a new person dead at entrance into the water and renewed when coming out of the water with the determination that you're with the church come what may for the love of Christ.

But God is choosing 144,001 rulers from the earth to rule in heaven over the earth. This is what all the first century religous leaders in the Jewish community anticipated, Nicodemus was one of this group so he came to ask Jesus not just to become a citizen of God's Kingdom because their belief is that the Christ has come to establish God's Kingdom on earth {Act 1:6} just as the scriptures foretold {Daniel 2:44 compare to Isaiah 9:6-7} that was what all Jews expected back then. But their rulers were expecting the Christ to come and make them his co-rulers after all they've been scrutinizing the Jews before the coming of Christ (according to their myopic thought)

So when Nicodemus came to meet Jesus he tried to seek favoritism by lying to Jesus saying "Rabbi, we know that you have come from God as a teacher, for no one can perform these signs that you perform unless God is with him.” John 3:2 he was trying to sit on the fence so as to keep his position in the Jewish High Court and at the same time being a friend of Christ. This is impossible that's why Jesus told him:

“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” John 3:3

Nicodemus need a complete rebirth!
First he must be born of water (which means a publicly declaration before everyone that he's now one of the disciples of Jesus Christ through water baptism) secondly he must be born of the spirit (God will anoint him with the Holy Spirit out of countless baptized disciples of Christ signifying that he has been chosen to rule with Christ in heaven) John 3:5


Carefully note that there's a difference between the way Jesus first said this thing and the second:

“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.”


“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. What has been born from the flesh is flesh, and what has been born from the spirit is spirit" John 3:5-6

Only those who have become baptized with water can SEE what billions aren't seeing in a spiritual sense about God's Kingdom. There is no sign to be shown to faithless people {Matthew 12:39; 16:4} but baptized Christians will begin to SEE the bright future of obedient mankind as they continue to associate with the Church as Christ will always prove to be with them in the spirit! Matthew 18:20; 28:20

But only those anointed with God's Holy Spirit can ENTER into the wedding feast {Matthew 22:1-14} of the marriage between the Christ and his bride {Revelations 21:2} whoever is not chosen as in given the invitation which is the anointing (spiritual garment) is not going to (ENTER) with the bridegroom (Christ) Matthew 25:10

So all baptized and obedient people will SEE God's Kingdom but only the anointed will ENTER with Christ in the first resurrection! Revelations 20:4-6

Of course all obedient mankind will live forever but only the first fruit of the Kingdom will be privileged to ENTER heaven with Christ they are a limited number that's why Jesus referred to them as "little flock" Luke 12:32

So when misinformed churchgoers claims they are born again i just laugh because they don't really know what they're saying!

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Ken4Christ:
The contributions he made to my thread made me know that he is not born again. He was insisting on following what Jesus taught. But I corrected him that you must believe in him first and be born again. He was silent on that.
I thought he is following this thread. Let him tell us that he is born again and how he got born again. And what are you wanting for to be born again. It's a free gift. Just believe that Jesus died for you from your heart and confess him as Lord over your life. And you will be saved. Don't continue in the wrong teachings of Jehovah Witness for it will land you in hell. Hell is very hot and you will be there until final judgment day where you will be transferred to the Lake of fire which is far worse than hell.

You're only been deluded because you don't even know what being born again means.
It's not just a wish but whoever God chose even Jesus can't make anyone a born again!

Wilgrea7:
By your logic, i could prove harry Potter and Lord Voldemort exist by referencing the novels.

Present a group of people practicing what the book says and what they're benefitting from it!

Mutant001:
EVERY RELIGION HAS SPIRITS INTERCEDING FOR THEM SO IT IS NOT ONLY EXCLUSIVE TO CHRISTIANITY

Good!
So everyone can worship whatever God pleases them not necessarily the gods their ancestors worshiped!

Lukuluku69:
Lol. To protect himself from Jewish leaders arrest.
Remember they wanted him arrested. But they surprised him by coming with Roman soldiers as such he made a retreat as a sensible leader
Remember he has singlehandedly beat the Jews at the Temple and chased them away.
He was sure he can beat the Jews anytime anyday.

Beat or drove them away?

I was also a Muslim too so i can understand your fears, Jesus Christ has all it takes to be the Messiah after him there is no messenger from God. So if you want to be saved all you need is to accept the truth but if not you can continue in your Islam, it's not by force!

Mutant001:
In african spirituality we create a form for God because that makes more sense. We are practical about life and Gods and our existence. On the other hand you created an imaginary creature in the sky and claim that creature created you. In medical terms, that is schizophrenic and you need to see a psychiatrist

Your approach speaks in volume what type of god you worship, it's the one who can't work unlike the God who promised to send His Holy Spirit (Active Force) {Zechariah 4:6} gather people throughout the earth in millions {Isaiah 2:2-3} infuse in their hearts His righteous standard and make them think alike! Isaiah 2:4 compare to John 17:20-23

Please instead of angrily throwing tantrums can you just tell me what your god is doing presently?

Because the God i worship is working out {John 5:17} what the whole world can SEE! Matthew 5:14-16

Ken4Christ:
Please, quote to me where he said he was born again.

Why not quote him where he said he's not born again nah!

Lukuluku69:
According to the Gospel narratives, he never used the sword on anyone. That is true. John The Baptist never used a sword on anyone too. But Jesus gave instructions to buy swords and they wielded a couple under his nose. And he told them it is okay. Enough was the word.

Now, can't you see that Jesus Swords was meant for protection? Is that hard for you to see thru? At Gethsemane, Jesus took the guys with the swords into the inner room and asked the remaining 9 to wait and watch but the guys with the swords he too inside inside while he ALONE pray. Can't you see thru this that Jesus was protecting himself?

Somewhere on the Bible (Oniwasu) it is written there is a time for everything. To die, to be born, to war, for peace etc.

Don't you think Mr. Intelligence Officer, that Jesus instructions to procure Swords was one of the times mentioned by Oniwasu?

To protect himself from who?

Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword. Or do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father to supply me at this moment more than 12 legions of angels?" Matthew 26:52-53

This is not Muhammad o, we are talking about Jesus whose voice (as the archangel) made all his opposers fell down flat! John 18:6

So he doesn't need swords for protection from mortal men Sir! Mark 4:41

Ken4Christ:
Yes because he gave the wrong procedure to salvation. I knew he will certainly be a Jehovah Witness. Religion will not take you to heaven. Humble yourself and do what God's word says to do. Give your life to Christ first. Just believe and confess the Lordship of Christ. So easy but pride will not allow you because you want to uphold your teachings which is preparing people for hell. Unless you repent, you will burn in hell. Your lies are just too many. And you will never go unpunished for misleading people.

Why are you lying on a public forum like this?

The other guy never admit not being born again o!

cornelboy:
Lol. You should be a professional comedian

Why didn't your oblivious ancestors' gods fight for their worshipers when the whites first set their feet on their land?

Are you using your dead gods to threaten me?
If they couldn't strike the whites when came to profane both them and your ancestors, your dried brain should process that they can't do anything to me. They're dead.

Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them! Psalms 115:4-8

Lukuluku69:
Oga Ade, e ma pe aja l'obo fun wa na! You claim your group follow Jesus commandments and I tell you that he once told them to sell their respective garments and buy swords. When he said this, TWO SWORDS MATERIALIZES and Jesus himself said " It is enough"
Note that the Disciples have been carrying these swords all along.
Also, the same Jesus was reported to have told his disciples: All those who would not want him to rule over then should be brought forth and slay before him.....
Also, according to your Church doctrines, the same Jesus will morph into Angel Michael and go on a killing spree of unbelievers when next he comes.
Yet you want to ram it down our throat that Jesus is peace loving when he told you in plain language he did not come to send peace on the earth rather a SWORD.

Jesus never used weapons on anyone, never encouraged his disciples to use weapons and after his ascension they never used weapons against anyone.
Crystal clear that he taught them something else that you don't understand because at least he had 11 disciples with him that very night so if what he meant is for each of them to possess physical swords how can two be enough for 11 men? John 16:12-13

Lukuluku69:
The part he asked his disciples to sell their garments and use the proceed to buy Sword is not in your Bible I guess?

And to let you know that you guys have been in the wrong all along, when he gave this instructions, TWO SWORDS materialises from his disciples! TWO not ONE! Meaning they have been carrying them all along.

Also, these TWO swords was with his disciples when they were on there way to Gethsemane and it was one of these swords that was used to loop off a Soldier ear

Now you tell me Jesus never used a sword on anyone? According to the Bible, he himself never used one but his disciples did and here you are telling me you follow Jesus commandments! So, I ask you when are you selling that weather beaten "Coat" of yours to buy a sword?

Jesus taught them by examples because he doesn't doubt their obedience so far they're with him they're learning.
Remember Judas Iscariot used to steal from the purse of the group of course Jesus knew very well but he never called him out, he want each of them to learn from his actions and words not by force!

Regarding selling coat and buying swords no JW throughout the world doesn't possess a complete copy of the Bible (our spiritual sword) Ephesians 6:17 compare to Hebrews 4:12

Lukuluku69:
The same Jesus that told his disciples to sell garments and buy swords?
The same Jesus that said all those who would not want him to rule over then should be brought forth and slay before him?
The same Jesus who after morphing into Angel Michael would come and slaughter everyone who never believed in him?
Carry on.,

He never used swords (weapons) on anyone, all he is saying is when he becomes king of God's Kingdom in the spirit realms so his earthly subjects must prove to be the meekest of all men in fact meeker than Moses! Numbers 12:3

They must not lift up weapons against anyone, that's the duty of angels not humans! Matthew 25:34

The man Jesus known as CHRIST taught his own disciples never to raise weapons against anyone {Matthew 26:52} so whenever you hear of religionists using weapons to settle issues know that they're Satan's weeds planted among Jesus' fine seeds {Matthew 13:25} that's why Jesus sent angels in this last days to separate his true disciples from the midst of Satan's agents {Matthew 13:30 compare to Revelations 18:4} today the true God has His own worshipers separated completely from Satan's agents throughout the world and He now call them by another name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

PastorAIO:
You and your strawmen. Do you even know what I worship? Just projecting the poo in your soul. Did your cult not start because you could not agree with Seventh Day Adventist?
Remind me how many different sects and cults claiming to be the true worshippers of your ghoul there are.

Whatever makes you and i disagree on terms and conditions of worship simply means the spirit beings we worship differs.
So use the same logic for all religions!

PastorAIO:
It appears you. don't. know what. Intelligence is. You. want me to show something like aeroplane or microwave oven as the only. demonstration of. intelligence. That would mean that you don't. think that. aborigine people in the. amazon forest are intelligent.
It actually quite sad. by. your own definition you are not intelligent because in all. likelihood you. have never made a technological. advance.

You complicate issues for yourself when trying to separate man from man!

Whatever advancement in technology on this planet comes from just one specie: humans!

PastorAIO:
You don't. have the mental. capacity to understand it. I could try. to explain but I doubt that you'll get it. If you want me to. try though, I. will.

So what is the difference between you and the churchgoer who say listeners need some kind of spirit before they can understand his explanation?

aisha1314:
Is it illegal to be a free thinker or atheist in Nigeria? I heard that people who are known atheists can be imprisoned and sentenced to death.

Speaking out is the problem not what you have in your head!

For instance, imagine yourself in the midst of political thugs chanting praises of their choice of politician is it wise to speak against their candidate at that point in time?
The same goes with religion, it's unwise to say anything against the god some people have lived all their lives to worship at the time they're angry.
The one and only religion that has what it takes to withstand any form of criticism teaches adherents to walked away peacefully whether you welcome their idea or criticize them! Matthew 10:13-15; Luke 9:56-60

Wilgrea7:
In every single thread... You find a way.. no matter how miniscule... to spread your peace narrative. Nothing you posted here.. apart from the last line.. has anything to do with what I'm talking about here.

Well the first and foremost reason people engage their neighbours in discussion is PEACE! Otherwise your neighbour only need weapons to take whatever he/she needs from you by force. So peace is the ultimate goal of chatting with your neighbour!

afficionado7:
Wilgrea7 but... but... he has quoted the bible na. Doesn't that answer everything?

Quoting the Bible is like showing you where the wisdom comes from. I don't believe in my own intelligence rather i rely on the counsel found in God's word.
So if you think you're wiser than what God's word says please prove it to me!

Mutant001:
you musn't be in africa for your ancestral gods to grant your request
The gods are everywhere and you can't runaway from them.
No matter where you are or the distance all you need is the necessary enchantment, materials, spirituality and divination and the gods will answer your supplication

Well i know people like Dangote, Otedola, Okoya, MKO Abiola and many more who are worshipers of foreign gods and they're stinkingly rich. So what happened in their case?

Mutant001:
lmfao ...you are funny
we still have african americans and africans who practice voodoo and are pagans that are millionaires
We still have black atheist and those who are non affiliated that are millionaires

But how come they're SUCCESSFULLY since they're not on their father's soil where the gods of their ancestors can support them!

There is just one reason!

In the history of religion people only worship in the same way their ancestors do but the one and only true God promised that towards the endtime before He destroy evildoers He will establish pure worship.
And how will it go?
God will send out His Active Force (Holy Spirit) to gather humble and obedient people from all the nations throughout the world {Isaiah 2:2} they will speak with one another on God's standard {Isaiah 2:3 compare to Malachi 3:16} this will lead to peaceful coexistence among them. Isaiah 2:4

The spirit of disobedience will also prepare the hearts of disobedient people so that when the message to get them on the road to salvation comes they may also have something to say in defense.
So the battle line has been drawn between the faithful and faithless but the faithful will always give indisputable reason for faith in their God while faithless will be silenced! Isaiah 54:17

That's why you're always here trying to convince yourself that you're right with atheism!

Mutant001:
you don't expect the constitution in russia to favor you as a black man
As a black man staying in a white mans land you will always be regarded as a second class citizen they will always be a preferential treatment for it's white folks and you will face all manner of racism and degradation because of your skin color than you are in your own land
The gods of your land will favor you more than the foreign jewish gods.
Because you are the son of the soil and the blood of your ancestors still flows in you.

Blacks who became millionaires in whiteman's countries ńkọ́ o?

Mutant001:
YOU ARE MYOPIC, HYPERMETROPIC AND SICK IN THE BRAIN

THE SUPREME GOD EMBODIES BOTH GOOD AND EVIL

In short there's no need telling people what to do after all you can't change what God chose to do whether GOOD or EVIL!

Mutant001:
God is a God of diversity!

Nigerians should embrace the religion of their ancestors and leave foreign gods


So why are you saying others should approach God the way you think if people can do so in DIVERSE ways?

Trading one's soul is common in the world but before you can fully grasp what this means you need to know what the devil possess that people are selling their souls to get!

Ken4Christ:
You must be born again first before you can follow his ways and examples.
A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruits.

And did he admit not being born again?

PastorAIO:
You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth now.
First you say that prophecy was until Jesus but then you say Joel was talking of prophecy at Pentecost which occurred after Jesus.

Let those having insight understand God's word. God only inspired Israelites regarding the coming of Christ and whatever has to do with the kingdom of God. So when Christ came no prophecy is given to anyone again except through Jesus' disciples who must get what we need because the Bible was only from Genesis to Malachi during Jesus' time. The completion must come through Jesus' disciples that's why God's Holy Spirit will work with them until the message is complete! 1Corinthians 13:8-10
After the completion of the Bible there will be no more supernatural gifts!

PastorAIO:
Meanwhile your cult gurus in watchtower continue to fail in their prophetic claims.
You can excuse them all you want but a god whose people cannot understand or make accurate prophecy is a useless god.

Call them whatever you like i wasn't born in their midst i saw the light by considering the FRUIT Jesus asked me to watch out for {Matthew 7:16-18} not prophecy because the God of Israel never promised gentiles the gift of prophecy!

Understanding Christianity will help you know that without the Church Jesus can't save you!

You must belong to his church before you can be saved.

When talking about personal relationship with God Jesus said each of his listeners should approach God individually {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to relationship with Christ Jesus said you can only have a dealing with him when you're with the Church! Matthew 18:20

WHY?

Because Jesus' assignment is to gather God's people and lead them to Salvation which means each prospective subject of God's Kingdom must walk with the congregation under Christ's headship. Ephesians 4:12

So without the Church Jesus has no business with you! John 17:20-23