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Wilgrea7:
Two can play at that game

Keep telling them your reasons for debating religion Sir!

Lukuluku69:
Oga Ade, he made a cord and beat them and drove them away afterwards. Haba read your Bible nah.
I won't quote the relevant portion. Go read it. He made a cord like a Whip and beat them with it and drove them away for selling and exchanging money at the Temple.
That you are a Muslim once is immaterial to this discourse of ours. There are Millions of people of other Faith who are now Muslims. So, putting yourself on the meaningless drone doesn't cut any ice with me.
My fears? Lol. Bros, I got no fear here. My Faith in islam is rock solid and my belief on the Messenger ship of Prophet Muhammad is unshakeable.
If I want to be saved? Saved from what? God's Salvation? That is for those who worship God and do His commandments.
And if you and in doubt of the Messengership of the Arabian Prophet, let me direct you to your own Bible.
Do you remember when the Jewish hierarchy sent of their lackeys to enquire who Jesus was?
They asked Jesus 3 questions
1. Art thou Elias?
2. Art thou the Messiah?
3. Art thou that Prophet?
Go read what Jesus response was and come back.

You're very funny walahi talahi!

So if a Muslim entered the mosque and did exactly what Jesus did to those doing what is not right inside the mosque anyone as in anybody could say a word against such action?

Hypocrisy is not good for your soul o!

Jesus disrupt the merchandise in God's house differs from using weapons to kill people for not agreeing with you. What Jesus did is lawful and everyone knew it's justified under the law but picking up weapons against one another yet claiming you're both worshipers of the same God makes no sense!

Mutant001:
your premise hold no water since you don't have evidence to backup your stupid opinion so it is null and void

Asia is the birthplace of 12 major religions, whose written records include Judaism, Hinduism, confucianism,Taoism, Shintoism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Jainism, Christianity, Islam, Sikhism and the Baha'i Faith.

In a nutshell people migrate from place to place so your analogy on gods of the land makes no sense!

Pimine:
As long as you agree to leave us alone, no wam!

He can't!
God's word says during the last days there will be a spiritual war between the forces of light and the agents of darkness.
The only way you can get to know of this is the way faithless people will be looking for ways to engage faithful people in arguments!
So they will become restless even though believers have a reason to talk to their neighbours about faith in God, atheists have nothing tangible to say yet they will be worried for no just course!

Wilgrea7:
WHAT... YOU.. ARE.. SAYING... IS .. NOT.. RELATED.. TO... THE.. POINT... I ... RAISED.... ADDRESS.. IT... OR... FORFEIT

"WHY YOU, AS AN ATHEIST, SPEND YOUR TIME DEBATING RELIGION"

Just to argue aimlessly!

Mutant001:
which part of asia did your ancestors migrate from?

The stories are complicated but one thing is certain they migrated to this part of the world!
So going by your logic they're supposed to be worshipers of the gods of the land of their origin not West African gods!

Mutant001:
which part of asia did your ancestors migrated from?

The stories are complicating because some say Saudi Arabia others say Iran still others say our ancestors with the Hausas from the same place.
So what really matters is that they migrated to this place therefore going by your logic they're supposed to be worshipers of the lands from where they came not gods of West Africa!

afficionado7:
Lol

True believers have a profitable target not just arguing up and down for fun!

Therefore, the way I am running is not aimlessly; the way I am aiming my blows is so as not to be striking the air! 1Corinthians 9:26

OgaNightmare:
So you've not received the holy spirit?
Romans:8.9
You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

What does the Holy Spirit do in a believer that will reflect on the person's life so that you can know for sure that God's Holy Spirit is WORKING in such a person?

Come on, if you don't understand my post ask questions!
If God's Holy Spirit is not working in me how do you think i could connect the scriptures to drive home my point? Luke 12:12-13

Once true disciples of Christ (JWs) start praying with an interested person the spirit of God will begin dwelling with the person. That's why Jesus said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

The two or three means those two JWs coming to discuss God's word with you (making three) {Luke 10:1} God will call Jesus' attention {John 6:44} then Jesus will direct angels to come and pen down your name along with the other two JWs with whom you're discussing about God's name (JEHOVAH) {Malachi 3:16} because Jesus is always with the JWs anywhere they go doing the work of his father! Matthew 28:18-20

So you can't have any relationship with Christ if you have nothing to do with his group, like everyone else you can talk to his father privately for your personal needs {Matthew 6:6} because his father opens His hands to all kinds of people whether good or evil {Matthew 5:41} but Christ only recognize you when you have a dealing with his body: the church! Matthew 18:20

BJanta:
But you now forgotten IPeter 3 : 2 - 6 that says ' when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear. Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror.
1Pe 3:2‭-‬6 NKJV

The main point Peter is emphasizing there is that the females in the Christian congregation should focus more on their good manners not outward appearance only.
Most women today do dress like mourners and old grandma claiming they're doing so for Jesus yet they're thorns in the flesh for their husbands!

Wilgrea7:
I don't know what you want me to say. Congratulations??
You have the ability to debate almost anyone on the flimsiest of topics relating to religion here on nairaland.. but when asked simple straightforward questions.. all of a sudden you don't debate aimlessly
That's the same excuse you used to run away from my thread on justifying old testament atrocities.
If you don't have a rebuttal.. then just say so. Trying to switch the goalpost to peace or bringing up irrelevant stories isn't doing anything for you

It does a lot!

Have you noticed that any atheist with whom you chat on this forum remain a total stranger to you despite the fact that both of you agreed to debunk the existence of God?

Well with each JW throughout the world i have a brother/sister relationship {Mark 10:29-30} that gives me the rest of mind that anyday anytime faithless people decides to start killing their neighbours on the ground of politics and racism {Revelations 6:3-4} i will be safe with my JW family anywhere i find myself around the globe but you instantly become a dead meat as the atheist you're chatting with on Nairaland can't relate with you after all both of you only agreed on whatever money can buy not faith in God or future peace! Psalms 115:4-8

Mutant001:
LMFAO
YOU ARE SO IRRATIONAL, ILLOGICAL AND ABSURD

READING IS THINKING WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S HEAD INSTEAD OF ONES OWN
ACCORDING TO YOUR STUPID HISTORY WRITTEN BY USELESS MEN WHAT PART OF ASIA DID YOUR ANCESTORS YORUBA MIGRATED FROM?
BECAUSE YOUR ILLOGICAL RUBBISH HAS NO HEAD AND TAIL IF YOU CAN'T PINPOINT WERE IN ASIA YOUR ANCESTORS MIGRATED FROM

INTELLECT IS INVINCIBLE TO THE MAN WHO HAS NONE
IF YOU CLAIM THAT WE ALL AS A CONTINENT MIGRATED FROM ASIA THEN WE AS HUMANS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME DNA BLOOD LINK AND THIS WILL CONTRADICT THE PROOF OF SCIENCE
AND ALSO WILL DEBUNK THE CLAIM THAT GOD IS THE GOD OF DIVERSITY WHICH YOU INADVERTENTLY CONTRADICTED YOURSELF ATTESTING TO THE FACT OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AS A RESULT OF GOD'S ACTION

THE GREATEST DECEIT IS SELF-DECEPTION AND SELF IMPOSED STUPIDITY YOU HAVE BROUGHT UPON YOURSELF

Sir, i'm not talking about your origin but mine so why are you always agitating as if others have no say in this discussion?

I am a Yorùbá man and according to our own history our ancestors migrated from Asia so if you're worshiping the gods of your land that's no problem but from our own history the gods of the land here in Western Nigeria shouldn't be our gods because going by your logic since our forefathers migrated from somewhere to this place we should be worshiping the gods of the place they came from!

MindHacker9009:
The 2nd coming happened in 70 AD when the Temple was destroyed.

NO!
The destruction of the temple that year marked the end of the old covenant not the second coming of Christ!
Jesus told the Jews that he is the same guardian angel who has been putting up with all their rebellious attitudes {Matthew 23:37 compare to Daniel 12:1} but since they rejected him God has also rejected that nation and a new nation has replaced them {Matthew 21:43} so after his last breath on the torture stake {John 19:30} the large curtain between the holy and most holy room in the temple reaped apart {Matthew 27:51} of course those faithless priests in the temple won't tell their people so they may not correlate such event with the passing away of Jesus who claims he's the Christ (Son of God) Matthew 27:54

So after the Christian congregation has been firmly established God brought His judgment against that faithless nation but before then the chosen nation (Jewish disciples of Christ) has left Judea in obedience to Christ's order! Luke 21:20-24

That was how the disciples of Christ were saved that year but for most Jews living in Judea it was an event they will forever remember throughout their generations!

OBALOLA55:
IF YOU DIE BELIEVING THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD, MY BROTHER I FEAR FOR YOU O

Whoever die without believing Jesus Christ is the Son of God is in trouble!

OBALOLA55:
MEANING THAT HOLY MARY IS THE WIFE OF GOD

NO!
If you don't understand something try to ask {Matthew 7:7} calling anyone antichrist makes you a clown because nobody (claiming Christian) will agree with you that Christ is not God's Son!
So try to ask them to explain instead of looking for someone claiming Christian that will agree with your Muslim opinion on the topic!

OBALOLA55:
I BELIEVE IN CHRIST AS A PROPHET OF GOD AND NOT SON OF GOD

That's exactly where you got it wrong because the Israelites believe there are many prophets of God according to the scriptures but one of them will be the Christ. They don't agree that there are more than one Christ so the Christ is more than just a prophet but the Son of God!

OBALOLA55:
DON’T ARGUE WITH THESE HELL-BOUND ANTI-CHRISTS

Walahi talahi you're a clown!

You that you don't believe in Christ at all calling others ANTICHRIST!

Jokerman:
It's not a joke neither is it a prank

Oh so you mean jokerman is serious with this funny post?
Well that's a lie anyway, make-up belongs to the females they always try to look beautiful to COMPLIMENT their own husbands! Genesis 2:18

derecho:
Like I said, finding the truth yourself is more important than finding out who agrees or disagrees.
We study to show ourselves approved unto God not man...

I'm just curious since your write-up is all about conviction, anyway you've cleared my doubt it's whatever anyone concludes!

Jokerman:
When a woman is spoiled, she goes into make up, jewellery and their ilk. Jeremiah 4:30.
Also , make up was taught to humans by the fallen angels e.g samael, Azazel etc.
Presently, their a spiritual underwater factory perpetrated by marine defeated powers e.g sirens, medussa etc, producing these items in manifold proportions.
Children of God would do well to avoid the usage of these items.

This is a prank (joke) right!

derecho:
The Rapture and Christ Second Coming are two different things.Personal beliefs is immaterial
Study your Bible to understand yourself.

If this is your PERSONAL belief do you think it's the same with others?
Because some people's belief may contradict yours!

OkCornel:
Are you so dense?

Point out where I mentioned “Moses never existed.”

You don’t have to be a shameless liar to score non existent points.

I’ve just shown you how shallow your thought process is. Since according to you, someone must reply you on nairaland as evidence of existence.

Get your single digit IQ off my mentions.

OkCornel i'm not your friend (sonmvayina) me i go bite you o!

cornelboy:
Lol.
What gives you the guts to call JW cult?
What makes them a cult exactly?

He is a confirmed atheist!

The truth exceeds the idea of religion if you're a true Christian you should be able to convince others that you have the truth with logical reasoning! 2Timothy 3:16-17 compare to Act 26:24-28

As long as people agree with the idea that man should govern his fellow man then terrorism is inevitable! Genesis 2:17

Rozross:
� good morning sir

Morning my angel!

Wilgrea7:
I am more than willing to debate you on the points you've mentioned above...
But as I've said before, the things you're talking about here.. and the statement I made earlier about circular reasoning are 2 different discussions.
Address mine first and I'll address yours. Do NOT shift the goalpost

I'm an ex agent of the Intelligence and i once worked with my colleagues securing the venue where the world's most famous atheists met.

That day i learned something strange in their gathering: they just love talking with people aimlessly!

So i've made it a point of duty that anytime i come in contact with an atheist the first thing i will target is what to gain from our debate if there's nothing then it's better to let each person be on his or her own.
Right thinking adults shouldn't just come together to debate aimlessly! 1Corinthians 9:26

afficionado7:
Lol. I'm done. As always, they just want to WIN an argument

"No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah" Isaiah 54:17

When dealing with misinformed religionists you will see yourself making sense but not with the worshipers of the true God because we will make you see how low your IQ!

Rozross:
Nairaland Randy men should come and read

It's unthinkable questioning the way others use their brains when people agree with freethinking.
That's why Jesus emphasized the need for all his disciples to have the same line of thought just as he had with his God! John 17:22

Wilgrea7:
I don't know if missing the point is something you consciously do, or if it's an involuntary thing for you at this point.
Whether people practice what's in the book or not is completely irrelevant. I never talked about benefitting from anything.
I made a statement about trying to prove a book by said book.. resulting in circular reasoning. Address that first before you start talking about benefits.. Finish one thing before jumping to the other.

This is where we always have issues, people don't just come together to argue aimlessly there must be something to benefit otherwise it's worthless arguing just for the fun of it.

If billions of people takes a book seriously and you feel they should do the same with another book then you as an intelligent being should first consider what benefit they derive from the book in question perhaps they can get the same from your own book if not better, but insisting that intelligent beings like you should consider something they can't see it's benefits makes your sanity questionable!

sonmvayina:
Lol...
Jesus and Moses never existed...
So jokes on you..

Walahi talahi you're the most confused person on this forum!

You always insist on the Mosaic laws as God's laws saying the Jews believe only in the Mosaic laws yet you're saying Moses never existed so the Jews also believe Moses never existed and fabricated those laws from Babylon and you agreed with them shey?

Assuming that's true then why are you always worried if Jesus was also fabricated by Romans and the world accepted the fabrication the same way they accepted Babylonian mythology nah?

OkCornel:
Then why bother quoting me when you believe they never existed?

He has learned a lot on this forum he's just trying to prove stubborn when it's clear that he is totally confused!