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VenumX:
But you are an islamist. You haven't even accepted Jesus nor have you embraced his teachings. Did Jesus call Lazarus sisters who were his friends worthless?
Your words are demon inspired that is why you are an Antichrist.

Jesus had several siblings but only the names of males were recorded {Matthew 13:55} under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit directed by no other person but Jesus himself! John 16:12-13

So the female are WORTHLESS without the males God created female humans to support the male, so in the absence of males there's no need for females! 1Corinthians 11:8

Rozross:
� � � I keep wondering why all atheists are quick to deny their belief

They're worshipers of what money can buy!

The only person an atheist can accept to learn from is someone who has acquired material possessions. They worship money!

So JEHOVAH the true God foretold that during the endtime that money can't console them when God's own people are richly blessed with divine wisdom:

Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Look! My servants will eat, but you will go hungry. Look! My servants will drink, but you will go thirsty. Look! My servants will rejoice, but you will suffer shame. Look! My servants will shout joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, But you will cry out because of the pain of heart And you will wail because of a broken spirit! Isaiah 65:13-14

They never had faith in God when they were in the religions they left their love was for money {2Timothy 3:2} so after they are disappointed they want everyone else to join them in turning against the word of God!

cornelboy:
The forty years wandering was a punishment for them.

He's a sadist who has been frustrated in life.
Can you believe this same idiot was begging for financial assistance on Nairaland for help on family section:

https://www.nairaland.com/6119098/dying-soul

But when they didn't respond this ingrate rushed to the religious section to start begging the same Churchgoers he's criticizing for help

https://www.nairaland.com/5945256/save-wife-child

I told him back then that had it been he's a believer at least members of the house of faith will not abandon his wife and child to die in the hospital. That's the BENEFIT of having a spiritual family!

He was quiet that day just because he's begging for help but afterwards he has dealt ruthlessly with the lady and another lady came to Nairaland to expose him as a deadly wife beater.

So you don't need wasting your time with him he's not sane!

VenumX:
She bowed to your twisted interpretation and you feel flattered. All of a sudden, a female's remarks mean so much to you...someone you haven't met...someone you call worthless without a man. Your delusion and hypocrisy is epic. Go raising your hand in your church and spilling the garbage you just spewed here and see if you would be looked at as a normal human being. Antichrist.

Your type condemned Jesus for speaking the truth {John 10:20} so who am i? Matthew 10:25

Rozross:
Online proud atheist �. Go to your street with speakers and announce this, let’s see if you are proud of what you preach

He's a confirmed atheist!

He wants to attack faith in Jesus but stupidly he is condemning himself!

He claims he's a traditionalist saying everyone should return to the religion of their ancestors, i told him what my ancestors claimed about their origin he became annoyed and now he's saying there's no heaven but our people believe that Oduduwa, Ògún, Ọ̀ṣun, Ọbàtálá, Ọ̀ṣẹ̀rẹ̀màgbò, Ọ̀sanyin and many more came from HEAVEN!

VenumX:
Oh, she is now your God to judge for you.
Why not tell her to join your church and hear what she will say since you have used her as a yardstick to know if you reason normally or not? Antichrist.

I quoted God's word and she bowed not to me but to the authority i quoted: Bible!

So her attitude has judged you that a woman can hear the truth and submit to God's will if you're not ready!

bukky1994:
impressive! why are you not a pastor?

That's what a lady typed after reading the same comment you're complaining about so her response has judged you already!

VenumX:
What an Antichrist.
You can't even answer the question. You are not interested in human philosophy yet you are teaching yours. Something that Christ never uttered...not even God himself.
Call any human worthless again and see where you will end up.
Boko harram cameleon.

Mutant001:
you are just an incompetent BUFFON who is bound to the chain of everlasting slavery, ignorance, self imposed Stupidity and foolishness.

You will die a slave even in death but let me remind you in your schizophrenic world they is no heaven
Now run along like the slave you are....zombieidiot

Thanks for the compliment Sir!

bobchigar:
How do you know who is doing God's wills ?

If you diligently study the Bible and thoroughly meditate on what you're reading you will know those doing God's will around you.
Take for instance during the first century a man named Jesus appeared from nowhere and after going to a popular prophet known as John the baptist Jesus began preaching and teaching throughout all Judea and gathering disciples. John whom all Israelites recognized as a prophet of God never performed a single miracle but Jesus was performing great miracles that Israelites have never heard before in their history {John 10:41} so why did many Jews believe in Jesus? Was it because of his miraculous works?
NO!
Because at that same time Pharisees also have men among them performing miracles too! Matthew 12:27
So what indisputable reason do many Jews have for believing in Jesus of Nazareth?

Well it's because he was fulfilling what the prophets before his has foretold before then which means what he's doing is already part of God's plan! John 10:41-42



Again after Jesus' ascension to heaven most Jews have concluded that the man is no more and just as they're about to forget him another spectacular event occurred in Jerusalem at pentecost, his disciples gathered in a place and they were baptized by God's Holy Spirit then they came out preaching boldly and confidently about Jesus of Nazareth claiming he has been resurrected from the dead!

This event also fulfilled a prophecy foretold centuries before Jesus Christ {Joel 2:28-30 compare to Act 2:16-18} at first when Jews saw this they concluded this men are drunk but when Peter reminded them of the prophecy the event is fulfilling they were all beaten to the heart and they humbly begged Peter and the others to tell them what they're to do in support of God's will fulfilling in their eyes! Act 2:37

So Miracles occur in support of God's will to help faithful people know the time God's spirit is gathering them to support God's will but Magic has no purpose it's just for shows!

Today there is a group doing God's will globally if you want to know the PROPHECIES pointing to what they're doing today i will tell you.
May you have PEACE!

bobchigar:
What are the conditions to know if any of these agents is performing Miracle or Magic?

Miracles has a purpose for which it occurs by God's Holy Spirit and it only involves those doing the will of God but magic is imitation by demons trying to complicate things making the onlookers feel It's from the same source.

So if you're not interested in knowing God's will you can't differentiate between Miracles and Magic that's why Jesus said"

"By their FRUITS you will know the difference"Matthew 7:16
Because Magic will only happen just for show bur Miracles have something to do with God's plan for mankind!

Sixfiguresmart:
surah 23:5 those who guard their private parts
surah 23:6 except with their wives or those women captured in their possession, for then they are free from blame,

This is what the religion is all about?

Stop quoting their book nah?

Mutant001:
sometimes you have to insult them to spark a little sense in them What I won't tolerate is a zombie telling me his god is superior to mine

Your aggression and fierceness won't change anything!

This is not Islam where you don't know what to do apart from saying
"one prophet of God did the same"
There's reason for everything, true worshipers of God can explain in details!

Lukuluku69:
Continue with the Comedy nah.

Sunny Okosun ~ Which way Nigeria!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Wilgrea7:
If you find flaws in your argument I'll quote you... Don't worry .. I'll go easy on you

There is NO FLAWS in what brings benefits you can't find elsewhere!

MrBrownJay1:
ABRAHAM did it
KING SOLOMON did it
KING DAVID did it
...and they were never seen as sinners (its only when one of them fukcED a "married" woman that he was viewed as a sinner)

Abraham married his sister {Genesis 20:12} but God later condemned such a thing does that makes Abraham a sinner?
NO!
God permitted so many things to allow humans experience the outcome before he will tell obedient ones what to do!

Polygamy is evil but since Adam chose to do what pleases him God also allowed Adam's descendants to experience the consequences of their father's rebellion.

God is not killing women marrying more than one husbands just as He permitted men marrying more wives!

VenumX:
'Woman is worthless without a man'
'Woman bow to her husband'
You should have remained in Islam rather than carry your misogynistic ideologies to that place and twist the scriptures to suit your personal faulty and questionable thoughts.
I ask you again, is that what they teach you in that church?

You already have the scriptures so argue with it i'm not interested in human philosophy!

Wilgrea7:
Oya na .. dey go
See road

Great!
So you won't quote me again until you're ready to tell me the benefits there is in quoting me, right?

faithsurvey:
Islam and Christianity compared with 20 points

I noticed you've been trying to say something but you're making a totally wrong comparison because you don't know what Christianity is for real.

Well if you're interested in meaningful comparison between the two religions i can help so both of us can draw the line.
From your write-up you don't know what Christ came to establish but what you're seeing around you!

Wilgrea7:
You just exposed yourself mate.
So much for atheism huh?

Where there is real benefits everyone agrees it's when there's no real benefits that each goes there ways!

Wilgrea7:
The fact that you think seeing a debate from multiple sides is somehow the same as saying "stick to you idea while i stick to mine" is somewhat troubling to me. They are polar opposites. Seeing a debate from 2 angles helps you to look at things more open-mindedly, rather than with a myopic mindset. When you see things from multiple sides, you get to compare objectively, and possibly learn something new.
You on the other hand... you know what? ... I won't even.

So far you enjoy the multiple side no wahala, i detests multiple sides in debates meaning you and i aren't on the same page, so dey your dey make i dey my dey!

Wilgrea7:
Sometimes you marvel me. How is seeing a debate from multiple sides the same as sticking to your own ideas after the long argument? Like..

The highlighted is the same as saying "stick to your idea while i stick to mine" that's atheism for you.

But when talking about real benefits we agree to know the way forward! John 17:22

Wilgrea7:
I don't get your point. I've identified my own benefits.. Exchanging ideas, and helping people see debates from multiple sides.
What's paining you there?

People see debates from multiple sides means each person should stick to his own ideas after the long argument, then everyone walk away with nothing thereafter.

Well my benefit is gaining someone over so that the person becomes my family by faith! Mark 10:29-30

Wilgrea7:
Tell me Maximus... What benefit did you gain from this precise comment you just posted?
Mr "I dOnT pOsT wItHoUt bEnEfIts"

The person i quoted got the message that it's senseless buying data, charging device, spending time and cracking brains all just to argue for no benefits!

ChocolateWine:
I'm tired of repeating the same thing. Someone else might explain better.
And I'm also lost in your train of argument. Sorry about that. Bye

That's the result of arguing with someone who just feel like arguing aimlessly!

MindHacker9009:
How was Matthew 17:1-9 referring to: the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
Continue to confuss yourself just because you don't want to beleive what Jesus has said

So you now agree that Jesus is a real historical figure, shey?

Don't worry it's a gradual process!

Wilgrea7:
With every discussion... We have the opportunity to learn something new... In addition to that.. we have the opportunity to teach... not just the person we're discussing with, but the silent person who also reads the discussion for knowledge and clarification.
There... I've identified your benefit
A forum and a walkway are NOT the same thing. A place where people discuss and a place where people pass through are not the same. Whether or not you choose to gain something from the discussion is up to you.
I've gone through your posts.. The so called benefits you claim to champion are absent from a lot of them.
The way I see it.. It's just a word you run to when your circular arguments fail to help you out
But I won't drag this on further. The topic of this thread is why people believe their specific God is the creator.
Let's stick to the topic please

Just what we're going to gain from discussing!

I prefer chatting with a person who will first tell me what we'll benefit from the discussion so chat with others who don't care but with i (Maximus) think BENEFITS first before quoting me!

Wilgrea7:
Nairaland is a forum where people with different beliefs and ideologies come together to discuss. If you don't want to be mentioned.. or don't want your statements to be criticized.. then don't post. This is not an echo chamber for christian or JW ideas. It is a religious forum for discussion. If you don't have a rebuttal, just say so. No one will beat you

You can continue with your criticism but if you want me to chat with you then you have to let me know what we can benefit in the discussion.

Yes Nairaland is like a big walkway where people are passing, of course it makes no sense walking up to people trying to engage them in discussions when there's no benefits, nah!

Wilgrea7:
I'm going to ignore your peace and war narrative because i simply cannot with you at this point.

Please at any point in time you think of quoting me remember my nickname: "Mr Benefits"
So in the absence of benefits please do not mention me at all, i'm not the type that buy data, charge my device, spend my precious time and crack my brains for no benefits! 1Corinthians 9:26; Ephesians 5:15-17

Thanks!

Hope2014:
Are you JW?

YES!

bukky1994:
impressive! why are you not a pastor?

I am serving as a minister among God's people: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

VenumX:
Is that what they teach you in your church? That women are worthless without men? That a madam dresses to impress her houseboy?

The woman was created because of man! 1Corinthians 11:8 compare to 1Timothy 2:11-15

VenumX:
What has jewelries got to do with submissiveness?

The jewelries are made of costly pearls so the one putting it on commands respect from onlookers and admirers, but if she's a faithful woman no matter how costly her jewelries and adornment she will always bow to her own husband even if he's not gorgeously dressed! Titus 2:5

VenumX:
Who brought submissiveness into this when there are gazillions of single females and even males who wear jewelries?

Of course single females out there may look as if they're not ready to submit to any man but don't be deceived by their looks each woman has a taste and they fall flat for the man of their choice even if he's not as rich as they're.
Do not think they don't have any man in their heart it's just that when the man they're eyeing refuse to approach them they'll settle for the one that comes forward but even after they've gotten married to their second choice they're still available anyday anytime for their first choice that's why most women cheat on their husbands.
So do not be deceived when you love somebody someone somewhere also loves you dearly but in most cases many don't know!