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Janosky:
Courz PATHOLOGICAL LIAR
The video is banned from YouTube.
You posted your own copy NOT YouTube.
Just as Your cronies did.

This thread has disqualified all other religions claiming Christians today!

Is The Watchtower Organization A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scriptures?

Answer:

YES!

If anyone has a better option then present it. Period!

Dtruthspeaker:
Just like the Israelites, you people never listen to God nor walk in The Way God commanded.
So, Christ came one last time to get all of you to walk once again in The Way God has Set to save you.
But as usual, again, you people never listen nor obey!
How insane, you already know that Jesus Christ of Nazareth was sent to Isreal and yet you claim Him. Isn't it mad that you should have abandoned Mohammed only to take Israel's Lord?
Putting your madness aside, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, did clearly command, Mathew 19:17
"If thou wilt enter into Life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS!
Case Closed!

OLÈÈÈÈÈÈ!

No more tithes for pastors so go and find work to do!

Jesus' commandment totally differs from what God commanded the nation of Israel.
Everyone can clearly see that as we all read the sermon on the mount!

immaculatesense:
Dear MaxinDHouse
Please who teaches u all this concocted (to be polite) statement without facts and scriptural references? You did even quote a scripture to back ur three ambiguous statement? You are wiser than this na.
Not all believers will meet Jesus?Pliss who will be left?
Can u explain
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
[16]For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the believers who have died will rise from their graves.
[17]Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever.

I've told you to enroll for free home Bible study or you continue following misinformed Churchgoers up and down.
You and i aren't worshiping the same God!

In the beginning God never promised anyone heaven it's the earth that God always promise His faithful servants {Psalms 37:9-11, 29} but because the nation of Israelites was condemned with their city (Jerusalem) which supposed to be the center of God's Kingdom on earth {Matthew 23:37-38} Jesus reassured his faithful friends that God's promise of making Jews the first race is still on but the government house of God's Kingdom will no longer be on planet earth rather he is taking his co-rulers to where he came from "heaven" {John 14:1-3} so God's Kingdom will reign on planet earth but the rulers along with Jesus Christ will be in heaven!
The co-rulers are limited in number that's why Jesus often refer to them as "little flock" {Luke 12:32} they will become creatures without flesh so they can't marry like all other faithful servants of God again! Luke 20:34-36
But countless faithful servants of God and other Christians will live forever on planet earth {Matthew 5:5} that's why Jesus said John the baptist never qualified to join those going to heaven though because he was not baptized in spirit! Matthew 11:11-12

They will die first?
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
[51]But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
[52]It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed.

Just as Christ died and his body was buried all born again Christians will also die and be buried like seeds sown in the ground {1Corinthians 15:43} but some of them will not spend a second in their graves after the first set has been taken to heaven {1Thessalonians 4:17} others must wait until Michael (the Archangel) call them! 1Thessalonians 4:16

Nobody will see them?
Matthew 24:30
[30]And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Again...u are wiser than being receptive of every single teaching without even cross confirming

They will be taken to heaven as spirit beings so nobody can see them physically when they're moving but those on the earth will feel their departure!

dogmart:
Smiles. I do not claim to have full knowledge of
God, as I am a continuously growing student of his word

Let's go into the bible. For that is the light unto our path.

There was an account in the bible book of Luke 9:51-55

51"As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. 52 And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; 53 but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. 54 When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?” 55 But Jesus turned and rebuked them. 56 Then he and his disciples went to another village.

This is self explanatory.

Christ is our model. We are CHRISTIANS. We were first called Christians in Antioch because we were seen to be CHRIST LIKE in nature.

If you are practicing what Christ rebuked. U are not Christ like.

I need not say more.
May the Lord himself teach his word and expose all the work of darkness lurking in the church.
Amen.

They just love to be called "CHRISTIANS" they don't want to subject themselves to what the Christ commanded! Matthew 15:7-9

Truvelisback:
U lie.

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn, stop being heady over nothing!
I have quoted what the law says and shown you what was wrong in their judgment but it's obvious you're just being heady!

cornelboy:
His moniker and his reasoning converse each other.

He wants to be called "the speaker of truth" but he detests the truth!

Of course the Christ is what all servants of God has been waiting for. From Abel till John the baptist, the law wasn't given to Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph yet they were all declared "RIGHTEOUS" without those laws but because they were longing to see the Messiah (Christ) who is the complete image of God through whom they can learn about all the qualities needed for salvation {Galatians 3:10:14} not the laws given to the nation of Israel in preparation for the coming of Christ!

I just don't know why this could be so difficult for people with working brians to grasp!

Truvelisback:
Why didn't Jesus tell them to stone her death?

Because it's against the law!

Both adulterer and the adulteress must die.
But their judgment is jungle justice, that's why they're seeking the consent of a prophet of God. Neither Moses nor Elijah will approve such judgment because that's not what God's law says!

Truvelisback:
U are just talking out of point. Did Jesus say anything abt her partner? Why are u adding ur own word to the scripture?

Of course he did!
Because if they had brought both criminals out for stoning as stated in their constitution they won't have any need to ask Jesus what to do. But they're feeling guilty because the accomplice has been freed instead of dying alongside his partner in crime.
So when Jesus asked "let the one without sin cast the first stone" they knew he's referring to their hypocrisy for not doing exactly what the law says!

Dtruthspeaker:
And the Bible and Paul and Christ is teaching us how we can successfully and sweetly reach our Destination, which was the Issue.
But because of you are evil you were trying to CHANGE POST to "after reaching your destination"
Now, you have stopped at the correct place I stopped saying
"Nobody mounts his horse and start traveling through all the rigorous journey again after reaching a happy destination"
See how a big fraud and serpenty you are?
If you don't respond to me I would not quote you.

If Christ is our destination and Christ has come do we still need to travel back to the history of the Israelites and start memorizing the laws God gave them as a nation in order to prepare them for the Christ? Galatians 3:19-25

You're just beating about the bush!
Christians only need Jesus Christ of Nazareth we have nothing as in NOTHING to do with the constitution God gave the nation of Israel.
Period!

Truvelisback:
Now listen, the law stated that, anyone who is caught in the very act should be stoned to death. This implies that, if u aren't caught in the very act, u are free. It's just like one Cheating in the exam hall. As long as u aren't caught in the act, u can't be persecuted.

That's exactly what Jesus is saying!
If they have caught her, where is her partner in crime?
Should she bear the punishment alone when the law demands that both should be killed?
Even God says bestialists along with the beast they committed bestiality must be killed, so what happens to her partner in crime?
David committed adultery with Bathsheba, he himself said whoever has done such must be killed but was he killed for it? NO!
So that means those rendering the judgment aren't just themselves, that's what Jesus is saying. But in God's Kingdom no adulterer will continue living in there because God's Kingdom will not permit such acts! Galatians 5:19-21

Dtruthspeaker:
Ezekiel 33:7-12
Again, you show you are Satan by your Lie and Deceit for it is not written in Deuteronomy 18:18 "whose laws will not be the same as what they heard from Moses!" as you have added to the Bible.
Thou shalt perish in the fire with Satan!

I've told you the fact Mr Churchgoer Pastor, "stop quoting me"
Because your churchy brain can't figure out what i'm saying.

I didn't say i quoted Deuteronomy 18:1-19 word for word but it's clear that after the comprehensive laws given to the Israelites through Moses if God say there is another prophet coming to teach them in the future it simply means it couldn't have been the same thing. That's the point churchgoer.

And stop this your childish attitude of wishing people that disagree with you the fairy tale HellFire because there's nothing of that nature!

Dtruthspeaker:
Always going off point and off issue when you have no thing to say even when it is known that like ludo pieces we are trying to get home to Christ and Christ is the Destination.

But here you are trying to move the post again exactly as Satan does!

You know what? Just stop quoting me because your brains that's cloned with churchy deceit can't grasp what i'm saying.

I only follow your logic which proves that you don't know what you're saying!

Nobody mounts his horse and start traveling through all the rigorous journey again after reaching a happy destination!

immaculatesense:
Dear MaxinDHouse
I wonder why people look for trouble where there is none.
In ur first question that u asked and I quote"where is the word Rapture in ur Bible"?
U ursef used the word Bible,but now u say JW never used Bible and I av also met with ur people(great people) in our discussion saying please open ur "Bible" to...
My Point.
No Christian(me) will tell u that there is the word Rapture in the scriptures...just like the word "Pulpit" for Podium and many more words like dat. Like I said, as long as the interpretation of Rapture doesn't in any way substitute the meaning of Ressurrection of the dead and the living then to me it's just synonyms. But if it in any way substitute the meaning of the Ressurrection of the living and the dead then there is a problem. That's why I said to u...if u av had people preaching the rapture in a wrong way...den u can challenge them just like some people including JW has thought the second coming wrongly for years until they in the 20th century 1976 specifically decided to jettison the prediction and great pyramid fallacy and they admit that "things(knowledge) gets clearer and clearer as time goes on". I am not going to castigate u for that Charles Russell's and his early predecessors for those changes of time from 1914 to 1965...and don't think anyone who uses the word Rapture believes it as thought by John Nelson Darby in the 1830...
As against Darby's teaching,I do not believe the Ressurrection of the living and the dead(Rapture) is at different time from the second coming...I believe the second coming and the Ressurrection is at the same time.
2 Thessalonians 2:1
[1]Now, dear brothers and sisters, let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him.

It is wen he is coming that we(living and dead) will be gathered to meet him

You just like telling useless stories!

JWs don't write BIBLE on the cover of their translation, resurrection has a totally different meaning which is rising again from the dead, only those born of spirit will go and meet Jesus in heaven not all believers, and they're not going bodily but as spirit beings which means nobody will see them because they will die first before they can be transformed!

So that word RAPTURE has no place in God's word!

Truvelisback:
Stop decieving urself. U are now using the New Testament Law to defend urself. Jesus didn't act on the law, otherwise, he acted on grace. By the Old testament law, the woman should be stoned to death.

You're missing what Jesus taught Sir!

According to the law no single person can commit adultery without a partner in crime so those people are hypocrites, the law never asked them to stone only the female but both sinners. Leviticus 20:11
So Jesus is indirectly telling them that one of them if not two or three must have been with this same woman in the past and they should also have been stoned to death.
OK if they're denying that they've not been with her before, where is the accomplice?
Or did the woman singlehandedly committed adultery?

Truvelisback:
If Jesus lived lived His life in obedience of God's old Covenant Law, He would have approved the stoning to death of the woman caught in adultery act. The Old Covenant Law stated that anyone caught in the very act should be stoned to death.

Jesus never disapprove the stoning, what he said is such stoning should be carried out by those without sin (angels) that's why he always emphasize that his own law enforcement agents aren't humans! John 18:36

So Jesus is indirectly telling us that all of us (imperfect sinful humans) supposed to be stoned to death {Romans 3:23; 5:12} therefore instead of pelting our fellow sinner to death with stones we supposed to be sober and look for ways to help our neighbour who needs help to regain his stand with God instead of ending his/her life.

May you have PEACE!

OkCornel:
Joke of the decade.
I’ll add this to the list of other predicted “antichrists”.

The number 666 means POLITICS & RELIGION merged together with motive of infusing the love of nationalism in the hearts of millions.

There has been seven world powers in the past:
©EGYPT

©ASSYRIA (SOUTHERN IRAN)

©BABYLON (IRAQ)

©MEDO-PERSIA (ORIENTS/ NORTHERN IRAN)

©GREECE

©ROME

©ENGLISH-AMERICAN

The first man ever in the history of mankind to merge politics with religion is known as Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, he introduced the National Anthem with the motive of making his subjects feel that whoever is loyal to the sovereignty of Babylon should publicly declared by worshiping the image he built.

Now this man is SIX feet tall, the image he built is SIXTY feet tall and he has a cabinet (ministers, senators and representatives) all numbering SIX HUNDRED.

After him other nations dominating the earth followed his footstep initiating the National Anthem even including the pledge!

Today politicians are using false religions to promote their career and carrying millions along in their selfish motives all in the name of Nationalism.

This has resulted in the attacks on God's servants including Jesus' disciples sent to preach and teach people throughout the world about God's own government (God's Kingdom) many of them has been killed by those having to do with 666 the spiritual identify of all politicians! Revelations 17:6

Wilgrea7:
In the biblical times, the word "heavens" often referred to the sky, and all other bodies humans could observe from the earth, like the moon, sun, and stars. They believed it to be all part of the firmament.

YES! And that means God resides in another kind of HEAVEN the spirit realms not the physical!

Dtruthspeaker:
Meaning "Christ is the Destination of The Law"!
That is what it means in the language of Law. And Paul is a Lawyer, so that is what he was saying.

So after reaching your DESTINATION do you mount your horse and start going back through the journey again? Galatians 3:23-25

Dtruthspeaker:
I have already borne the burden of overtaking your death causing error and pointing out same as The Law hath commanded.

Commanded what?
You just like quoting me when you have no knowledge whatsoever to decipher the TRUTH of God's word.

Christ's laws totally differs from the Mosaic laws that's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob forewarned the Israelites to be aware of the mission of the Christ whose laws will not be the same as what they heard from Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Note that God never promised anyone salvation through the Mosaic laws but in Christ Jesus salvation is CERTAIN! John 3:16

"In the beginning God created the HEAVENS and the EARTH" Genesis 1:1

Note the HEAVENS (plural) and the EARTH (singular) the former refers to mansions and mighty spirit beings resides while the later refers to a place for physical creatures.
So God is in heaven before creating more as in HEAVENS!

Dtruthspeaker:
Even Christ Jesus, Clearly Said
Mathew 19:17
"If thou wilt enter into Life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS!
See how you disgrace yourself!
"A fool's mouth is his destruction,"

Funny Churchgoer!

And what did you know about the LAWS (COMMANDMENTS) of the CHRIST? Galatians 6:2

Let them pray in the way and manner that's ok from their own reasoning {Matthew 17:5} and see who seals such prayer, whether it's the same AMEN (Jesus Christ) whom they're rejecting his words {Revelations 3:14} or another Jesus from God knows where!

No wahala please allow those who has ears listen to the TRUTH for their salvation in CHRIST Jesus not in the Mosaic laws! Romans 10:4

Dtruthspeaker:
You have completely departed from the issue and gone elsewhere in proof that you have no thing!

elated177:
Just for the purpose of what you have introduced. Who is Yahushua the Messiah? What does it mean to look intently at him? How does one do so?

MaxInDHouse:
All we need is to continue looking intently at him making his thoughts, words and actions our law! Romans 10:4

This is what God meant when He promised to establish a new COVENANT and write His laws in the hearts of obedient mankind! Jeremiah 31:31-34

Instead of studying laws and reading it with your neighbours you must recall the life and ministry of Jesus Christ then meditate on his thoughts, words and actions. So if the Christ use to kill his enemies then you're justified before God to do the same, if the Christ use to curse his enemies then you can do likewise, if the Christ approves having multiple partners in marriage then you too can do so.
That's how the LAWS are WRITTEN in people's hearts not when you start traveling back to the COVENANT God made between Himself and the ancient nation of Israel!

Dtruthspeaker:
Talking Rubbish! Romans 3:1/2 answers you.
What advantage then hath the Jew? ...
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the ORACLES OF God.
Deuteronomy 32:1
"Give ear, ...; and hear, O earth, The Words of My Mouth"
But now you tell the world not to hear What The Lord hath Spoken! And you say are not satan!
Do you not herein in prove that Truth with your lying that you are not Satan?

The God in question specifically stated in His words that the laws He gave Moses seals the COVENANT between Him and that Nation:

Then Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain and said, "This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: ’You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites." Exodus 19:3-6

According to what He said that covenant will be the prerequisite for what He promised their father Abraham which is salvation of all the tribes of the earth {Genesis 12:1-3} Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph never knew all what this God gave Moses as laws that's the more reason the Israelites kept turning away from those laws because none of their ancestors lived by these laws!

So those laws are to guide them until the Messiah (Christ) comes to establish the EVERLASTING COVENANT through which all obedient mankind will be SAVED! Jeremiah 31:31

On this planet today there is no nation even among the Jews that's fully practicing what is found written in those laws!
WHY?
Because it's not what God meant to use to save mankind it was just like a mirror for that nation to see why we need a saviour humans are doomed due to sin mankind needs a cleanser that's the purpose God gave the Israelites those laws it wasn't meant for the whole world but to enlighten the descendants of Abraham what lies ahead which is the assignment of going to teach all nations how to be saved.
And now that the cleanser has come nobody needs those laws again, what we all need now is CHRIST for our SALVATION not those laws! Galatians 3:23-25

I know this will shock most of you who enslaves your fellowman under the disguise of Mosaic laws to collect TITHES from them {Matthew 23:23-24} but i'm sorry we just have to face the TRUTH! John 8:32

immaculatesense:
Lol...it can work with Bible.. but not with Rapture right?...I get u...and dats funny.
In case u don't know... Rapture means Ressurrection of both the living and the dead.. just as Bible means compilation of books.
So stop beating about the bush on just synonyms.

Or does rapture has another hidden meaning to u that u don't like or subscribed to?
Ask...u know I will clarify tinz for u

The word Bible is not compulsory that's why the JWs never wrote "BIBLE" on their version of the scriptures. But when it comes to what the scriptures contains it shouldn't be what we can't find word for word in it.
For your information the word RAPTURE means different things and as for resurrection it's clearly pronounced in the scriptures as RESURRECTION not RAPTURE. It simply means "standing up" because it only applies to the dead and not the living!
So if you have some dogmatic teachings i'm not opposed to it after all that's what most religions do but insisting that it has to do with the word of God is totally unacceptable.
Resurrection is not RAPTURE please get that straight!

elated177:
Deut 15: 7 If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land YHVH your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. 8 Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need. 9 Be careful not to harbor this wicked thought: “The seventh year, the year for canceling debts, is near,” so that you do not show ill will toward the needy among your fellow Israelites and give them nothing. They may then appeal to YHVH against you, and you will be found guilty of sin. 10 Give generously to them and do so without a grudging heart; then because of this YHVH your God will bless you in all your work and in everything you put your hand to. 11 There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.
What were you saying again, maxindhouse?

God established a nation and gave them laws that will guide them until the Christ comes {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so whatever you read in the Bible before Jesus' time only applies to the nation God established but after the Christ nobody should return to those laws because our salvation is here: Christ Jesus!

All we need is to continue looking intently at him making his thoughts, words and actions our law! Romans 10:4

Kobojunkie:
The Law of Moses is the Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan. So, Jesus Christ never taught His followers to live under that Law to begin with.
Instead He gave them a New Covenant and Law - complete with about 100 commandments - which is referred to as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God..

Underlined is nothing but the truth!

The Mosaic laws only applies to the nation of Israel that's why Jesus first subjected himself to those laws since he himself is still living under the Mosaic laws until God chose another nation at Pentecost.

After God chose the spiritual nation of born again Christians it's the teachings of Christ that became their laws so our laws aren't that of any nation! John 4:23-24

That's the truth!

If we want to TEACH you people will not accept but let me assure you that Paul meant what he said by "Christ is the end of the law" Romans 10:4

If any of you wish to know the wisdom in this i will do what Jesus commanded us:

TEACHING them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:20

Religion is as old as mankind so there's nothing like whiteman's or blackman's religion where we differ from one another is politics, blackman's policies can never work with the whiteman and whiteman's policies can never work with blackman but as for religion it's the same logic globally unless we want to deceive ourselves. The one and only religion that differs from the rest is the Abrahamic faith, that's why all other religions seems silence for the Abrahamic faith!

LienwaltAbel:
Okay, that's your business.

It's a free world!

immaculatesense:
Dear MaxinDHouse
I don't like tackling u but u always make urself complicated...why? Instead of u to contribute...I will still contribute but I just want to read wat people av to say first.
To answer ur question u need to first answer mine...if u can den u will answer yours. Deal

The Question:
Where is the word "BIBLE" written in your scriptures?
Thank u

Who asked you to believe in the name given to a book of books?
Come on that's just the name given to the book it has nothing to do with what the book contains so if you don't know just let those that knows address my question.

If the word "RAPTURE" is nowhere to be found in the Bible then it's irrelevant, period!