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The first time in the history of mankind when a so called group of FALSE PROPHETS will do the best job ever!

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Courz:
Are you aware Jesus warned about Watchtower? Jesus said Let no one deceive you for False Prophets will appear and say The Lord's day has come! The time is near! Jesus is hiding here, you just can't see him (denoting invisibility) , come and see! Who has done all these things? You JWs! You all said Jesus has already come but invisibly. You all prophesied that the end has come 10 times! 10 good times! Mad MaxInDHouse. See? Jesus was referring to you JWs as the False Prophets!

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse with your Maggot infested brain, why are you avoiding the definition of False prophets by Almighty God himself in this verse below? Is it because the definition described you JWs perfectly? God even said you False Prophets are to be Killed. Imagine that! Imagine Watchtower proclaiming these False Prophecies at that time with God making sure you all must die!
Can you see Watchtower has committed a Grave offence?

Yes. The same False Prophecies were made by them which was also the same False Prophecies you JWs proclaimed. So, these Charlatans are in the same Category with you JWs as warned by Jesus. You and them are One and the same with your case a lot worse than them because it rendered JWs homeless and useless. Gbam!

OK you've entered your default mode again!

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse with your Maggot infested brain, why are you avoiding the definition of False prophets by Almighty God himself in this verse below? Is it because the definition described you JWs perfectly?

Yes. The same False Prophecies were made by them which was also the same False Prophecies you JWs proclaimed. So, these Charlatans are in the same Category with you JWs as warned by Jesus. You and them are One and the same with your case a lot worse than them because it rendered JWs homeless and useless. Gbam!

OLÓDO!

God is warning the Israelites about false prophets in their midst and that doesn't mean prophets of false gods don't make perfect predictions in other places.
God of Israel Himself will make sure that what false prophets say in His own domain will not come through but in other places their prophets do make predictions and it do come to pass.
So stop deceiving yourself this one is about what God Himself promised and He Himself assured His servants that even if it should delay they should keep in expectation of it because it will surely come! Habakkuk 2:3

Therefore those eagerly expecting it are not false prophets otherwise John the baptist could have been a false prophet for thinking Jesus will establish God's Kingdom in his time! Matthew 11:1-5

That book Bible belongs to us so we know it inside out that's why you must humbly learn how to preach and teach with it from us!

Janosky:
Courz Your delusion is incurable.
IBSA Charity owned by JWs is NOT internationalbiblestudents.com PROVEN by the screenshot of internationalbiblestudents.com.
No Masonic symbols in any kingdom Hall.
IBSA Charity is NOT Freemason..

When God warned His people not to carry false reports or follow the crowd to do evil {Exodus 23:1-2} some think it's only about those lied against, hardly did they realize that when they lie it makes them much more bitter inside against the one they're lying against when that one keeps progressing with fine WORKS.

So who is suffering, the false accusers or the accused to whom they can't do a single thing other than their agitation?

Courz:
Yes. The same False Prophecies were made by them which was also the same False Prophecies you JWs proclaimed. So, these Charlatans are in the same Category with you JWs as warned by Jesus. You and them are One and the same with your case a lot worse than them because it rendered JWs homeless and useless. Gbam!

Homeless and useless yet they're not reported to be beggars in your streets.
Lie lie no good for your health o!

What did Jesus of Nazareth taught his friends on how to distinguish between true and false prophets?
Is it by what they say?

Let's consider Jesus' own words:

Due to the fact that different persons will rise up claiming Apostles, Pastors, Bishops and so on. Jesus warned us that their teachings will lead to trouble and no good will come out of it! Matthew 16:6, 12

Jesus has earlier emphasized on how we can figure out who are true and who are false prophets during the end time:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men. Matthew 7:15-20

Verse 15: They will pretend by using common religious titles known to gullible people to deceive many. So who are those using common religious titles popular in the world?

Verse 16: By the production of their teachings honest hearted and sincere individuals will know the source of their teachings!

Verse 17-18: God's organization will not produce trouble makers or miscreants in the society neither will Satan's agents produce exemplary citizens in the society!


Verse 19: Bad groups will continue to produce rebellious citizens in the society while good group will continue to produce well meaning citizens!

Verse 20: So it's by their products that you will distinguish between true and false religions.

Right from the beginning God's people and prophets do make mistakes and after God has corrected them they will continue serving as His prophets if they make amendments they will continue in His vineyards and because His Holy Spirit is guiding them they will produce the best disciples on the average globally! Matthew 5:13-16

So i'm challenging all of you including the Deeperlifer who started the thread to present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses after all his own Church Deeperlife can't meet up with the standard.

But if you (OLAADEGBU, Emusan, Johnw47) feel your Kumuyi church meet up let's evaluate your church and JWs considering the positive results of the two religions both within their members and in the society outside their religions!

Courz:
Yes. The same False Prophecies were made by them which was also the same False Prophecies you JWs proclaimed. So, these Charlatans are in the same Category with you JWs as warned by Jesus. You and them are One and the same with your case a lot worse than them because it rendered JWs homeless and useless. Gbam!

OLÓDO!

But this one claims he believe everything that Churchgoers claims they believe and from the opinion of your friends this one is a CHRISTIAN so why grouping him along with JWs who don't share the same beliefs with your Churchgoer friends?

Look oteneaaron, we believe Archangel Michael is the angel transformed into Jesus of Nazareth and that's the same person helping us to perform excellently throughout the world.

Please now that you've found a false prophet like us why can't you also present a better performing group than us?

There own prophets are charge and pay for their services by politicians so they only make prophecies that has to do with politics in favour of one politician against another.

Below link shows one of their charge and pay PROPHETS using his prophecy to direct them on who they should vote for and who they should vote against!

https://l.kphx.net/s?d=239682679999499747&extra=Q1RSWT1ORyZMTkc9ZW4=

But as for those contemplating on God's own government (Kingdom) they will argue blindly saying they're false prophets.
I wonder why they're excluding John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth from their list after all the two also preached and taught people about God's Kingdom some 2,000 years ago saying "IT'S AT HAND" and here we are after two millennials the Kingdom never come o!

talk2hb1:
Powerless in the sense that, he could have forgiven everyone but decided to request for his sons blood by letting them kill him.

OK!
If that's what you meant by powerless then you need to see things from another perspective not just from your own thinking alone.

According to the Bible God has many spirit sons living with Him in heaven before creating humans, it's one of them that started this whole thing but then if He destroyed this child immediately others will continue to wonder if He's not a bully due to His powers and if He decides to forgive this rebellious son is not ready to relent in his effort to rule over lesser beings.
Satan has started the rebellion and he wants to rule over humans at all cost.
So to settle the matter once for all time God allowed Satan to approach the human pair and let's see if he will succeed in ruling over them. Note that God has forewarned humans not to think of ruling over one another but this time will they agree to rebel against God's order?
If Satan succeeded in winning them over how long will it take for humans to realize that they can't succeed in ruling over themselves?
God wants everyone to see that the right to rule (set standards) belongs only to Him and no one else.

That's why He permitted all what we're facing today.

The suffering has been too much you'll say right?
Well God has no business with any of us because we are children of rebels so it's until we prove to different from our parents (Adam and Eve) that God will pick interest in us.

So He allowed Adam and Eve to continue living but not up to one day which is about a thousand years in the spirit realms! 2Peter 3:8

It's about 6,000 years now and so far Satan has failed woefully in his attempt to stylishly rule over mankind in disguise and mankind themselves don't realize that it's another person that's been ruling over them they thought it's their visible human leaders. 1John 5:19

So how has God proved to be the Almighty?

Note that He doesn't want to bully anyone so He predicted that a time is coming when He will dispense a force to gather obedient people from all the earth under one umbrella, they will be using His words to rule over themselves, they will resolve all racial disparities which Satan's rule has brought, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will stop making weapons neither will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

But will this affect all humans on planet earth?

NO! It will only affect OBEDIENT humans so they will just find their ways into this group through a global campaign for God's government! Matthew 28:19-20

But as for the rest of mankind who are rebels they will be busy building destructive weapons to kill one another throughout the earth! Revelations 6:3-4

Of course this will affect even those obedient people who are no longer into politics or racism as many of them will be killed due to the troubles. So God promised a resurrection for all obedient humans right from the second son of the first human pair till date! Job 14:13-15

So what makes people like me believe in this God today?
Well it's because we are now witnessing the fulfilment of His promise as that global family of peace loving worshipers suddenly emerged in the name of "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" and everything mentioned in that Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 fittingly fall in place just as Isaiah penned it down some 3,000 years ago! Isaiah 55:8-11

Janosky:
The disciples lived, ate and drank with Jesus Christ,yet John 16:16-18 & Luke 19:11 & 24:25,is in your Bible.
"IS THAT NOT INSANE?"
Oga, just calm down.

He has received the injection of truth but it's really disturbing him because he's not of the truth. So he will continue to agitate bitterly against God's people!

Janosky:
Do you have to pretend you have not brought this matter to Nairaland & you were debunked by Luke 19:11 & Luke 24:21,25 supported by Jewish historical accounts of their prediction of the Messiah's kingdom coming?
Anywhere Belle face.
Abeg shift!

I'm not even interested in their agitation but the guy that keeps trailing me is the one i want to show that there's no accusation they have against God's people.
Errors has always been the motto of imperfect humans trying to practice pure worship but yet the true God will never ever abandon His faithful servants because of errors rather the whole world will continue to see that despite their errors God's people are standing tall above all false religions {Matthew 5:13-16} as we produce the fruitage of FAITH that no other group can produce! Isaiah 2:2-4

If he dey pain them make them present the group wey sabi do Jesus work pass JWs! James 2:18-26

immaculatesense:
They THOUGHT...we Christians are still thinking today too...he may come today or not...we are always read.
But JW set date...exact date...but they failed...
Not ONCE
Not TWICE
BUT SIX TIMES...

FAILURE AT IT PEAK...FALSE PROPHETS ORGANIZATION

SEALED

You Christians that are involved in killing your neighbours due to racism and politics shey?

You Christians that aren't organized in doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples shey?

You Christians that are contradicting yourself over doctrines to the extent of creating over 41,000 different sects shey?

You Christians that can't show love to your fellow Churchgoers like true disciples of Christ shey?

What exactly makes you people Christians?
Oh i get it you're all calling Jesus Lord! Lord!! but nothing like orderliness among you! Matthew 7:21-23

Or worshiping him when you're supposed to preach and teach what will strengthen the bond between those having the same faith shey? Matthew 15:7-8

Ọmọ go and worship your God while i worship mine!

immaculatesense:
Thank God you said they thought but not disobeyed...but u people went on to disobey by setting a date even Christ CANNOT set. That on it's own is BLASPHEMY.

I won't allow heresy in my home...I won't even offer you a cup of water to drink if u come. I will not take part in encouraging ur heretic destructive bound teaching
Read
2 John 1:10-11
[10]If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don’t invite that person into your home or give any kind of encouragement.
[11]Anyone who encourages such people becomes a partner in their evil work.

That's why i listed all their achievements for all of you to present a better performing group after all they're the one and only group producing what Jesus promised.
So if Jesus is not happy with them how come you guys can't present any other group working out something similar nah? Matthew 7:16-18

Ọmọ Jesus never condemned his first century disciples for their incessant errors rather he keeps correcting them, and they kept producing the fruitage of FAITH despite all their errors.
So if it's errors that makes you think JWs aren't the one and only organization having Jesus' backing oya nah present a better performing group!

Emusan:
Says the Hallgoer who knows nothing about spiritual matters
If the Hallgoers have not accused Jesus and His disciples, who will they accuse?
But this isn't the same message, Watchtower false prophecies all about.
1. "Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" is different from "By the end of 1925 Faithful people like Abraham, Isaac to Abel will be resurrected to earth."
2. "Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" is different from "The battle of Armageddon will happen at end of 1914"
3. "Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" is different from "Jesus will become king in 1878"
4. "Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" is different from "the world will end in 1914"
And many more!
You inserted the word "TODAY" when you know the person isn't talking about TODAY
Anyway, JWs aren't saying the same thing back then just say bright light is saying the same thing TODAY

Jehovah's Witnesses claimed that Jesus returned in the year 1914 and according to God's word Jesus' attitude will never change {Hebrews 13:8} just as he worked with his friends for three and a half years preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom and by the end of the day his disciples were contemplating the Kingdom will take charge in the first century {Act 1:6} that's exactly what is happening today.
His first century Jewish disciples saw him life, heard his voice directly and followed his during his ministry yet they thought he was referring to a certain time. It's the same way his disciples today are anticipating his glorious kingdom after seeing so many things having to do with the kingdom being fulfilled in their eyes.
So if you're now saying his disciples are false prophets for anticipating the Kingdom just as his first century Jewish disciples did then it's no longer his disciples but Jesus himself that you're accusing.

But if you want to be sincere with yourselves all what you need to ask is "what does John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth meant when they were saying the kingdom of God is at hand"

For your information, even John the baptist was confused because he taught after seeing the Christ the kingdom will start operation immediately. That's why he asked Jesus:
"Are you the Christ or are we to expect someone else?" Matthew 11:2-3

Just like other faithful servants of God throughout all generations John was expecting Jesus to begin his righteous rule in which John (a faithful servant of God) supposed not to be in the prison!

Jesus only told him that it's the revelation of some things that's on not what John the baptist was anticipating! Matthew 11:4-5

So if you're now calling those anticipating God's Kingdom "false prophets" then there's no need for segregation, include John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth too because they were talking about something that never came 2,000 years ago saying it is "AT HAND" perhaps you should research what that phrase "at hand" could mean to any listener!

immaculatesense:
He would Dodge the answer and start saying all sort of BLASPHEMY...imagine him calling Jesus false prophet that Jesus said the kingdom of God is at hand and dat did not fulfil... imagine his audacity

You no get dagger knife, gun or bomb to kill those blaspheming against your god, shey?

I've told you times without number STOP quoting me because you and i aren't serving the same god. I think you will stop quoting me from now after all i have blasphem your god.

If you're claiming JWs are false prophets for talking about God's Kingdom as if it's coming in our generation and the media mistranslated our message as if it's a prophecy then Jesus must have been a false prophet too after all that's the impression his message created in the hearts of all his listeners.
His own disciples who best understood him shows exactly what they thought about Jesus' message! Act 1:6

immaculatesense:
BLASP! BLASPHEMY!! BLASPHEMY!!!
For calling Jesus Christ a liar...u blaspheme God...Jesus said;
Matthew 24:36
[36]“However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

Jesus saying the kingdom of God is at hand means d kingdom of God is coming...he didn't set date because he said he did not know... blasphemy! blasphemy!!Jesus never said 1878,1914,1925,1968,1975... JW set those date and they failed...Jesus never set date and he is JUSTIFIED.

In Act 1:6
Acts of the Apostles 1:6-7
[6]So when the apostles were with Jesus, they kept asking him, “Lord, has the time come for you to free Israel and restore our kingdom?”
[7]He replied, “The Father alone has the authority to set those dates and times, and they are not for you to know.

The disciples only ASKED QUESTIONS...they did not predicta date. Jesus told them only the Father had the right to set date and they agreed and none of them in their letters went on to SET DATES.

But JW disobeyed God and went on in their publications WatchTower and SET DATES and THEY FAILED.

BLASPHEMY...Do wat God alone can do is BLASPHEMY.

So, JW can be tagged as BLASPHEMOUS ORGANIZATION

You're not ready to carry weapons against us just like your kind does in other religion shey?

Leave blasphemy against God for God Himself to judge!

If Jesus said "the Kingdom is at hand" some 2,000 years ago and his disciples (closest confidants) thought he's talking about their generation {Act 1:6} then he should be a false prophet going by your judgment, after all his listeners who were his closest friends thought he was talking about their time!

Ọmọ humbly request a free home Bible study and we will TEACH you what John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and Jehovah's Witnesses meant by continuing advertising God's Kingdom till today!

Courz:
I hope you guys reading this Maggot infested brain's responses. Do you see what he said above? Mad MaxInDHouse has just committed Blasphemy against Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, the Mighty God, the Righteous Judge, the One God Almighty has given all Authority in heaven and on earth! This is the same person Mad MaxInDHouse has chosen to Blaspheme by saying that If Watchtower is a False Prophet then that means Jesus is a False Prophet! Chai!!

Your Founder, Charles Taze Russell, committed the same Blasphemy, declaring himself to be an Antichrist, by saying that Jesus and his apostles made blunders in quoting the Old Testament and that Men of now such as himself have come to correct those errors of Jesus and therefore should be followed instead of Jesus. That is the same act you have just done. Oh Mad MaxInDHouse, you have no idea what you have just done! Look at what Watchtower has transformed you into! An Antichrist!

It's 2,000 years now that Jesus said:

"Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" Matthew 4:17

Instead of arguing blindly why not ask us to TEACH you why what Jesus said is at hand is not here since 2,000 years ago.
His faithful disciples thought the kingdom will come exactly in their own generation {Act 1:6} note Apostle John's enthusiastic responded to Jesus' word when he said "i am coming QUICKLY" John said "Amen! Come Lord Jesus!"

So if after 2,000 years nothing has happened regarding the kingdom Jesus preached till now then he must be a false prophet like the JWs who are also saying the same thing in our time. After all it's the same criteria if you want to be sincere with yourself!

Jokerman:
So the 24 Elders that seat at the throne worshiping God day and night are angels?

Only one person was with God in the beginning {Proverbs 8:22; John 1:1} but all others came through the handiwork of the firstborn of all creations! Colossians 1:15-16 compare to Proverbs 8:30

So those elders are angels closer to God than the rest! Luke 1:19

Jokerman:
Oga, Moses was never like God.
Stop typing heresy

You can read Exodus 7:1 in any version of your choice but let me quote from the ones i have here:

Jehovah then said to Moses: “See, I have made you like God to Pharʹaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet. NWT

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, i have made thee a god to Pharaoh and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. KJV

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Holy Bible

Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. NIV

And the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. RSV

Moses was God to Pharaoh the greatest king on this planet at the time!

Jokerman:
The Cherubs
The seraphim
The 24 Elders
Also live with God in heaven

Ọmọ all of them are angels, the Bible referred to some angels as PRINCES {Daniel 10:13} because some have power and authority over others! 1Corinthians 8:5-6

sagenaija:
Janosky, Who is THE ALMIGHTY according to Rev. 1: 8?
Notice here, it's not an Almighty but THE Almighty.
Just a simple answer, please.

Who was Jesus crying to when begging on his knees? {Mark 14:36} note that he clearly said both the father and him has different wills but he (the son) is ready to submit to his father's will!
Apostle Paul declared that Jesus begged the one who can SAVE him! Hebrews 5:7
So the Almighty is the SAVIOUR who saved Jesus!

Maynman:
And the morning stars too.

I'm the heavens only angels live with God just as Jesus told us or you don't believe Jesus' words again? Matthew 18:10

Perhaps you can tell me who else live with God in heaven apart from angels!

Jokerman:
Lol.... Oluweri witness

I know you're not relying on what you read in the Bible rather you're placing the dogmas of your sect over God's word.
So it will be very difficult for you to face the reality.
Most of you are confused because John said the word of God WAS God {John 1:1} but why did John use a past tense instead of present when talking about the word of God?
Well it's simply because like Moses who WAS God at a point in time the word WAS also God at a point in time and of course both Moses and the word confirmed that someone GREATER sent them!
So keep your TRINITY dogma aside and learn the TRUTH so as to set yourself free from unfruitful religious dogmas! John 8:32

Jokerman:
Read Paradise lost by John Milton to know that the son is different from Angel Michael

According to God's word angels are God's sons! Job 38:7

So believe the Bible not Milton!

Jokerman:
So who was being talked about John 1:1?

It's the prophet who will be like Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} Apostle Peter confirmed it @ Act 3:22 that Jesus is the prophet who walked on planet earth like God just in the same manner Moses did! Exodus 7:1

immaculatesense:
Conflicting doctorine?
False prophets?
When JW made several prophecies about about Jesus coming. is that not false prophesy whereby making your ORGANIZATION an assembly of FALSE PROPHETS...
Don't u tink so...FALSE PROPHETS MAKE FALSE PROPHECIES abi
SEALED

You're spiritually blind!

Whatever makes JWs false prophets equally makes John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth false prophets too!
WHY?
These two said some 2,000 years ago:

"Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" Matthew 3:2; 4:17

So if JWs are saying the same today what makes you think they're false prophets?
OK, the Kingdom has not come shey?

Ọmọ learn to interpret scriptures!
Both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth talked about God's Kingdom as if it's coming in the first century, in fact those that listened to the enthusiastic way both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth declared this message back then asked Jesus:
“Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” Act 1:6
WHY do they think so?
Because they had the impression that God's kingdom will come in their generation, but did Jesus condemned them for thinking so?
NO! He appreciatively assigned them to a great work which you're all seeing them doing today {Act 1:8} and with their hearts firmly fixed on the kingdom of God while you are fighting and killings one another over politics!

Jesus said it's by the fruit of each religion that you will KNOW which one belongs to God and those belonging to Satan {Matthew 7:16-18} so it's not about how many mistakes Jesus' disciples makes but what have they been able to achieve globally as they go about picking individuals from different races throughout the earth and making them disciples of Christ: The Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} they are showing love to their neighbours and fellow believers as peacelovers. But what about you and your cohorts? You can't even relate peacefully with your neighbours talkless fellow believers in other countries due to politics!

So it's by their fine WORKS Sir not concentrating on their flaws because as imperfect humans all servants of God right from Genesis till today do makes mistakes but by the end of the day God's Holy Spirit will guide them to a profitable end! James 2:18-26

immaculatesense:
Let ur will be done on earth as it is in heaven...
Again...the whole world belong to him...both heaven on Earth...so we Christians are the kingdom of God on earth and he told us to subdue(rule) it...
Our disdain and withdrawal had made the wicked ones to rule it for too long.
Av u forgotten the Bible said...when the RIGHTEOUS RULES the people PROSPER but when the WICKED rules the people GROAN...
Can u see the OUTCOME of the WICKED ruling for so long?
Now tell me how those verses turns WORLD to POLITICS again?
When the scriptures call the love of the WORLD as the LOVE OF MONEY, LUST OF THE FLESH and PRIDE OF LIFE.

Ọmọ you're exposing your ignorance the more!
Now look at the highlighted and tell me who among humans can overthrow Satan ~ the God of this system of things! 2Corinthians 4:4
In fact God's word says the whole world is in the hand of the WICKED ONE! 1John 5:19
When he confronted Jesus Satan confirmed that he is the one in control of all the governments on this planet today and Jesus never denied it! Luke 4:5-7

Did you notice what it will require before anyone can partake in politics in this system of things? Well you must WORSHIP the devil!

So if Jesus told us to keep waiting and praying for God's Kingdom (government) to come {Matthew 6:10} then who told you that you can overthrow Satan when Jesus has not come to arrest him and send him into the abyss?

I've told you that whether JWs are talking about our book just humble yourself and learn, Jesus bow out for Satan to continue ruling waiting for the time God will give him the order to end Satan's control over the earth {Psalms 110:1} then you whom Jesus ordered to allow Satan's agents rule over you and don't drag anything with them {Matthew 5:41} now think you're wiser than Jesus, shey?

Walahi talahi you be clown!

Wilgrea7:
Thanks for the clarification.

You're welcome!

Please could you expand on this? What needs or wants would kill love?
I don't think i quite agree with this point. Sure animals act based on instinct. But they still feel emotions. Surely not to the same degree as humans, but the emotions are still there. And that makes sense considering they're not at the same level of consciousness as us.
Also, I don't see how having wants and needs will make it impossible for humans to love each other. What type of wants exactly are you talking about here?

NEEDS are things that you can't do without so a lion can't continue loving a sheep because the lion must feed on meat and the only way to meet up with this NEED is by KILLING the sheep.
WANTS are things we choose to have even though we don't really need them.
Ordinarily as humans we ought not have any beggars in our society if truly we know what LOVE means but due to our unlimited WANTS we must ignore the suffering of our fellowman just to get what we WANT. Have you ever think of the reasons why politicians do make lots of promises but as soon as they're voted into office they finds it difficult to accomplish 5% of what they promised before getting there?
Well it's because out of office they feel like doing everything right but after getting into the offices they discover there are countless WANTS they just can't ignore!

Once again, I disagree. Saying you have to know the truth first before differentiating between truth and falsehood is already making a claim to truth which has not yet been proven. If we want to know what the truth is, [b]there needs to be an objective method to determine what is true

, and what is not.
If someone doesn't yet know what the truth is, how else would you convince them that what you're offering them as truth is indeed true and not a lie?[/quote]The highlighted is where atheists are deceiving themselves a lot!
Have you ever seen gravity or radio waves before? Well you believe these things are there simply because you've observed how they're working out for our benefits.
So why don't you think we can approach the truth with the same logic?
Well truth is what will benefit all humans when applied PRACTICALLY.
Now the number one unseen enemy of TRUTH is POLITICS! No matter how much you love to do what is right seeking your own glory will blur your senses to seeing what is true.
So the true God illustrated this in the first book of the Bible saying:

Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die. Genesis 2:16-17

This means [b]each human is free to do whatever his/her heart craves for but never think of setting standards for RIGHT and WRONG because that will lead to great disaster!

Now think of the only reason why people raise weapons against themselves and justify it the killing of their neighbours calling it "WAR" there's no other reason than POLITICS where two or more individuals are dragging over the issue of who should rule over a certain domain.
That's how to know what the TRUTH is!

Saying there's a supreme being presupposes the idea that you know how, and why we came to be. This is usually the part where I ask for some sort of evidence.

Recall the case of gravity and radio waves, you are fully convinced that these things exists but what evidence have you apart from the effects of these things?
Well the SUPREME BEING exists and it's only by carefully observance that you can see Him with your mind's eye! Romans 1:20

Considering we're the most advanced civilization on the planet, it makes sense that our conflicts would be able to damage a reasonable portion of the planet. Then again, it wasn't always like this. It was as our technology advanced, that we developed more powerful ways to do things.

But even on the cosmic scale, we're still no more than ants destroying an anthill after a fight. A much more advanced civilization, if they exist, could probably destroy star systems. And even that is this incomprehensibly minuscule if you consider how big our universe is.

Well billions have been sent to their early grave not due to advance civilization or technology but POLITICS. Each human like Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin and many others can discover certain things and make it available for everyone to use if we all believe in a SUPREME BEING who should set standards for right and wrong so they won't have to start thinking they're to set standards for their fellow humans simply because they discovered what others don't know!

Janosky:
My Bro loud the volume more more.

Na him join the mumu to reject Acts 3:13.

I have told him several times never to expect any stupid exchange of teachings from me, if he's not ready to enroll for free Bible study he should continue worshiping his God.
I even go as far as telling him to stop quoting me but it seems he feels there are some things he know so i'll not hesitate to go straight to the point with him.
I have told him times without number that our God differs from his God if he's not one of Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 12:46-50

immaculatesense:
Guy come here...
Is this how they interpret scriptures to u in WatchTower JW?
How does John 15:19 and John 17:14 translated to Jesus telling us not to join politics...read it again...abi na sleep eye u use type am? Let me quote it for u...quote ur own version too...now tell me how that place talks about politics.
John 15:19
[19]The world would love you as one of its own if you belonged to it, but you are no longer part of the world. I chose you to come out of the world, so it hates you.
John 17:14
[14]I have given them your word. And the world hates them because they do not belong to the world, just as I do not belong to the world.

GO ON...AM WAITING OOO

Guy i have told that when JWs are talking about our book (Bible) humble yourself and learn not argue stupidly.

The WORLD means people who are ignorant of God's plan about Christ's Kingdom they are still agitating among themselves about who is their rightful ruler/leader but God's people are only interested in the preaching and teaching campaign Christ gave us as assignment.

Now that may seem as if we neglect important things like what is affecting everyone around us when people are voting in or voting out one man and the other, but then all the people in the world are fighting and killing themselves over this issue {Revelations 6:3-4} Jesus' order to us is to love our neighbours as ourselves and love our fellow believers just as Christ loves us.
That is why all of you can't decipher why only JWs do relate peacefully with all people and most especially our fellow believers in other countries but you people can't even when you want to relate peacefully with your fellow Churchgoers in other countries.
Take for instance the ongoing case between Russia and Ukraine, the current President of Russia banned JWs in 2017 and ever since then it has become a crime to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses in that country.
Nobody knew Putin's plan when he started attacking the JWs but today the whole world can see the reason! JWs are PREACHING and TEACHING everywhere we are for peaceful coexistence as in love for neighbours but Putin wants Russians to view Ukrainians as enemies so if he should allow JWs to continue in their preaching most loyal citizens may feel weak not to join Putin in attacking Ukraine so the best thing for him to do is ban this group that's preaching what will not allow his people join him in killing their neighbours in Ukraine.

So if you people are blind towards the sacred secrets of God's Kingdom we are not!
Jesus talking about the WORLD means political elements of the world, no Russian or Ukrainian will lift up weapons against one another if all of them are Jehovah's Witnesses but because they've been carried away with worldly philosophies your so called christians in Russian and Ukraine will carry weapons and kill one another!

That's why Jesus told Pontius Pilate saying:

"My Kingdom (government) is no part of this world" John 18:36

Can you join Jesus in saying the same thing if you're into politics?

Ọmọ abeg when JWs are interpreting the word of our God just keep shut and learn for your own good, stop deceiving yourself!

immaculatesense:
GOOD FAITH only seen among the body of Christ (CHURCH)

I Hereby present to you a better performing group THE CHURCH.

1 Corinthians 1:13,29,31
[13]Has Christ been divided into factions? Was I, Paul, crucified for you? Were any of you baptized in the name of Paul? Of course not!
[29]As a result, no one can ever boast in the presence of God.
[31]Therefore, as the Scriptures say, “If you want to boast, boast only about the lord.”

1 Corinthians 3:4-7,11
[4]When one of you says, “I am a follower of Paul,” and another says, “I follow Apollos,” aren’t you acting just like people of the world?
[5]After all, who is Apollos? Who is Paul? We are only God’s servants through whom you believed the Good News. Each of us did the work the Lord gave us.
[6]I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow.
[7]It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow.
[11]For no one can lay any foundation other than the one we already have—Jesus Christ.

You're a LIAR!

Jesus confirmed that there will be false prophets and they will deceive many!
So all these different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines can't be for the same Jesus because he wanted all his friends globally to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and that they must love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and there must be love among themselves {John 13:34-35} you and i know that all these will make Jesus liar if you his disciples in different countries join the political elements of this world and start killing one another!