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Maynman:
Do you have any, sheep?

[/b]Isiah 45:7: I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. [b]

You don't have any problem jàre!

anonimi:
Were the Jews not waging wars throughout the OT and taking the lands of others in genocidal atrocities

You people just reason like babies, so you are comparing the time when the world has not agreed on terms and conditions of relations with today when there is lots of organizational arrangements to unite all nations.

Was there anything like United Nations back then?
After the Roman empire the world has been working towards becoming a global family but back then it was the survival of the fittest, that's why God first of all sent a powerful message to all the nations occupying Canaan that His people are coming to take over the land He swore to give Abraham and his descendants.
Note that the Israelites had a specific portion where God asked them to stay, and since their God could free them from the hands of the world's most wonderful nation of that time no reasonable individual should dare dragging lands with the worshipers of such a God after all it's not the whole earth He demanded for His worshipers to practice pure worship!

So learn to distinguish between irrational land grabbing and what God demanded back then.

Maynman:
Your god is not yet certain who will make heaven abi?
Your god is always adding and subtracting who will be in heaven, he’s not sure himself, That’s why you are preaching for the kingdom of god

[/b]Isiah 45:7: I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. Your god does Only good disasters abi [b]

You don't have any problem jàre!

Maynman:
You are an hypocrite. Why do you cherry pick this verse then? Can a good god do disaster no matter what?
[/b]Isiah 45:7: I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. [b]


Jesus taught perfectly but the people he taught didn’t understand.. when Jesus was referring to god the father, he was referring to his soul, the Holy Spirit to his spirit and the son to his flesh(literally).. he was God himself exactly as we are God ourselves, I hope you find moksha!

You have no problem jàre!

MindHacker9009:
Ofcourse my GOD is different from your God, because my GOD in the Old Testament does not impregnate another man's wife but your Roman idol God in the New Testament can impregnate another man's wife.

Funny atheists!
Yet you agreed that Abraham of 100 years could impregnate Sarah of 90 years shey?

cornelboy:
He fulfilled most of the prophecies and he's still coming back to fulfill the rest.
Lol where did he insult his parent?

Whoever doesn't believe in all what the Bible says will continue to cherry pick what soothes him/her and arguing blindly.
If they truly believe in their Messiah who is yet to come then they should WAIT until he comes before arguing with anyone over what he is coming to do.
That's why i keep telling sonmvayina to WAIT until his Messiah come instead of wasting my time arguing with him!

MindHacker9009:
If you have accurate knowledge of GOD you'll know that GOD will not come down to this world to impregnate another man's wife.

Well my God did which means my own God differs from yours!

ChristianFreedo:
So I am quoting you and I will correct what you wrote to reflect realities

Even Jesus' teachings is not by force it's either you accept it and join his disciples or take your leave! Luke 18:18-23

AntiChristian:
Have you seen their prostitutes before (not the picture of just some random females in Hijab hanging around one hotel)?
Yeah, that your ignorant filled Muslim period!
The mode of dressing was described in the Qur'an and Sunnah!

What the Qur'an teaches is just culture of the people in the middle east, it has nothing to do with holiness!

malvisguy212:
hello, it's been awhile.

malvisguy212:
from Genesis, when God created man and woman, automatically , marraige was design, one man and his wife. God never told Abraham, isaac , Jacob ,David etc to marry more than one wife. and God will not override your will. and all this names above, there marriage is full with up and down.

This is excellent, please next time try to add Bible verses to back it up, in that way you will make it clear to everyone that the idea is from God not you.

It's been a long time!

AntiChristian:
And is there any evidence that she didn't wear it?
The traditional Jewish dressing for adult females 2000 plus years ago is more like the Islamic attire no doubt!

That's the problem i formerly had as a Muslim, i thought their mode of dressing in the middle east is what God approves but now i know better that it's just about their culture.
People from the middle east have their mode of dressing and it has nothing to do with Godliness because even the prostitutes among them dress exactly the same way!

A stitch in time saves nine!

Where were they and what have they been doing when Jehovah's Witnesses were teaching their own members not to participate in WARS? Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

malvisguy212:
from Genesis, when God created man and woman, automatically , marraige was design, one man and his wife. God never told Abraham, isaac , Jacob ,David etc to marry more than one wife. and God will not override your will. and all this names above, there marriage is full with up and down.

Excellent post on this topic!

MindHacker9009:
See how you are jumping from piller to post. You started with beleiving in all that is in the book which I have shown you don't. Now you have moved on to having the accurate knowledge of God's word, have you seen God before and spoken to God face to face to have accurate knowledge of God's word, if you say you have then you are referring to ifa which is not the same as the GOD in the Book we are discussing here.

All other sources of information about the spiritual are from deceptive demons only the Israelites had contact with the one and only true God. So whether ifá or any other means you may think of are from lying demons.
That's why i could confidently say
"it's only through studying the Bible that we can have accurate knowledge of God"

When we concentrate on the informations we get in the Bible alone and pray for understanding we will understand why there are other sources claiming they're roads leading to the same place. They are all from fallen angels (demons) Proverbs 2:1-5

cornelboy:
He violate God's law by teaching and emphasizing on love.
He violated God's law by living a sinless and perfect life.
He violated God's law by laying down his life for us out of love

In fact Jesus violated all the laws they wish to set up in their rebellious hearts but one thing is certain: there will never be peace in their gathering as long as they're not putting Jesus' commandments into practice!
WHY?
Because Jesus is the one and only wonderful counselor the world has ever known!

That's why they get provoked each time i ask them the billion dollars question:

"PRESENT A BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

Today the world is crying due to lives being lost each day in Ukraine, but none of them is asking himself/herself the honest and sincere question "will there be WAR at all if we're all Jehovah's Witnesses?"

cornelboy:
Where and how did he violate God's law when he was the prophesied Messiah? Jesus was a perfect sinless man, the Koran itself confirmed it. Which laws did Jesus violate?

He can only violate the laws of their own gods by instructing it's worshipers to stop killing one another. As long as Jesus discourages the killing of innocent people in the name of enemies he is violating the laws of their gods!

Image123:
Statistics written in your hallways are irrelevant. Or do you have the Book of life excel sheet on your phone to come to this conclusion?

Ọ̀DẸ̀.
Here you go arguing blindly when your so called brothers are KILLING one another in Russia and Ukraine!

Image123:
You just copied and pasted from 1961 Awake without thinking. i told you yesterday to get your brain back from the hallway today and start using it. Jesus wasn't talking about politics or politicians in Matthew 5:43-44. This refers to every human being and their personal enemies. Your mother in law, your colleague that you are jealous of, your friend that backstabbed you etc.

ÒPÒNÚ!
Did Jesus substantiate on this?
My Master, Lord and King said i should LOVE everyone so i mustn't raise weapons against anyone in support of anyone called leader because Jesus my own King orders "cease fire"
So if you want to choose whom not to kill that's your cup of coffee, after all your fellow misinformed Churchgoers are killing their brothers in the same faith claiming they're fighting ENEMIES!

Image123:
Again, Jesus was answering questions posed to Him by His disciples about the end time. It was nothing to do with conflict between politicians. Get that brain bros.

OLÓDÒ!
What led to the destruction of Jerusalem?
Is it not politics between the Jewish ruler Herod Antipas and Roman empire?
So if there's disputes between politicians in my country and another country should i support any side?
According to Jesus of Nazareth, even Jerusalem the most holy city of the Jews must not be defended by Christians, rather they're to FLEE. So get it straight into your empty skull that it's defending nations or supporting their governments that's leading your fellow misinformed Churchgoers in both Russia and Ukraine into killing one another!

Image123:
This is God's commandment for everyone to love. It says nothing about a cult organization that are more of a nuisance to their neighbors.
There is no link in the verses quoted and serving as a soldier. You can't just quote verses and interprete them privately by the whims of Awake. Security is a fundamental part of the world we live in and you are a partaker in it no matter how ridiculously you twist and turn.

AFỌ́FUN GBÉMU!
Who is my neighbour?
Is it not everyone i see around me?
Well your fellow misinformed Churchgoers in Russia and Ukraine are killing their neighbours who supposed to be either souls to convert for your god or fellow believers in your god all due to conflicts between politicians dragging over territories!

sonmvayina:
Why are you misleading people and being deceptive?

Why are you talking nonsense when it's not PRACTICALLY APPLIED anywhere?

MindHacker9009:
Oga' preacher make you calm down. You are sharing your own beleives to others and you don't even beleive all that's in the book you preach from. Here is an example: You don't beleive Jesus when He said in:

Matthew 24
40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.

There's a difference between believing all that is written in the Bible and having the accurate knowledge of God's word!

Jesus is not talking about taking anyone to anywhere here, the word TAKEN has a meaning in correlation to what Jesus is saying there. So instead of forcing your interpretation on what is written just ask me how it correlates with other part of God's word.
That is totally different from the way you will say part of God's word has no meaning simply because you can't figure out it's meaning!

Image123:
That's government, not politics. Be guided.

Well politics is not in God's organization!

MindHacker9009:
Then my advice is for is you to also hold on to what you believe and keep it to yourself. But if you can share your believes and unbelieves to others then you cannot monopolise your believes on others and so I also can share my believes to others too.

There's a lot of differences here Sir
I believe in the entire book so i can explain everything that's written in the book as real life events but you selected what soothes your likeness or makes sense to you.
Secondly i preach (plead) with my listeners to believe (trust) in all that's written in that book while you are calling them names simply because they're not selective in what's found in the book.
Thirdly i present practical application and benefits they will enjoy now as they apply what they're learning while you are saying they should wait until a Messiah come yet you're here arguing instead of waiting as you said!
Please it's not the same Sir!

Image123:
What do you mean by support politics? Politics happen everywhere including right inside your hallway denomination.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Politics is about those handling the affairs and resources of your country, you people elected them into office so they have the right to do anything they want with the resources. You have no right to protest against them since it's your thumbprint that signed them in.
They need armed security operatives to protect them even when they're in your midst.

But in God's organization those leading are chosen by God's Holy Spirit so whoever opposes them is fighting directly against our God. They are ordinary men like any of us so there's no security operatives following them, they don't accumulate possessions so nobody envies them.

So while our own leaders are serving us as our ministers running up and down to see to the good of all in God's organization, your own leaders are lords over you. That's why your people are desperately killing one another for those offices.

cornelboy:
Keep following and see how foolish and unreasonable he is!
Incase you are not aware, he's an atheist and doesn't believe in the Bible God and your God Allah.
He's just here peddling foolishness

My enemy's enemy is automatically my friend!

MindHacker9009:
The book talks about unbelievers and not just those that believes the whole book. Even some of Jesus the Roman made up character's disciples too did not believe Him, so it is good for us to mention what we don't believe in the book.

Nobody is disputing the fact that there are those who disbelieve certain things but coming out to argue as if you know better than those who believe in the book is irrational.
Hold onto what you believe and leave others to what they believe since you don't believe everything that's written in the book!

MindHacker9009:
I have to quote only what is realistic from the book as some of the stories in the book are for children.

Since you don't believe in the whole book then there's no need coming to argue because we believe it completely!

MindHacker9009:
No I don't believe that because God or Adam did not write Genesis and it wasn't even Moses as he wasn't born them.

Good!
Then stop quote the book you don't accept all that's written in it!

sonmvayina:
It was an assurance for king Ahaz.
We have been through this before...I even quoted NWT

When it's the right time everyone will understand!

MindHacker9009:
And where did Isaiah say GOD ALMIGHTY will come down and BANG this young woman who already had a husband
Gods BANGING a woman is a Roman pagan belief and not a Jew religious belief.

But you believe God removed a rib from Adam's (man's) body to form Eve (woman) in the same book shey?

Felimax:
Seriously, it's not my fault you are like this. The truth is scary right?
Did you read the passage I gave you?
You are welcome jare!

You were worried over your so called Christians brothers who are killing their fellow believers while Jesus the man called Christ never approved such acts.
I quoted Jesus' words to show you those doing what Jesus taught but then you're quoting the scriptures out of context saying the real believers practicing what Jesus taught are false instead of using God's word to solve the problem you and your fellow religionists have.
Walahi talahi Satan is really crafty! 2Corinthians 4:4

LordReed:
I read the OP but I wasn't responding to the OP, I was responding to obonujoker and your comment, stating that war is not the god's will which you agreed with.

If WAR is no part of God's will for His worshipers {Matthew 7:21-23} then those involved in WARS are doing whose will? {John 8:44} and those teaching them claiming "men of God" are whose agents? 2Corinthians 11:14

MindHacker9009:
The Hebrew word for virgin is “bethulah”

Isaiah 7:14 is a verse in the seventh chapter of the Book of Isaiah in which the prophet Isaiah, addressing king Ahaz of Judah, promises that God will destroy the king's enemies before a child born to an almah (young woman) is weaned

So what's the import of a young woman bearing a child?

Guy, the text translated virgin can also means a girl that has not been having anything to do with a man (young woman)
So it's your interpretation against that of Matthew who is also a Jew that can explain what Isaiah is saying!

Felimax:
There are Christians in both countries so from a Christian stand point all I can say is that stop the war, Christians from both sides are dying and I am not happy.

On God's stand point I dare not say anything. I nor get level reach that side, who God want to support He support, who He wants to hate He hates.

The above is enough to tell you who is one Jesus' side.

If you're worried about your so called "fellow believers in Christ" killing one another but at the same time heard of a group where killing of any kind has been squashed due to Jesus' teachings.
I believe Jesus' own words should be enough to help you out:

Matthew 7:21-23

I wonder what Jesus will feel when his so called followers are killing one another, even you an imperfect man can perceive that it's a bad sign (evil fruit) Matthew 7:16-18

Felimax:
Hmmm!
The book of John chapter 6 will do justice to you.
Please do well to read it all. Please, take note of v41, this is how the JW see Jesus.
Take note of v51 this why no matter how many times you guys visit those who Christ has chosen can never be taken from him. They have what you guys don't have. It is like darkness going to preach to light.

Also take note of v55, this is the everlasting parallel line that is drawn between the kingdom of darkness and the kingdom of light and don't forget darkness can never comprehend light. It's not my fault you are like this, sorry sir.

Finally sir, I want you to take very important observation at what happen at v60, at this point the JWs totally refuse to accept Jesus's teaching and of course at v66 take note they shamefully walk away from the only source of light till date and this is the passage that gave birth to the watchtower society.

It's is not my fault you are like this sir.

I will refer you to one of your own publication titled Reasoning From The Scripture. Please, look for it very well take your time and study it. Open your mind as you do.

Don't just read only your Bible, be open minded and you will see what God wants you to see if you are not stubborn.

Shalom!

Thanks for your time!