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AntiChristian:
Where in the Bible?

God created one man for one woman!
Genesis 2:22-25

AntiChristian:
Where?

Jesus referred to the beginning as the standard for marriage between a man and a woman!
Matthew 19:4-5

AntiChristian:
Quote verses please.

So the Israelites including all those who had more than one wife were in expectation of the Messiah that's coming to teach them how to live in Paradise {Deuteronomy 18:15-19} that's why David could refer to the coming Messiah as "Lord" who will sit by the right hand side of God {Psalms 110:1} this means whatever this person says about everlasting life in Paradise is final! Psalms 110:4-6

AntiChristian:
Which Bible verse is that one sir?

God created one man for one woman.

That's what Jesus said about the beginning, it's due to mankind's fall that people began taking more than one husband or wife.

So God permitted his own people since the Messiah will come and tell them how to live in Paradise!

AntiChristian:
"If a man have two wives..." Deuteronomy 21:15a

The passage of Deuteronomy 21:15-17 is a specific instruction in the Law Itself to any man with "two wives". If polygamy was a sin, then it would not be possible for a "man to have two wives" in the Law.

"If a man has two wives, one beloved and the other unloved, and both bear him sons, but the unloved wife has the firstborn son, 16when that man assigns his inheritance to his sons he must not appoint the son of the beloved wife as the firstborn over the son of the unloved wife. Instead, he must acknowledge the firstborn, the son of his unloved wife, by giving him a double portion of all that he has. For that son is the firstfruits of his father’s strength; the right of the firstborn belongs to him" Deuteronomy 21:15-17.

Source-Biblical Polygamy
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/exegesis/if-a-man-have-two-wives/

If a woman has two husbands!

https://www.britannica.com/topic/polyandry-marriage

sonmvayina:
Not the creator of the universe,
Ok, thanks for the clarity..

All the Gods from different races do claim they are the Creator of the universe so stop deceiving yourself!

PoliteActivist:
My friends what sort of Christian is this guy? Dishonesty is not enough, look at his language!

All you need is a free home Bible study with us!

cornelboy:
Do you remember what John said in revelation about those that add to God's word?
No where in the Bible you would see "God the son" you will only see "God the Father". Why?
Because the Father us the only through God.
John 17:3
[3]And this is the way to have eternal life—to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.
1 Corinthians 8:5-6
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ,
    through whom all things were created,
    and through whom we live.

The words of God don't contradicts each other. You still have a lot to learn.

He is hinging on the indoctrination of TRINITY yet he wants to understand the Bible instead of removing trinity that's not found written anywhere in the Bible he is now contradicting Himself!

LordReed:
No.

This is your thread Mr LordReed, do you notice how i presented my own God without taunting you?
I just want to use this opportunity to show you that i don't taunt people who don't try to play Intelligence with my faith. As long as you only ask simple questions we will have no problem!

PoliteActivist:
Take Lord Jesus's divinity for example, taking the bible as a whole, there is no doubt He is God the Son of God. But you can always find isolated verses that'd seem to be against that.

Since you think God is contradicting Himself then why arguing with people who believe in what you don't?

We know our own God doesn't contradict Himself so we can TEACH you what He's saying but if you choose to worship a god of confusion our own God doesn't confuse us we understand His word perfectly!

MindHacker9009:
You kind of PISS where the gullible ones are being brainwashed and the ones doing the brainwashing are making millions financially is not the kind of PEACE GOD wants for his true worshipers .

Good!
My own God promised that He will make all His worshipers think alike so that they will not have to carry weapons against one another in settling disputes! Psalms 46:9; Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3; Zephaniah 3:9

He also foretold how He will do it by making people reason together on the purpose of His holy name {Malachi 3:16-18} then He sent Jesus who taught us to preach and teach in all our neighbourhood in order to gather the friends of PEACE {Matthew 10:11-13} so that we are able to have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} and can become his Witnesses as in Witnesses of the fact that the Prince of Peace has commissioned the PEACE arrangement! Act 1:8

And today Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth have settled all their racial disparities using God's word to make peace reign among ourselves so that while you people carry weapons against one another our own God has made peace reign in our midst!


So let's see the kind of PEACE your God is able to provide as you present the worshipers of your own God and the kind of peace you people have!

PoliteActivist:
I leave you two with this, be honest with yourselves: Other major religious leaders talked like men dealing with God.
While Lord Jesus, a carpenter with neither money nor influence, talked like he was God.

For God so love the world that He SENT his only begotten Son so that whoever believe in him might not perish but have everlasting life! John 3:16


Jesus himself is clear enough that someone SENT him!

PoliteActivist:
Don't know what you mean. I think you quoted wrong.
Besides, Hebrews is a letter written by St. Paul to th Hebrews - the same St. Paul that was all about the divinity of Christ

Paul said Christ cried unto someone who is able to SAVE him!

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear! Hebrews 5:7

This is clear enough that Jesus is not the Almighty God.
Thanks for your time!

OLAADEGBU:
What have you got to say or are you just here to observe?

Will you like to know Watchtower's interpretation of the story?
I have nothing to say other than what those sent by Jesus Christ to teach me says! Matthew 24:45

FreeIgboho:
Sorry bro, this discussion has become too childish for me. Soon we’ll be arguing wether water is wet.
See below, if you believe Sharia law is based on Politics not the Koran, so be it. Even prophet Mohammed, the six year old he married was the daughter of a very prominent member of society.
Sorry this has become too childish. Believe what you will

Guy believe whatever you will too.
I have told you that none of them believes what Muhammad or Qur'an says as long as it doesn't go well with their political ambitions.
I asked you to a question and you're quoting the time when those people see Muhammad as a demigod.
Point to any modern day Muslim whose child is given in marriage at such early stage!
Of course they will quote what you're quoting for the less privileged among them but the influential Muslims today will never accept that if you like quote Allah and not Muhammad they will not take it.
Today Muslim women are fighting really hard over polygamy most especially when they're the woman at home but is that not what their religion teaches?

PoliteActivist:
Here's what it says, stop being deceptive.

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who [j]will believe in Me through their word; 21 (AG)that they all may be one, as (AH)You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the (AI)glory which You gave Me I have given them, (AJ)that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; (AK)that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.
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He was GIVING them power to forgive sins, further proof of His Godship. No, that doesn't make them God- They'd eventually die

And who saved Jesus when he needed help?
Hebrews 5:7

GardenOfGod:
[s][/s]
Denying Rutherford and Russell and the Watchtower teachings in just a minute. How pathetic!

Topic of discussion is "WAR" and God's people (Jehovah's Witnesses) have erased politics and military services from the hearts of all their members!

FreeIgboho:
So it is politics that motivated Bin Laden and all these suicidal Mullahs and Boko, and not religion. You sure you ok sir?

When we tell you secrets but you refuse to learn what else can we do than to allow you choose what you want to believe?


I'll hint you on this!
If it's all about their religion and not politics:
Have you heard of any influential Muslim whose daughter is married by force or through pedophilia?
How many are the children of influential Muslims are into suicide bombing?


For your information their own daughters get married the proper way after their varsity education at the age of about 23-26 while the daughters of the poor and less privileged among them are married off as teenagers.

Ajmoziz:
Well maybe because the bet shops have their better black magic,do you know what it means to challenge the whole.world saying "if you get mind,come and take my money ,all you have to do is predict correct score"

It's not about "maybe" mammon is the god of goodluck so bet owners knows the spirit behind their business!

LordReed:
To point out that you are condemning other people for the very thing you do.

While speaking consolingly with the OP, shey?

PoliteActivist:
This is madness. Moses was God??!! This is blasphemy!
How many "Gods" exactly do JW have??!! What sort of monotheism do you practice??
See, this is what happens when you try to manipulate a fairly simple fact: The Spirit Jesus Christ, is part of the God head, unlike the prophets who were only God's messengers. That's why he could forgive sins and say the father was in Hiim and He in the father!

The two highlighted shows who believe in the word of God between you and i!

I quote where the Bible referred to Moses as God! Exodus 7:1

Check any Bible version of your choice and try to refute this fact.

Then the second highlighted where you typed "Godhead" can you quote any Bible verse that says Jesus is part of some Dogheads?

LordReed:
LoL did I say you condemned the OP? Can you see why you stand condemned by your own words? You started insulting me for what you probably didn't even understand. LoLz.

If i didn't condemn the OP then why quoting me?

LordReed:
To point out that you are condemning other people for the very thing you do.

Shows how low your IQ, because if it's about condemnation i won't speak consolingly to the OP who denounced her faith due to what she felt is wrong.
You and i have been through this before and from what i could discern you're the one arguing blindly after seeing the sensibility in true faith.
This OP felt there's no practical sense in the faith she professed so i can't condemn her!

sonmvayina:
Pure worship of who?

Of our own God!

LordReed:
How?

Why quoting me in the first place?

GardenOfGod:
So Russell and Rutherford did the right thing by prophesying that the world will be destroyed in 1914 and 1975?

GardenOfGod:
Are you denying your gods and founders?

None of the above has anything to do with the topic of discussion on this thread, shows how empty headed you are before coming to quote me.

GardenOfGod:
Nonsense!
Even the Lord is a Man of War!
Israelite often engaged their enemies in battle.
Exo. 15:3
Judges 3:2

But after getting the heat from me you return to your default mode:

GardenOfGod:
[s][/s]
Only Russell and Rutherford should challenge me because they both are the "mouthpiece" of God of Jehovah's Witnesses... Not you!

You should have quoted them directly since it's them you want to argue with instead of quoting me!

GardenOfGod:
Hahaha
Rutherford I know, Russell I know, who are you?
They both call you "deceiver of my brethren"

Nobody is talking about Russell or Rutherford here, it's about religionists that failed to do the right thing at the right time.
So if you don't know how to converse with others then there's no need quoting them!

LordReed:
LoLz. How am I biased?

This is about OP who denounced her faith and how i responded, your reaction is biased!

GardenOfGod:
Russell I know, Rutherford I know,
WHO ARE YOU MaxInDHouse?

Keep crying little boy!
Did i quote you before the below?

GardenOfGod:
Nonsense!
Even the Lord is a Man of War!
Israelite often engaged their enemies in battle.
Exo. 15:3
Judges 3:2

Next time don't quote me again if you don't want to be humiliated as a know nothing argumentator that you are!

LordReed:
Actually it's you who said it. LoLz.

No wahala after all the OP can see i never condemned her for taking the step she took.
So it's you who is biased now!

Following!

LordReed:
Doesn't change the fact that you violate your own rules.

Says you!

kingyakos:
.....Have you not come across the word Heavens of Heaven in the Bible, u think there's only one heaven, where did Enoch ascended to, the man Bible recorded that he never saw death. God ways and his thoughts are beyond man understanding and until he revealed it no man can know it

Everything has been revealed through Jesus Christ of Nazareth {John 1:18} so there's no need arguing over what has been written.
"No man has ever ascended to heaven" says Jesus of Nazareth {John 3:13} so neither Enoch or Elijah got to heaven!

kingyakos:
What I'm asking is that did he died, is there any Bible record of his death?.... didn't the Bible say he ascended.
Revelation will let u understand that he has to come back to earth and die

Do you truly want to know all these secrets or you just want to argue?

Because Elijah is a man like you and i, he never ascended to heaven {John 3:13} heaven wasn't meant for flesh and blood {1Corinthians 15:50} so heaven is for spirit beings, the earth is where God promised humans with flesh and blood {Psalms 115:16} so Elijah can't possibly go to where he doesn't belong.

As for the two prophets they have come and accomplished their assigned mission!