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Wilddove:
It's so unfortunate that i became a member of this forum as an atheist, But God has frustrated the efforts of the devil. I have been a guest since 2016 or therebout. i've never seen an atheist in real life before, it's either a weak christian or an agnostic, but i've read and whatched so many stories of people denouncing christianity and each time i stumbled upon such i took it as a lie and fabricated story just to mislead the elect, and even if they are for real, then the devil has caged them and blinded their eyes, not until it happened to me. brethren, depression is real atheists are real, and they very optimistic about their views. They are very inisquistive and brilliant as far as logic is concerned. But that wisdom is indeed folishness before God. All their arguments are almost the same in terms of ontological, teleological, cosmological, anthropological, biological, christological, moral and bibliogical arguments etc. they don't even care about eternity since they believe in 'No-afterlife' to be cont.

What do you know about CHRISTIANITY?

achorladey:
Is it in your Bible that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B. C. E.
The 1914 you dey carry about is based on 607 bce foundation.
I want to see what the Bible gave in what they use for the calculation.

1914 was accurate!
Just as the time Messiah would first appear was accurately 29 c.e. in the first century.
But just as many didn't get Jesus' program back then is what happened to his 21st century followers.
They thought it's time to leave the earth but they must see to the gathering of the other sheep first.
No matter how you try to complicate issues, intelligent Bible students knew the difference between misconception and miscalculation!

achorladey:
Na from the abundance of your heart panadol, crying peddling all issues forth. See one of your cry since three years ago
You cannot stop crying about this, the reason you have to keep peddling panadol over it. After all when crying of nature such too much tendency to have head and mental ache go happen
Just imagine I am are here 24/7 and my post over the years is not even up to 1/4 of yours and you keep running from apostate spotted to insane to I am through with you to comeback to excuse to talk again and the cycle keep repeating itself. You kept coming back to discuss with me. Yet you said you have silenced me.
Do you even know how many times you ran away with your MR I AM THROUGH WITH YOU only to come back.
Do you know how many times you ran away with your insanity peddling only to come back
I wonder how your mind and memory process your own words sometimes?

Only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will today!
Do you know a better performing group?

tctrills:
let's not press on that, Abraham was a patriarch. But he qualified for the kingdom of God. Remember, only those that are born again would see the kingdom

Abraham was not a Born Again so himself and others like him will make it into Christ's millennial reign on earth. But as for those going to heaven Jesus said:
John the baptist and all servants of God before him are exempted {Matthew 11:11-12} so only those born of the spirit whose selection began @ Pentecost Act 2:1-3 can be part of that group!

cornelboy:
Actually it's not revelation but what the Bible calls them.
If the bible teaches us they were prophet and calls them prophets good.
Only islam refer to them as prophet. Tell me if you your Muslim. Even Ishmael na prophet. Lot na prophet for them

Sure!
I was a Muslim too and Adam we were taught is also a PROPHET!

cornelboy:
The bible gave what they use for the calculation. But it certainly not from prophecy if you read the history well.

My brother let them cry as much as they wish!

Brother Charles Taze Russell and his team surely got that calculation accurately but it's what they expected Jesus to do that's their error not the calculation!

Before 1914, there has never been a time when the whole world was engaged in WAR.
There was no religious groups claiming they want to perform miracles like the first century Jewish disciples of Christ.
There was never a group going from house to house and door to door preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the territories.
There was never a group preaching against racism and politics with efficacy.

Well Jesus surely began his rule in the heavens that year just as Russell and his team figured it out from the scriptures but they failed to know that they still need to gather the other sheep before Jesus brings his kingdom to the earth!
That was their mistake.
Apart from that, Jesus drove out Satan from heaven and immediately Satan and his demons came to the earth, their arrogant spirit affected all politicians handling the world's affairs and that's what led to World War 1 that year!
Afterwards Satan and his demons began entering different religious leaders so that they began performing signs of all sort in years that followed 1914 that's how different sects emerged all in the name of Christ but they keep contradicting themselves because it's demons that are behind all of them!

With all these evidence can anyone deny with scriptures that the year 1914 wasn't a turnaround in the history of mankind?
Well Brother Charles Taze Russell might be an imperfect man but his team truly proved to be like watchmen always AWAKE on the WATCHTOWER!

Watchmen often stay awake watching through the night, and whenever they sight anything approaching they will alert the people regarding what they sighted. Surely Russell and his team saw something that billions living back then never saw but it's the picture they failed to get perfectly and that's why they're imperfect humans.

I will never accuse a watchman for raising alarm after seeing with my own eyes that he truly saw something approaching!

achorladey:
See panadol peddler on nairaland. seeking to sell his usual panadol of better performing group.

YES! The $1,000,000,000 question that always makes Apostates cry!

I will never forget brother Fred (an elderly JW i met on Facebook)
Before my encounter with the JWs i always hold the opinion of the intelligence:
"Of all professionals on this planet we are the smartest"
But after i met Jehovah's Witnesses my thoughts changed immediately, because this are humans who just studied a book (Bible) many of them never attended the varsity but they've proved to be the smartest of all people!
Just imagine, you are here 24/7 criticizing a religious group simply because they claim they are the only worshipers of their God just as most religionists also claim.
Then you're going through all their past events to present their errors but their achievements you deliberately concealed.
It still baffles me till now how on earth i (a former agent) failed to figure out such simple and straightforward question old brother Fred gave me as the key to silence you?

Do you know of a better performing group?

Jehovah's Witnesses, my God will continue to bless you guys for locating me!

See another disturbed unbeliever taking PANADOL on other people's headache!
Instead of dealing with the message it's the messenger they're after!

oteneaaron:
What you don't know is that Nairaland is field service for MaxInDHouse
He is obviously recording his time on Nairaland as hours to put on his monthly report card.

The 144,000

God's promise to Abraham is that through his offspring all the families of the earth will be blessed {Genesis 12:3} so from generation to generation the Israelites were expecting a King that will conquer the world and reign forever.
But each time any of God's servants does a thing that seems great (e.g. David) the Israelites will assume he could be the Messiah so the true God will inspire such a person to give hope to his people that the Messiah is still coming in the future! Psalms 110:1

The Messiah supposed to establish his kingdom in Jerusalem on the throne God Himself established {Isaiah 2:3} and since the promise has been passed onto Judah Jacob's fourth born son {Genesis 49:10} it continues from one generation of Judah to another until David's time and after David many prophets still talked about this promised King to come through that lineage! Micah 5:2

The Messiah will first train the Israelites on how his righteous government will be carried out that's why Jesus said those who will become his co-rulers will be chosen only among his taught ones they must become as perfect as the Christ, that's the meaning of BORN AGAIN! John 3:5-6
So all servants of God from the beginning till John the baptist can't be a part of that ruling team {Matthew 11:12} the Christ will teach them to perfect all the qualities of God's Holy Spirit then God (not even the Christ) is the person who will select co-rulers in that kingdom from among those taught by Christ! Matthew 20:23

Because the seat of rulers is limited Jesus often tell to his prospective co-rulers that the number will be few in that arrangement {Luke 12:32} servants of God before the Christ prophesied that it's through the selected Jews that people from other nations will be saved! Zechariah 8:23

The Jews have committed grievous crimes by slaughtering most of God's prophets in Jerusalem and they were also planning to kill even the Messiah right there in Jerusalem {John 11:53} henceforth Jesus began prophesying about God's judgment against that city and it's temple {Luke 21:20-24} that's what brought grief into the hearts of Jesus' friends who were expecting him to start his kingship (in Jerusalem) {Act 1:6} so they can become his co-rulers after all they're the ones who stood by him in all his trials {Matthew 19:27-28} Jesus said bad things about Jerusalem.

So where are they going to stay with him as his co-rulers?
Jesus now told them what no man has heard before! He is going back to heaven to prepare a place where he will stay with his chosen co-rulers {John 14:1-4} because Jerusalem has been cursed for killing God's servants {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} and the worst they did was killing God's only begotten son and saying "let his blood come upon us and our children" right there in Jerusalem! Matthew 27:25

After Jesus' death, resurrection and ascension to heaven the Jews kept fighting against God's plan so the invitation to participate in ruling with the Christ was blown open to anyone from any race who avail himself for the benefit! John 1:11-12 compare to Matthew 22:2-14

Jesus' first century Jewish disciples knew about this arrangement so they were always talking about going to heaven since majority among them back then were anointed with God's Holy Spirit {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} but the number of those going to heaven was hidden from them not until Jesus revealed the last information to John the Apostle in the year 96 c.e.

Jesus has told his disciples that there is a sacred secret that he will reveal through John that's why John will survive all the persecution unlike others that will die through persecution! John 21:18-25

That's why the Bible book of Revelation is the only book where the number 144,000 was mentioned repeatedly in connection with the Christ that this limited number will go wherever the Christ goes! Revelations 7:4; 14:1-5

cornelboy:
I still owe you some verse about God's kingdom and the 144000
But prove it at least a verse showing where they were referred to as prophet?

So stylishly the person who refused to mention the name of his Church stayed all night arguing about Christianity yet he doesn't want to talk about his own Church.

Just a simple fact:
If anyone truly appreciate God's word the first sign to prove it is attendance with God's people {Psalms 122:1} in the absence of a such arrangement then something is missing o!

Rosement:
Testimony time, a woman was barren for 10 years, not more than three months after she converted from being a member of jw to being a Christian, she got pregnant and months later she delivered her baby.

So reproduction that all creatures do still makes some people run up and down!

Well having children means nothing to me lots of God's friends never had a child but they all knew the truth that pagans don't know!

Unbelievers don't know how much i suffered before i could get a firm hold on the truth!

The Oba of Benin City never forgave those religionists that speculated negative comments about Jehovah's Witnesses when the headquarters wanted to build our branch of (bethel home) in Nigeria.
The first site our brothers got was in Otta Ogun state but the churches of Christendom fabricated lots of bad stories that scared the traditional ruler in Otta so he refused to grant our people the access to build the branch office there.
Then our brothers thought of Benin City in Edo state. But this same people went ahead of us to spread bad reports about Jehovah's Witnesses. The Oba of Benin has already agreed so he has to give them a place far away from the city. The religious leaders of Christendom were happy that at least JWs are driven away from town to Igeduma.
But after the completion of the branch office both monarchs were invited for the dedication, the two kings were saddened to see what a beautiful structure JWs built in the outskirts of Benin City.
The Oba of Benin regretted taking the bad advice of those religious leaders but the Oba of Otta was the most pained because it's not even close to his vicinity at all!

So when stories are been carried by people real intellectuals think of the motive of the peddlers of such stories we just don't swallow it hook line and sinker thinking we've gotten something worthwhile!

cornelboy:
This people HATE JWs generally. So any small thing, they will make big deal of.
What's your truth which ona represent?

My brother, i have worked with the military intelligence in the past so when i read news in the media i only note it i don't take it as truth!

They are agitating over speculated rumour carried by journalists who are looking for easy money by getting heavy traffic on their blog.

Bulgarians have accepted the truth of God's word but the Churches of Christendom are trying to stop the organization from practicing pure worship just as the first century Jews were fighting against the truth everywhere they heard that truth is making progress.
So they thought by asking the organization to sign documents stating that members will be allowed to join the army and accept blood transfusion will irritate our brothers.
The local congregation were worried when the news got to them but the headquarters knew that there's a difference between what is signed in papers and what is written in the heart! Jeremiah 31:33
What these funny unbelievers should ask themselves: Is it the documents that JWs signed that will make them accept/reject blood transfusion and military services or what has been impressed in their hearts? Luke 6:45

Nelidee:
Why are you falling your organisations hand like this. If a C.O reads this nonesense you typed up there you will be disfellowshiped asap!
If you don't restrict then why write it in books like what does the Bible really teach that it is wrong?
If you don't restrict, what's the essence of the card? Why ask all members except those in Bulgaria to have one?
Maybe you should take your own advice and see a doctor quickly.

OK i will see a doctor.
So will you relax and sleep now?

Just because of one single post from Max.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i'm sorry for you!
Why are you taking PANADOL on top of another person's headache nah?

See responses:

Response number 1

achorladey:
We know you no dey like drink Panadol for other religious denominations matter na why your post on nairaland in total over 3 years reach 22000 post and still counting. Can you tell us your average post per day?
We wan use am calculate the amount of panadol you need.

Response number 2

Emusan:
Now the emotional blackmail has started.
In the document between your organization and Bulgaria government, they were addressed as "Christian Association of Jehovah witness"
Are you people part of Christian Association or just a deceptive tactics to register your organization?

Response number 3

Nelidee:
Because you keep deceiving people that your organisation is the truth.
You keep lying to people that if they don't belong to an organisation runned by 7/8 men in Warwick they will all die.
And the worst of it all is you don't even know the hideous history of your organisation.
We are told to expose rather than participate in evil so I am obligated to expose your deceitful organisation so others don't become poor victims like you that is ready to watch his loved one die.

Anyway it's good to see unbelievers crying and agitating due to their faithlessness!

Emusan:
Olodo buruku....
If it's a personal choice, how can one still be disfellowsip because of blood transfusion?

Chai see rumour carrier!

Well it's your trouble!

Emusan:
We know it must be a rumour
I guess, you travel to USA to confirm the story of RCCG you created a thread for
I know if possible for you to delete that thread because of your hypocrisy you'll have done that since.
Devil himself will be so disappointed in you the way you're disappointing him.

The government of Bulgaria was misinformed that JWs are restricting their members not to accept blood transfusion and military services.

Delegates were sent to confirm that it's not the organization that's forcing the faith on anyone, documents were given for them to sign and they did.

So it means those words found in the Bible book of Act 15:29 will disappear shey?

Walahi talahi you guys needs to see a doctor because i just don't understand why you're all agitating over the beliefs of a group whereas they're not forcing their beliefs on you!

Nelidee:
For me? Why?
I can go to any university I like.
I can attend any church that teaches the truth.
I can donate blood and watch my loved ones live. Can you do any of that?
If the answer is no, then be sorry for yourself not me.

That's why i'm sorry for you!

Why are you taking PANADOL on top of another person's headache nah?

Emusan:
When you'll even realize that the title of this thread is "Are Jehovah witness right about their belief AGAINST blood transfusion?"

The audacity to lie openly without shame is what is so baffle me most.

Good!
So you know it's about BELIEF not FORCE!

Nelidee:
Go ahead and do research and stop shaming yourself online.
You're not ashamed that you're ready to watch your loved one die while your brothers and sisters in Bulgaria save the lives of their loved ones.
You're busy carrying 7 freemason god's on your head. 7 god's that don't want you to be educated.

I'm sorry for you!

achorladey:
One person don tell this same MaxInDHouse sey e no sabi who the apostates be.
One of them said we like going into past publications and Emusan ask them why are they still reading the Bible since they don't like going into the past.
They know that those past publications na no go area. They rather destroy than go back to read it.
They can downgrade the religious leaders of other Christian denominations but when they scrutinize their own. They cry blue murder to Jehovah for others persecuting them or start looking for better performing group.

Ẹò tíì pọ̀ tó, ẹ lọ pọ̀ si wá!

Just present a better performing group instead it's STORY STORY STORY!

Nelidee:
No need to go there and do that. They're already doing that to themselves, saving their loved ones while you Stand there and watch your loved ones die.
Really nice isn't it?

Go there and confirm not just carry rumours on your head!

tctrills:
My brother, let me be the one to avoid him here. I don't know how to handle volatile men.

tctrills:
We read of the deaths of ananias and sapphira in Acts. Does this still occur in our churches today? Do people fall down and die in today's churches? Why do you think it's no longer happening?

Have you found answer to your question?

Only Jehovah's Witnesses can explain but since you feel like playing with your own kinds no wahala!

Pẹ̀lẹ́ Emusan!

Emusan:
Pot calling kettle black!
Can you see how confused your are?
Just because your brothers and sisters in Bulgaria are allowed to do blood transfusion.
Yet you said, the organization never restricts anyone from doing it.
All these are happening simply because you've been brainwashed beyond measure to defend anymore organization rather than standing for the Word of God.

Rosement:
Why are you deceiving yourself, do you actually believe people notice any fruit in that your small group? The only thing people notice is that you guys are criticist and hypocrites. Best performing group my feet. You guys are very nosy, you are always intruding in others religion and all you want is for people from other religions to accept that you are best.

You guys are also human beings so we can't stop you from practicing your belief because you also deserve the right to practice your belief but don't misunderstand us, a lot of people don't even care about your group, some people don't even know you guys exist. It is not only best performing, you better stop deceiving yourself.

I don hear you!

Nelidee:
Max, since you're really good in changing mouth you might as well just go into politics.
You seem to have alot in common with lai Mohamed.

Go to Bulgaria and transfuse blood on JWs nah!

tctrills:
Did you read what MaxInDHouse just wrote? He said you are still progressing. You have not yet gotten to the level. I guess I am sorry for having this discussion with you now. I would wait for you to get to the level then we would have this discussion again.

Is this not what you said the last time we had a discussion?
So after discussing with other JWs have anything changed?
Don't bother yourself.
JWs will tell you the same thing, so if Cornelboy said he has not gotten to a stage it simply means from what he knows JWs are the best that's why you and your cohorts need to present a better performing group in other to stop him otherwise everything God's people believe he will make his own!

achorladey:
You mean this your group that display all the above fruitage of the Holy spirit also do the below.

You're the funniest clown here walahi talahi!

You pasted a write-up and instead of you to cover where the writer say "wrongdoers were DISFELLOWSHIPED" you just pasted it without editing.
So are Jehovah's Witnesses practicing those things yet those practicing it were punished? 1Corinthians 5:13

Wo your case done enter another level!

Nelidee:
Really? So why are certain no blood cards given to you people while your brothers and sisters in Bulgaria don't even have such cards?

Why are witnesses here shunned for taking blood meanwhile the ones in Bulgaria take blood like taking vitamins?

You are so quick to swallow rumors hook line and sinker!

The NO Blood Card speaks when we are in comma but once our brothers understood the system in that place necessary arrangements will be provided for true believers who wants to live by Bible principles.
Believe it or not no real JW will opt for blood transfusion or military services, we will rather die than go against what Jesus commanded!

tctrills:
Is he not your church brother? I thought you all believe the same sorry if I am mistaken. It was MaxInDHouse that told me that the Catholic church is of the devil. Sorry for bunching You All together.

YES! I said it but as you can see Cornelboy is still progressing in his study he will surely see reasons why i said the religion that came with killing of none believers came from Satan the Devil. Jesus never taught us to hurt anyone even if they wish to hurt us! Luke 9:51-56

Rosement:
You don't even understand that verse you quoted. Are you expecting physical fruits to start growing on the head of Christians? The fruit Jesus was referring to is those fruits will gain by reading the word of God and practicing them like Love, honesty, modesty and kindness and the fruit of Holy Spirit. Or what fruits do your jw brothers and sisters have?

The FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit is
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

Can you present any group of people in whose gathering these fruits are noticed globally? Matthew 5:14-16

Nelidee:
Be there deceiving yourself.
If you like, allow your loved one to die as a result of a silly policy from 7 men in Warwick.
Just have it at the back of your mind that while you are there forming obedience to your 7 god's in Warwick, your fellow brothers and sisters in Bulgaria are allowed to transfuse blood and save the lives of their loved ones and be happy.

You missed the import of what you are saying Sir!

No member of the organization is restricted from taking blood transfusion or joining the military services, it's each person that's standing on what he or she believes! 2Corinthians 1:24

So don't be deceived the JWs in Bulgaria will neither accept blood transfusion nor join military services.
Not because anyone is restricting them but it's due to their FAITH in God's word!