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MindHacker9000:
You are not smart at all and you want to enlighten others. If you are not teaching a FAKE gospel then tell us what has not been fulfilled that Jesus stated that will happen and immediately after He will return.

The Jew are very smart not to accept Jesus as their Messiah as He just does not match the requirements of a Messiah.

“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity. Mark 13:24-27

Nelidee:
I hope you're not one of those people that refused to go to university because 7 men in Warwick said so? University trains you on how to do research. I guess that's why they discouraged it. So that you rank and file witnesses can remain in the dark. Go and learn how to do research by yourself and stop being lazy and spoon feed. That is of importance to me.

The first time i came across this statement:

“Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” Luke 23:34

I was wondering how could Jesus have said that regarding those that want him dead?
But thanks to Jehovah's Witnesses organization today i know better!

Don't you have conscience at all?
You accused a global family of peace loving worshipers, i asked you for evidence instead of providing one you asked me to start looking for it myself, i said it's OK forget it yet you still want to argue, over what again nah! 2Timothy 3:13

Workch:
I disagree with you, you don't have any knowledge.
All your knowledge comes from the bronze age book of the Bible and that's outdated.

You still do not know enough about gases and how to differentiate them. Do you live under a rock?

Can your knowledge make people vow never to raise weapons against one another? Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

If so please i'm on my knees i will enrol in your school, but if not then your so called knowledge is as useless as my poo!

Nelidee:
I guess that's your way of saying : "sorry I am too dull to do research by myself and I rather believe 7 men in Warwick as the mouth piece of God for the whole wide world rather than use my own brain to think and search for the truth".
Well, your welcome.

Well if you must know, this is what is of great importance to me:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The so called men in Warwick has done a good job throughout the earth by removing weapons not only from the hands of wilful and licensed killers but totally erased military services from their hearts.
If you ask me i'll tell you that they're doing what Isaiah and Micah prophesied meaning this people are DOING GOD'S WILL!

Nelidee:
Of course I can do that but I refuse to spoon feed people like you.
You have a phone and internet. What is stopping you from doing research by yourself?
Stop being lazy and learn how to do research by yourself.
God bless you as you do sir.

In other words you only accuses people without evidence.
Well thanks for your time!

Kaleidoscopic:
I agree with some things you said, but disagree with a few other assertions. God knows and sees all, and that means everything. Not just some things, but E.V.E.R.Y.T.H..I.N.G, whether good or bad, right or wrong. He does not choose to see some people's thoughts and turn a blind eye on others'. And please some of your scripture quotations are misinterpreted. If we get three theologians today to interpret those scriptures, chances are that all three would have differing views, based on their various learning experiences, inspiration and even the version of the Bible they are studying!

Please get those theologians and let them interpret those verses again but their interpretation must have a practical application that the listeners may know how to apply what they're learning not just some mysterious interpretation of no benefits! Isaiah 48:17-18

Nelidee:
Admit past errors indeed.
The last time I checked, your GB in Warwick have refused to admit that they made numerous failed prophecies that the world would end and when innocent but gullible followers believed them and sold their properties, your GB in Warwick blamed them for being presumptuous when the prophecy turned out to be false.
Your GB has also refused to admit that their 2 witness rule in the elders hand book protected alot of peadophiles who sexually abused people who had trust in them as overseers and rather than take action against these sexual predators, they dragged their fellow members to court for reporting to higher authorities. Meanwhile, you guys are busy pointing fingers at the Catholic church for doing the same thing your members are guilty of doing.
I really pity you rank and file witnesses. Its a shame that people you consider worldy or apostates, as your GB likes to call them, know more about the organisation and it's history than you people.
If I tell you that your organisation has shares in a company that produces military weapons you will quickly call me an apostate and liar rather than doing research as normal person with a brain would do. Of course you people can't do that because they have successfully brainwashed and mass hypnotised you witnesses same way Jim Jones and other occult leaders brainwashed their gullible followers to do whatever they say because they are the mouth piece of God.
May God have mercy on you people and deliver you from the false light you guys think keeps getting brighter.

Please Sir can you paste just one magazine in which a specific date was mentioned regarding what you typed in the highlighted?

God bless you as you do Sir!

cornelboy:
Are you telling me God wasn't aware of these facts before giving the law?

The reason why God warned us to ABSTAIN from blood is there in all versions of the Bible but if someone doesn't read carefully, study diligently, meditate thoroughly and pray fervently over each instructional verse found in the Bible it will be difficult to decipher what God wants us to know there!

Let's read together the Bible book of Genesis 9:4

Only flesh with its life—its blood—you must not eat.

Here God is telling us why we must not take in the blood of another creature: because each creature has all it's body formation imprinted in it's blood. So when transfusing from one body to another certain organisms not related to your body comes in and it will surely affect such a person later.
Today series of ailments curable and incurable keep emerging. Do scientists know how this is happening? The answer is NO!
All they try to do is experimenting with what they can see. But when God says something He has seen the result far away before we can see it. It's until we are effected that we will understand but as a loving father He doesn't want us to learn the hard way!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK482202/

cornelboy:
What's Christianity my sister or brother?

Funny enough, to billions of people around the world CHRISTIANITY is the traditional dogmas passed on from generation to generation of religious sects contradicting themselves in the name of Jesus!

oteneaaron:
Lol.
I am sure you weren't a Jehovah's Witness when we studied this book during our book study those days - - Revelation It's Grand Climax At Hand. For a religion that claims to be Truth and God's only channel today, this a very weak response. Before 1992 - The United Nations is evil! It will be destroyed in Armageddon!! Between 1992 and 2001 - We are now registered as a partner NGO of the United Nations. October 8th 2001 - It was exposed by the Guardian Newspaper And all of a sudden two days later, well you know the rest. This isn't the case of sinning,because it was not done UNKNOWINGLY. This is a case of double standards and HYPOCRISY!! You can't call an organization evil and then register to be its member and after you were EXPOSED, you now start claiming a new light.
Truth is truth and should never change.

Do you think i just know JWs now?

Well this is my 28 years of knowing the JWs, i just got baptized 8 years ago.
WHY did i take so long to decide?
Because after knowing they're the one and only channel i was trying to find another performing group even if it's not up to what the JWs are doing but at least 10% of their performance. It's when i found none that i don't know what else to do but submit to this group.
My first book to studied with JWs is "You can live forever in Paradise on earth" back then in 1993.
One thing i love about Jehovah's Witnesses is the willingness to admit their past errors and quickly make amendments just as Jesus' first century Jewish followers were doing while God's son kept teaching them new things!

oteneaaron:
Lol.
What do you think?

Whatever (drinkable) my host offers me! Luke 7:31-35

LordReed:
I chat with both the wise and the ignorant so that knowledge keeps on flowing.

KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information. All living things have some level it it.

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which results in lasting benefits. Only Jehovah's Witnesses have this!

oteneaaron:
So before 1992, they already knew and printed in their publications that the UN was part Satan's system of things but still went ahead to register as a partner.
What do you call that?
HYPOCRISY!!!!

You keep stumbling on the same stone!

Well for the benefit of other followers i'll shed light on the topic.

A sinner is someone who is prone to errors unknowingly but once a sinner discovers his or her mistake and makes a U-turn our God wipes off the error as if it never happened!
Numbers 14:18

But when a sinner fails to accept his mistakes then he/she wants to prove equal with God, now that's what is unforgivable. Matthew 12:31-32

This people admitted their error that's why they made a U-turn so it doesn't matter how long it took them to find out, what really matters is their willingness to make amendments!

oteneaaron:
Ah!

Senior man, why are you LYING?

For many decades before 1992 when the Watchtower registered as a partner of the United Nations, they have always said that the UN was part of Satan's Organization.

But don't take my word for it.

Let us go down memory lane and explore some of your own publications shall we?

1. The Organization has always vilified the United Nations - -

See the Watchtower of 1984 Sep 15 p.15 -

"No, the UN is not a blessing, even though the religious clergy of Christendom and the rabbis of Jewry pray heaven’s blessing upon that organization. It is really “the image of the wild beast,” the visible political, commercial organization of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. So the UN will soon be destroyed along with that beastly organization."

2. The Watchtower has always condemned Christendom for been involved with the United Nations - -

See the Watchtower of 1963 Nov 15 p.697:

"Such dwellers on earth wondered admiringly at the revived scarlet wild beast. Much reliance was placed in its ability to be a power for world peace and security. Great expectations were held out for it, and it was given designations that were really blasphemous from the standpoint of the Holy Bible.

How so? In that to this wild beast powers were ascribed and tasks were assigned that really belong to Gods kingdom and its Messiah or its Christ. Back in 1919 the scarlet League of Nations had been seriously called the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth. And now the United Nations, the successor of that League, has been called the best means for peace, yes, even more than that, the last hope for peace.

So today we can see in actuality what the apostle John saw in symbol, that that scarlet-colored wild beast is full of blasphemous names. Those expressions of admiration for it turn false religionists, not to the worship of Jehovah God the Creator, but to idolatry of a man-made creation, the worship of a political image, the worship of an international organization for world peace and security. Rev. 17:3."

3. See the Watchtower 1987 Sep 1 p.20

"The United Nations is actually a worldly confederacy against Jehovah God and his dedicated Witnesses on earth."

If this is not a clear case of DOUBLE STANDARDS and HYPOCRISY, I honest wonder what else is.

Jesus must have been playing hide and seek with the JW organization.

Before 1992, the light was clear.

It then went dark for TEN solid years.

Then it became bright again after their HYPOCRISY was exposed.

WOW!!

The point is they were partners with the UN before but now they're no more partners due to the light getting brighter.
So don't kill yourself my young man!

When they've all failed to prove wrong what is right!

cornelboy:
That makes God a senseless person for giving out the law if it's impossible to eat meat without blood.
Your personal is respected but doesn't change God's law and view bout blood

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You remind me of what my first Bible study conductor said the first time he saw me debating with my neighbours about the truth.
He said:

"i can't explain how this is happening but i can tell you that God's active force is now working with you because the way you're quoting God's word and replying this people with efficacy keep amazing me. How can i prove to anyone that you barely started studying the Bible few months ago?"

"When they bring you in before public assemblies, government officials, and authorities, do not become anxious about how or what you will speak in defense or what you will say, for the holy spirit will teach you in that very hour the things you should say" Luke 12:11-12

Workch:
all gases can be visible to the naked eyes if you manipulate the environment hosting them.

Leave argument and get education first. You are in serious need of proper education.

You will see all gases of you manipulate all thr environments conditons like temperature and pressure. Please stop stressing everyone without your colossal ignorance of how stuffs work

I think you chose to STRESS yourself because this is a forum open to everyone and no one is forcing you to chat with me!

LordReed:
MaxInDHouse brand of religious fervor is based on keeping people ignorant and perpetuating ignorance. I don't think that applies to all religion though, many religious people are not so invested in maintaining ignorance.

So why do you choose to chat with the IGNORANT and not the WISE like yourself?

Workch:
Are you not ashamed that at this level of advancements, you still do not know how to accurately differentiate gases with hundreds of technics available?

Don't you think you have to go back to school, maybe you will stop asking stupid questions that has been answered by 20th centuries scientists?
The world has advanced far above this your stupid question, at least a simple Google search would have helped.

So please show us the evidence for your God and drop the gases nonsense

No need for loooooong story my friend, just show me the differences in gases, that's all!

LordReed:
Which ideas are not human? There is nothing in the Bible that indicates otherworldly knowledge. It is comprised of human ideas and gaps in human knowledge.

You and i have traveled through the before but it seems you often forget so fast.

The Bible book of Job was written some 4,000 years ago when those claiming knowledgeable thought the earth is resting on something but the Author of the Bible (GOD) told Moses (writer) to pen this down:

"He stretches out the northern sky over empty space, Suspending the earth upon nothing" Job 26:7

The Bible book of Isaiah was written some 600 years later when those claiming knowledgeable thought the earth is flat but the Author (GOD) told Isaiah (writer) to pen this down:

"There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He is stretching out the heavens like a fine gauze, And he spreads them out like a tent to dwell in" Isaiah 40:22

Do you think those writers who never had all the gadgets available today thought of these themselves? Isaiah 55:8-9

Workch:
It doesn't mean your God exist.
Is your God a gas?

It's the effects of His presence that you can see in the gathering of humans that He said they are created in His image just as you can only see the reaction of different gases on matters.
So if you believe that there are different gases but you can't show me then why expecting me to show you what you can't see with your physical eyes?

cornelboy:
If you can't accept that masturbate is a sexual sin and cybercrimes are sins against God, i believe i have wasted my time responding to your comments.

He is battle prepared to stay awake throughout the night as long as you're dropping the water from the tip of your finger.
Father Abraham (Jehovah God) told the rich man that Lazarus can't cool his thirst because of the chasm between them {Luke 16:24-26} so don't think his restlessness is curable.
Just continue thanking Jehovah that the seed of truth has grown beyond what Satan's agents can extinguish in you! Matthew 13:4

Workch:
OK, so where's the prove that your God exist.
Show me.

Oxygen and gases logic sounds like something that doesn't equate to the existence of imaginary Jehovah. You should present that silica logic to primary school student to prove that your everhiding sky friend is Real

Are you ready to show me the differences in gases without a loooooong story?

LordReed:
If nitrogen and hydrogen were poisonous you'd be dead. You won't even have been born because no human would be alive. The air you breathe is largely nitrogen, 78% to be exact. Only 20% of the air you breathe is oxygen.

You're welcome professor, i'm sure you will agree that there are poisonous gases yet they are INVISIBLE!

Workch:
I'm still waiting to hear how that proves your God exist which is thr topic here.

If you like keep talking about all thr gases in the periodic table, you still have to prove how your started deluding yourself with a god idea

Don't change the topic Sir!

If you want you can create your own thread and give it any title you pleases!

LordReed:
A book written by humans with human knowledge and ignorance is authored by a non-human? LoLz. SMH.

Just as a CEO directs his secretary to type a mail and send to a specific address.
Of course it's the secretary that typed the message but the ideas aren't that of the secretary!

Workch:
how does that make your god exist?
Is that the topic here.

How do people choose what they want to store in their brains?

You CHOSE ATHEISM because you want to free your brains from seemingly strenuous dos and donts.

Some CHOSE RELIGION because they feel life couldn't have come about by chance.

But the irony of the matter here is instead of your brains to be totally free you've become enslaved as you're always here 24/7 thinking about the same God about whom you wanted to free your mind.
Is that not funny?

EmmyG98:
Best nonsense I read this morning

It's on Nairaland that i realized that there are numerous psychopaths well dressed in our society, but you can't decipher their mental state until you chat with them!

Comedian2019:
Humanitarian services is a good move every religious body should participate in.
What's the big deal in that?

Well that's exactly what the JWs thought before Jesus asked them to quit because it's wrong from the viewpoint of God! Isaiah 55:8-9

Can you now SHOW me the difference in gases without telling a loooooong story?

Workch:
its not evidence for your god.
This is just useless whataboutism fallacy.

You prove every time to one need to be scientifically Illiterate to be so religious. You just keeo creating jargons from your pseudscientific mind and never providing evidence for your useless god

oteneaaron:
Hahahahaha
Talk about exposing the hypocrisy of the Governing Body and the Organization.
Have you seen this thread? - - https://www.nairaland.com/6944208/jehovahs-witnesses-linked-united-nations
Your beloved organization was exposed to have been registered as a partner NGO of the United Nations for TEN solid years.
The same United Nations that is called the "Scarlet Colored Wild Beast" from the book of Revelation - as interpreted in the Revelation Climax book.
Pray tell, how do you debunk such a heavy accusation?

Good to know that i'm not preaching to you rather i'm debunking the false accusations against God's people!

And as for partnership with the UN have you forgotten so soon what i told you before?
Well Jesus keeps correcting them on their past errors so the light keeps getting brighter! Proverbs 4:18

adoyi8:
Jesus predicted that some of his disciples will be alive during rapture but it didn't happen. Charles Taft Russel the founder of Jehovah witness wrongly predicted rapture twice.
According to the Quran, a time will come when everyone on earth will be muslim. Today, Islam is officially the fastest growing religion on earth. Maybe the quran is the true word of god.

Well you missed what Jesus said there, there's nothing like RAPTURE in the Bible.
Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization and as for the Muslims i was once a member, intimidation totally differs from wilful acceptance. The Roman Catholics did worse thinking they were converting people to God but today many have protested against the Roman Catholic Church.
So Islam is not growing in the sense Muhammad predicted rather intimidation is what's making many submit to the political agenda of the Arabs!