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achorladey:
Miscreant, insane, mad, asiere, asinwin and apostate non denominated Church .

Thanks for the highlighted!
So since the over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations in Christianity are having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, should we conclude that you've not found any doctrine that's of Christ in all these religions or you just don't like submitting yourself to rules binding on fellow believers?

The phrase "i am sorry" is the greatest weapon Jesus gave his disciples to help them quench issues that could escalate to disputes and continue loving one another from the heart! John 13:34-35; 15:14

So you're right my friend for echoing the word of God's only begotten Son, with this single act you've proved that you're prepared to obey God's only begotten Son and you'll surely be blessed for this. Philippians 2:11

The little addition here is how such phrase sounds in the hearing of UNBELIEVERS (those who don't know Christ), such persons always feel like taking vengeance whether what you did was intentional or a mistake. Matthew 5:39

So in addition to the phrase Jesus gave us try to show some remorse and think of something you can do further to appease the one you offended. Matthew 5:25

Please remember that the phrase "i'm sorry" only sounds good in the hearing of Jesus' disciples {John 10:27} because that's what he taught them to do to one another even if it's repeated up to 7×7 times in just a single day. Matthew 18:21-22
Faith in God is not a possession of all kinds of people {2Thessalonians 3:2} so it's only God's children that cherishes what God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ commanded not everyone you see. John 1:11-12

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

achorladey:
The same person that will go about calling me apostate, miscreant and all sort of names and label wants to know the name of my religion and states you are blessed

Kindly tell us ko kindly type it ni? When you keep calling me names you are doing so in a kind way

What is the name of your Church?

There is just one reason: ARROGANCE!

First of all we need to know that God's word is not for everyone to read and understand because God sent His Holy Spirit to enable some people become TEACHERS of God's word {Ephesians 4:11} then we mustn't expect everyone to pick up the Bible read and understand without learning from those given the spirit to teach! Hebrews 13:7, 17

No amount of prayer can change God's plan as He knows the quality He sees in individuals before giving them the gift of TEACHING. So it's not all of us that can pick up the Bible read and digest, even servants of God in ancient times were told not to disturb their brains over what is written in the Bible because God has a plan on how to help in understanding His word! Daniel 12:8-13

achorladey:
Make I help this your regimented thinking position once more.......
What is the new form of worship?
John 4:23,Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.+ God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth...... NWT
Earlier he told the .
John 4: Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
Since Jesus knew already that their house will be abandoned to those who pride themselves in their whitewashed house on the outside but inside is filled with dead bones and stench
Since Jesus said salvation begins with the Jews here is one of those Jews who lived after him said about religion and worship accepted by the father in James 1: 27
The form of worship* that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans+ and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world.
Did you see James mention the names of Jews or name of a locality or name of a religious organisation?
The above is why the religious organization you belong can go as far as publishing books stating pure worship restored at last using Ezekiel's prophecy to explain to suit their religious organization thinking God is restructuring the religious organization to carry out pure worship yet you have just stated Jesus didn't bother to restructure Judaism those whose God's temple was within their midst but the same Jesus is restructuring a man made religious organization abi na fabrication.

Since you're always here arguing about the doctrine of a particular religion and we all know that there is over 41,000 different sects all claiming denominations in Christianity with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
Can you kindly tell us the name of your own Church?
You're blessed as you do Sir!

cornelboy:
Ona no get good sense of humour jare.
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

Be careful of this person!

tctrills:
I must commend you though, you are one of the few good men here. You have not been disrespectful even when we disagree. I hope it continues like that because I am sure we would disagree much more in the future.

He is full of deceit just like other faithless miscreants around you, he will subtly come to you like a sheep but when you carefully watch his actions you will find out that he has no faith at all. He's just out there to attack anyone having real faith.
Don't forget the question you asked him last:

cornelboy:
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

Because he wants to dodge that question that's why he is now pretending to be nice.
Is he not the same person who typed the comment below?

tctrills:
Sorry seems I did not read it right. The cornelboy got himself trapped in some funny doctrine

So let him tell you the name of his Church after all you have declared your intention that you've chosen the JW doctrine as a open-minded person so let anyone coming to question you on this also declare the doctrine that's complete. Nobody sits on the fence and keeps blaming others for their choice!

Wilddove:
It's obvious that some idiosyncratic belief in pseudo almighty dwelling above the sky, has eaten deep into our memory that we decided to live in delusion Instead of reality. We claim to be sure and realistic of what we believe. whereas, reality is very away from us. catholic says that non-catholics will go to hell, protestants and pentcostals says that catholics are worshiping idol. Jehovah witness says they are the true sons of the ancient pedigree. generally all christians says that other religions are false. muslims claims they are the true worshipers of the so-called invisible creator(Allah). Dudes, dont you think that we humans brought all these methapsychononetical idiologies to enslave the irrational homo sapiens ?

Wilddove:
just show us that the most high is real and not an imaginary being cikina magana yakare yenzu

People choose what they want to keep in their brains so if you choose not to think about anything except what is visible to your physical eyes it's nobody's business, each person will live his life whether he believes in God or not.
The only difference here is that believers in God will not feel pressured into doing what will lead them to hurt themselves or others.
They are calm and relaxed after all we only have a lifespan that we can't add a second to it when it's time to expire.
Where persons like you get confused is when you see an atheist like you who only wanted to belong in the society claiming believer simply because he doesn't want to be left out. You guys read their actions and conclude that there's no difference between a believer and an atheist. Of course you're living in deceit because we all know that actions speaks louder than words, if someone told you his father owns the biggest firm and lives in a mansion like paradise you need not doubt him but if the same person behaves like paupers whenever food is around, nobody needs to tell you that he's deceiving himself, those that are raised with silver spoons don't rush food like the poor!

So there are many atheists out there claiming believers because faith in God can't be separated from our attitude. One who truly believe in God will behave in a way the shows he surely have trust in a rewarder that others can't see! Hebrews 11:6

cornelboy:
I created one na 2020. You suppose know the thread sef. Maximus said you were Apostate.

Apostates are religionists who can't present any better from of worship yet they will continue to criticize the one they know.
Jesus criticized the religious leaders of his day but he presented Jews who are about to replace the old Jewish system of worship {Matthew 12:45-50} and told everyone that after his death and resurrection the temple will become useless {John 2:19} while his newly formed group will become the spiritual temple!
So unlike Apostates Jesus will never lead an interested listener astray rather he will present a better performing group that any interested person should join! Luke 18:22

Despite the fact that Jesus of Nazareth knew a lot has gone wrong with Judaism he still told the Samaritan woman that until the new form of worship is firmly established the true God is on the side of the Jews:

The woman said to him: “Sir, I see that you are a prophet. Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. John 4:19-22

So whoever failed to present the only form of worship approved by God is deceiving himself.
Jesus knew that there's a lot wrong in Judaism yet he still confirmed that until pure worship is restructured the Jews remains the custodians of pure worship!

sonmvayina:
It will all soon come to an end. The people who created the character will reveal the truth to you.. maybe then your eyes will be open. Till then just enjoy the ride...or scam.

Do you think i care about whatever anyone say about Jesus again?

The Bible has now become like the theory to me while what people say sounds like objectives. But the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of Jesus can be clearly seen in the gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Whoever wants to prove Jesus is fake only need to explain to me how a global family of peace loving worshipers like JWs emerged and perfected everything Jesus predicted!

cornelboy:
Cornelboy go soon popular like burnaboy
I'm not trapped

I wish you could have the time to go through what they did to Rozz the girl that said she's beginning to agree with Jehovah's Witnesses on their teachings against trinity, then you will know what crime you've committed for taking side with the JWs!

They will all come with different tactics against you all in a bid to condemn the doctrine you're trying to uphold but when you try to figure out what each of them believes as doctrine that the time they will tell you "here i'm just catching fun on Nairaland"
Yet they will spend the next two weeks arguing to turn your mind against God's people!

LordReed:
LMFAO! What is this jagbajantis you just wrote? I can't even make head or tail of it.

No wahala, i understand myself Sir!

I believe we've cleared the allegation that the GB once had dealings with UN but since they're no longer dealing with the UN the case is closed!

Thank you guys for your time!

LordReed:
Yet here you are stuffing in your JW stuff uninvited or unrequested. Are you not here disturbing people who don't care for your JW stuff? LoL.

The Jains are quiet and are not looking to have their god to give them the world they pretend not to like.

You love deceiving yourself a lot!

Here we are all freely chatting with people facelessly and you are saying you know a religion that has been for centuries and they've not come to their end, and they're not speaking to anyone shey?

I thought Atheism doesn't allow people cover up what is not logical?

Nelidee:
Use your data and get the proof yourself. I did research myself. Your GB made it difficult for me by getting rid of alot of publications and I had to sweat and do research. Nobody spoon feed me. Its there all over the internet. I don't need to open your mouth and spoon feed you, that's something only your GB in Warwick can do. Do research! They come back let's talk.
You're welcome.

According to Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3, John 13:34-35 and 17:20-23
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only mouthpiece of the God i want to worship!
So there's nothing anyone can say against them. Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

The SPIRIT WORKING with them has helped them to make the best Bible students globally and the evidence is here as i (a former Muslim) keeps quoting God's word pointing out what His will says but you're just quoting what people say about the best religious group ever on this planet! Matthew 10:22-25

The SPIRIT has helped them to erase racism and politics from the hearts of millions across the globe so that they vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

The SPIRIT has helped them to have the most obedient members throughout the earth so that when people think of those who will never protest against constituted authorities JWs are second to none! Romans 13:1-4

When talking about the best youths people will like to have as children, JWs comes first of all the religions on this planet. That's why you're longingly anticipating their turnaround against those who taught them to be that good: the Governing Body.

So how come you are thinking the Governing Body aren't working for God yet they're able to gather the nicest kinds of people throughout the earth? Matthew 7:17-18

MindHacker9000:
I do and the Romans who were occupying Israel at that time have historical records of Him as a magician and His followers as superstitious followers.
Ask yourself if truly Jesus performs all those miracles you believe he did, do you think the Romans would not have taken Him to Rome and for their military missions so that He can feed all their soldiers with one loaf of bread and two fishes

Do you think political world powers value such a person?
Well you have the example of Moses in the Bible, despite the fact that he grew up with Ramses in the same palace that never moved Ramses to welcome him with all his powers.
So what makes you think that Rome the world power of that time will value Jesus when they also have their own magic practicing priests?

Nelidee:
You are right. I can never agree with you because I have done my research on Jehovah's witnesses and seen for myself that it was founded by a man who was not only deeply involved in spiritism or pyramidology but was also a mason. They predicted the end of the world using numerous dates and it all failed. That's one sign of a false prophet for you. One of your leaders even built a house for Abraham, claiming Abraham was going to be resurrected on a particular year, How ridiculous!

You don't need to quote scriptures up and down for me. If I find a Bible group that believes and teaches the truth from the Bible, I remain there. When they teach doctrines from demons, I leave and my family leaves with me.

Can you do that? No.
Why? Because your GB has brainwashed all members to shun those who are not part of them, shun those who question their teachings, shun those who choose to attend university. If you leave JW today, all your family members will shun you. That's cult behaviour 101 for you.

You are locked and trapped in a religious cult posing to be a Bible believing group and you are too stubborn and lazy to know this because you choose to be forcefully fed and caged.

Truth doesn't cage you. It sets you free.

The highlighted is the difference between you and me!

Do you have evidence or you just forwarded what you heard from others as usual?

Anyway thanks for your time!

LordReed:
I don't know. Maybe because they aren't noisemakers like you.

Do you really know Jehovah's Witnesses?

Because we are the most silent preaching team on this planet, we have only speak to people who permitted us unlike all other religions that will forcefully speak with their megaphones disturbing their neighbourhood! Matthew 12:19

LordReed:
I don't know how many countries but they certainly have had more converts or adherents than JWs since their religion is hundreds of years older than yours.

How many people in your village have heard of them?

Nelidee:
I don't need a group Mr Man. I have the Bible and I ask God to give me his spirit to understand his word the Bible.

Like the bereans, I do research whenever I attend a church and when I notice that the teaching is false or the church has a false demonic history I leave because the Bible has already warned me of wolves in sheep's clothing, false prophets with seducing spirits.

I don't sit down and remain in a church or group or organisation and allow them to forcefully spoon feed me or lie to me that it is only through them that men can be saved , because I have a brain and God given discernment.

Lastly and most Importantly, I also don't brag about any church. I brag about God, his son and his word the Bible because that is all a man needs.

Untill you learn how to worship God only rather than 7 group of men hypnotising you and forcing you not to go to university, I greet you too my friend.

Well it's obvious that you're a complete opposite of me!

Because i believe God can't be worshiped in isolation most especially after Jesus has sent the Holy Spirit to unite God's people in an orderly and well organized manner! John 17:20-23

Jesus introduced those having the same line of thought with him as his FIRST family {Matthew 12:45-50} Jesus never expected perfection from them because he knew they are humans in the flesh! Matthew 26:41 compare to Psalms 103:13-14

Jesus chose twelves imperfect men from among his disciples and named them "Apostles" {Luke 6:13} they are to oversee all the activities of his disciples globally! Act 2:42

All members of Jesus' sheep must be submissive to these ones as they're taking the lead in doing the will of his father! Hebrews 13:7,17

Whoever turn against this arrangement there is no excuse for such a person, Jesus said such persons are on their own! Luke 11:23

For orderliness to reign among Jesus' followers there must be those taking the lead otherwise the whole arrangement will end up in LAWLESSNESS! Matthew 7:21-23

So i thank you my friend, it seems we can never agree because i believe it's impossible to worship God without an organized group and they can't be PERFECT but you feel if there's no perfection then you'll rather worship alone!

MindHacker9000:
How?

Before we proceed do you believe Jesus truly exist and lived during the first century?

Workch:
How can a sane person be asking how to differentiate gases in thr 21th century?
Something a simple Google search will answer. Religion has eaten the part your brain that should retain any knowledge, you are left with nothing there but nonsence. That's why you ask questions that even an agbero under oshodi bridge will call silly.

Can your knowledge erase the use of weapons from the brains of those that accepted it?

MindHacker9000:
All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD

That's a misconception my friend!

MindHacker9000:

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:22,30 & 34

YES! The generation that witnessed all these composite signs!

Nelidee:
Not a single sheep will be left abandoned.

Even though youve decided to worship and obey 7 men rather than God, Your misplaced righteous indignation and devotion is something God understands and he will never allow you remain in a wolf pretending to be sheep organisation.

Your masonic leaders can continue to try as much as possible to prevent you rank and file witnesses from knowing the disgusting and hideous truth about the organisation but one day, whether you like it or not, that truth will present itself before your very eyes because truth cannot be hidden.

God bless you and may you find not only peace but truth.

Until you find a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses i greet you my friend!

LordReed:
Wrong! You aren't the only ones. Jains also have a vow of non-violence. And their religion is older than yours so they've had more practice at it than JW.

How many countries have they been to convert prospective killers?

Nelidee:
Lazy man. I should show you proof, when it's all out there in the internet. You know how to go to JW.org to copy and paste but you don't know how to search if something is true or not for yourself. Typical shameless JW behaviour.
Anyway you did say you just got baptized 8 years ago so I understand why you're being lazy.
Don't worry, take as much time as you want in your masonic organisation. One way or the other you will eventually grow some balls to search for truth yourself.

Ògbéni i was as foolish as carried away by what people say and published in Newspapers but after some time with the intelligence i learned that it's wrong to follow the crowd in accusing innocent people {Exodus 23:2} rather as an agent of the intelligence i must get all my facts right! 1Thessalonians 5:21

I know you can never ever find a single quote in any of the publications of Jehovah's Witnesses where a specific date was mentioned regarding the end of the world!

If you're still confused about the announcement of the end of this world then check what God's people has always been proclaiming for centuries upon centuries:

“Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 3:2
By John the baptist in the year 29 c.e.

“Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 4:17
By Jesus of Nazareth in the year 29 c.e.

So if you now find a group making the same announcement in the year 1900 c.e.

Do you think you're making any sense if you don't accuse John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth both of whom said "it is near" some 2,000 years ago?

My friend, God's Kingdom is fast approaching and His people keep anticipating this from time immemorial so instead of accusing those echoing what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth said why not find out what makes JWs strongly believe in this coming Kingdom? 2Peter 3:3-4

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

God told His people to eat and DRINK ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES:

Deuteronomy 14:26...........

Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. ~NIV

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, ~ Holy Bible


and spend the money for whatever you desire, oxen, or sheep, or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves; and you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household.
~ RSV


You may then spend the money on whatever you desire—cattle, sheep, goats, wine and other alcoholic beverages, and anything you please; and you will eat there before Jehovah your God and rejoice, you and your household.
~ NWT

Nelidee:
Mr man, stop using the appeal to emotion tactic/technique and go and do research. That is the technique your GB like to use on you people to keep you in the dark. Playing mushy gushy songs and using emotional quotes and fake staged experiences same way Jim Jones did to his followers. Am sure you know how it ended for them. Like you they thought their leader was God's mouth piece.
If your GB truly believe what they teach is truth and they have nothing to hide why are they preventing you rank and file witnesses from doing extensive research seperate from their own materials?
Why are they ordering you people not to go to university or else you will face punishment from them?
Why did they pass a letter to all elders telling them to discard and destroy certain publications which they themselves called truth from God when the publications were initially published?
Don't sit there and expect me to tell you why and give you proof. Stop asking people to spoon feed you or show you proof of this and that. Learn to do your own research like the bereans.

Please enough of the stories, do you have a single magazine published by the Watchtower in which a specific date is written regarding the end of the world?
If you do please paste it and stop being shameless after lying against God's people!

cornelboy:
You talk as if you don't believe in God.

To BELIEVE connotes TRUST and when we talk about GOD we mean the Supreme Being, the only way to prove we believe in a supreme being is when we all agree on terms and conditions. But unbelievers deceiving themselves will continue telling you they believe yet they can't present any organized group with whom they share the same line of thought.
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God after saying he believes in God he presented an organized people with whom he shared the same line of thought {Matthew 12:46-50} and he prayed to his father to help his followers continue the legacy! John 17:20-23

The problem is not about blood transfusion but a plot against the one and only organized people having the same line of thought globally!

LordReed:
Ah yes you are so peaceful none of your members has had problems with the organisation and left or the organisation has never been sued to court because of how peaceful it is. LoLz

Do you see what i meant by WISDOM?

Well let me enlighten you.
Humans will always have one reason or another to quarrel due to imperfection and when such happens it's the duty of those who are serving in the office of oversight that will call them to order.
But when two persons had issues and a group of people start supporting one while another group started supporting the other until they begin to pick up weapons against one another that simply means there's no one to call them to order. That's what often leads to WARS.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses have stopped this in our midst completely!

LordReed:
Ah yes I forgot it was JW that made the Internet and the device you are using to access it. LoLz.

The KNOWLEDGE to make things better or make better things keep increasing but when it comes to WISDOM it's about knowing how to apply what we know for lasting benefits.
The credit of electronics and technology belongs to humanity in general it has nothing to do with whether you believe in God or not.
But to make humans cohabit peacefully nah only Jehovah's Witnesses Sabi that one!