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AntiChristian:
See another lie from a Christian bigot! Why lie just to be relevant?

In most cases what he said do happen so nobody can deny that!

MindHacker9000:
Jesus said: Matthew 24:29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth c will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it e is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The distress of those days and the destruction of the Temple were the end time events and Jesus said: “Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.

All you need is to ask for the interpretation of what you're reading that's all.
Then after listening carefully to it's meaning try to meditate thoroughly if it's not similar to what is happening right now!

AntiChristian:
You are too old to be dragged again sir. Start your thread make we iron am out!

Do you think anyone expected something good from people in your religion?

Ọmọ start a thread and preach about how your Allah create things since you claim it's the true God. That's what everyone needs to hear not this fruitless arguments here and there!

oteneaaron:
Hahahaha
Even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I meant.
Gloat all you want.
If I tell you a little bit of what I believe, you might literally go crazy.

It's written in your thread "Who created God?"
And you answered "you and your cohorts"
That's enough for any right thinking person to know all that's needed about you!

oteneaaron:
Have you forgotten that Jesus spoke about two slaves in that parable?
A faithful slave and a wicked slave.
I personally do not believe that the GB of the JW are the faithful slave Jesus referred to - at least not anymore.

Do you even believe in God at all?
Since you said "you and your friends created GOD"

Fasting simply means abstinence from things you're used to not necessarily food.
The Israelites felt it's just staying away from food since they heard that faithful men like David did so God warned them that such fasting is meaningless to Him! Isaiah 58:3-8

God goes on to say to them: when you're eating aren't you eating and drinking for yourselves? How come it's when you're starving yourselves that you say you're doing that for me? Zechariah 7:5-6

Despite all these the Israelites never got the sense of what God is saying not until God sent His only begotten Son (Jesus Christ) who fully understood everything his father says.
Jesus never starved himself when there is food so they Jews sent messengers to him asking:
Why is it that we do practice fasting but you and your disciples don't follow the same line of thought? Mark 2:18

Well Jesus made them understand that God never demanded abstinence from food however his disciples will loose their appetite when they're grieving and it will serve as fasting for them! Matthew 9:15

So real fasting has little to do with abstinence from food, but if you truly want to know what God meant by fasting read carefully the Bible book of Isaiah 58:3-8 then let's consider each verse together.

May you have PEACE!

oteneaaron:
I feel you man.
I also agree with you that we must do our own research and be open minded to see these things with our own eyes.
There was this book I read by Alvin Boyd Kuhn titled - Who is this King of Glory? (A critical study of the Christos-Messiah Tradition)
We ALL have direct access to God because we are ALL his children.
We don't need any pope, pastor, reverend, bishop, elder or governing body in between.
Cheers!

oteneaaron:
GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)

WHO CREATED GOD??
.

Now who created GOD??


Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we felt the need to Control our fellow MAN, we created GOD and religion to keep humans in check , after-all they must all answer to our creation -GOD-

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD

Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!

Who said we don't need a "Governing Body" that will be feeding us spiritually speaking during the endtime? Matthew 24:45
Simple answer those who detests God's plan as He sent His only begotten Son to teach us what will occur during the final part of the days!

LordReed:
SMH. Na wa for self deception.

Exactly what a physical man who doesn't give events happening around him a second thought always say.
A book written thousands of years ago by ancient people foretold a time when people will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally despite differences in race, skin colour, occupation, class, language and geographical locations. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
The book says they will all have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} when all others around them are at war killing one another! Revelations 6:3-4
Come on my friend, real intellectuals will look closely at that, they won't just dismiss such an event as a coincidence! Luke 21:31

MindHacker9000:
If you believe Jesus then do you believe His second mission has already happened. You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD which you did not read in the New Testament. If you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened.

The underlined shows you need to learn what Jesus really meant instead of jumping to conclusions!
If it's just "part of the events" then that means you're missing something significant in what Jesus said!

MindHacker9000:
The Jehovah Witness you follow has this answer for you: https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/10-commandments/
Are the Ten Commandments relevant today?
Yes. Because the Ten Commandments reveal God’s thinking, we can benefit from studying them. (2 Timothy 3:​16, 17) The Ten Commandments are based on reliable principles that will never go out-of-date. (Psalm 111:​7, In fact, many of these principles underlie the teachings of what is commonly called the New Testament.​—See “ Principles from the Ten Commandments reflected in the New Testament.”
Jesus taught that the entire Mosaic Law, including the Ten Commandments, rested on two fundamental commandments. He said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments the whole Law hangs.” (Matthew 22:34-​40) So although Christians are not expected to observe the Mosaic Law, they are commanded to love God and their fellow humans.​—John 13:34; 1 John 4:​20, 21.

I never denied the fact that we can benefit from studying God's word from Genesis to Revelation. But quoting a portion and ruling out another portion is what we will never agree. We study the entire Bible to have accurate knowledge of God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

So we believe the entire Bible, Jesus is Lord!

ANTIlSLAM:
Rashidi a.k.a AntiChristian don't knw allah's process of creation

The truth is that his Allah has nothing reasonable to say about creation!

LordReed:
So were they lying or they thought people don't know the difference between near and far?

Their messages aren't for people who dwells only on the physical! 1Corinthians 2:14-15 compare to Hebrews 11:1; 2Thessalonians 3:2

sonmvayina:
I am talking about the yorubas..
You seem lost, stay focused..

YES! They have nothing similar to what the God of Abraham required.
They makes and bow down to images so don't compare them to worshipers of the God who detests images in worship!

sonmvayina:
I guess you brought the propaganda hook, line and sinker...
I did not....I don't worship a God' that does not look like me..

LIES!
According to Exodus 20 1-4 God has no form so Israelites are never to imagine any form of image for God!

sonmvayina:
You are just a brainwashed slave holding on to absurdities....
Goodluck ..

Everyone will always appear brainwashed to you. Even your so called cohorts only agree with you to kick against Christ apart from that you will never agree on terms and conditions that's why you will continue to argue, abuse, insult, curse and also carry weapons against one another due to racism and politics! Luke 11:23

MindHacker9000:
And are you a lost sheep of Israel?
Matthew 10:5
5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.
Matthew 15:24
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

YES! I am one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
By birth i'm from another race but through my line of thinking i belong to the race that cherishes pure worship jealously.
So i was born into the race where pure worship is of no importance to them, they can worship anything as long as their selfish cravings is achieved.
The same applies to an Israelite who happens to be an Israelite by birth but doesn't cherish pure worship! Romans 2:25-29

So i asked you again since the laws belongs to only the lineage of Jacob, are you an Israelites?

LordReed:
LoL! The same way it was near when the books of Peter were written. Na wa for near.

Before Peter was a man just like you and i, to us a day is just 24 hours, that's why himself and his fellow disciples were asking Jesus if what himself and John the baptist said is near will take effect immediately after Jesus' resurrection! Act 1:6
But in the spirit realms where their life has no time limit they see 1,000 years like just a day.
So when John the baptist, Jesus and Peter (after his being baptized of the holy spirit) talks about God's Kingdom is near to physical men like you and i we expect what was said to be near at most within a lifetime. 2Peter 3:8

MindHacker9000:
You are referring to those you have brainwashed



I have already given you plenty of facts which you cannot refute. Now it's your duty to share the GOOD NEWS OF SETTING THE THE BRAINWASHED FREE!

GOD first wrote the TEN COMMANDMENTS HIMSELF and that's is all HE wants us to obey.

You have already agreed that the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 33 AD so if you read Matthew 24:1-32 you'll find out that Jesus' first and second earthly mission have already been completed. Read verses 30 & 34
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was part of the events of Jesus' second mission which has already happened. So the second coming has been fulfilled.

This is hilarious!

Please the highlighted, are you an Israelites? Exodus 5:1; 19:5

Funny enough in order to explain yourself you quoted books from Genesis to Revelation.
So all the scriptures are inspired of God and benefitial for teaching, reproving, setting matters straight and disciplining in righteousness! 2Timothy 3:26

Therefore you can't tell me that any of the books making up the Bible is uninspired.
Now you can see how stupid you proved to be by speaking against any Bible book!

bobestman:
Your question above shows that you are a Spiritual and biblical baby. Drop your ego and all the things dowloaded into your head by the JWs. Try and read, research and understand things yourself.

You talk foolishly about a Man who:
Prophesied about the coming of the Hebrew Messiah (Acts 3:22)
Who was used to bring His people out of the house of bondage (Exo 3:10-22)
An inspiration even in the NT which is just a commentary of the Torah (Heb 11:23-28)
A great intercessor for his people (Exo 5:22)
A man whom some of the Messiah's disciples saw during the Transfiguration (Mark 9:2-. This shows that He was like the Messiah, Enoch, Elijah who were caught up to heaven. If you are sound spiritually you will know that they are one person coming in different era for the salvation of their people. An Incarnation of the Messiah
A man who spoke face to face with God Almighty (Exo 33:11)
A friend of God Almighty who was said to be very meek more than all on earth in that Era (Num 12:3)
A man whose song is always remembered in heaven (Rev 15:3)
The Messiah of the Torah
The Torah together with the other they told you is the Old Testament (big lie) is the real scripture. The Word and Father never get Old. It's 90% of the entire scripture. The NT is just like 10% and that 10% is only about the Messiah and what He did. Apart from what Christ did, everything has their root in the Torah. Their is nothing there you won't find in the Torah. It's commenting about the Torah. That's why it always quotes the Torah by saying "it's written". Many things in the Torah are still unfulfilled. The Torah is the real scripture.

The problem of you Christians is that you think another gospel was given in the NT. You also think the Old Laws were abolished. No. It was a Roman lie. The Torah was abrogated. Many things were turned by selfish priest. They added many unecessary laws. This is why the Messiah said they practice traditions of men. The Messiah then came and correct all these things. The wrong laws were removed. Did they stop practicing the Laws during the NT even after the Messiah's death? NO.
The Messiah kept the Sabbaths and Feasts. The disciples also did after His death. Research it in the NT yourself. This shows that the Laws were NEVER abolished but abrogated. The Messiah removed the enmity (wrongs added by evil Priests and Rulers) in the Law. He also clarified certain things the people don't understand like stoning a woman caught in Adultery. That law was in the Torah cos a little leaven leavens the whole lump. If that was not addressed by death, others will start practicing it which will bring the Father's wrath on the people. Another was that of the Sabbath. The Messiah made them know that it should not be a burden cos He himself is the Sabbath. He told the the real meaning of these things. He said that He will fulfill the Law and everything written about Him. Can you see now that many things in Christianity were written out of contest. Many of the doctrines were that of Pagans added to write off the chosen people and their Ways. About 60% of many things you people do and read in the NT is not what happened. They were added by the Vatican. And I tell you, when the truth comes, they will confess their sins (Dan 7:25).

You said that of Moses cos you don't know who He is. His Hebrew name is RA Moshe. One of the truest name of the Messiah was RA but the meaning is not what many understand. They called him Rabbi, Rabboni. The Bible writters interpreted it as Master but were wrong. The name had more meaning that's hidden. In English RA is light. Light is Son/Sun/Ray. RA is in Raphael (healer). To open your eyes more, that name has root in your African tongues and the Bible names just that the people have forgoten. RA is in RAhab, IsRAel, RAguel, RAfiu, MaRAnatha, RApture (RA means the light or Christ, ture means when something comes out or opens as in Rupture. That's where you Christians got the concept of Rapture -the coming out of a great Light). All this I told you about RA, can you do that with Jesus? What is the root name in Jesus. Can it be blended into other names in the Bible and in your African tongue (original languages of the bible) as I did with RA? Jesus was fabricated by Roman and added to the Bible as the name of the Messiah. This is why I tell you that the bible is a coded book.. whose meaning was sealed untill endtime. (Daniel 12:4). You may call these lies but you can never deny the evidence I gave you to proof them.

sonmvayina:
Well there are some days you don't go to markets isn't it?
The yorubas where not even doing those things. So there was no warning for them concerning that...the jews where doing that for Moloc and the so called queen of heaven....

LIES!
The Israelites never had any dealings with an idol when God brought them out of Egypt, all the laws given to them were to make them different from all other races on planet earth. That's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob referred to them as His people! Exodus 5:1 compare to 19:5

sonmvayina:
Yes..they are called orishas...they represent the laws and principles of life and nature...

And people always makes images of them and bow to them! Exodus 20:4-5

sonmvayina:
I said "in paganism "...don't play dumb.

According to the Jews your omenani is an idol therefore you're a pagan!

Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power. And after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs. For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”? And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? Hebrews 11:1-5

In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth every knee will bow! Philippians 2:10

So God will never cause leprosy on anyone who speaks against any follower of Jesus because according to Jesus himself his followers must pray for their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} they mustn't curse or think of evil towards anyone {Luke 9:51-56} meaning it's until God's kingdom come that unbelievers will be judged not now {Matthew 12:36} therefore anyone expecting evil things to come upon blasphemers now doesn't believe in Jesus!

He goes for what appeals to him!

AntiChristian:
Wind is not air!
Moving air is called wind. When air does not move what is it called?

ANTIlSLAM:
Rashidi oya tell us process of creation according to allah?

Chai!
Trouble for Apostates!

Too much wahala for Apostate!

sonmvayina:
Lol...funny you. You don't really know anything.
Satan is different from devil and different from lucifer..
In paganism , they represent 3 different laws and principles. Satan is the god of the air or wind.
Devil is the god of darkness
Lucifer is the goddess of death and love. I think the toruba know her as osun.

Is this included in the Torah?
That's why it's impossible for people to have the same line of thought regarding God without Jesus of Nazareth! John 17:20-23

If each person should say exactly what he feels in his heart just as you're saying right now then the arguments will be endless. Even those you thought are on the same page with you will abuse, insult and even curse you.
The only thing that rings in your head along with theirs is to negate the idea that Jesus is the Christ, apart from that all of you can't have the same line of thought regarding what God wants! Luke 11:23

sonmvayina:
Lol...well it is same thing as our omenani...
So I am safe..

In Yorùbá culture there are many many as in so many gods!

sonmvayina:
Lol..then you don't know anything about it...

There's no ifá mythology that speaks against:
Making of images~ Exodus 20:4
Bowing to images~ Exodus 20:5
Nothing like Sabbath~ Exodus 20:8

So it has nothing to do with TORAH!

sonmvayina:
Lol..every culture believes in reincarnation in some form....

But the real teachers of REINCARNATION always include Nirvana!
So you totally confused!

sonmvayina:
Because they think only them have the knowledge of God.
It is all propaganda.

It's a lie, the true God only introduced himself to Abraham and his descendants that's why you keep harmering on the TORAH!