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Uptownerd:
Jehovah Witness said the World will end Five (5) times... Their prophecies failed five (5) times.
Common sense says they're lying. What do you think? Do you think the next JW lie (prophecy) will finally get it right?

The highlighted is your problem!
Real intellectuals don't use the COMMON but the UNCOMMON SENSE!

Let's test the level of your IQ:
Do you have any evidence to prove that this organization actually predicted the end of the world?
Can you present a publication with a specific date mentioned regarding what you're saying?

Of course they will continue anticipating the end as Bible prophecies are fulfilling one after the other but as for a specific date my friend that's a lie they never mentioned one!

That's why i said:

The wise use the UNCOMMON SENSE because the COMMON has failed to yield any positive results!

Uptownerd:
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Ọ̀rọ̀ p'èsì jẹ!
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, have you suddenly gone dumb that it's just a picture that you can paste?

Well i can understand your problem, if that's the picture of what your spaghetti is doing then i have some things to tell you:

First of all people from different religions also have their own NUCLEAR FAMILIES (a father, a mother and children) so your spaghetti has been deceiving you there's nothing unique in this picture!
Secondly there's a Christmas tree behind them meaning this people believe in Christmas which has to do with faith in birth of Jesus (though it's a misconception)

As for JEHOVAH people from different races throughout the earth have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, they are using the BIBLE to resolved all their racial disparities, they are contributing money for the publication full of information that brings hope to millions around the world making them happy no matter the world's situation, they have vowed never to allow racism or politics provoke them into going for military services and as for weapons they are saying "Goodbye"
So if everyone on this planet are members of this organization WARS WILL CEASE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER END OF THIS PLANET! Psalms 46:9

Can you now see that all your frustrations is because there's nothing to write home about your spaghetti? That's why you wish everyone around you become hopeless like you but i'm offering what is BENEFITIAL to all my neighbours unlike you whose spaghetti is dead on arrival!

Uptownerd:
He can't believe it... He is living in denial now... He can't believe his beloved organisation has been peddling in End time prophecies and that they failed miserably.
I can't believe that despite knowing this lies, you still align with liars... That says a lot about who you are as a person... You are siding with people who have been lying to you. It's a shame.
Don't be afraid of excommunication... It's a ploy to keep you perpetually bound to them due to fear of being ostracized as is Jehovah Witness signature M.O.

You don't know what a "LIE" is because lies are meant to hide something from those believing it, the liars are those benefitting from what is not true. In this case there is just the misconception about what will certainly happen so if you think it's a lie then that simply means you never gave it a second thought. All the promises in God's word are fulfilling one after the other and today the promise of one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally is here:


In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.
Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This is what JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES stand for today, the mountain in the prophecy means PURE WORSHIP, the people coming from all the earth are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, the word of the Lord from JERUSALEM is the Bible. With the Bible they have trained themselves to be lovers of their neighbours, they have settled all racial disparities, they are making the best use of their resources making information materials which served as food for the downhearted, they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again and as for military services they're saying "goodbye".

With all these as evidence surely any mistake regarding their target of the destruction of unbelievers shows that they're imperfect but as for the spirit of God no one can deny that it's not yielding the positive results among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matthew 7:16-18

So please don't digress from our last discussion: what have your spaghetti been doing with you and your fellow atheists?

adoyi8:
Its not wrong to copy from others but its good you copy useful things. Okay I am on a forum created by a Nigerian who chose foreign science/tech over foreign religions and I am also using a phone by asians who chose foreign science/tech over foreign religions. You on the hand chose foreign religion over foreign science and wouldn't let us hear word. I wish you can use miracles to convince us but no its just noise up and down.

Whatever is working out for the BENEFIT of all i will go for it {Philippians 4:8} and you're wrong with the highlighted because i accepted all the thing that's yielding positive results!

Uptownerd:
This is a registered business account. We are here to enlighten only. Seeing as you are still going down the rabbit hole of superstitious beliefs with so much vigor, you should read how your Jehovah Witness lied 5 times while predicting End Time.
Armageddon: 5 Times Jehovah Witness Predicted The End Of The World And What Happened After
By the way, they all failed...
So many JW members have woken up from the Charles T. Russell lies after reading this article.

You don't know what the group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES meant, it simply means those putting faith in the things God promised as they keep on doing what is required to live up to their faith whether you see it or not. Hebrews 11:1
So keep your faith in the spaghetti we will keep our faith in JEHOVAH!

Uptownerd:
He is. The Spaghetti Monster is currently holding the earth in the tip of his hands... He is patiently waiting to bring end time and punish all those who didn't believe in him.

Now i'm sure you're one of those usual atheists disguising with another moniker!

adoyi8:
I am just wondering how you are able to display both arrogance and inferiority complex in one post.

OK arrogance because i stood up for what is right, and inferiority complex because i admitted that my ancestors got the concept of God wrongly, shey?
And what have you displayed with everything you're using including the device in your hand right now as all were invented by people from other races?

adoyi8:
I am just wondering how you are able to display both arrogance and inferiority complex in one post.

OK arrogance because i stood up for what is right, and inferiority complex because i admitted that my ancestors got the concept of God wrongly, shey?
And what have you displayed with everything you're using including the device you're using right now as all were invented by people from other races?

Uptownerd:
You too.

I will always keep my faith in Jesus Christ and continue preaching zealously and industriously teaching anyone i come across.
They will beat their swords into plowshares and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman! Isaiah 2:2-4

I hope your spaghetti does something worthwhile for you and your neighbours!

bobestman:
All the things you all teach had been corrupted. The true gospel was hijacked by the Vatican. They added and removed from the book which caused the corruption (Daniel 7:25). They killed the Hebrew Messiah and told the world the wrong stories. The reason Daniel was told to seal the book till the time of the end -Endtime (Daniel 12:4'9). You can't teach anything when what you teach had been dilluted. You will make yourself a liar in sight of the Most High. We can correct people to live right and fear God but not to follow religions that they used to propagate the wrong teachings. It's at the Time of the end that true gospel will go out with great signs not what JW and you Christians teach. The Messiah told you all in Matthew 24 the signs that will follow the true Gospel, at that Time shall the Chosen ones arise and teach the Truth to the World as a Witness before God Almighty pours His wrath on earth (Matt 24:14). Do you even know how that true gospel will be preached? Do you think it is by multitudes going everywhere like you Christians and JW? Only Few will be selected and they will be given power to do great signs like the Messiah did when He sent his disciples out. Even people will be afraid of their contenance. They will be few but everywhere around the earth. Even their voices can reach everywhere when they speak. The same thing you see in Rev 14:6;18:1. They will be like Angels. God Almighty don't need your crowds cos the narrow way is only found by FEW not MANY as in your Religion. You all are preaching the adulterated gospel. Wait for the truth. When it comes even you and the world will be shocked. If you follow those false Teachers like in you Religions, they will decieve you. You are also warned about false Christs and Teachers. They are all in your Religions, JW inclusive.
The best way for you not to be decieved, is not to stay away from them. Study the Bible yourself and let the Spirit of God teach you. Fear Him. Obey Him. Stay away Him. Study the Word and you can never go wrong or be decieved. People can decieve you but if the Spirit of God be your teacher, you can't be decieved. I hope you now understand me. I told you these things countless times but you are too proud to accept it cos you have been highly indoctrinated and bamboozooled by JW

How will the spirit of the God of Israel come to you if you don't attend meetings with those working with that spirit?
Who taught you that ordinarily reading the book written by worshipers of a god is enough to invoke the spirit of such a god without learning and meeting with worshipers of the god?
My friend, you are chatting with an intellectual not some gullible followers of religion.
Let's test the level of our IQ by presenting logical reasoning about what you know and what i know. Because from all i've gathered so far you're completely empty!

Uptownerd:
Well, the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't have the time to waste on those who have proved to be useless to Him, they will die like all others. The only difference between the faithful (Spaghetti Monster believers) and faithless (infidels like you) is the RESURRECTION hope. Very scary.

Good!
So keep your faith strong in your spaghetti!

adoyi8:
I wish your ancestors defended their traditional religion the way you are defending this foreign religion.

They were humans with brain like me so if it worths defending as in if they have accurate knowledge of what they had surely they would have defended it!

adoyi8:
common sense is becoming common

You're right, because FAITH in God is not about COMMON SENSE rather it's got to do with the UNCOMMON SENSE! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Uptownerd:
I love you that's why... I would hate to see you continue believing in something 5billion people know is a lie.

So the bone of contention here is the number of people that believe or disbelieve!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, another shifting of the goal post!

Definitely whatever the majority believes is what you want everyone to believe, shey?

MindHacker9000:
No they don't as none of the women and the disciples actually saw the resurrection take place. They only saw an empty tomb and still gave four different accounts.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, this shows how much you meditate on things you read.
Remember they all saw him being killed and later saw him again but this time alive so all what you're reading are what each person could gather regarding their leader who was dead and living again.
Of course they need to explain what they knew regarding his come back after death because they were battle prepared to die for the fact that he is no more a dead man!

Uptownerd:
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is coming back again Rapture style... According to the FSM, those who don't believe him will go to and rot in hell where their flesh will be roasted and fed to Spaghetti Monster demons.

It's really scary!

That's what misinformed Churchgoers taught you, right?
Well God doesn't have the time to waste on those who have proved to be useless to Him, they will die like all others the only difference between the faithful and faithless is the RESURRECTION hope.

So calm down and learn, what God told Adam is "you will die and return to dust" that was the judgment of the worst criminal in the history of mankind!

MindHacker9000:
Ummmmm! And they penned down with 4 different accounts of The Resurrection of the same person in the 4 gospels and no one actually saw the resurrection take place.

In Matthew: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary saw an angel. "Come and see the place where he lay. "He has risen"
In Mark: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome saw a young man.
In Luke: The women saw 2 men. "He is not here; he has risen!"
In John: [Notice there was no angel or young man. Here it was just Mary Magdalene, Peter and the other disciple]
"Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.". "So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple". "Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb". "The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen". "Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside". "Then the disciples went back to where they were staying"

The points of emphasis regarding resurrection is what matters not what different people who are contemporaries said about the event!

Jesus was betrayed!
He was arrested!
He was arraigned, charged and judge wrongly!
He was executed and on the third day he rose from his tomb.

Do they all agree on these note?

Uptownerd:
Have you seen that you have comprehension issues?
One wonders how someone who lacks simple comprehension ability will understand an ancient book with talking donkeys and flying horses.

My friend, books are meant to be read and UNDERSTOOD.
To anyone who read the book but couldn't grasp it's content such a book will mean trash but to those getting the sense and making the best use of it's content nobody can convince them otherwise.
So what has your flying spaghetti monster been doing, leave my own book i know the meaning of it's content and millions globally have been making the best use of it!

shadeyinka:
Some people are born liars!

Exactly my point!

sonmvayina:
Nothing...he was a Jewish king.
The Jewish Messiah will come from his blood line.
According to the jews.
Jesus has no father according to the story. So he is not from anywhere because genealogy is only transferred from father to son.
So my argument is that Jesus can't be a real human being, he belongs to Roman/Greek mythology...
What you say?

Why the digression to Jesus again?
This is what you typed:

sonmvayina:
The Messiah spoken about in Judaism is an ordinary human being like you and man. Born under the law means having a father and a mother. His main mission is to bring peace to the earth. He will usher in an era of world peace. No more wars and oppression of any kind. He will teach the entire earth to revere only the creator( Not necessary Judaism). Thise has not happen, so the jews are still waiting..
A Messiah simply means anointed king. I have one in my village now called Obi Azuka the second

The highlighted caught my attention, that's why i asked you:

Why must the Messiah to save the world come from the Jews?
Why not from my own tribe Yorùbá?

Then you said:

sonmvayina:
He must be from the tribe of Judah.. line of David..

So i asked you who is David? And what business do i have with him? because i will prefer my saviour to come speak my own language and most especially born from my own tribe just as you have Obi Azuka!

The baby burnt to death is female, and you're so hurt that you feel like slapping God for not rescuing her from the explosion.

Now take a deep breath and look at the two pictures below.

These are FEMALE ISRAELITES, if you look into their eyes they will all appear innocent to you but then check what has been infused in their brains:

The first picture are females who are fully prepared to kill the enemies of Israel, so they are soldiers fighting to secure peace in their country.

The second picture are also females soldiers fully trained to make peace.

But while those in green will go with weapons to force kill, maim or intimidate those they see as enemies, the other females will go with their Bibles to soften the hearts of all people throughout the world to erase politics and racism from their hearts!

Of course both will make their enemies SURRENDER but while the first set will shed blood in their line of duty, the second set will only make families through their actions.

You may continue hurting yourself with feelings of frustration but know that Jesus of Nazareth is the greatest commander whose soldiers are the best in peacemaking!

Uptownerd:
What is the child's crime?

For your information death is punishment that has nothing to do with the crime any of us committed. It's hereditary!
So whether a fetus, baby, toddler, teenager, youth or elderly death has nothing to do with the crimes any of us commit now.
Those committing crimes got fed up just like you and in their hearts they're saying "there is no God, no one is watching whether i chose to be nice or wicked" that's why their conscience doesn't restrict them from doing what is evil as long as their selfish cravings is met they feel justified! Psalms 14:1; 53:1
That's why you need to calm down and learn your hurtful words, insults, mockery and abuses doesn't change the fact that you're fed up with all the evil things happening around you!

Uptownerd:
Do you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

What are the things this your so called monster has been doing and where are those believing in it, him, her?

Uptownerd:
How did God pass the information across to this his secretaries?

Through different means: dreams, visions and sometimes angels (supernatural beings) were sent to tell them what to write {Hebrews 1:1} they heard and penned down those informations!

Uptownerd:
You got to let go of this bitterness I sense in you.

sonmvayina:
He must be from the tribe of Judah.. line of David..

Who is David?
What business have i got to do with him?

Uptownerd:
How much of your brain do you really use?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, that's an easy one!

Just observe those around you and you'll find the answer!

Animals live in the jungle because humans have developed the cities making it uninhabitable for beasts. So the animals keep themselves in the jungle cohabiting as they rely on their instinct.

Humans have made better use of their own environment due to their advancement in technology.

So back to your question:

How much of human brains is in use?

Humans build cities but they live behind iron bars not due to the fear of tigers or lions!
They form communities but they can't trust their neighbour!
Means of exchange from gold and silver to paper money but they protect the papers much more than human lives!
They chose rulers among themselves but the rulers see themselves as demigods to be worshiped by those that chose them!
They now went back to the jungle brought in ferocious beasts in order to scare their fellowman away from their residence!

I think with these few points you can see how much humans are using their brains!

Uptownerd:
@bolded/italics, What's the real source of the information?

First of all do you now agree that your logic was misplaced?
The translators of KJV committed a lot of blunders that's what prompted other translations.
So all you need to do is calm down and reason not just hastily dismissing everything simply because you're frustrated with the way life is going generally.
For your information, thieves, ritualists, rapists and many more are results of the frustration hidden within the hearts of many around you. So don't think others aren't feeling the same way you do, but real intellectuals takes things step by step.

The real source of the information found in the Bible is GOD! 2Timothy 3:16
The writers whose names you found as titles of each book are like secretary to the Author (GOD) so it's His thoughts they penned down not their own! 2Peter 1:21

Now the translators found the information and couldn't just turn away that's why they're trying to interpret it for others to grasp the import of the messages.
If they get it right you will see the result in the midst of those putting it to use! Matthew 7:16-18

I am one of God's friends so no matter your grievances or harsh response i perfectly understood what you're going through in within! Proverbs 20:5

So calm down and ask your questions! 1Peter 3:15

SimplePlan34:
Religion is the propagator of the believe that we deserve evil. What has the little child done to deserve this. If it was her past sins in a previous life punishment without awareness is another evil. I HV always said God does not care about anyone. He is the principal source of evil. Evil is thrives due to inequality of we humans and he created that inequality by giving grace to some, by making some healthy and others not. I acknowledge the fact that there is a God just marveled by the horrors of this God.

If you acknowledge the fact that there is God then you need to acquire the ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE about what you acknowledged.

First of all the Bible is like a case file regarding:

Why we are here?
Why do we grow old and die?
Who is God?
Does He care about us?
What is He doing presently about our problem?

All these and many more are answered in the Bible but if you've not find His friends or given them time to explain then there's no way you can find answers to any of those questions!

Uptownerd:
If God killed His only son for your sins, why can't He kill His arch-enemy for your sake?

Please feel free to ask the thought provoking questions running in your heart. Don't just conclude that you've gotten it all figured out simply because you don't have the answers!

We are talking about supernatural beings who do not grow old nor die so to decipher what they're doing you need to consider their nature not just reasoning from the perspective of mortal man! Isaiah 55:8-9

Uptownerd:
NIV Bible (First Published) - 1973

RSV Bible (First Published) - 1946

NWT Bible (First Published) - 1950

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King James Version (KJV) Bible (First Published) - 1611

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is really funny!

So going by your logic whatever information that reaches us first is that which comes from the authentic source, shey?

Then why are you born within the 20th century speaking against the book published in the 17th century?

My friend the time those books were published is not what matters but the source from which all the publishers got what they translated. You and i are chatting now due to what we know, your ability to translate what you have in mind matters much than when it's translated.

What's written in the Bible isn't from the publishers of KJV, NIV, RSV, NWT or any other TRANSLATION, they're just translations not the real source of the information!

I believe you should be smarter than this!

Uptownerd:
Numbers 23:22✓
•King James Version
22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
Surprise surprise, unicorns are not even real.

God brought them out of Egypt; they have the strength of a wild ox. Numbers 23:22 NIV

God brings them out of Egypt; they have as it were the horns of the wild ox. RSV

God is bringing them out of Egypt. He is like the horns of a wild bull for them. NWT

I told you "YOU NEED TO WIDEN OUT"

Uptownerd:
Lol... The last time I checked, your Bible said your God made man in his image. Why not go and ask him why people are killing people?
He knows Everything right?

The highlighted is found written in a book and the same book preferred a solution to mankind's problem regarding killings. Since you're against the book what is your own suggestion to killings?

That's how intellectuals reason.
You prefer a better offer before expecting right thinking persons to drop the one and only option available.
Do you now see why i said your thinking is wrapped up in a box?