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Workch:
The Bible is fiction is the topic.
No one has asked you whether Jehovah witness wants to solve killings or not

This is why smart people don't see any sense in ATHEISM, because instead of thinking about what will work for benefits you will just like to keep arguing aimlessly!

The Bible can be a fiction to you but to any wise person, a book used to resolve disparities that's been leading people into raising weapons against one another must be from a higher intelligent being "GOD"

Workch:
The topic is “Bible is fiction”.
No one is trying to find solutions to killing here.

Well it's not, that's why Jehovah's Witnesses are using that same book to find solution to the killings going on throughout the world today!

If it's fiction it will never work out such thing in the world that's filled with people from different races. For JWs to have used that book to settle disputes leading to killings among all the people who aren't ready to study the book diligently then that book is much more than what you think!

TenQ:
Those scriptures are enough for the wise.

Well everyone is wise in their own eyes but only the wise can put what they know into action while those deceiving themselves can go making noise without any visible WORKS! James 2:18

KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information, of course everyone has knowledge (even atheists) because they have something to argue about with what they know!
BUT
WISDOM is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of accumulated information which results in lasting benefits. Only the wise can put what they know to good use to benefit themselves and others around them.

So JWs are making the best use of what we know and the whole world can SEE our fine WORKS just as Jesus foretold:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens". Matthew 5:14-16

There are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations of Christianity today but you and your friends can only SEE Jehovah's Witnesses not because all the other sects are performing up to expectation but because this is the one and only group practicing what they preach throughout the world making them the house that's built on the mountain top! Isaiah 2:2

Come and learn the truth, Christendom is dead with TRINITY that's why all of you are contradicting yourselves yet you can all single out JWs simply because we have a different belief just like all the different sects claiming denominations of Christianity have! John 15:19

TenQ:
2 Timothy 3:5
2 Corinthians 11:14
My take!

"having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away" 2Timothy 3:5

People claiming they know God but have nothing to show as FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in their midst, please turn away from them.
JWs have LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} when you think of the religious group that's quietly going without huge religious titles but have LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering only Jehovah's Witnesses fit in this description! James 2:18-26
That's why we don't have anything to do with all of you who are claiming Christians saying you're performing miracles but there is no FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in your gatherings!

"And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light" 2Corinthians 11:14

Back in the 70s and 80s we use to watch some people on TV performing magic and the shows we do enjoy back then, but where are they now? Well they're no more performing their magical acts on TV or stage shows rather they are now disguising as Men of God performing their magical acts in worship centers to attract viewers who will pay them tenth part of their earnings unlike before when they used to perform for stipends they're now living big, buying estates and private jets all in the name of performing miracles in Jesus name!

Guy come and let's teach you the meaning of what is written in that book (Bible) it belongs to us, so no matter what you quote or cite in it we will teach you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION so that everyone can SEE clearly what it means!

Workch:
The Bible is a book of fiction, even smart Christians of our time agree that the passages of the Bible are allegories and shouldn’t be taking literally.
If you take the Bible literally then you will end up contradicting reality in many instances.

Literality of the Bible contradicts all reality of science in astrophysics, biology, geology and physics. It’s the reason literalists always have problem with science because they acknowledge the contradictions and most times science is fact because it’s observable

Says the atheist who can't find any solution to the killings going on even within people he considered "SMART"

TenQ:
JWs dont care one bit about scriptural truths except it is coloured by their warped interpretation. THey will just waste your time by endless diversionary arguments

I love this!
Over 8.7 million people from all races on this planet have used the scriptures to settle all their racial disparities, they now have the same line of thought due to their agreement on their study of God's word, they've agreed to erase the use of weapons for good, they're using their resources for the production of food and information materials, and zealously they're making sure that whoever wish can get the needed information materials for free! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
Jesus foretold that during the last days there will be many false religions causing confusion killing one another and claiming they have faith in the God of love {Matthew 24:9-12} but what will Jesus' true disciples do during that time? They will have love for their neighbours just as they love to live {Mark 12:31} they will have love for their fellow believers just as Jesus love them {John 13:34-35} they will be neutral in all the ongoing killings caused by Satan and his demons {John 15:19; 17:14} and because of their stand not to support either sides during clashes people throughout the earth will stigmatize them {Matthew 10:22} despite all these they will endure all these trouble till the end! Matthew 23:13-14

Now the one and only organization of people practicing all these today is Jehovah's Witnesses. So if after studying the Bible they're able to direct from the scriptures that the spirit leading them to achieve all of this is the Archangel Michael who happens to be the one standing for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} whoever thinks they are wrong only need to do one thing: PRESENT A BETTER PERFORMING GROUP THAN THEM. In the absence of that anyone criticizing what they say surely is part of the wicked Daniel says will not understand the end time! Daniel 12:10

May you have PEACE!

sagenaija:
What I've stood for has been 'what does the Scripture say?'.
Isn't it the person who does not stand with the Scripture who can be said to be self-deceived?

Well my copy of God's word says Jesus is the Archangel Michael!

sunjai:
*sister"

Thanks sister, you're blessed in Jesus name!

sonmvayina:
What's the difference between you and any of the Tliban ?

Good question!

The Taliban will use force and weapons to settle disputes but a witness of Jehovah like me will never use force or weapons, once i tell you what my God says the next thing is to take my leave peacefully just as my Master Lord and King Christ Jesus commanded me!

sunjai:
thank you

You're welcome,Jehovah is with us my beloved brother in Christ!

sunjai:
yes

Let me officially welcome you to the faceless forum where people hide their faces to say their minds unlike our brothers who always say what we believe anytime, anywhere and before anybody!
Wish you a happy countdown to Paradise!

Aaronsrod:
None of this should worry us.
He is a man of God.
His actions cannot be questioned nor his motives doubted.
It is well.

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach: 1Timothy 3:2


Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 1Timothy 3:12.

sunjai:
I believe in Jehovah, I in His word the bible, and I believe in His son; Jesus Christ.

Please that language sounds familiar, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and that's our HERITAGE.
So are you also serving Jehovah in one of the congregations?

That's not the original purpose of the tithes, it was instituted as earnings for workers in the temple. God instructed Moses to share all the inheritance between just 12 tribes so that one tribe (Levites) were excluded. But since Moses himself is a Levite there was no murmuring in the camp. Then God said all the 12 tribes have a duty with what they were given as inheritance: yearly or three times in a year (depending on how convenient and the nature of business) they must bring tenth part of their gain for the Levites who had no inheritance! Deuteronomy 14:22-27
So each Israelites no matter the craft or trade must calculate his gain (not total earnings) and divide the gain into ten place, one out of this belongs to the Levites whose job is to stay in the temple all their lives cleaning, offering sacrifices and burning incense in behalf of all the remaining tribes of Israel!
Then God commanded the Levites to also pay tithes, the question now is to whom?
That's to take care of orphans, widows and strangers who happens to be stranded anywhere in Israel.
So widows, orphans and strangers are not required to pay tithes because they are on the final receiving end.

But later after the land has been devastated by enemies due to their idolatry, most Israelites forgot the paying of tithes leading to shortages of food in the temple for Levites. So most Levites abandoned their duties in the temple to go and find something to do to cater for their families! Nehemiah 13:10

Of course when the Levites aren't paid they can't pay tithes which means the orphans, widows and strangers will suffer in Israel the land God Himself planned and organized for pure worship to flourish.
That's why God sent Malachi to remind them that they are robbing Him not because God is the one collecting the tithes but they've turned the whole setting upside down! Malachi 3:6-12

That's the arrangement as God planned it in the Old Covenant, but
What about the New Covenant?
Are Christians required to continue with that system since we no more have anyone offering sacrifices nor incense for our worship?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

If you want me to answer the highlighted just signal by typing "YES"

May you have PEACE!

MightySparrow:
I witness also to you all by myself that you are a comedian

You can call me anything as long as it has to do with my witnessing for my God! Matthew 5:11-12; John 10:20; Act 26:24

MightySparrow:
You as funny still, are you a comedian?

Call me anything as i speak as a witness of my own God!

MightySparrow:
Because your contribution is funny

That's what my God said but it's ironic that your own god has remain silent and it appears that you're also the same with your god! Psalms 115:4-8

sonmvayina:
You are a brainwashed cultist.....
People like you are very dangerous..

Even though i'll never raise a weapon against my fellow man, i know that you're scared of me!

Nothingserious:
Lol!
Thank you.
He is at liberty to explain to us.
But I think it’s a very tight and uphill task to explain the Bible ( even the Old Testament) and excise the Messiah from the accounts.

We find ourselves here and today all of us can see that 99.99999% of the problems we have on this planet is caused by our fellow humans.
The only problem we can't figure out is oldage and death. The Bible made it clear that Adam and Eve brought about oldage and death.
So if we are innocent of what we are suffering then there must be a way out of this, that's why we need a perfect human soul to redeem us from the cause of oldage and death. God's word made it clear that the Messiah will serve as the sacrificial lamb and will wash away all our sins. But he has been poisoned against anything having to do with Jesus.
The first time i met him on this forum once he mentioned that he's been discussing with a Jew i pity him because those people are ready to agree with anything so far it's against Jesus.
Can you imagine that this same sonmvayina believes in reincarnation and Babylonian methodology? Yet he wants to argue about idolatry!
Did the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob see anything good in the nonsense and ingredients that any nation worshiping demons believe?
The last time i tormented him with the truth of God's word the confused idiot began cursing me, saying God will punish me for not accepting his delusion. So i reminded him that according to reincarnation (which he believes) whether people die by gun, drowning, slaughter or sleep they're all going to reincarnate again, so what punishment is he talking about?
He was totally confused because he just wish people take him serious whereas he doesn't have the knowledge to convince anyone!

sonmvayina:
I saw this post from a Facebook group. I wanted to share it with you, do you understand what she is saying? I am not asking if you believe it...

"You are the creator! We all are! We are eternal beings! We all created everything together. Then gave ourselves amnesia so that we could live learn and explore everything that we created! We are God experiencing itself! We live and die through incarnations coming back and forth learning and growing till we remember everything! Then we All become One again as we ascend upwards becoming more and more One. When it’s All done We destroy this Universe take All our knowledge that we learned as a collective from this Universes experiences then We create another Universe and do it All over again! What else are We going to do as an Eternal being? Eternity is a very long long long time to exist and these universes that we create to experience is how we are passing the time of eternity! "

She is a white lady not Nigerian....

That's her own opinion nah, whether she's white yellow or green i'm not concerned, what matters to me is how far has her line of thought helped people to form a global family of peace loving worshipers.
In the absence of that she's talking trash!

Janosky:
Why do your fellow Trinitarian devotees led by the same holy ghost leading you, reject your claim on Acts 20:28?

Whatever his fellow trinitarians say or believe is not his problem, only JWs are wrong to him.
His just deceiving himself!

That's the purpose of God's organized people!

If you want to have sense of discernment you need to learn from ancient servants of God just as Paul listed their deeds in the Bible book of Hebrews 11:4-32 and concluded by calling them cloud of WITNESSES! Hebrews 12:1
You also need to associate with Jesus' group {Matthew 12:46-50} where your power of discernment will be trained! Act 2:42; Romay 1:11-12; Hebrews 10:24-25; 13:7

sonmvayina:
What's the difference or similarities between believe in God and knowledge of God?
I am asking aspersions the bold.

To BELIEVE connotes TRUST so a believer is the person who trust someone.
First of all you need to define the word "GOD" but your definition of God already locked you up in a box so it will be difficult for you to convince anyone that you truly have the knowledge of God.
You say GOD is CONSCIOUSNESS whereas i believe that GOD is the SUPREME BEING, now you want me to obey what you think about God when i want to obey a supreme being whose orders is very essential for humans to live peacefully with one another.
So if your God is consciousness then each person from any part of the earth is God on his/her own, and who are you to tell a God that he/she is not conscious of what he/she is doing?
That's where you are complicating issues for yourself.
But if you agree that God is the SUPREME BEING then both of us can try to figure out what are the orders from this supreme being that all humans should put to use!
So if you don't agree that GOD is the supreme being then their is no way you can convince anyone to TRUST (BELIEVE) in what your so called CONSCIOUSNESS is saying because each person feels he/she is conscious of what they're doing!

The problem is not about religion but lack of understanding!
Surely the theory of evolution and creation contradicts but then we need to ask ourselves:
What is the benefit of each theory?
Evolution leads people astray regarding how mankind can cohabit peacefully while Creation teaches us how we can live peacefully as the one and only intelligent specie on this planet.

Another problem is misinformation, majority are misinformed about God and worship this has complicated everything as those claiming believers are not different from atheists in their line of thought!

MightySparrow:
Don't worry about me.

This really sounds funny walahi talahi!

An unbeliever started a discussion asking for the purpose of the Messiah, you leave him and his questions then chasing the person that's expressing his own views, and by the end of the day you say:
"Don't worry about me"
Who is disturbed between the one expressing his beliefs and the one who couldn't express his beliefs but running after those expressing their own beliefs?

Nothingserious:
This is interesting!
Thank you for appealing to the Old Testament.
But do you think the New Testament is part of the Bible and is valid?
If yes, then the sacrifices of Jesus Christ and his death , resurrection and atonement death is valid. Acts and Hebrews discuss the indispensability of salvation through Jesus Christ and his blood.
But if you say no, then you will need to help us carefully and with surgical precision excise the Old Testament texts that talked about the Messiah and the work he will do in saving his people from sin and reconciliation of men and women to God.
Will you be willing to help us out Sir/Ma?

Just ask him few questions:

What was God's original purpose for Adam and Eve? Were they to live for a short time and die? If not then why are we all dying since we are not Adam and Eve? Is it just for humans to continue dying that God created us or we are to continue living forever on planet earth?

Then let him explain what the Messiah is coming to do, even little children that never committed any wrong do die, so is it their sin that led to their death?

MightySparrow:
I don't have anything to be taught by your GB the are deluded. They are not sure of what they are doing in fifty years time, half of what your organisation believe could be gone due to ''new light' Keep your teachings to simpletons you gather in your Kingdom Halls, deluding yourselves.

If you're damn sure of what you're saying then why bother yourself about me or the GB?

MightySparrow:
Don't worry about me.

Don't you think this is the best advice you need?
You don't need to worry about me or what i say if you're sure that it's all delusion!

MightySparrow:
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. ICor. 4:5

Ask for the interpretation of what is written in our book and we will TEACH you!

When Jesus said:
"Do not judge" {Matthew 7:1} he's not telling you to refrain from openly telling a sinner that death awaits him {Ezekiel 3:18} what he meant is "don't kill or punish him for his errors"

So stop deceiving yourself, when you read the Bible book of John 3:16 before anyone you're not JUDGING but WARNING the unbeliever.
The problem with you and your Papa is that he doesn't know why, how or what will lead to the condemnation of unbelievers, that's why he can't distinguish between real believers and fake religionists. Once anyone says "Jesus is Lord" Oyedepo is confused because he doesn't know what the believer should be doing to prove that he truly believes. That's why you yourself can't substantiate using the scriptures to tell who is a believer and who is not.

So when a true believer now tell you that 'people who aren't practicing so and so are not believers' you're puzzled because your Papa Oyedepo don't know what quantify a believer.
That's why you're worried now.
But as for the JUDGING that Jesus and Paul is telling us not to do it doesn't mean i shouldn't tell you that you MightySparrow will be destroyed when God's kingdom come, rather it means i mustn't join in killing or arming you.

For instance, many of you will quote Matthew 7:1 yet you will join a angry mob to kill a thief whereas none of you is guiltless when it comes to stealing. So as you join hands in killing that thief the same way you'll be judged for commiting Adultery, Fornication, Spiritism and the rest! Galatians 5:19-21
If you're part of the people who join hands in depriving the sinner of a second chance then you too will be deprived of a second chance when you commit any of the offenses God listed along with STEALING. That's what Jesus meant @ Matthew 7:1-4

Not when you tell the thief that God's kingdom is coming to destroy him!

MightySparrow:
Annihilation, yes! Isa 24: 19 -20. Scriptural.
Jesus killing those HR putshased by his blood. No.
John 3:38; ROM.5 9. That GB is coming - judge with Jesus as explained by GB member Geoffrey Jackson to delude YOU, no.

The GB is part of those going to rule with Jesus in heaven so when Jesus said:

"So that you may eat and drink at my table in my Kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the 12 tribes of Israel" Matthew 22:30
The twelve apostles will surely destroy all the Israelites who failed to accept Jesus' teachings!
The 'judging' there doesn't mean people will stand before a court but 'KILLING' any Israelite who failed to accept Jesus' wise counsels. According to Jesus anyone who did not accept his teachings has been judged (condemned) already {John 3:17-18} so there is no time wasting when Jesus return with his co-rulers! Luke 19:27

So when a member of the GB says he will be a part of those executioners he's not talking about you in Nigeria but his own tribe that failed to accept Jesus' wise counsels through the works they're seeing him doing in God's organization.
For your information, an anointed brother of Christ who happens to be a Nigerian will also be part of those executioners so it's the one who comes from your own tribe that will destroy you because he has proved that Jesus' counsels are good but you refused to yield deceiving yourself following Oyedepo that useless racist. So when Jesus comes with the 144,000 each of them will KILL people of his own race that refuse to accept Jesus' teachings. There is no tribe where God did not pick one or two persons to join Jesus' group of executioners.
Stop deluding yourself by mixing what i'm saying with the assertions of AntiChristian, i've got nothing to do with him so my words has nothing to do with him!

Crystyano:
Repeat that one till you die!

No let am pain you, because i may be buoyant tomorrow morning and ask for your account details, i know you're a frustrated social media beggar. So use your brains so that you don't insult people who may dash you money!
The evidence of SPIRITS can be seen in the way people do things in common even though they are not under duress!

Nothingserious:
Yeah. Thanks for the balanced view

You're welcome in Jesus name!